How to Tie and Store a Rescue Webbing Loop
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- čas přidán 20. 12. 2011
- The Webbing Loop with a "Key" style carabiner has numerous utility and rescue applications. It's a very low cost piece of equipment that can be purchased for around $17.00. The options for deployment are only limited by the ingenuity of the individual carrying it. As long as the webbing loop is tied and stored properly it can be a very useful and unobtrusive piece of equipment.
The webbing shown in the video was 20 feet of 1 inch tubular - Which makes a 9 foot loop. Tubular webbing has a MBS (minimum breaking strength) of 4,000 pounds. You could also use 1 inch flat webbing which has an MBS of 5,000 pounds.
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Dale G. Pekel
Glossed over the only part we actually needed to see with the two water knots
thanks.. i just bought 20' of this 1" webbing at EMS yesterday and i'm still experimenting with it. This video was really helpful!
I paid 8 bucks for the whole thing.. $0.40 per foot.
Excellent video. I'm taking FF1 right now and being left handed has made knots difficult for me. Your instructional pace and thought out demo was a huge help.
Hi Dale, first off I'd just like to say thank you for all the instructional videos. It is appreciated. As member of a small career department with no training facility and a very small training budget, I struggle to find ways to keep training interesting and fresh. If possible I wou
I generally just keep my webbing in a roll, held in place with an ems glove. I like the daisy chain, never seen it before but has a lot of potential. Thank you for posting the video!
Yeah that's a very popular storage option Ken - I also keep a 5.5 foot in a straight roll in my left pants pocket, but I don't use the EMS glove. Awhile back I also placed my 9 foot daisy chained loop in my left pocket as well, but made a slight change to the safety end that allows for a very rapid deployment. I plan on making another video showing that change in the future. Thanks for your comment bro!
+DALE G. PEKEL 👍😎
Thanks for all the tips Dale. I like webbing so much that I carry two lengths. The first one is usually holding open a pesky screen door.
Thank you Dale this was very helpful!
Nicely done. Thank you for the video!!
That's cool it's like daisy chaining a extension cord but a little more precise.
This is just what I needed!
Thank you for your instructional video. Very well executed instruction and vid..
great tutorial! thank you for this.
great video!
Great info - thanks!
Very practical. Thanks
Here is a tip for you Dale. Keep your webbing in a rubber/medical glove so it stays dry.
great video thank you
Much appreciated.
I’ve been looking for a good video on this and am glad I found this. Thanks Bro because I just was able to perfectly do this now. Thank you! Excellent video…..
Excellent
one can make a even more secure water knot if you tuck the one end into the tube of the other end. then move your knot to the center of the webbing. Also cleans up the ends from hanging out
West Texas Prepper I’ve always called that a beer knot!
Hey Dale. Great video. Where did you buy your 20ft. 1 inch of rubber rescue webbing?
cool. which would you say you like better?
Would appreciate a copy of the bail out prop. Thanks and stay safe.
Be sure that the carabiner is NFPA approved as well
are you career or volly? I hear vollys prefer the daisy chain
I've looked everywhere for those petzl carabiners is there any chance you'd be willing to sell one or two depending on how many you have of the petzl attache round stock carabiners? I really liked your video as well I found it super useful have you ever thought about using tape or stitching to hold the tails in place so it couldn't loosen? Something I've been thinking about cuz some people say the water not can be unsafe if a rock or a stick catches the knot it can pull it open pretty easy but I like it so I've been thinking of ways to make sure it stays safe. If you're interested in selling the carabiners that would be amazing if not totally fine I just like your video either way
I have since switched to an even better carabiner - A little larger for better dexterity and a larger opening - It's also less expensive - The Black Diamond Rocklock Screwgate - see this link: antigravityequipment.com/climbing-carabiners-beaverton/rocklock-screwgate-carabiner-black-diamond
That water knot is called a tape knot in rock climbing.
@Sma 556 Here is a video about such a test:
czcams.com/video/W00xgm-wEzI/video.html
And here about other dangers with this knot:
czcams.com/video/mXe-8GmS08k/video.html
I keep my daisy chain attached to my gemtor harness with a screw lock carabiner but the carabiner lock keeps screwing itself shut somehow this causes for a longer deploy time is there a way I can keep it from doing that or do I just have to deal with it?
Buy an auto locking carabiner. You can unlock and open (for the twist models, you twist, some models are a specific pressure system with magnets) and deploy in one motion instead of having to screw it open for a while and they are just as safe.
Use a pair of pliers to snug the screw in the open position. Keep in mind that fine motor skills are lost in high stress situations and gloves can make it difficult to operate the lock if you switch to an auto lock biner.
+cvfdeng306 What's the reason for needing it tied in a 'daisy' chain? Also, do you need the carabiner? I ask because I just joined the volunteer FD and was given some webbing but they never told us about this info.
+Shaine MacDonald It shortens the length of the webbing (typically 30 feet or so) to about 2 feet while keeping it neat and easy to deploy. The carabiner is not required. It just helps to get the chain started and you can use it to clip the chain to your gear/belt.
Aaron Beagle
Thanks! So it's easy to take apart when done up like that?
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Привет! Скажи пожалуйста, а какая длина верёвки должна быть? Я из России и у нас это не практикуется,хотелось бы научиться и практиковать. Спасибо!
Hi! Please tell me, what is the length of the rope should be? I am from Russia and we have not practiced,I would like to learn and practice. Thank you!
20 feet of 1 inch tubular webbing makes a 9 foot webbing loop - Sorry I am not sure what the metric conversions are. I hope this helps and good luck!
9 feet of 20 this is only for hinges for your legs? 9 or is it something else? Just the translation is a bit not clear result?
Нейлоновая лямка показанное на видео, имеет длину 6 метров. При соединении вместе он образует петлю длиной около 2,75 м. Я предпочитаю нейлоновые лямки шириной 2,5 см.
Thank you very much!
I got a better faster way. And it doesn't matter if it's twisted
The daisy chain is much simpler to learn, teach and deploy: can anyone explain why use this much more complicated method?
Dave - The double daisy chain is not more complicated if you practice it - It's used for more compact storage. If you use a single daisy chain tie with a 9 foot loop it will be a lot longer than if you double it up before tying. I also have another method for finishing which makes for a faster deployment of the chain when carrying the loop in you pocket - I just don't have a video of it yet. Remember you can also use a simple straight roll which many FFs prefer and requires no skill to configure and store. I use this method for a second 5.5 webbing loop that I carry. Hope this explains it and thanks for your question.
Can you link to the store again?
Do a Google search for 1" tubular webbing - I prefer the fluorescent yellow for visibility. The carabiner I recommend is the Black Diamond Rocklock Screw Gate "Key" Style - I would do the same Google search. REI has them, but I've seen them on other websites for less that $9.00 so it pays to shop around.
okay awesome i just became a volunteer firefighter with Story County in Nevada!
Congrats!
I got the water knot tide but having trouble with the daisy chain!
I wouldn't stick a piece of that out of my knee pad, webbing will melt and catch on fire, unless Nomex. We always use overhand safeties to finish out water knots. Still give you thumbs up, though. good video.
I am trying to make a kit to sell I would like for u to emailme
I would never trust a "key" ring style Carabiner. They are not designed to bare any weight. If you want to use a Carabiner be sure to get one from a reputable climbing vendor. If their are no breaking strength or load weight ratings in the description or spec's. then don't buy that Carabiner! Buyer beware for your own safety.
+creamysbrianna He's talking about the gate style look at 6:51 he explains what 'key' means. It's the design of the nose of the carabiner.
Great info - thanks!