Motorcycle Bluetooth Systems vs. Earbuds | Versus
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Full motorcycle bluetooth communication system or your standard tech earbuds? That is the question. One comes with a host of moto-specific functions and features, while the other is something most of us have laying around the house. Whether or not a motorcycle bluetooth communicator system is worth your while all depends on what that while might entail. In this episode, Brandon highlights the reasons riders might favor a comms unit built for a motorcycle helmet vs. a standard set of earbuds.
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:08 Fitment & Comfort
3:15 Wind Noise
4:42 Versatility or Functionality
6:23 Conclusion - Auta a dopravní prostředky
LOL @ the chores scene of this video. Well played RevZilla. Well played. Here's my upvote.
I would recommend Shure SE215 IEM’s with the foam tips as it helps stop wind noise and is comfortable under a helmet.
I ride with the bluetooth version for the last 3 years. Love them.
+1 I connect the 3.5mm jack into my Sena/Cardo units. Honestly the Shure SE215's + a Cardo/Sena is fantastic. You get some hearing protection while also being able to listen to your buddies and music.
The only downside I've found with the Sena and Cardo units is that they don't seem to have any ground loop isolation. Without a ground loop isolator in between my SE215s and the comms unit I get a consistent buzzing at a low volume which is fatiguing over a whole day.
@@PRodent Could you add a ground loop isolator in line? So, headphones->Ground loop isolator->Sena/Cardo?
Also, I had no idea that some of those units had 3.5mm jacks. That really makes me want to upgrade from my cheapo T-Com unit.
@@skalover98 Yeah I've got a ground loop isolator connected in the way you describe. Both Cardo and Senas have 3.5mm jacks.
@@PRodent Ah, gotcha. And that's really good to know about the sena/cardos. I like supporting companies that keep the 3.5mm! :)
I've been riding motorcycles over 50 years, and I ride motorcycles so I don't have to communicate with anyone and never have to take a phone call, but that's just me
Ah...i see you are a man of culture as well
I'm 100 percent with you, i just like music :p
I also agree, but at the same time, we all have loved ones, and keeping in touch with them is made simple with bluetooth helmet tech. I personally like to have the option if my loved ones need me or have an emergency.
I used to use a comm system so I could communicate with my now ex wife when we were both riding. I could listen to music, and we could communicate when we needed break, or fuel, or whatever without having to resort to semaphore and the frustrations it brings.
But, maybe you just ride alone. That's fine too.
@@JoshuaTootell Never thought I'll divorce a rider wife if I could find one
Worth mentioning that many jurisdictions have laws against riding/driving with ear buds.
totally, legally that's why Bluetooth/mesh headsets are still legal since there is separation between the speaker and ear
Earbuds and any sort of headphones are illegal to ride with in WA yet helmet Bluetooth systems and earplugs are perfectly legal.
Even if their use is legal in your area you may want to reconsider the use of ear buds. I personally like to have the ability to hear traffic around me. Just the other day I ended up taking a right turn faster than I had planned because I heard screeching tires behind me. An oblivious driver _(oblivious to me, my bike, my turn signals, and my brake light)_ changed into the same lane I was in just as I was slowing for the turn so I had no idea that driver was behind me. If I had ear buds in at the time I'm pretty certain I would have ended up in surgery that night to remove the front bumper of a minivan from my colon.
Anyway... I don't mean to preach, but figured I'd just throw out something to consider.
@@VladyslavNovikovthepirate Earplugs are not.
You can get earbuds that allow ambient sound thru. If I turn my Samsungs up to extra high I can actually hear better than without them. I usually run them on high because on extra high I can hear to much.
Best of both worlds - I’ve just bought a Motikom unit and it’s pretty awesome, but taking some getting used to in terms of taking on/off or in/out all the time.
I’ve been using a JLab Bluetooth with noise canceling. I chose the one that goes around my neck and I can easily access the controls.
Years ago, I would ride full face with a pair of cheap earbuds because they would always short out after a while. When I finally stepped into the Bluetooth comms world, I was initially concerned about audio quality but ease of use has been worth the sacrifice of some audio quality at speed and no wires.
Wireless bluetooth Samsung Galaxy Buds+, $50 for Amazon renewed ones. 11 hours run time. Can recharge another 11 hours in the included case. Added 3 layer ear gels trimmed to 2 layer to better fit the charger. Protects ears and is better than blasting your ears with not protection when you install helmet communicators. The Galaxy Buds+ offer ambient outside noise levels that can also be turned off for better ear isolation while riding. Along with ear gels, they have different sized wings that help stay in your ears better as well. Can turn off touch features so you don't have accidental button hits, listen to music, navigation, pull over phone calls but, not a rider to rider communicator. Work with Apple or Android phones. I've seen too many Sena products break. Cardo seems better made from what I've seen but, you're going to pay for it. Wish Cardo made a version with an action camera built in and maybe bluetooth earbuds instead of blasting your ears with speakers and no wind protection. The problem I've experienced with wired ear buds is that the wind noise goes right up the wires like a stethoscope and carries noise directly into your ears.
yep, running Buds+ with foam tips
@@eFasser I might try some foam tips instead of the 3 layer silicon for better ear isolation. Years of wind noise on 17 bikes in my riding career is giving me real tinnitus.
I run a Sena 10c Pro with the earphones adapter and phonepods instead of the speakers that came with the unit. I don't have to charge them and because you have to organize the cord to put it away after use, it makes it harder to lose or misplace. Benefits of earplugs, earbuds, and comms. I've found that a little discipline on my part leads to more convenience than any product or manufacturer can provide....
Was just thinking about this topic. Thanks for confirming, that you can still use a bluetooth system while wearing ear plugs to preserve your ears.
i have always used earphones for riding, typically because i cant afford a bluetooth unit here in Malaysia, even a Cardo FreeCom 1 costs almost RM600 here whilst a simple decent earphone costs only up to RM200.
But of course i wear a modular mostly but still earphones for me is a 3 in 1 kinda deal since it seals in your ear so it blocks out noises, u get clearer audio, and its cheaper ( at least at my place).
Same here. Only during calls on the move that the earbuds are lacking.
I use 2 set ups depending on what I'm going. For touring I used senhiser earbuds connected to my cardo freecom. They block out the wind meaning I can keep the volume down and are all day comfortable, the only downside is they can pull out if you're not careful. Because of this I use earpeace ear plugs (drummer ear plugs with a tiny hole in the middle) with the standard cardo helmet speakers when I'm on and off the bike. The earbuds are better sound quality but the speaker and ear plug setup is less of a faff.
Interesting that you guys skipped over one of the OBVIOUS perks of using the Bluetooth Communicators is that you can't really talk with your group on your phone.
You can use WhatsApp/FB Messenger/Facetime to make a group call. You use up your cellphone data though.
Skull candy ear buds work well as they go down into the ear canal and are cheap. I use them with a Bluetooth sena system to get the best clarity.
Exactly what I do and recommend. Passive noise reduction, sound isolation, so I'm not cranking up the volume to hear over anything, and navigation/music comes through crystal clear via my Sena.
which model are u using?
@@megapet777 the basic ones from walmart
If they're cheap enough I'll have to give them a shot. My current MPow bluetooth earbuds simply will not stay seated in my ears when I don my helmet, and always get knocked out when I take the helmet off. I had the Shure se215's years ago but I think i remember them being not too comfortable after a while - the helmet would push them into my ears too hard. And then they broke sooo that was good money down the drain.
As for me here in the Philippines
Traffic is very typical and slow riding is essential
As for me for just city riding and just running around 30 to 40kph I really like to use wired earbuds while riding it eliminates the wind noise given to the certain speed and playing music at the same time also it keeps me confident that I'm not worrying if the battery goes off because it attach on my phone (but different scenario if my phone goes off tho 😂)
I've always preferred wired earbuds for the simple fact there's no chance of a battery dieing as well as the bluetooth earbuds are bulkier and usually have a button on the outside and the helmet will push it in and mess up ur music or talking. I keep an extra pair in my saddlebag. I love listening to lincoln Durham or godsmack while riding 🤟
no chance of battery dying? what about the thing you plug your headphones into :)
Running Samsung Galaxy Buds+. They have 11 hours run time and can charge another 11 hours using the case they come with. I installed a USB phone charger and stick the phone to my flat handle bar mount and phone case using industrial Velcro. Been using it for years and cost effective.
@@mishimposble my cardo packtalk slim - I can use it 2 days. Literally phone will die faster than my intercom. I prefer powerbank because I can carry my phone while charging.
@@sgtace I have a phone charger on the bike and a lithium ion battery jumper I can charge the phone with multiple times on the bike. I can also charge the jump starter, ear buds case, and phone on the bike. I can protect my ears with the ear buds instead of blasting my ears with loud speakers and wind noise. The only drawback I have is I can only handle phone calls instead of having a communicator pack but, seems like everyone has something different, newer or older that may not work.
Damn, I was actually searching today what to use, intercom or earphone
I've used buds in the past but they don't dampen wind noise enough (most of them). These days I use foam earplugs along with a bluetooth unit... only issue is that you need a LOT of volume to get through the foam (and unless you pay extra, Sena's base speakers are kindof crap... Cardo speakers work better). The best of both worlds solution was plugfones... they are earplugs (foam or latex) with integrated speaker. I could plug those into my headset and get both full hearing protection AND clear audio. Only downside of those is that the foam plug part (most comfortable for me) wore out and so I had to buy packs of foam replacements regularly.
If you aren't communicating with other riders, IEMs/CIEMs for sure. I appreciate that the Packtalk audio is pretty good for music, but only if I'm not on the bike and not wearing plugs. It's a compromise.
There are a lot of off brand name blue tooth systems available. Many of them work very well, especially if your mainly listening to music and taking a phone call. Distance of bike to bike communication suffers a little. I love my Cardo systems but I do have a couple way cheaper systems on other helmets that work just as well. Maybe even more simple to operate at a fraction of the price.
Am I the only person who has found that my ears do not align with the speaker pockets in my helmet? I first discovered this with a Shoei Neotec 1 and now am finding this with an Arai Signet-X. In both cases the speakers need to come forward of the speaker pockets. On the Neotec, I cut out some of the cheek pads foam and liner and the speaker sits very happy there. The Neotec doesn’t fit my long oval head very well and was getting old so I have moved to the Arai and I am working on it. It is hard to figure out where my ears are in a properly fitting helmet.
Noise cancelling is unbeatable. Ik some speaker systems can get really loud, but then you have the engine sound and the loud music competing with themselves and doubling the noise output. ANC earbuds for me are amazing while riding.
One more point... Check local laws . Here in Quebec. it is illegal to ride with earbuds. But it's perfectly ok to use mounted systems. I use Freecom 4 with plugs.
Ifyou are concerned with not hearing your surroundings, wear plags designed for musicians. they cutoutthe most harmful frequencies, while not blocking out too much of the music, or ambient sounds.
Are you allowed to wear ear plugs? If not that is really stupid, as wind noise can be very severe and cause a lot of damage. I don't ride without them
I did 2 long (3000+ kms) road trips using a pair of Sony earphones and ended up ruining my hearing a bit because I had to play them loud enough to hear over the wind noise (which was also very loud in my old Bell Qualifier helment). So I have a decent case of tinnitus these days. I then tried using JBL speakers in my helmet while using Alpine motorcycle earplugs (I won't ride without earplugs these days), but the sound clarity wasn't great (muffled) and I had to play my music at 100% volume to hear it anywhere near properly. I was looking into custom moulded earphones but they were prohibitively expensive, but ended up finding an Australian company (earjobs) that made safety earphones (Plugfones) for noise protection while giving me the ability to listen to music etc. They're not *the best* sounding earphones, but for $30-odd they definitely work for sound/wind protection while letting me ride with music. I will give one word of warning: if you get a bit over-zealous with putting them in you'll feel like you're about to pierce your brain. LOL
Com unit all day long. Convince and practical application is what makes them a clear choice for me. I generally don’t listen to the music when I’m on my bike only to communicate with other riders.
A caveat I would add to the noise reduction, You will almost certainly get better isolation with full earplugs than with earphones, but it's a bit unfair to say earbuds won't do anything for noise reduction while using two of the worst isolating earbuds for that comparison. Depends on your ear and helmet fitment, but most IEM style earphones should fit well in a helmet and seal fine. Others have mentioned the Shure SE215, which is a great option, and you can get various BT modules to connect to it as well.
A caveat in the other direction; unless you're using a custom cable or modifying the BT adapter on a MMCX-equipped set, you're probably not using earbuds for a microphone. It's doable, but if you can do it then you're probably not watching this video, so knock yourself out.
Not if you use memory foam ear buds
i ride with a pair of 1st gen galaxy buds, theyre pretty good at getting rid of wind noise and directions/music is very clear, only downside is that you gotta fish them out before you take off the helmet or theyll pop out every time and taking calls on them is not an option in ideal conditions so with wind and a helmet... just no.
upside is theyre "old" (2019) so are coming down in price quite substantially, if you can pick up a cheap pair theyre well worth it
Earbuds under my helmet hurts my ears like crazy. Can’t do it. But i didn’t know they made comm units with video cams in them! I will have to look into those. 👍
i have tried them all... the Beats Fit Pros work the best....they stay in your ears and keep the seal tight....FTW
I have been using a sub $70 bluetooth unit for the past 8 years and it works flawlessly. It's been installed in two helmets so far.
You got a link? Or just a brand name?
Really depends on what ear buds your using. I've been using the skull candy methods ones and works with me and reduce the wind noise.
You forgot to mention "Foneplugs" speaker/earplug combo. They go in, and they stay in. Block the wind noise, and only pure music is heard.
versatility and affordability. i am not a moto vlogger anyways. but it would be very cool if i have a Bluetooth communication system over 3-dollar Bluetooth earbuds
Customised fitted Ear buds could be the best solution. Not cheep but manufacturers are around at a range of prices, they provide excellent noise protection and quite a few Bluetooth systems can come with sockets you can plug your wired Ear buds into. Not cheep but very effective.
I’ll just wear my helmet all the time and change my name legally to “Stig”
I do not understand revzilla to make a sample of the sound when you do earbuds in year ear and using a helmet how it sounds how much noise it blocks.
The obvious solution is to use a bluetooth communicator paired with a set of earbuds. You get the versatility of both. If you pick a quality set of earbuds, you can get noise cancelling as well as crystal clear audio from your bluetooth unit.
If you like cycling, I recommend you to try Naenka runner pro bone conduction headphones.
You didn't comment on how effective the AirPods pros are at blocking out wind and engine noise with the noise cancellation. That was the main thing I was here for lol.
JLab JBuds Pro are Bluetooth, cheap, loud, comfortable, come in lots of colors, and last for 6 hours!
If you don't need to talk to anyone, these are a great option. I keep 2 set on the bike, so I'm never without audio. Also at 20 bucks a set, I'm not so mad at myself when I lose/break a set.
just got a xlite 803rs, sadly it does not have pre cut speaker slot and new helmet is bit tight on the ears. gonna have a look at the shure 215 bt2 and see if it works.
I have an Arai Defiant-X helmet (full face) and I wear the standard foam roll up ear plugs every time I ride. I have an Android Galaxy cell phone. I am interested in obtaining a Bluetooth communicator to speak to my buddies when we go riding on the street/highway.. Which model do you recommend that I can still wear my earplugs and hear/speak to my crew? Not sure what would be best for mounting and don’t care if it has to be externally mounted or internally. In my state, we are not permitted to ride with earphones in both ears at the same time, but one only. Thank you.
What should you with if you only care about sound quality?
I use Jabra wireless noise cancelling buds with a full face helmet. Works great
Noise isolating earbuds exist.
I got an intercom because my helmets got the cutouts. Still, after 1 hour of riding it hurts like crazy.
It's funny seeing this comparison taking into account that in my country is explicitly prohibited to drive a vehicle (including bicycles) while using any kind of earphones
There are also combination earplug/speaker bluetooth devices.
What brand or type of ear plugs do you recommend.?
One really important aspect that I'm surprised wasn't addressed in the video, legality. In many states it's illegal to ride with earbuds in but BT units are allowed. It's pretty BS on a functional level one is "distracted driving" while the other magically isn't. But it's something to be aware of before you go jamming with your headphones in.
Have you tried using AirPods Pro with noise canceling on to reduce wind noise? Seems like it could be an earplugs and comms system in one.
I have tried, noise cancelling does not work well at highway speeds due to the wind noise, as you may know the airpods pro cancels noise by producing a different frequency, but due to the wind noise at high speed, the airpod struggles to give you an effective cancellation. Comms does not work as well,the speaker is not effective when you have your helmet on, screaming doesnt help either
It works great for me. You have to get the fitment right using the different silocone tips it comes with. You know the fitment is good when you can barely hear your bike idling.
I love my Airpod Pros, with foam tips...when they work. I have found that for some reason when I put them in and get my helmet on, they no longer recognize that they are in my ear. My phone connects to them, but they will not play music and the digital noise cancellation no longer works. Luckily I also have a cheapo intercom (T-Com) that I use with earplugs, but it doesn't really get loud enough (and yes, I have tried moving the speakers a ton! :)). Seems like I can't win here.
They crackle over 45mikes per hours, unusable
I've had "Bose Quiet Comfort 20" for a couple of years now, and love them.. They are noise cancelling earphones with the external noise cancelling mic/s mounted on the ear pieces themselves. I have also moved from Sena 30K to Cardo Backtalk Bold since the audio quality is significantly better on the new unit.
Can other people hear you talk if the mic/s are mounted on the ear pieces when wearing a helmet?
@@jadonx Its just the noise cancelling microphones that are mounted on the outside of the earpieces, so the only thing they do is to get rid of background noise. They can easily be turned off with a switch along the cable if you want.
You can talk to others while wearing them either directly or via the Sena/Cardo microphone that is mounted separately. I’d suggest having the noise cancelling turned off if you speak to someone directly (like when at a standstill with the visor open) otherwise their voices may be filtered out/difficult to hear.
Ear plug speakers used with helmet mounted Bluetooth device works perfect.
I use a full face helmet. I would like room for both speakers and headphones. My Sena 20S has a separate headphones jack. When headphones are plugged in, it plays through the headphones. Otherwise it automatically plays through the attached speakers. Normally, the wind noise at highway speeds makes speakers difficult to hear, so I prefer the earbuds because they block the wind noise while I can still hear my music/conversation. However, it takes me a while to get everything ready, so when I am riding with my friends I would like the option to just throw my helmet on and still be able to hear my system. The problem is that they don't really make low profile earbuds, and the helmet can push on them painfully. With speakers installed, there is no room for earbuds. When I get a new helmet, deep ear pockets will be part of the criteria I will look for.
The main question for me is - is there a way to talk with a passenger sitting behind if he has an iPhone and EarPods pro? Without calling each other because calls may be impossible in some areas? Some kind of intercom through Bluetooth or Wi-Fi? Anyone knows that???
I got a pair of $20 motorcycle bt headphones which are the best of both worlds
Disagree on the assessment of earbuds not blacking wind noise...if you pick the right ones. Those that I use meet OSHA requirement for a 26 dB reduction. Now, almost all the other points are valid. In my case, I just want GPS quidance and occasional musice so the earbuds win...
Where can I get that shirt?
Only issue I have with earphones is that I cannot communicate with my pillion. If that gets solved for me, I'm never going back to Bluetooth intercoms
Just bought the cheapo Lexin et com. Does what they are supposed to do, audio quality isn’t an issue either. No need to spend 230 bucks for Sean or cardo 🙈
Earbuds with foam tips or Spinfits will reduce a lot of wind noise.
Some states have laws against riding with both or any earbuds in. Beware of this when getting pulled over by the cops.
I use a cardo packtalk and plugphones. Best of both worlds.
I still use the wired headphones lol. I just dont like the pressure point on those speakers even if they have a cut out
Same here mate, I can't take the pressure on my ears and I find the speakers not loud enough
Me watching this on my knockoff beats bought from aliexpress which gives great sound, cancels wind noise and best of all perfectly working mic. All for just 12 USD
I work as an EMT, and i had a dude crash while wearing airpods. He couldnt hear a thing i said to him because his airpods were in his ears blasting music. Id he was wearing a sena or another device id be able to remove it or shut it off from outside the helmet
He lived, but he probably would have heard the cars behind him if he didnt wear the airpods.
Shure Aonic Free?
Noise cancellation. I found not a single Bluetooth system with that feature, though basic 100$ Huawei earplugs cancels wind noise greatly. I wish they do Bluetooth systems with it
Huawei freebuds pro?
@@rmusic7555 I guess so, don't remember already. Switched to AirPods pro for that purpose - they are smaller and it's easier to put on and off the helmet with them
You forgot to go over battery life between the two.
Bluetooth earbuds have 4-5 hours of use until they need recharge.
Bluetooth communication units have 8-10 hours until recharge.
Any earbuds that fit and create a seal would be better than any bluetooth system for wind noise. Most earbuds nowadays have built in noise cancelation making it even better. Dont even need to have the volume up on my airpod pros to hear directions and music at 90+mph.
I’ve found one thing that really helps earbuds stay in is to use a skullcap, balaclava or even a gaitor pulled around your head. I ride 45 minute to school and it’s super comfortable and it’s good sound quality. Also contrary to what the video said, I use a cheap $10 pair of earbuds that have the soft rubber tips similar to earplugs and they significantly reduce wind noise. Now it may not be a certified amount, but it definitely helps a lot.
I'd personally choose wired earphones with physical buttons for easy control. Or bluetooth neckband earphones with physical buttons.
Galaxy buds make the best sound freaking rip your ears coming out of my airflight got the cardo* and the speakers are just loud enough to hear music at 70 around towns good just really lack the bass we all really want
I just think that there’s an element of danger in riding a motorcycle and not being able to hear your environment. Noise cancelling will do that. I’d say you shouldn’t eliminate environment noise and therefore you just have to sacrifice sound quality. Maybe this is just me because I ride in a pretty chaotic environment where traffic lights are mere suggestions to control traffic.
True. Long stretches of highway is where reducing wind noise is necessary to prevent hearing loss. But in the city environment I have used noise cancellation and it made me feel uneasy in traffic.
I literally have never had an issue with it. ANC on earbuds is not strong enough to silence a car horn. You will still hear the horn. And besides horns im not sure what else you would need to hear in traffic? If you are checking your mirrors often there is literally no difference
AirPods Pro with foam tips. Transparency mode on street, noise canceling on highway
This is exactly what I do too, except I have a cheap pair of Earfun earbuds that have ANC and were only $60.
@@bhouse92101 it started out As necessity for me. My com died and I had a ride home and needed gps. It’s all I use now.
Helmet without a bonnet is pretty gross and your earplugs might fall.
Foam tips so you can have both the isolation of wind noise and plugs direct quality.
Check your state laws in regards to headphones. It is illegal in most states to operate a vehicle while wearing headphones or earbuds.
I don't own a car and I ride 6 days a week, so my Cardo was definitely worth it.
I for one just can't listen to music while riding. I actually don't listen to music even when jogging or cycling. My ear buds are noise canceling and when I have them on I feel like I'm losing 30% of my awareness of my surroundings, and while riding
I need to be 100% aware of what's going on around me. Maybe I'm just weird.
I've got once stuck foam eartips of my headphones in ears. Wasn't pleasant. My friend had one earbud go out of helmet during ride and cut it off with wheel. No bueno, wire inside your moving parts of motocycle is not great.
Battery for my cardo slim can work for full day. I forgot last time to charge it over night on 2 day trip. All I had to do was plug it into powerbank that I got with me everyday so no problem here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Same could happen with usb cable as with headphones above but it "locks" better than dangling headphones.
Also intercom prices are scam, for real why is this so expensive.
Just buy both
people always say wear earplugs to protect your ears from damage from the wind noise. so how do people listen to music? or do yall not wear earplugs
Best option I've found. Packtalk slim with a set of custom made plugs with hidef dual voice coil drivers embedded in them. Same as the car racing drivers use. No speakers and perfect sound and protection.
Ditto here. I like how Cardo uses a regular headphone jack that I can plug in my cushion ear plug with drivers. All the advantages of voice control, external buttons, with no sacrifice of sound or ear protection.
Why didn't you guys compare the motorcycle designed EAOS-SlimBuds?..They are designed for riders with noise canceling and they won't rip out of your ears when removing your helmet..lol
eyy, warriors represent!!?
Glitchy transitions are not cool. So distracting.
Agreed
@@WHITELIONNYC agreed but glitchy transitions aren’t absolutely necessary
Soundpeats truewings cost $60 only
unless... BONE CONDUCTION WITH EARPLUGS... For ultimate sound quality, ear safety and comfort. NOTHING comes close
Earbuds on wheel is Illegal😂, so only Bluetooth Systems, got it from aliexpress for 60usd, so far close to 4 years with commuting everyday, rain, winter, no problem at all !!
The issue with motorcycles Bluetooth systems is they are committed to the helmet. I prefer earbuds because they can be used separately as well, without the helmet
OTOH, I prefer a "complete" in-helmet Bluetooth setup, including speakers: when I grab my helmet and get set to ride there's no fussing with getting separate earbuds to fit properly, and no wandering wires - just put it on and go. (I have Cardo's Packtalk Slim.) When I'm off the bike, I have my Samsung Galaxy Buds+ to use.
If the riding time is long, it's Bluetooth, and if the riding time is short, it's better to use Buds.
Theres a mask with velcro i just tuck my headphones mic near my my mouth and the mask press the buds in my ears and hear my music up to 170ish on my zx14
One negative not mentioned w/ the blue tooth system is they are bulky, as well as ridiculously ugly.
Your selection of earbuds is horrendous and completely off the mark for motorcyclists (except for half shell or no helmet riders). They have too much of the body outside the ear so that a helmet will just rip them out when you put it on. Try looking at "IN EAR" not "kinda in ear" buds. Two examples are the Plugfones Liberate 2.0 and Guardian for a wired option. This type of earbud fits almost completely inside the ear canal and the electronics are not at the earbud which makes them small enough to slide your full face helmet on without pulling them out. Also, One of the good points about the Cardo units is that they have a standard 1/8" jack which gives you the option of plugging in the in-helmet speakers or a set of wired earbuds.
If you have multiple helmets…
Ok this dude lost me on the wind noise
Jeez, kinda early
Alot of the problems would be solved if you just dont wear a half helmet. They are basically useless anyways
Wow. This has to be the most biased review I have ever seen.