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  • čas přidán 29. 04. 2021
  • Overlooking the Chilterns in the heart of the English countryside, Jones Hill Wood is an ancient woodland which is due to be felled for the controversial HS2 rail project, the largest infrastructure project in Europe.
    A diverse community of protestors has formed a resistance camp in a bid to stop the woods being cut down. Can putting their bodies on the line through direct action and ecological surveying save the woods?
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  • @alexisdetocqueville9964
    @alexisdetocqueville9964 Před 3 lety +927

    It's crazy how small these woods are. This wouldn't be considered a small park in upstate New York. Goes to show how much England's entire ecosystem was changed when basically the entire island was deforested hundreds of years ago that this is considered significant woodland.

    • @ince55ant
      @ince55ant Před 3 lety +55

      Yup, traded it all for a bunch of ships to make rich people richer

    • @AaronH542
      @AaronH542 Před 3 lety +29

      its not significant don't worry haha. These guys are just trying to find controversy by the looks of it. Could plant more trees in an hour if they actually wanted to do something productive.

    • @coryparni3620
      @coryparni3620 Před 3 lety +154

      @@AaronH542 you can't replace ancient woodland by planting new trees .

    • @AaronH542
      @AaronH542 Před 3 lety +11

      I know you cant and it is a pity, but if theyre argument is "bla bla environment bla" then they dont have any ground too stand on. Its literally such a small site. I love trees and if was my ground there is no chance that i would let that happen. But its not mine. So its not my decision.

    • @eugenevasseur1040
      @eugenevasseur1040 Před 3 lety +31

      Jones Hill woods is one example of the 108 ancient woodlands under threat / already felled by HS2 www.hs2rebellion.earth/environmental-destruction-by-hs2/

  • @NoahNobody
    @NoahNobody Před 3 lety +1297

    Did I hear this correctly?
    They wanted to buy the land. The land owner said no. The government then sold the land on behalf of the land owner to the company developing the new railway line.
    Is that how this went down?

    • @LiamBaileyMusic
      @LiamBaileyMusic Před 3 lety +126

      It's mad

    • @carolyneculver3960
      @carolyneculver3960 Před 3 lety +241

      Land in the way of the train line and its associated building compounds and haul roads is being compulsory purchased (or in some cases temporarily purchased and will be returned to the landowner in the future). Many landowners still haven't been compensated for having their homes and land seized. Many have been threatened that unless they sign non disclosure agreements they will not receive their compensation.

    • @The_Google_User
      @The_Google_User Před 3 lety +139

      It happens in the US too. If the govt wanta ur land they have the right to take it they just have to pay u

    • @niallholman3231
      @niallholman3231 Před 3 lety +64

      @@LiamBaileyMusic its really not, this is true everywhere. without compulsory purchase no infrastructure could ever be built

    • @jonahview123
      @jonahview123 Před 3 lety +110

      @@The_Google_User the government tried to take land from cattle ranchers in Nevada and the local citizens and landowners took up arms. They had a stand off in the end and the landowners won. They got to keep their land.

  • @recurf7492
    @recurf7492 Před 3 lety +598

    As someone who lives in the UK, its makes me really sad seeing the green areas of my home town slowly be taken away. When I was a kid, my town had 2 massive nature reserves, now theyre both buidling estates. And im not even old, im 25. Its just sad

    • @TheSlizzer348
      @TheSlizzer348 Před 3 lety +12

      Same mate

    • @marktabaczynski2826
      @marktabaczynski2826 Před 3 lety +7

      @@TheSlizzer348 same in us. washington state.

    • @cjthegreat6722
      @cjthegreat6722 Před 3 lety +19

      Feeling this comment. The rush to make make everywhere a concrete jungle just makes me sad & angry.. we're just ants.. being controlled by other ants on the colony

    • @gavincardy8458
      @gavincardy8458 Před 3 lety +7

      Bet you're PRO-Mass Immigration though ain't YA.

    • @recurf7492
      @recurf7492 Před 3 lety +5

      @@gavincardy8458 nope

  • @DomFishingUK
    @DomFishingUK Před 3 lety +115

    Never seen the point in HS2 when there are thousands of miles of railway that desperately needs upgrading.

    • @alrightyru
      @alrightyru Před 3 lety +2

      In Canada a dirty little secret was the more than 18 months that Churchill Manitoba didn't have a road in, only unusable damaged rail tracks. The community depended on boats to bring essentials since the rail company didn't care one bit .... 18 months!

    • @laurenz4528
      @laurenz4528 Před 3 lety +1

      Its always easier to establish a new System than upgrading an old one.

    • @jaif7327
      @jaif7327 Před 3 lety +1

      @@alrightyru jesus when was this?

    • @jermainetrainallen6416
      @jermainetrainallen6416 Před 3 lety +1

      We need HS2 to release capacity on the existing rail network for more local and freight services which cuts carbon emissions by taking HGV's off the roads, cut domestic flights, encourage modal shift to rail from cars and stimulate economic growth etc. Upgrading the existing network e.g. by widening lines would mean more homes businesses and woodlands would be affected, there would be much more disruption over years to the existing rail network and it would only release a fraction of the capacity that HS2 will without the benefits of cutting domestic flights, encouraging a large amount of modal shift to rail from cars and stimulating economic growth etc.

    • @danielmckendrick1371
      @danielmckendrick1371 Před 3 lety +1

      @@alrightyru and there's still whole communities that have to boil their drinking water.

  • @Xellot
    @Xellot Před 3 lety +2001

    Hasn't England lost enough of it's woodlands already?

  • @FowlorTheRooster1990
    @FowlorTheRooster1990 Před 3 lety +600

    the irony in the government saying we must plant more trees when they are cutting down native forests for a railway line, we already have a network that needs a bit of work done to it

    • @mtf_nine_tailed_fox385
      @mtf_nine_tailed_fox385 Před 3 lety +12

      _"Politics "_

    • @RealUlrichLeland
      @RealUlrichLeland Před 3 lety +17

      The point of HS2 is to free up space on other lines for extra commuter traffic, not particularly that people can shave ten minutes of their journey to Birmingham

    • @perhaps1094
      @perhaps1094 Před 3 lety +3

      @Albert Fels You and i both know its a bit deeper than some 'neo-ludites', many of the people in support of the protests are in support of things like green energy as well

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 Před 3 lety +13

      The real reason they're doing this is because it's cheaper and easier than buying land from normal people. Destroying nature should not be the cheaper option.

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict Před 3 lety

      Too slow

  • @79RockShox
    @79RockShox Před 3 lety +27

    I'm glad they managed to preserve it, I'm in Scotland and 90% of the ancient woodland is gone, which is a shame, it's getting better with reforestation but still much of the landcape is barron, or is spoiled by yet another housing estate, having said that my work has planted just about 500k trees in former caledonian woodland and still adding to it, it's better than nothing.

    • @jb6725
      @jb6725 Před 2 lety

      I've never been to Scotland but from what I've seen it looks lush and celtic I didn't know it was 90% barren in the highlands

  • @TheBanana93
    @TheBanana93 Před 3 lety +62

    This hurts me so much, my favourite place in the world is an ancient woodland, so much respect for the trees and wildlife that reside there :( Bought me to tears and really made me realise I need to get out there and do something!

    • @TheSlizzer348
      @TheSlizzer348 Před 3 lety +2

      Same dude, my happiest and most peaceful times are sitting in an ancient woodland on my own at night and once I’ve got my jab I’m joining the cause

  • @mrnarason
    @mrnarason Před 3 lety +1446

    Ancient, virgin or primeval woodlands/forests needs to be protected because they cannot be replaced. Destroying the will forever destroy the ecosystem, it cannot be "moved" like a house on a wheels or somethingm

    • @mistergeopolitics4456
      @mistergeopolitics4456 Před 3 lety +29

      At the same time all of China is currently connected by high speed rail which is cheap and efficient and leads to economic opportunities for millions of people. In the last 20 years China has lifted 800 million people out of poverty, largely thanks to their expanding high speed rail system which is world class.

    • @kk224gd6
      @kk224gd6 Před 3 lety +102

      @@mistergeopolitics4456 enjoy your trains when there's litteraly no natural ecosystems left in the world🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad Před 3 lety +61

      @@mistergeopolitics4456 clearing away natural forests isn't gonna reduce poverty in England by any significant amount.

    • @GarthBuxton
      @GarthBuxton Před 3 lety +44

      @@mistergeopolitics4456 CCP put them in the poverty in the first place. Plus you need to define the poverty line here.

    • @mistergeopolitics4456
      @mistergeopolitics4456 Před 3 lety +22

      @@GarthBuxton CCP never put them under poverty. China was a relatively well off country until western nations, led by the British, imposed a number of unfair treaties onto China using Opium and warfare. In any case, in the last 50 years China has achieved what it took the west hundreds of years to achieve by means of slavery, colonialism and imperialism.

  • @callumpettitt8192
    @callumpettitt8192 Před 3 lety +903

    We have no woodland left in this country. You've got to travel up to the Scottish highlands if you want to experience anything even remotely like nature here, England has no woodland to speak of anymore and with it, very little wildlife.

    • @StrikeDigital3D
      @StrikeDigital3D Před 3 lety +149

      Even the Scottish Highlands aren't especially natural. The classic "barren" barren look of the Scottish mountains isn't actually the way they are supposed to be. A thousand years ago, they would have been covered in trees, but due to clearing them for sheep farming, and killing all of our large predators, they have been pretty much destroyed.
      It's quite ironic that now they are seen as some of the most natural places in Britain, simply because they were just destroyed so long ago, rather than more recently.

    • @RichDreamz87
      @RichDreamz87 Před 3 lety +21

      Theres plenty of woodland in england like 90% of the land is woodland the rest is cities and small towns. If you live in London then you'll know how vast Epping Forest is.

    • @brunolondinese5857
      @brunolondinese5857 Před 3 lety +39

      @@RichDreamz87 so where are British farms?

    • @RichDreamz87
      @RichDreamz87 Před 3 lety +22

      @@brunolondinese5857 in Britain

    • @StrikeDigital3D
      @StrikeDigital3D Před 3 lety +91

      @@RichDreamz87 actually, woodland cover is just 10% in England, of which, only 15% is ancient woodland (meaning it has never been cut down and replanted). That's a total of 1.5% of the land in Britain is woodland that has never been cut down.

  • @fatfrank69
    @fatfrank69 Před 3 lety +208

    Meanwhile when we are the victims of robbery, assault, or mugging, there's no police available to respond. Thank God they're out there protecting the interests of the corporations though!

    • @spangebobb3903
      @spangebobb3903 Před 3 lety +5

      It’s because no one reports it, the police aren’t going to just teleport to you if you get mugged ect.

    • @TheDolphace
      @TheDolphace Před 3 lety +9

      @Robert Arnold we have guns.
      We just don't carry them around everywhere like a safety blanket.

    • @HenchmanSPARTA
      @HenchmanSPARTA Před 3 lety +3

      @Albert Fels HS2 isn't needed at all - doesn't even save that much time getting to London. Police shouldn't be involved at all.

    • @HenchmanSPARTA
      @HenchmanSPARTA Před 3 lety +5

      @@spangebobb3903 Greater Manchester police got caught this year not even recording over 100,000 reported crimes, many of which were violent. Try again

    • @HenchmanSPARTA
      @HenchmanSPARTA Před 3 lety +2

      @Albert Fels its not so much that it wouldn't be useful at all, but with an estimated £100bn, that money could be far better spent electrifying local railways, better commuter lines etc. HS2 won't benefit 90% of train commuters only those between London and Birmingham. It doesn't even take that long now.

  • @klaasvaak6137
    @klaasvaak6137 Před 3 lety +26

    this makes me so mad. The english goverment turnes out to be extremely good at hiding vital information like this from the world. respect to the people who are fighting for their environment

  • @theroidragedtrex7908
    @theroidragedtrex7908 Před 3 lety +211

    Yknow people doing the "koombaya" stuff always seemed silly to me, however as time has gone by the more I've realised the importance of conservation, especially in a place rife with history like an english forest.

    • @justinetaylor5924
      @justinetaylor5924 Před 3 lety +6

      Thanks for this comment. it really spoke to me.

    • @ivoryking509
      @ivoryking509 Před 3 lety +2

      Do you not realise how much of England is woodland and fields? This documentary is leftist hippy propaganda

    • @theroidragedtrex7908
      @theroidragedtrex7908 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ivoryking509 sorry here in the US we were taught that most trees in england were cut down and used during the industrial revolution. I assumed it was one of the last few forests in England but I guess im wrong.

    • @theroidragedtrex7908
      @theroidragedtrex7908 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ivoryking509 thought england was all farmland, pasture, bogs, and highland tundra

    • @ivoryking509
      @ivoryking509 Před 3 lety

      @@theroidragedtrex7908 there's huge forests in England, its the same as the hippies than moan about logging in the amazon... the amount of trees there would take 2000 years to chop down... they don't understand that to advance the human race we need to use earth's resources and luckily for us earth's resources are renewable

  • @k1medward
    @k1medward Před 3 lety +384

    Standing Rock, Amazonian fighters, Woodland folk, warriors everywhere... do not give up the fight. It’s about all of us.

    • @AliciaMully
      @AliciaMully Před 3 lety +18

      YES the Earth and all life on it depends on us not allowing corporations & governments to destroy it by greed or negligence.....

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat Před 3 lety +2

      Unfortunately, that it's about all of us is a little too late. Your generations before you including you let them take over the whole land indiscriminately, especially when it was happening elsewhere , even places like amazon forests are still busy supplying your must have furniture so you can get to binge on the latest while there's absolutely nothing wrong with the current one

    • @alrightyru
      @alrightyru Před 3 lety

      Vancouver Island Canada. Old growth forest fight :(

  • @ricLPHDMC
    @ricLPHDMC Před 3 lety +16

    The forest occupation scene is getting bigger and bigger all over Europe. Would be great to see high quality documentaries like these about socio-ecological struggles like these in countries like Germany, France and Poland.

    • @alrightyru
      @alrightyru Před 3 lety

      We're still protecting the old growth forests of Vancouver Island, 30 years later 🙏

  • @robwestern7702
    @robwestern7702 Před 3 lety +6

    There is nothing in the uk more beautiful than the Forrest woodlands the trees in those woods go back to the beginning of civilisation in the British islands just strolling through these beautiful places are a feeling of pure magic the power of ancient culture is a force only to be felt when your at peace within these places

  • @boomhauer1752
    @boomhauer1752 Před 3 lety +525

    Cuts down ancient woodland so the rich can be 10 minutes early for work ffs

    • @saltymonke3682
      @saltymonke3682 Před 3 lety +31

      funny that it's the labour party who wants this in the first place to make UK, more european

    • @Barry43
      @Barry43 Před 3 lety +7

      Well said

    • @bums009
      @bums009 Před 3 lety +52

      Lmao the rich!? It's the rich that are camping up in trees all day cos they don't have to work for a living apparently.
      Classic middle and upper middle class pretending they're helping the working man when they have no idea the priorities of an average working man.
      It's the labour party who wanted HS2 the most, in order to connect the North and South and create more job opportunities for the working and lower middle class in both ends of the country. (Mostly for the North ofc, we know they need all the help they can get, let's be honest lmao).

    • @Barry43
      @Barry43 Před 3 lety +7

      @@bums009 is that so the cost can go 100s of millions over budget $$$$$
      What are you talking about live to work or work to live just cause you want cash so bad at any expense be happy with what you got stop advocating destruction of the forest as we are running out of it fast once it's gone m8t you can go back feel some compassion fuks sake m8t fuk life bring in the tar level it off ae go for a walk you mite get it doubt it

    • @misterbear9211
      @misterbear9211 Před 3 lety +18

      @wisdom niko You join a conversation with "you're annoying" and "you know nothing" yet bring nothing to the table.
      Is that your way of flexing your wisdom and intelligence.

  • @Yes-sf5uu
    @Yes-sf5uu Před 3 lety +6

    What I think should happen is the government should focus on reinstating previously existing railway infrastructure, there are hundreds of disused railways across the UK many of which ran to or through Birmingham. Reinstating localised railways will go miles for giving smaller communities easier access to the big cities

  • @mohamednaflan4361
    @mohamednaflan4361 Před 3 lety +46

    That young lad using empathy to change the officer's mind. Respect sir.

  • @earthfm
    @earthfm Před 3 lety +14

    It started a bit random and without hope but finished good. Loving how the women (or somebody) captured the sound recording of the bat and made a strong checkamate case with it. I record sounds of endangered and unique habitats and im happy to se how the power of sound can actually make a difference. Good people those who went to protect the woods.

    • @tommeehan4061
      @tommeehan4061 Před 3 lety +2

      But in the end it didn’t make a difference

    • @alrightyru
      @alrightyru Před 3 lety +1

      Didn't the company do an environmental study first to know the wildlife? Or they cut that piece out thinking it was a bother. Let's hope the little bat gets to stay where he is.

  • @justwatching2428
    @justwatching2428 Před 3 lety +81

    It’s so unnecessary. As a northerner I have no interest in getting to London any quicker than I already. What we need is better investment in the infrastructure IN the North, not yet more money spent draining the entire economy into London.

    • @c.h.9547
      @c.h.9547 Před 3 lety +5

      1. HS2 provides jobs
      2. You do not represent the whole of the north
      3. Most business’ with the exception of some manufacturing companies have their roots in London (including our services which make up the majority of our exports as we run a trade surplus in services but deficit overall)
      4. There is significant investment and wealth in London that can then be more efficiently invested in the north through better communication and personal travel
      5. Increased tourism from people living in the cities in the north going down south (for eg camping) or the reverse benefits the respective local businesses.
      6. To just ‘invest in the infrastructure in the north’ means what? Subsidies? Guaranteed minimum price schemes? State owned railways, roads?
      7. Subsidies have opportunity cost that the government could use elsewhere in a more profitable area (London) to get better tax revenue and international presence in trade
      8. The north doesn’t suffer from structural unemployment so creating railways or roads in the north isn’t going to effect the mobility of labour as mobility within the north isn’t a problem, whereas, mobility between north and south is (another benefit of HS2)
      9. To better explain point 8, people that would like to get into the (e.g) tech industry can just use HS2 and then use that money received to spend on northern businesses, instead of relocating to London entirely (allows a further commute)
      10. Please don’t comment personal opinions without any knowledge of economic benefits or negatives considering this is such a widely debated topic and you chipping in simply encourages others to not do their own research and make their own informed decision.
      Have a swell day 😃

    • @scytheoflife1947
      @scytheoflife1947 Před 3 lety +5

      I'm not a northerner but have long known the south gets the lion share of investment so I can't blame you for not caring about HS2 and a quicker rail network. They cant even run the ones already running in most places to a decent standard with over the top fares

    • @lolcatmaroon
      @lolcatmaroon Před 3 lety +1

      As a Londoner, I cannot agree more!
      I grew up in Windsor and am priced out of home, and had to buy in a crap hole in East London in order to work and not get shafted by train fares.
      I would love to live in the North if it had better state schooling. The space, price and proximity to nature such as lake and peak District make it far more attractive for me.
      However gross underfunding for generations mean much of the North has poor schooling and high unemployment or low income earners. It will take a serious shakeup to fix it.
      The only positive I can see is that international travellers can get to the high growth north faster... But seriously, they should just have more international flights to Manchester not bloody build a third runway at Heathrow.

    • @scytheoflife1947
      @scytheoflife1947 Před 3 lety +2

      @@lolcatmaroon What I love is government in the UK tells us theres no money for new schools, NHS, more policing etc but in 2008 we went to the magic money tree and bailed the banks out. Now Covid I saw a statistic that says the NHS funding tripled during covid biggest increase in like decades. Of course when covid came the magic money tree had replenished.
      Now I am not naive I know that there borrowing to fund these things but the point is when the actual people whether it be North, South, East or West suddenly the money tree doesn't exist. I dont know a single person who doesn't think the NHS should be funded more but it took Covid to happen. A little off topic but its all related.

    • @marcustrevor1883
      @marcustrevor1883 Před 3 lety

      It is not just speed of travel to London. One of the most crucial benefits will be more space for commuter traffic and freight on regional, low speed railways. With population increasing and concerns about emissions we cannot afford to keep pushing more commuters onto already busy roads. We need more commuter services and that can only be achieved by moving high speed railway to its own dedicated network. This had to be built. Perhaps not immediately, but the longer it is left the more difficult and expensive it will get. We cannot avoid building infrastructure for ever, or offloading the problem for future generations.

  • @MrMultiAfrican
    @MrMultiAfrican Před 3 lety +289

    What made VICE decide to go back to their roots reporting on real stories?

    • @MILLIONMILESFRMHOME
      @MILLIONMILESFRMHOME Před 3 lety +3

      👏🏾

    • @bums009
      @bums009 Před 3 lety +47

      A few years of utter failure and shame hopefully. I'm glad they're back.

    • @NeoTemplar
      @NeoTemplar Před 3 lety +26

      maybe one of the trees was trans?

    • @DarthVantos
      @DarthVantos Před 3 lety +10

      Trump no longer in office.

    • @aesieaiyahcloe
      @aesieaiyahcloe Před 3 lety +13

      Yep No more Orange Man. Can't even make a fake article about him(most of those are btw) because he's distanced himself from the Media.
      Funny seeing these outlets cope with withdrawal. 🤣👍

  • @spongmongler6760
    @spongmongler6760 Před 3 lety +15

    "it has been purchased whether it has been paid for or not"
    purchased: "acquire (something) by paying for it; buy.", "obtain or achieve with effort or suffering."
    buy: "obtain in exchange for payment." - this payment being bruises.

  • @grimsleeper5945
    @grimsleeper5945 Před 3 lety +20

    Steve Masters, the Green Party councillor in this video once did a talk at my old secondary school. He seemed like a really good guy and I have a lot of respect for his actions.

  • @JoshuaC0rbit
    @JoshuaC0rbit Před 3 lety +43

    This hit home especially for me because I bought my house because it was adjacent to 30 acres of forest and there were people living back there along with bats and all kinds of wildlife and an entire ecosystem. I came back from a vacation to find it completely leveled and street signs where there used to be trees. I don't even know what happened to the people that were displaced but the damage to the ecosystem is huge. I'm glad that people are able to purchase decently priced homes in a new subdivision but I don't think they realize the environmental impact they had.

    • @arthurb8436
      @arthurb8436 Před 3 lety +7

      @Albert Fels you disgust me.

    • @Sakura11101
      @Sakura11101 Před 3 lety +11

      @Albert Fels eh the dehumanization of other humans isnt necessary

    • @ivanfry6138
      @ivanfry6138 Před 3 lety +3

      @albert fels I pray and know when you’re in your beautiful little tower of self opinion, one day one of those supposed bums you know so much about literally and figuratively changes your life for the worse. I can say the better but you wouldn’t have learned your lesson.

    • @pepesylvia848
      @pepesylvia848 Před 3 lety

      They're probably just like you.
      They saw a nice place to live and bought it. No thought as to what was there before.
      If you wanted the land behind your house, you should have bought that as well. Otherwise, you should have known they'd develop it as soon as the houses in the previous development were sold.

  • @arronmccarthy1
    @arronmccarthy1 Před 3 lety +162

    Similiar issues on Vancouver Island where we have only %1 of old growth left and police have issued an injunction to move in and arrest the protestors at Fairy Creek Old Growth forest blockade. Wish this could get more attention.

    • @seanbrummfield448
      @seanbrummfield448 Před 3 lety

      We in Britain always thought you Canadians were living fine over there. You guys are the happiest country in the Western hemisphere, with more political trust, better healthcare, etc. What could you guys possibly complain about, that the world could say, "Bla, bla your needs."?

    • @autisticfieldmarshall1006
      @autisticfieldmarshall1006 Před 3 lety +3

      @@seanbrummfield448 Canada is the exact opposite of that, at least under current regime. Trudeau's government has been a disaster for the environment. While Justin hands over grants to some bullshit "climate pacts", he looks the other way when our forests are being destroyed to free up space for more housing and our waters polluted with garbage. Not to mention that trudeau himself is basically a puppet of Chinese government, which is the biggest source of pollution in the world.

    • @seanbrummfield448
      @seanbrummfield448 Před 3 lety +1

      @@autisticfieldmarshall1006 Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I don't like Trudeau either. He has a menacing look in his face.

    • @alrightyru
      @alrightyru Před 3 lety

      Prayers for the island's trees 🙏

  • @bigboyyesyes184
    @bigboyyesyes184 Před 3 lety +10

    I just want to show my kids some beauty in the world, I don't want them raised in the industrialised norm.

  • @anonralph7081
    @anonralph7081 Před 3 lety +15

    Greetings from Ireland. I stand with you.

    • @meepulp
      @meepulp Před 3 lety

      We have a worse problem here

  • @kadenelijah9329
    @kadenelijah9329 Před 3 lety +370

    Anyone else recognize the buzzfeed unsolved music in the background lol

  • @centraltexasshotokankarate9489

    I’d like to thank the activists for what they have done and continue to do. It’s sad to see where this world is going.

    • @Bettie_Rage
      @Bettie_Rage Před 3 lety +3

      This "ancient woodland" is not bigger than about 1 acre. The actual woodland was already cut hundreds of years ago and turned into that wasteland of crop fields that surrounds this tiny patch of woods.

  • @wildandbarefoot
    @wildandbarefoot Před 3 lety +9

    If they found golden Pandas capping rare orchids they'd still plough ahead.

  • @ampxz951
    @ampxz951 Před 3 lety +3

    Hs2 will do far more good than harm and help millions of people. Stand back and let them work stop screaming like children

  • @topkat578
    @topkat578 Před 3 lety +307

    Those rich and famous environmentalists are never around where their help is really needed!

    • @risingforce9291
      @risingforce9291 Před 3 lety +13

      Money, money make money!

    • @evsal8087
      @evsal8087 Před 3 lety +17

      Because they, more often than not, are directly profiting from projects like these. A wealthy person crusading for environmental causes is a blatantly obvious hypocrite. You can't claim you care about the environment, while owning multiple mega-mansions and flying about on private jets. I don't care how many bullshit carbon credits you buy to "offset" that.

    • @Youboremenow
      @Youboremenow Před 3 lety +1

      @@evsal8087 Can you claim to be anti child abuse if you buy fast fashion?

    • @Kyryyn_Lyyh
      @Kyryyn_Lyyh Před 3 lety +1

      No, easy slowball their mate.

    • @lilbacon7777
      @lilbacon7777 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Youboremenow Lmao that's not really comparable. You can critique society while living inside it. A gilded age factory owner can't claim to be anti child abuse. But an average worker who bought those clothes can be. Same idea.

  • @alejandroalvarado9520
    @alejandroalvarado9520 Před 3 lety +276

    Kinda reminds me that one avatar episode where they meet those kids in the trees that hate the fire nation village lmao

    • @suddenuprising
      @suddenuprising Před 3 lety +20

      top tier reference

    • @SikhoGuwa
      @SikhoGuwa Před 3 lety +3

      Or avatar the movie

    • @gobarn1877
      @gobarn1877 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SikhoGuwa yeah, somehow the movie is a better metaphor

    • @GeNiaaz
      @GeNiaaz Před 3 lety +2

      LOL YEAH

    • @CrowClouds
      @CrowClouds Před 3 lety +1

      The world is dying aka ending. Just like every organism dies. There will be other earths. And we will reincarnate there. Me, I'm out, going to the void.

  • @VvV-kp3xw
    @VvV-kp3xw Před 3 lety +3

    In my country forests get cut down for coal mines and highways. Why the f are we letting them cutting us off our O2 supply and combining it with Carbon, so we cant breath it anymore? Madness

  • @RealFemale69
    @RealFemale69 Před 3 lety +8

    Article 17 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
    1. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
    2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
    Bruh moment

    • @Barry75391
      @Barry75391 Před 3 lety

      Boris has turned the UK into a police state

  • @mmakotal4388
    @mmakotal4388 Před 3 lety +78

    here in america native american r doing the same thing for the water from oil companies

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 Před 3 lety +5

      Same with Corrib

    • @pactimnoob1131
      @pactimnoob1131 Před 3 lety +6

      bruh their ancestors turning in their graves

    • @PabloPerez-ng5hw
      @PabloPerez-ng5hw Před 3 lety

      If only all Americans could be as awaken...

    • @Jrod110
      @Jrod110 Před 3 lety +1

      Except the difference is America is still the invader & Oil leakage destroys the ecosystem & water supply completely.

  • @oed84
    @oed84 Před 3 lety +28

    this makes my blood boil...
    the saddest part is, that this is happening all over the world. all in the name of "progress".
    and I'm pretty sure BJ meant 30% of England's remaining woodlands. just reading between the lines...

    • @morphkogan8627
      @morphkogan8627 Před 3 lety

      @@seantamburrino7446 Or just go Vegan which would reduce the amount of land needed for agriculture by 75%

    • @damienlewis6104
      @damienlewis6104 Před 3 lety

      Are you a Parkway fan?

  • @thej0f
    @thej0f Před 3 lety +2

    it blows my mind that people would even think about destroying ancient woodland! if you can justify tearing down ancient woodland then nothing is off limits

    • @Artemis7373
      @Artemis7373 Před 3 lety

      From what I have seen the workers actually enjoy bringing down 300 year old trees and killing wildlife and birds.

  • @marzouk6270
    @marzouk6270 Před 3 lety +1

    Sad how England used to be teeming with life and Woodlands almost like a mythical land from a fantasy genre. We had wolves, bears, elk etc.

  • @j3rka
    @j3rka Před 3 lety +214

    Even if you actually own your own land, the government can still come along and take it from you. In fact, no person can own land to 100%

    • @mikelowrey7454
      @mikelowrey7454 Před 3 lety +42

      People still think they own stuff in UK. Very dumB and guillable people. Read the page in your passport, in other words if the queen the satanic circle wants she will take it off you. Read you CAR log book, even tho you brought the car it not yours, Read your log book. Same thing with your homes you think you own them but we don't. All part of the great reset. Humans are gullible if we stood together regardless of colour race religion they would not dare do this, divide and conquer. We are doomed.

    • @saltymonke3682
      @saltymonke3682 Před 3 lety +5

      @@mikelowrey7454 you can move out from Her Majesty's land if you don't like it. France perhaps? You still pay property tax in US anyway, if you can't or don't pay, your property will be auctioned or foreclosed to pay the tax.

    • @vir4193
      @vir4193 Před 3 lety +26

      @@saltymonke3682 Your missing the point. Even though we think we "own" everything, we actually don't own anything.

    • @saltymonke3682
      @saltymonke3682 Před 3 lety

      @@vir4193 no I know, that's why you have to pay the property tax or council tax

    • @DieNibelungenliad
      @DieNibelungenliad Před 3 lety +16

      That's because a country is defined by the land the government owns. No one can buy ownership of land from the government with complete sovereignty. They only hold land. They still have to follow the rules of the government. The Gov is one big landlord. That's how it has always been since the days of old Kings.

  • @NYPATRIOTBX
    @NYPATRIOTBX Před 3 lety +82

    Destruction of forests under the guise of “saving the environment by reducing carbon footprint”

    • @FowlorTheRooster1990
      @FowlorTheRooster1990 Před 3 lety +1

      and then the government goes taxing us for having carbon emitting vehicles but wont make them more available to the average person.
      the government punishes us for something that we cant help because we cant afford electric cars

    • @jermainetrainallen6416
      @jermainetrainallen6416 Před 3 lety

      HS2 will help the environement by releasing capacity on the existing rail network freight services which cuts carbon emissions by taking HGV's off the roads, cutting domestic flights and encouraging modal shift to rail from cars.

    • @NYPATRIOTBX
      @NYPATRIOTBX Před 3 lety +1

      @@jermainetrainallen6416 The UK isn’t that big, I doubt they need more of their forests being cut down for the sake of more train lines that not too many people want more of. Not to mention the land being stolen from under the people who rightfully own it.

    • @jermainetrainallen6416
      @jermainetrainallen6416 Před 3 lety

      @@NYPATRIOTBX We need HS2 for the reasons I've mentioned. There are much more needless and damaging projects out there, most of them road projects. The
      Lower Thames Crossing (a 14.5 mile road) affects almost as much ancient woodland as HS2 (54 hectares) while HS2 (a 470 mile railway) affects 58 hectares for example. HS2 affects only 0.018% of the UK's ancient woodland which isn't bad considering it is a 300+ mile railway. Many road projects affect much more ancient woodlands than HS2 does.

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 3 lety

      Wind turbine farms & solar farms.

  • @kashthkkr87
    @kashthkkr87 Před 3 lety +10

    It's very sad and disheartening to see this happening everywhere :( Human greed has no limits, it will end with the end of our mother earth, which I don't see far away from now.

    • @Rokaize
      @Rokaize Před 3 lety +1

      It won’t end anything. The planet and its life will carry on just fine even after we are gone

  • @MeAMoose
    @MeAMoose Před 3 lety +1

    I hate to be the one to say this, but with an ever-expanding population with increases in traffic we need to expand and enhance our infrastructure. While an ancient woodland is being destroyed in order to build the new rail-line, a new transport route is being installed allowing quick movement between Birmingham and London. At the end of the day it's a balancing act between a rising population development and maintaining pre-establish ecosystems (or building new ecosystems).

  • @johngalt3138
    @johngalt3138 Před 3 lety +8

    This isn't a battle over woodlands. This is a battle over property rights. If the property is still on the landowner's deed then they have taken it by eminent domain. Eminent domain is theft. Period.

    • @johngalt3138
      @johngalt3138 Před 3 lety +1

      @linlinö önilnil Or for any lovers of big government for that matter.

  • @curst2948
    @curst2948 Před 3 lety +112

    There won’t be anywhere you can go that will save you once the environment is gone

    • @Angel-tw3ko
      @Angel-tw3ko Před 3 lety

      Regardless the world will be destroyed by fire, no matter what.

    • @a.m.doesit9347
      @a.m.doesit9347 Před 3 lety

      mars

    • @curst2948
      @curst2948 Před 3 lety +2

      @@a.m.doesit9347 it’s all riding on Musk now lmao

  • @sabrinamerolla6590
    @sabrinamerolla6590 Před 3 lety +3

    HAVING to watch all this is heartbreaking, but the constant advertisements interruption is outrageous. Quite emblematic of the system we live in though. No way to dissent from them, @Vice News?

    • @cosmickingdom625
      @cosmickingdom625 Před 3 lety

      Just subscribe to CZcams premium. It's cheap and worth it. No ads.

  • @r.h.f.6073
    @r.h.f.6073 Před 3 lety +6

    solidarity with all land and water defenders. we fight a common struggle all around the world.

  • @Special_Agent_NSB
    @Special_Agent_NSB Před 3 lety +10

    I’m with the protesters on this. England needs to protect its few remaining woodlands.

  • @yassinahmed4288
    @yassinahmed4288 Před 3 lety +349

    This world getting crazier... most thanks to those heroes who said NO 🎩👏🏼

    • @bigmac7077
      @bigmac7077 Před 3 lety +7

      Thanks to the bats you mean lol

    • @pakde8002
      @pakde8002 Před 3 lety +3

      They wouldn't do this if everyone stood up and said no they wouldn't dare but the ancient woodlands will be razed ostensibly for the sake of a few jobs, but in reality for the wealthy to quickly commute to London from their posh country estates and the profits to be had from grifting off public funds.

    • @CommonSenserules1981
      @CommonSenserules1981 Před 3 lety

      Hardly

  • @SKtube0
    @SKtube0 Před 3 lety +1

    Trespassing isn't a criminal offense in the UK? That's surprising to me, but I'm not at all shocked by all this now. Here in the US, you trespass onto my private property, you're liable to get shot.

  • @JR-ut2ne
    @JR-ut2ne Před 3 lety +1

    Environmentalists always tell people that they should use the railway instead of driving and now they are protesting the building of a new fast railway line which would make going by train much more attractive.

  • @ReclusiveEagle
    @ReclusiveEagle Před 3 lety +179

    1:34 This is how Watchdogs Legion starts

    • @mitchellmaytorena1137
      @mitchellmaytorena1137 Před 3 lety +7

      I bought the game but never ended up playing it. How is it? Is it worth a play through?

    • @PogGamerMan
      @PogGamerMan Před 3 lety +2

      @@robertmacnaughton4190 and ironically it took place in Britain

    • @stein1885
      @stein1885 Před 3 lety

      @@mitchellmaytorena1137 Besides some bugs on pc the other ports run great, still worth a play through.

    • @474yx
      @474yx Před 3 lety +2

      @@mitchellmaytorena1137 not really.. a boring story..

    • @damianw2761
      @damianw2761 Před 3 lety

      @Nigel Lush exiting? Missles? C'mon this is grade school spelling

  • @Charlzton
    @Charlzton Před 3 lety +49

    I really want to know more about the landowner who says he owns the freehold to the field and that HS2 have no legal claim to it

    • @mistersands339
      @mistersands339 Před 3 lety +4

      under the law the government can still take your land for "vital" infrastructure, with payment at their discretion.

    • @marcustrevor1883
      @marcustrevor1883 Před 3 lety +7

      The government has the legal claim to any land. It is called compulsory purchase, and without it there would not be a single road or railway in the country because at least 1 person is always going to refuse to sell their land.

    • @danielglassmeyer1381
      @danielglassmeyer1381 Před 3 lety

      It’s England….so you’re looking at a well connected heir likely in cahoots with the ‘state’ over the decision. Would imagine even had negotiation leverage and had a favorable return for forfeiting the property.

  • @weltschmerz333
    @weltschmerz333 Před 3 lety +17

    a cause worth fighting for, protect the environment...it feels like we are fighting a losing battle, but we have to stand up against the destruction of our planet no matter what

    • @RackHasAttacked
      @RackHasAttacked Před 3 lety

      Not really, in hs2 a few million trees will be cut down and a few million more replanted so it doesn't really make a difference

    • @weltschmerz333
      @weltschmerz333 Před 3 lety +4

      @@RackHasAttacked replanting trees doesnt fix cutting down 500 year old trees, this forrest is ancient please educate yourself

  • @runna9647
    @runna9647 Před 3 lety +2

    Yall are so polite. "I'm not trespassing yall are. *waves hellooo deeaarr

  • @flejt7107
    @flejt7107 Před 3 lety +45

    The amount of brits in country idk how theres not more folks protecting their woodland from these new age encroachers for their profitable agendas

    • @tytzup5397
      @tytzup5397 Před 3 lety +6

      Everyone is too busy chasing their arses on the perpetual hamster wheel.

    • @2000rayc
      @2000rayc Před 3 lety +2

      wouldn't it be better to do it underground?

    • @Bringon-dw8dx
      @Bringon-dw8dx Před 3 lety

      Most people have jobs annoyingly

  • @Squimblorbimblor
    @Squimblorbimblor Před 3 lety +74

    Really important story, glad vice covered this

  • @davidbarry5527
    @davidbarry5527 Před 3 lety +3

    Respect to the farmers for trying to help .... Hard watch but nice to Vice going back to it's root's...

  • @mynewcolour
    @mynewcolour Před 3 lety +8

    7:42 “We’ll arrest you for something because money and power”

  • @natashalion8028
    @natashalion8028 Před 3 lety +128

    THANKS, to all involved in saving the area. We ALL need to be Guardians !

    • @gabbajon5654
      @gabbajon5654 Před 3 lety +2

      you can find all info to get involved on the @stopHS2 instagram as well as the individual site accounts like @rolddahlwoods for st jones' hill

  • @MuffinManUSN
    @MuffinManUSN Před 3 lety +11

    The character of the people protecting those woods far outweighs that of those just doing their jobs. Your sense of duty is amazing even when paralleled with that of a police officer. Our hearts ache for those slave to a system, and those protecting one alike.

  • @timothyhilditch
    @timothyhilditch Před 3 lety +3

    Here's some nuance, the woodland in the UK has been increasing over the last 70 years. At the end of WW2 woodland cover was at 5%. Today it is at about 13%. The first record of woodland was in 1086 at 15%.
    Today we have the same amount of woodland that they had 700 years ago.
    Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forestry_in_the_United_Kingdom

  • @herbalursa3524
    @herbalursa3524 Před 3 lety +3

    All i see is executive weakness... Change the route of the railway, increase the budget, build your rail and build more forests. Do both. But the ruling class is too weak for that. And yes, stubbornness is a weakness.

  • @nawa3236
    @nawa3236 Před 3 lety +89

    My respect to the warriors. Making a stand however fruitless their mission was. Do not make it easy for the destroyers. Any other way they would have been called terrorists.

  • @AlecioG
    @AlecioG Před 3 lety +11

    It's fucking sad that over 70% of the UK used to be dense woodlands and now look at it. Nothing but endless fields as far as the eye can see, and the few remaining forests are largely monoculture pine forests for the logging industry

    • @KDH-br6hy
      @KDH-br6hy Před 3 lety +1

      @@zakariyaiqbal6130 ? What that gonna do

    • @maxbrandstetter528
      @maxbrandstetter528 Před 3 lety +1

      @@zakariyaiqbal6130 lol isn’t gonna recreate these delicate ecosystems

    • @daemonk756890
      @daemonk756890 Před 3 lety +1

      I laugh at people who say the the English countryside is in any way pleasant. It's pathetic, just field after field after field. Our forests are an absolute priceless treasure.

    • @daemonk756890
      @daemonk756890 Před 3 lety +1

      @@zakariyaiqbal6130 but ancient woodland takes a reeeeeeally long time to develop, as the name very heavily implies.

    • @daemonk756890
      @daemonk756890 Před 3 lety

      @@zakariyaiqbal6130 as much as I agree that we should be planting more trees, protecting the ones we have is far more important in the short term for so many reasons.

  • @gregmarah8908
    @gregmarah8908 Před 3 lety +1

    There's a distinct lack of balance in this. Lies being told in regards to when HS2 will be carbon neutral, that over 100 ancient woodlands are directly affected when they won't be. Shame these individuals aren't as passionate about the 4000 miles of road building that are being done as part of RIS2 which will destroy significantly more woodland than a railway will, a railway which is still the most green form of mass transportation of goods and people.

  • @kristapsbuivids8530
    @kristapsbuivids8530 Před 3 lety +2

    But have they thought about the fact that the new railway route will save a lot of resources - like fuel and electricity + a lot more people will choose to travel by train instead of a car.

    • @houstonharwood7197
      @houstonharwood7197 Před 3 lety

      How expensive will tickets be? How many people are we talking about who will take that new line rather than drive? Are there other alternatives that could reduce an equal amount of emissions without these environmental costs?
      Many big projects like this involve teams of people who put out studies touting all the massive benefits and minimizing any downsides. Teams of legal experts are hired to ensure regulations, environmental policy, etc., are followed to the bare minimum in an effort to save money and maximize profit. Cost over runs, sometimes massive overruns, are the norm. Of course, New infrastructure is badly needed -- and rail is absolutely essential to achieving a carbon free future. But that doesn't mean all rail projects are inherently good -- or perhaps a project that is "good" (lots of benefits and a fair amount of downsides) could be substantially better if people take action and exert pressure on policy makers to reduce downsides and boost upsides.
      Sometimes a small group of people taking an extreme position/action can exert just enough pressure to bring about a moderate change. That's the part of the beauty of a free society. A small number of people engaging in some civil, non-violent disobedience can sometimes bring a little change to systems controlled by extremely powerful interests. These protesters will never cancel this rail line. However, they could potentially force the planners to conclude it's worth it for publicity reasons to add additional environmental safeguards. Such protest actions also create an incentive in the marketplace for competitors to be more environmentally responsible. Either way, the rail line is getting built. The actions of these protesters have almost no net downside to society, and carry a significant positive insofar as they put more scrutiny and more eyeballs on these massively expensive and *potentially* environmentally hazardous project.

  • @775LonelyBoy
    @775LonelyBoy Před 3 lety +166

    Only thing stronger than fear is hope. Keep fighting

  • @ahdr8852
    @ahdr8852 Před 3 lety +126

    Protect our environment ❤️👍

    • @hsvr
      @hsvr Před 3 lety +1

      Throw your house down and plant some trees then

  • @MrGeometres
    @MrGeometres Před 3 lety +2

    Environmentalists: We need to use more trains and public transport to save the environment.
    Also environmentalists: How dare you build new train tracks!11!!!11!!11!!!
    bloody hippies...

    • @CactusCowboyDan
      @CactusCowboyDan Před 3 lety

      We already had trains before this project. The reason they protest this one is because its as pointless as Trump's border wall. Not to mention damaging.
      Do not mock those who are trying to protect what little free woodland they have left on such a small island.

    • @Artemis7373
      @Artemis7373 Před 3 lety

      Do tell what is the point of building something which destroys everything is is supposed to be going to save ?

  • @lalala6255
    @lalala6255 Před 3 lety +1

    Although I think the whole HS2 plan is an awful idea and a waste of money, but I will say I have worked on a felling site in Oxford and they carried out every procedure in place to check every tree that was coming down for any sort of wildlife. They would check for bat's by putting cameras down 'features' (holes in the trees where wildlife, but specifically bat's in this case). They would also carefully rig down every branch, limb and log that comes off the tree so the 'ancient' soil isn't ruined or disturbed.
    Of course I can only speak from what I have seen but they do carry out the necessary checks before doing anything.

  • @seunayadi
    @seunayadi Před 3 lety +66

    I live here, in Aylesbury and I didn’t even know this was going on

    • @1RAGEACE
      @1RAGEACE Před 3 lety +7

      Lovely countryside there, get out more this summer fam

    • @xelanosbig
      @xelanosbig Před 3 lety +6

      Bro how ayelsbury is full of anti hs2 signs

    • @itchyballsack6627
      @itchyballsack6627 Před 3 lety +3

      Drive up to the top of the Wendover bypass, straight over the roundabout and about 100 yards on the right is/was a anti HS2 camp set up. These guys deserve respect for what they're trying to achieve but unfortunately the pound note will win again. The woods around the Chilterns is priceless. I had the very rare experience of seeing a lynx up there a few months back. I love the red kites, deers, owls and all the other wildlife you see but they'll be gone soon to save people 20 minutes on the morning commute...

    • @ce1834
      @ce1834 Před 3 lety

      Because they’re building 10 miles of tunnels under you in Buckinghamshire and 13 miles more into London because of the lobbying

  • @dandedee1
    @dandedee1 Před 3 lety +102

    Well done Vice for making this

    • @timbird2741
      @timbird2741 Před 3 lety +6

      Its actually a charity called Not1More :)

  • @bertboy13
    @bertboy13 Před 3 lety +1

    Good to see vice doing an open honest two sided argument... Forgetting one of the key reasons here for HS2 is to reduce carbon emissions as a result of internal flights. A lot of people don't understand how frequently people fly from one end of the UK and back in a day - this will reduce those emissions.

    • @Artemis7373
      @Artemis7373 Před 3 lety

      Tony May, Emeritus Transport Professor at Leeds University, said: “Even on optimistic predictions HS2 takes 65 years from its completion before its carbon saving (through low-carbon trains) has offset the carbon costs of construction.
      “So up to 2050 (the critical deadline for achieving nearly zero emissions) HS2 is a carbon burden on the country. It doesn't save carbon at all.

  • @abroom3908
    @abroom3908 Před 3 lety +5

    Here in my country, people grow trees for this same reason but government be like nahhhh let's sell these trees, seeds to china

  • @shamanahaboolist
    @shamanahaboolist Před 3 lety +46

    Imagine how empty your soul must be to take that job as one of those enforcement agents.

    • @DMWBN3
      @DMWBN3 Před 3 lety +1

      The way they bleed they are "high court enforcement officers" like people should be scared of them, abusing power every way which possible.

    • @RokeJulianLockhart.s4eb2q
      @RokeJulianLockhart.s4eb2q Před 3 lety

      @Train 2noplace Not necessarily, but somewhat.

    • @Artemis7373
      @Artemis7373 Před 3 lety +1

      What about those workers who clearly enjoy demolishing 300 year old trees, killing birds bats and everything a round. I have seen videos of them doing it.

    • @lanaholmes7098
      @lanaholmes7098 Před 3 lety

      I think the word your looking for is tryants!!

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 3 lety

      On the other hand... they believe that they are helping build a high-speed rail alternative to carbon-intensive air & car travel, as well as a solution to take traffic off the existing lines used by both passenger & freight rail traffic.

  • @ayandas874
    @ayandas874 Před 3 lety +6

    When you are being arrested by the police for something you believe in, don't shout as if you would change those people's mind by startling them. Be openly and proudly defiant about your non cooperation.

  • @Arrivatrainswalesfan
    @Arrivatrainswalesfan Před 3 lety +1

    These uninformed people are protesting the greenest mode of transport! Road transport projects are not seeing this kind of protest despite destroying much more green land. It’s confusing.

    • @ricLPHDMC
      @ricLPHDMC Před 3 lety

      In fact they are. Look at Germany and France. Many forest and field occupations and permanent protests are fighting against new roads and highways for motorized individual transport. For example look up Dannenröder Forst, A14, KeineA20

  • @GorilieVR
    @GorilieVR Před 3 lety +1

    While bringing in harmful plastics including single use plastic bottles, building with man made boards containing harmful formaldehyde and other eco toxins. Hypocrisy much?

  • @Sir_Richard_Long
    @Sir_Richard_Long Před 3 lety +16

    I see the same thing here, what happened in the heart of Budapest, Hungary. A right wing gov. demolishing a nature park what the locals loved, for business. Shameful corruption. And people still vote for them...

  • @1nativetree
    @1nativetree Před 3 lety +74

    humans will not stop till it's all gone RIP Nature

    • @arthurhughes-watts1180
      @arthurhughes-watts1180 Před 3 lety +10

      Well probably kill ourselves and over 100,000s of years nature will recover

    • @Barry43
      @Barry43 Před 3 lety +2

      Wont be long 5 years we will have no rights left no gathering phone passports as identity to get food playing the covid games only strengthen them

    • @rl751
      @rl751 Před 3 lety +1

      @@arthurhughes-watts1180 let’s hope

    • @CarShopping101
      @CarShopping101 Před 3 lety +3

      @@arthurhughes-watts1180 Actually nature recovers remarkably quickly when humans are absent. Look at Chernobyl. Even only 30 some years after a horrific nuclear accident nature has already returned.

    • @arthurhughes-watts1180
      @arthurhughes-watts1180 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rl751 if you look at what's life's gone through over billion of years life would recover

  • @emmastolwood2211
    @emmastolwood2211 Před 3 lety +1

    My tree saving hero's. Sad it's a battle you cant win :(. I have planted 1000's of trees as a volunteer for the HoEF but new cannot replace the eco systems of ancient forest. What makes you mad is HS2 is not needed and a complete waste of money. Good Luck x

  • @markus9641
    @markus9641 Před 3 lety +1

    This has to be the most selfish people I've ever met. The UK is trying to build a railway that will help millions of people travel for work and for family purposes. But they reject that for their own sentimental value for the woods?
    The UK is not a place to be in if you like forestation. You are better off moving to Scandinavia or someplace else.

    • @dombridges01
      @dombridges01 Před 3 lety

      You completely missed the point of these protests lol

    • @markus9641
      @markus9641 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dombridges01 Feel free to enlighten me, that way I dont have to re-watch the whole video.

  • @ihsanayyasy6036
    @ihsanayyasy6036 Před 3 lety +35

    sadly, unbeknown to them and most people in the developed countries, this happens every day and every minute in the developing countries, on a much enormous scale.

    • @nataliekhanyola5669
      @nataliekhanyola5669 Před 3 lety +4

      It does, it really is sad.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 Před 3 lety

      Look at the Corrib gas field, read an article about an Elizabethan home owner who has tried and failed to stop. The planners have failed to avoid any homes or woods, bent bastards

    • @callumpettitt8192
      @callumpettitt8192 Před 3 lety +1

      Very true but here in the UK, nature is a precious commodity. We're one of the most densely populated countries in Europe and most of our woodland is gone already, certainly in England anyway.

    • @yungjoemighty879
      @yungjoemighty879 Před 3 lety

      But this is about England

    • @nataliekhanyola5669
      @nataliekhanyola5669 Před 3 lety

      @@callumpettitt8192 is it due to farming? I never understood why England has endless rolling hills that aren't used for anything but just exist.

  • @clintwestwood1895
    @clintwestwood1895 Před 3 lety +48

    What does the Queen have to say about all this? You guys created an underground tunnel across the channel, do the same for the trees go under them.

    • @saltymonke3682
      @saltymonke3682 Před 3 lety +3

      cost, H2S is almost 100% overbudget than the initial planning

    • @minigrande1939
      @minigrande1939 Před 3 lety +11

      You obviously are not British.The queen does not have any governmental or political power.The Uk is a democarcy.She will have an opinion yet she has to very careful because by agreeing or not she maybe deemed as siding with a political party .The Uk has slowly been destroyed due to global affairs and a very right wing party being elect for nearly 3 terms .I hope it ends well

    • @bartomalatesta5652
      @bartomalatesta5652 Před 3 lety +1

      @@minigrande1939 not so much of a democracy if you cant really elect the head of state

    • @GooopGoooop
      @GooopGoooop Před 3 lety +4

      @@bartomalatesta5652 This. Did we vote for Theresa? No. Did we vote for Borris? No. Democracy is dead in this country, and this video only supports that statement.

    • @AtomicSymphonic
      @AtomicSymphonic Před 3 lety

      @@GooopGoooop most of your countrymen voted for Boris, though, so... At this point, the Left has lost a lot of influence and these forests being lost forever is part of it and cannot be prevented any longer.
      It's unfortunate, but life can be completely unfair sometimes...

  • @danthomas9658
    @danthomas9658 Před 2 lety +2

    These new police powers are absolutely disgusting.
    Arresting someone for climbing a tree.... And not even saying to them the reason.

  • @MWUBZUK
    @MWUBZUK Před 3 lety +4

    finally some mainstream coverage of these protests! these people are wonderful and ive been visiting these camps for a few years now!

  • @minigrande1939
    @minigrande1939 Před 3 lety +11

    Im a British man (born 10 miles from these woods) can we please get some polotitions in place who care and love the UK ,because we so have not for over a decade now and its really starting to show.

  • @crustycobs2669
    @crustycobs2669 Před 3 lety +9

    This infrastructure infringes on Mother Nature. Bless all, and hope it's not an exercise in futility to try to protect the environment.

  • @drummerguy612
    @drummerguy612 Před 3 lety +1

    Invest in underground tunneling for these woodland areas and both parties win. UK is trying to keep up and stay relevant by building this high speed train, cant blame them really. If I were the protesters I’d bring something like this to the table that’s actually somewhat plausible. Just saying “stop” won’t go anywhere. You have to present a solution

  • @loggerslife5821
    @loggerslife5821 Před 3 lety +1

    As a logger i find this funny, because these people life in timber houses and write on paper en probably sit on a wood chair

  • @ryancaldwell5377
    @ryancaldwell5377 Před 3 lety +30

    It looks like England has an aspiration to become like Trantor from Asimov's Foundation series. Pave the world and put it under a metal dome.
    In such a small country, creating barriers through the middle of an ecosystem could wipe out larger swaths of the ecology than they plan because of disturbances to the native range of various animal and plant species.

  • @fairdose
    @fairdose Před 3 lety +13

    If you keep cutting down trees, you begin to destabilize the soil and earth since the tree roots keep earth in place. You eventually start creating flood plains.

  • @rakuriku87
    @rakuriku87 Před 3 lety

    Even this may come as a shock to many of you, herr in Finland, only 5% of our forrests are oldgrown native forrest. The rest is just 20-60 year old planted, very homogenous tree fields. This is a fact, many places state that 70% of Finland is forrest but this is a huge stretch. 70% of Finland is FORESTRY area, meaning anything from just cutted down huge areas to just planted rows of pine.

  • @MR-op3mo
    @MR-op3mo Před 3 lety +1

    If they save this woodland, doesn't that mean that these people should be evicted because the woodland doesn't belong to them

    • @CactusCowboyDan
      @CactusCowboyDan Před 3 lety

      The woodlands belong to the landowners. And most of them allow public footpaths where dog walkers and hikers can go. But now the landowners are being overruled by the government.

  • @jw6489
    @jw6489 Před 3 lety +40

    I hope these protesters never give up, never stop fighting for our world.

    • @hsvr
      @hsvr Před 3 lety

      I hope they all get arrested

    • @ze89412
      @ze89412 Před 3 lety +1

      Lol they don’t care about the environment they just hate rich people

  • @cakestalker
    @cakestalker Před 3 lety +1

    Trees are plants and you plant new ones and they grow back just like any other plant. Ironically these people will not cut down a tree, but they gladly support cutting down other types of plants for food. You plant new trees and they grow back just like any other plants.. like vegetables and fruits. England doesn't have any rainforests, so there is no argument for any irreversible habitant loss or any damage to the ecosystem. In fact there are more trees today than 100 years ago due to the paper industry. Why? They plant a lot of trees and cut them down and then they plant new ones.. just like with vegetables and fruits.

  • @friederkumpf8158
    @friederkumpf8158 Před 3 lety +3

    Innocent question: isn't a high speed train better, as it makes cars redundant?

    • @ArivanAshstar
      @ArivanAshstar Před 3 lety +1

      Replying before this comment disappears

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 3 lety +1

      And short-haul flights. Plus it also takes off congestion from the existing lines that are bring used for both passenger & freight services...

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