Mei is a victim of people think losing a fight = being trash when people dont consider that she fought two powerhouses and nobody else. Its like when people clowned Kankuro for losing to Sasori(depsite him having 0 info and fighting the guy who made all his pupputs), who is Super Kankuro Great vid.
I am absolutely loving the vids man this community of ours feels small and niche at times but the constant material with the equal love keep it up man ❤
Is it me, or have Naruto videos been going crazy for the last few days. Like..... Virhtue, SageOTC, LightningSnow, Six, Loko, TG. I've had like 2-3 Naruto videos to watch every day. Y'all had to plan this at the Kage Summit😭
I mean someone has to scale Itachi properly lol 😂. Oh also we are acting like he didn’t say he most likely will die to Ohnoki, which is quite possible.
Most people don’t know this but in the novel sasuke Jinraiden which takes place after sasuke learns the truth about itatchi and before the moment on the rock he does perform a tsukuyomi level genjutsu where he tortures someone for 72 hours but only a few seconds pass in the real world but it does take a lot out of him
@@Virhtue I can understand that but I personally don’t have any problems with it we see obito do a koto like genjutsu on yagura and sasuke says it takes a lot out of him and he needs to get use to the ms I think it’s possible for those with the ms to use things like koto and tsukyomi or something very similar to them but that’s just something I think I don’t blame you if you think differently about it
@@Robbieuchiha That was not really like Kotoamatsukami when it was total brainwashing instead of a phantom suggestion. Tsukuyomi can do much more than seventy-two hours, regardless.
@@Robbieuchiha Those are induvidual MS abilities. Just having the MS shouldn't give one access to them. That would be like saying anyone with and MS has access to Kamui.
I subscribe to the games as supplementary canon, and I really appreciate you including supplementary material to support certain points you make. Anyways, fire video dude 🔥🖤🔥🖤 Keep it up!
Great video love the Shisui respect people downplay him too much his very strong i agree with pretty much everything you said with his scaling and I do think his susanoo is cannon for all the reasons you mentioned plus lore wise it makes since it’s said to unlock it you have to have the ms in both eyes which he does
@@pkj2148 well that’s what you’ve seen all I’ve seen on CZcams twitter tik tok instagram and all over the place is how trash and weak Shisui is and he’s weaker than danzo and all other types of nonsense
@@poodie3887 I guess we frequent different places then. All I ever see is how Shisui is the most talented Uchiha and that Danzo had to cheat to beat him.
Im glad you pointed out virthue how fast the susanoo appears because thats the only way sasuke survived the raikage 😂 and its the same way itachi and shisui would survive certainly not by travel speed
Honestly, always wanted to see Shisui be more active. He doesn't do much in the story but has such a high impact on Itachi, who's pretty pivotal to the story. Not only that, but Shisui is super powerful given that he should be above Fugaku, a Kage candidate.
I’m not sold on you scaling kid itachi and shisui up to sasuke/ danzo that fought sasuke in terms of stats. The idea that the raikage wouldn’t be a blitz tier or two above them seems like a far cry to me. The raikage basically blitzed sasuke pretty easily. The only reason sasuke wasn’t dead is because he actually had a defense capable of letting him survive blows from the raikage. I’m not sure they would have that. Hell without flame control he would have died even with the susanno right? I know you had a section about if shisui could or couldn’t use susanno but outside of susanno they wouldn’t be able to live his attacks that sasuke wasn’t able to really dodge. It’s already shaky to place them in the same speed tier as that version of sasuke let alone the raikage. I do believe without the susanno he blitzes and one shots both. Of course love the video though.
well there are 3 versions of the danzo fight for shisui, in the itachi midnight novel, which is the only accepted canon version, shisui gets poisoned by an aburame, one eye ripped out by danzo while he was confused, and then when he figures out whats going on he actually perception blitzes danzo(he body flickered away and he always did so with a right handed tiger sign, but danzo couldnt see this sign or any movement and was confused as to what happened) obviously danzo could also react to sasuke in the summit to shisui scales above that sasuke, the same one that was superior to the v1 raikage and reacted to the v2
@@AidenB1010 the problem with this scaling chain is that it assumes that Donzo is the same at both points. This is an issue because he can't have an arm full of sharrengun pre-massacre.
Seems dubious Obito would even grant Itachi and Shisui Zetsu when they already have fairly progressed eyes when he did so for Sasuke ofr that purpose. It is never stated Itachi jumped to the top of the AnBu after progressing to the massacre. He only fights one AnBu, whom he had a special means of paralyzing. Obito being surprised that Itachi did not joke does not really prove his power when Obito is goading him the entire time as a pawn. As he tells Yashiro, it was a decision on a whim. Shisui said Itachi would surpass him after he died, so he is almost certainly weaker than massacre Itachi who is stronger still. That anime guide used for Itachi also says Fugaku is the strongest in the clan, so not the best scaling for Itachi. At some point Itachi started tuning out the murder he was inflicting, so the progression of tragedy would be capped. Body Flicker does not always require a hand seal. Both Sasuke and A have used Body Flicker in combat without any preparation. Shisui did not really participate in the Third Shinobi World War. He awakened his Mangekyō shortly after it concluded and his reputation further grew from there. According to the official Naruto website, much of his fame came due to the vacuum caused by the absence of the Sannin and Minato after the latter's death, suggesting he is not really competing against them at that point (in addition to Uchiha bias). Danzō might not have had his Sharingan arm by the time Shisui died. If he did, they would be sealed in his gauntlet and likely not taking his chakra (Kakashi's Sharingan is not draining him until he uncovers the hitai-ate). Even if they were, it would be mostly mitigated by his Hashirama cells, so when they are not released, his stamina would likely be about the same. Shisui is two levels below Massacre Itachi, whilst Sasuke is nearing Akatsuki Itachi, so arguable that Shisui is actually below him by that point. Darui being named one of the commanders of the Allied Shinobi Forces suggests he is not only one of the top Kumo-nin, but one of the top shinobi in the entire world. Even Kage like Gaara (and equivalents such as Mifune) were considered for a command position, and despite that Darui still earned a spot, the same relative position as the strongest in Konoha, Kakashi. Itachi against B, Naruto, and Kabuto is beyond the scope of the version of this video. Sasuke can also use Body Flicker as shown against Tobi and Deidara, yet he was unable to get out of the way of A's full speed, so dubious if Shisui's would do any better. Itachi, likewise, might not have a Susanoo by this point. Madara's genjutsu is arguably superior to Itachi's, given Madara can control Kurama, yet Gerotora and Jiraiya think no one alive could do so to their knowledge, and they were unaware of Itachi's degradation. Id est, unquantifiable if either of their genjutsu would work. That Sasuke never tried genjutsu on A like he did on B would indicate A's assertion might have been valid up to Sasuke's caliber. Shisui did not shoot lasers. Those were chakra senbon. Seems more like that Chōjūrō was trying to isolate Sasuke rather than break the Susanoo, which Itachi might not even have. Yagura's Version 2 being burned is inconsistent with Naruto being able to block a much stronger Amaterasu with a fatigued Version 1. That entire interaction also does not fit canonically given Yagura should have already been under Obito's control. Shisui might not have the stamina to outlast Danzō given his Susanoo immediately collapsed after he used it once in the game, and Sasuke is generally noted to have outrageous amounts of stamina, and was still brought to his limit, so it is likely he would begin to fatigue and Danzō would have the edge, doubly so when Karin would not be able to heal him, so he would enter the fight already partially fatigued, triply so if Obito does not help him against the Root guards.
@@Virhtue there is a difference between being “generous” and making very very big leaps and using statements that were literally contradicted in the same material. Lmao no need to get so pressed 👴
Commenting again to boost the Algorithm, but Nagato/Six Paths of Pain vs 5KS would be fun Seth, Six, and Swagkage did it, but it'd be dope to see you do it with Thunder Bark and SatoriYT. Woof God and SatoriYT just cus they're GOATed
I think the rikage underestimates itachi and shisui’s MS genjutsu and falls victim to it. Even just a subtle one into tsykinomi would end him. And knowing itachi, he’s getting him in one the moment the rikage looks at him.
Ngl think itachi slaughters oniki , especially with itachi being above hiruzen and orochimaru at no point in part one does he even think he can beat Itachi with the three Tomoi even with all the resources he has throughout part one which is actually crazy
Yashiro isn’t a bias He was stated to be controlled by obito who isn’t bias He never wanted orochimaru as kage you lied And he is more mad at the unfair treatment of fugaku Not because he didn’t become kage Novel proof🔽 “Village officials don’t want the Uchihaclan standing on center stage. They said nothing in the village about all the work you did during the Great War, Lord Fugaku. Because of that, it was Minato” Proof of uchiha mistreatment🔽 “Second Hokage established the Military Police Force." "The Military Police Force was created to drive the Uchiha clan away from the central functions of the village." "Mm." Sighing, Hiruzen packed tobacco into his pipe for the third time.”
I could see itachi stopping the particle style by using tsyuki to fry his brain before he fully uses it notice it was a time before the justu went off even before obito grabbed sasuke so it’d be a close call but itachi & shisui goin back home to leaf 😎 high difficulty but nevertheless another victory 4 the uchiha
Man honestly my thoughts on the fights in Naruto is the same as usual; the winner is whoever incapacitates to a reasonably irreversible state without complex interference or people being brought in as support, or straight up ends the Life of whoever the combatant is… Regardless of who the characters are, and our feelings about them, I can just as easily write a scenario to make it FEEL narratively reasonable for early-mid shippuden Sákūrà defeats ītáchí! Realistically with full capabilities & all character arc motivations and knowledge removed & the other just treated as “oh no a potential threat that Appears to be a kid from Konoha… I gotta do em in or at least make it Appear that I have… so I guess I’ll use Tsukuyomi in combination with a complex sharing of different conditional experiences as I felt or even show what my brother experienced & explain that She would Probably not have lived beyond 8 or whatever Sásūké’s age was because if I didn’t take out the clan the Entire village would’ve… oh let me show multiple variants of my BigBrain self-TimeTranscendent Gènjūtsū I cast on myself from within my own imagination to experience lowest to strongest variants of all means of attack from different nations’ groups… & then explanation of something about some būshídō & service to the appointed & actively serving hōkágé & how I Had to Play along with Dánzō… oh & memory of how impressed I am with even Child Shīsüí using whichever variant of Kōtō Àmátsūkámí to reprogramme even a hypothetical version of herself which we Also make stronger & more capable than her normal self by some collaborative double Gènjūtsū shenanigans… oh wow it seems she Really loves my brother but what if- … … …she-… She would Still Love my brother Even if he decided to murder her multiple additional times because even after resigning herself to killing him to protect others with intent of Dying With him She was still incapable of striking him… I forgot what tears naturally generated felt like since the last 40 times I had liquid coming out of my eyeballs it was either blood and or tears generated whilst trying to absorb these highly questionable medicines that require intraoccular absorption… but… maybe he won’t die a virgin… I wish I had gotten to sleep with my wife in Real Life instead of only having a whole family & years of marriage which was a hallucination I decided to live through just to prevent anything worse… so nice that I get to serve as Shīsüí’s shadow Kágé before Sásūké became a hero helping his friends be the top squad of their generation… so of course me and Ízūmí’s kids all look up to everyone that I love who all seem to act like Me and my morals controlling them as a videogame & Dánzō’s evil is of course what leads to Hírūzèn asking for Shīsüí & me to lead the village after heroically stopping the terrible coup which… oh let’s say the shadowy Mádàrà guy that actually let’s say he just used whatever complex forbidden Jūtsū that I can take some liberties with… oh she’s gonna love this how it’s Actually Her that reminds me of something that helps us Save Everyone & so Shīsüí asks Me to be hōkágé so He can be the new Master for… Sásūké because… oh of course she gets a pretty dress of her dreams & whatever shopping fantasies… oh she just wants more of us eating our favourite snacks where every time we both Look like our child versions to eachother but all romance triggers her seeing some imaginary ultimately sexy versions of us & oh man I’m getting distracted just Recalling what should’ve been the Only Time I ever needed to use the power of Tsukuyomi…” Or Sákūrà could just say “lady Tsūnádé did train me for this… because I love the man with your brother’s eyes…
Man now I’m wondering if there isn’t some complex variant of èdō tènséī used in crowclone jūtsū with some Shárīngán Yáng release brain remapping for specific effects which can do thing like sealing and unsealing the crowclone with whatever powers learning to build up enough chákrà for use of a complex MS ability which reprogramming release and storage of… if only I used èdō tènséī to bring back Shīsüí but I only know bits of informations from which I can vaguely reverse engineer… since I’m the real Reincarnate of Mádàrà who never killed & stole brothers eye Because they loved their little brother more than themselves like a more ideal Big Brother figure that everyone probably wishes they were this brilliant in analysis & Kágé+ level decisionmaking skills… as the goodguy Mádàrà on the side of the village more than his clan when the clan is beefing with the village as Mádàrà anticipated but probably in quicker worse ways than actually happen… but man is this potentially making Ízūnà the Actual Īndrà reincarnate? Cause then Mádàrà is more of the failed brother Ásūrà but if he had different abilities to all of them… but then we’d have anticipated inferno style techniques & tsukuyomi… I guess Mádārà has no need for attempting Ÿátà Mirror or anything as tactically sound as complex sealing Jūtsū uses which aren’t simply about some kind of violent power flex or choice to not simply execute all targets as quickly as possible without still having others Compelled to keep trying… he wants a riled up challenge more than actual brutal murders of random subordinates that decided to Attempt anything collectively like a driveby which could be why he starts trying to see how cleverly he can abuse èdō tènséī before he even simply chooses to cancel his own release from it because he can just recast it in himself when it’s released before he disappears cause only his spirit needs to and… actually I wonder if that only worked because the Body used as the sacrifice for manifestation of him was still viable and controllable through Just making a woodclone eyeball to sprout wherever to control the spirit of the soul with some Rīnnégán shenanigans cause he may even be able to choose what kind eyes are generated when in èdō tènséī form but that’s a whole other conversation innit? But my point is I can half jokingly write a reasonable enough reveal to has Sákūrà best ītáchí UNTIL boom way overpowered sákūrà is now a shárīngán powered Tool of Both ītáchí & lets have Shīsüí use his base 3 tōmōé Shárīngán use kōtō àmátsūkámí To be how she’s dealt with.. hahahaha excuse accidental near mediocre fan manga writing…. Just what popped off the toppa at the moment you know… But I think the main key is Shīsüí using body flicker clone stuff to place Everyone in the meeting under some weird more ultimate form of the jūtsū so then everyone will defend the agendas & perspectives & advisement of himself & ītáchí… I bet he could’ve said he’s gonna use his body flicker afterimage shenanigans to cast a variant of his rewriting brain functions & decisionmaking with belief it’s entirely one’s own ideas jūtsū to Dmpower Everyone in the clan to ensure they can have limited death on both sides because each captured high profile figure is a bargaining chip, and even with a little bit of persuasion, a potential future ally… thusly reducing chance of military reactions or interference from foreign spies & whatever else he and ītáchí could’ve thought up without any shady dánzō using 9 tails fear which he can simply blame on a whole clan and once they’re dealt with to give him magical invincibility codes etc. Which he uses ízànágí Way too stupidly but is he even here if ītáchí & Shīsüí are… well functionally Soloing the alliance command in a way less bloody way than Any crazy violence streak if Attempted magical eyeball training… I wonder if he Thought that Tsukuyomi & Yátà Mirror would come with his eyes OR he used it on him so much to make him understand how a victim of his feels so he’s motivated to get a Morally Justifiable & Heroic Revenge Kill on his Brother to ensure a Positive future for him… & of course little bro says “thinks he can kill everyone then walk into the darkness like a traitor!? I will go Darker! Muwahahahahahaa!” Or whatever hehehe The nuance of a kid basically doing a complex local military intelligence orchestrated genocide op Is such a dark & heavy subject to write such an integral character to various plot points… & to simply die going blind hoping he can maybe forehead tap his whatever chakra magic shenanigans to make his little bro automaticallly manifest Exactly his own Mángèkïō Shárīngán using Àmátèrásū on Ōbítō/“Mádārà”… well that bit raises further questions… Did he think that Sásūké would have all his abilities in addition to his own or Just his own? How crazy did creation of Yátà Mirror & tōtsūkà blade sealing technique go? Or is the tōtsūkà blade’s Sealing effects within ītáchí’s own spirit part of ensuring no one else has to deal with these powers because of the cost of such a sealing jūtsū like the entire power dying with him… like if his seal functions similarly to Lord 3rd’s use of the Reaper mask seal which I’d assume is some old Ūzūmákí clan thing until it gets rewritten into whichever kinda Shīnjūtsū alien magic powers that can be used to powerup some new kid without dying or something? Actually I feel like this is the kinda young people cheat Kàwákí might Actually spend time learning to use but with just small amounts of chákrà from whatever aliens or maybe he learns to consume others’ spirits in a chákrà possessive way Though that feels more like a Rīnnégán evolution to his current eye which would probably be something wild… But then I’m back to thinking he’s using èdō tènséī on his eye anytime mōmōshíkhí tries to control it which Migjt be a cool way of doing it… sacrifice an Ôtsūtsūkí piece to regain a piece of one’s own soul because you became one with that alien but don’t always want their… somewhat negative input… but it can be why his eye is coloured like an èdō tènséī super bïákūgán capable of imitating all other magical alien eyeball powers in a transcendent way… but I dunno… then we can all debate over whether it was that dark always or whatever about its powers for maybe a few months depending how it’s done… but that’s just some easy way of having the Kill plan make more sense… though I don’t think Kàwákí was planning to do èdō tènséī plu rīnné rebirth at cost of alien that took the body cause that might be too simple a solution for them to allow it to work or they don’t want them to figure it out til the end of the story… but man why can’t you instead of eating a small animal use it as sacrifice for regaining limbs until they’re destroyed by whatever destroys the jūtsū variant? Maybe I’m overthinking too many things but some of it’s probably got some twisted version coming up over next months or years hehe who knows what wild choices might get made going forward… But I think bottom like ītáchí & Shīsüí taking on the Kágé summit is handling with no deaths UNLESS it’s some time travel need to delete dánzō extra bad stuff which Could be amazing if they just made each of them sit quietly and listen to all of eachother spill their darkest international secrets before agreeing to some reasonable alliance to work more coooeratively because of emerging threats… & to look out for that timeline’s ītáchí… which gets the “I think your little brother just killed you… like…. This past weekend actually…” “Yes! I knew he’d become Konica’s Hero!” I mean that I think this situation is handled BEFORE much of any combat can even take place… I wonder if ītáchí can combo with kōtō àmátsūkámí using Tsukuyomi so that Shīsüí’s eyes aren’t as impacted? (Just more ideas for anyone writing anything cool with these characters, aye?)
most kage can fall into genjutsu and well this duo are two of the most gifted genjutsu users an both have insane IQ's and there both uchiha so yea its gonna be quit a diffcult fight.
Nah shisui is below ks sasuke😂his trump card makes him equal but every other stat ks sasuke is stronger aaaand ks sasuke is equal or less equipped than itachi(spirit shield and blade).
Idk itachi would probably easely beat honoki, the itachi you are taking in consideration negged the same orochimaru who was relative to a much younger and stronger hiruzen alongside enma, so probably he'd do the same to honoki
@@nazrulislam-dl3tv EMS is not a small amp. It’s insane. Just right off the bat when sasuke got his, he was stated to have surpassed itachi in visual prowess, and he later got the frickin perfect susanoo with it
A stronger itachi got his but whooped by yagura. I have no reason to believe shisui is fast enough to avoid people like A ALSO were not taking into account things like super weighted boulder jutsu, boil release the fact that neither of them have susanoo and there’s no counter to particle style…
Brother watch that video and showed almost the entire fight with Yagura. He shot one fireball and fucked Yagura up so bad he went into v2 and started firing biju bombs and Itachi just weaved around and dropped him dead instantly with Amaterasu
actually obito controlling the uchia planned to use shisuis speed to blitz the third hokage Who as an old man is stated the strongest of the 5 kage Including v1 raikage
They put up a good fight but nah they losing. There is no convincing me otherwise please i beg you don't waste your time i just don't see it happening.
I’m not sold on you scaling kid itachi and shisui up to sasuke/ danzo that fought sasuke in terms of stats. The idea that the raikage wouldn’t be a blitz tier or two above them seems like a far cry to me. The raikage basically blitzed sasuke pretty easily. The only reason sasuke wasn’t dead is because he actually had a defense capable of letting him survive blows from the raikage. I’m not sure they would have that. Hell without flame control he would have died even with the susanno right? I know you had a section about if shisui could or couldn’t use susanno but outside of susanno they wouldn’t be able to live his attacks that sasuke wasn’t able to really dodge. It’s already shaky to place them in the same speed tier as that version of sasuke let alone the raikage. I do believe without the susanno he blitzes and one shots both. Of course love the video though.
@@Virhtue I meant to only leave one comment even though I want people to see your vids. The case you gave for them scaling to sasuke and danzo requires one to speculate to come to that conclusion. Kid itachi basically at minato levels of speed? Sasuke barely was able to react to the raikage. His only option was to surround his susanno in fire because he could not deal with his speed
Mei is a victim of people think losing a fight = being trash when people dont consider that she fought two powerhouses and nobody else. Its like when people clowned Kankuro for losing to Sasori(depsite him having 0 info and fighting the guy who made all his pupputs), who is Super Kankuro
Great vid.
I am absolutely loving the vids man this community of ours feels small and niche at times but the constant material with the equal love keep it up man ❤
Glad you enjoy it!
Yeah was just praising this dude out loud while packing loud
@@Virhtue he speaks the truth dont stop man
Is it me, or have Naruto videos been going crazy for the last few days. Like..... Virhtue, SageOTC, LightningSnow, Six, Loko, TG. I've had like 2-3 Naruto videos to watch every day. Y'all had to plan this at the Kage Summit😭
Yeah everyone dropping Naruto power scaling vids and I like it!
Loko is a fucking fraud
Where dygo knight at
We really eating after the barren days of just Swag and Seth doing 99% of the Naruto content
@@griffix2841 Cuz I feel like Dygo videos are more consistent and constant than others. Same with NCHammer. Could just be me though🤔
Swagkage has madara
Noodles has kakuzu
Loko and dygoknight has sasuke
And our boy here has itachi
Which column is doing the sucking😂
Totally fine with that but most mfs would probably say I have Minato
@@Virhtue minato scaling is OK with me (he's my goat) but the itachi wank is a bit too much
@@Virhtue 😈😈😈
I mean someone has to scale Itachi properly lol 😂. Oh also we are acting like he didn’t say he most likely will die to Ohnoki, which is quite possible.
It's a damn good week for Naruto content.
Whole community is cooking up.
Brother we out here, I be grinding
Most people don’t know this but in the novel sasuke Jinraiden which takes place after sasuke learns the truth about itatchi and before the moment on the rock he does perform a tsukuyomi level genjutsu where he tortures someone for 72 hours but only a few seconds pass in the real world but it does take a lot out of him
Holy shit
I have seen this but I’ve questioned a lot about it
@@Virhtue I can understand that but I personally don’t have any problems with it we see obito do a koto like genjutsu on yagura and sasuke says it takes a lot out of him and he needs to get use to the ms I think it’s possible for those with the ms to use things like koto and tsukyomi or something very similar to them but that’s just something I think I don’t blame you if you think differently about it
@@Robbieuchiha That was not really like Kotoamatsukami when it was total brainwashing instead of a phantom suggestion. Tsukuyomi can do much more than seventy-two hours, regardless.
@@Robbieuchiha Those are induvidual MS abilities. Just having the MS shouldn't give one access to them. That would be like saying anyone with and MS has access to Kamui.
I subscribe to the games as supplementary canon, and I really appreciate you including supplementary material to support certain points you make. Anyways, fire video dude 🔥🖤🔥🖤 Keep it up!
Awesome, thank you! I definitely try to articulate not just the most founded argument but a case for the other interpretations aswell
@@Virhtue I just realized I wrote movie, but I meant the games 😅 I think the style of your presentation is amazing. Thank you for all the hard work!
Great video love the Shisui respect people downplay him too much his very strong i agree with pretty much everything you said with his scaling and I do think his susanoo is cannon for all the reasons you mentioned plus lore wise it makes since it’s said to unlock it you have to have the ms in both eyes which he does
Exactly
On the contrary, I haven't seen a single person ever say Shisui is weak. I actually think he's overrated.
@@pkj2148 well that’s what you’ve seen all I’ve seen on CZcams twitter tik tok instagram and all over the place is how trash and weak Shisui is and he’s weaker than danzo and all other types of nonsense
@@pkj2148 well I see the completely opposite , ppl think he’s below Danzo and itachi several tiers in overall stats
@@poodie3887 I guess we frequent different places then. All I ever see is how Shisui is the most talented Uchiha and that Danzo had to cheat to beat him.
Your videos be carrying me through my workshift😂 God bless bro 🙏❤️
another banger 🤧🔥bro really don’t miss .😂
Gonna have to come back to this, but I know my GOAT cooked 🔥
ready for this heat
Always
fire video after fire video, dude !
You already know!🔥❤️
Gonna be a banger
Holy hell this was fast
You know who does solo the 5 kage summit? Danzo and Hiurzen 🗣️🔥🔥😊
Unironically, yeah Kinda.
You really don't stop making dope and new videos
Love your vids man
Thank you so much, that’s why I do it❤️❤️
Fire content bro.
Thank you!!
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it my friend
Im glad you pointed out virthue how fast the susanoo appears because thats the only way sasuke survived the raikage 😂 and its the same way itachi and shisui would survive certainly not by travel speed
Could be true, but judging by the speed disparity they probably could move around
@@Virhtue where's the definitive proof that itachi or shisuis travel speed is that much faster than ms sasuke cuz there isnt😄
@@vaughnjackson6297 shisui scales to alive kage minato in bodyflicker speed
@@jayash2957 nah shisui gets cooked by danzo
Honestly, always wanted to see Shisui be more active. He doesn't do much in the story but has such a high impact on Itachi, who's pretty pivotal to the story. Not only that, but Shisui is super powerful given that he should be above Fugaku, a Kage candidate.
Very true, he really is almost like a lore chess piece, we know his notable lore but only see him in like than five chapters
You gotta make more videos with this shisui and itachi team up vs something
I’m not sold on you scaling kid itachi and shisui up to sasuke/ danzo that fought sasuke in terms of stats. The idea that the raikage wouldn’t be a blitz tier or two above them seems like a far cry to me. The raikage basically blitzed sasuke pretty easily. The only reason sasuke wasn’t dead is because he actually had a defense capable of letting him survive blows from the raikage. I’m not sure they would have that. Hell without flame control he would have died even with the susanno right? I know you had a section about if shisui could or couldn’t use susanno but outside of susanno they wouldn’t be able to live his attacks that sasuke wasn’t able to really dodge. It’s already shaky to place them in the same speed tier as that version of sasuke let alone the raikage. I do believe without the susanno he blitzes and one shots both. Of course love the video though.
Shosui is kinda fodder if we put bias aside ngl, what has he like... done at all feat wise?
well there are 3 versions of the danzo fight for shisui, in the itachi midnight novel, which is the only accepted canon version, shisui gets poisoned by an aburame, one eye ripped out by danzo while he was confused, and then when he figures out whats going on he actually perception blitzes danzo(he body flickered away and he always did so with a right handed tiger sign, but danzo couldnt see this sign or any movement and was confused as to what happened) obviously danzo could also react to sasuke in the summit to shisui scales above that sasuke, the same one that was superior to the v1 raikage and reacted to the v2
Absolutely nothing other than the novel feats i mentioned and his statements regarding his lore
@@Virhtue dang
@@coin4898learn to comprehend
@@AidenB1010 the problem with this scaling chain is that it assumes that Donzo is the same at both points.
This is an issue because he can't have an arm full of sharrengun pre-massacre.
Shisui speedblitzes everyone with body flicker…even Minato🫢
Blud bringing new Naruto Gen 🐐
The 5 Kage Eat this duo
Simply not true
Probably. Akatsuki Itachi is a different story though.
Seems dubious Obito would even grant Itachi and Shisui Zetsu when they already have fairly progressed eyes when he did so for Sasuke ofr that purpose.
It is never stated Itachi jumped to the top of the AnBu after progressing to the massacre. He only fights one AnBu, whom he had a special means of paralyzing.
Obito being surprised that Itachi did not joke does not really prove his power when Obito is goading him the entire time as a pawn. As he tells Yashiro, it was a decision on a whim.
Shisui said Itachi would surpass him after he died, so he is almost certainly weaker than massacre Itachi who is stronger still.
That anime guide used for Itachi also says Fugaku is the strongest in the clan, so not the best scaling for Itachi.
At some point Itachi started tuning out the murder he was inflicting, so the progression of tragedy would be capped.
Body Flicker does not always require a hand seal. Both Sasuke and A have used Body Flicker in combat without any preparation.
Shisui did not really participate in the Third Shinobi World War. He awakened his Mangekyō shortly after it concluded and his reputation further grew from there. According to the official Naruto website, much of his fame came due to the vacuum caused by the absence of the Sannin and Minato after the latter's death, suggesting he is not really competing against them at that point (in addition to Uchiha bias).
Danzō might not have had his Sharingan arm by the time Shisui died. If he did, they would be sealed in his gauntlet and likely not taking his chakra (Kakashi's Sharingan is not draining him until he uncovers the hitai-ate). Even if they were, it would be mostly mitigated by his Hashirama cells, so when they are not released, his stamina would likely be about the same.
Shisui is two levels below Massacre Itachi, whilst Sasuke is nearing Akatsuki Itachi, so arguable that Shisui is actually below him by that point.
Darui being named one of the commanders of the Allied Shinobi Forces suggests he is not only one of the top Kumo-nin, but one of the top shinobi in the entire world. Even Kage like Gaara (and equivalents such as Mifune) were considered for a command position, and despite that Darui still earned a spot, the same relative position as the strongest in Konoha, Kakashi.
Itachi against B, Naruto, and Kabuto is beyond the scope of the version of this video.
Sasuke can also use Body Flicker as shown against Tobi and Deidara, yet he was unable to get out of the way of A's full speed, so dubious if Shisui's would do any better. Itachi, likewise, might not have a Susanoo by this point.
Madara's genjutsu is arguably superior to Itachi's, given Madara can control Kurama, yet Gerotora and Jiraiya think no one alive could do so to their knowledge, and they were unaware of Itachi's degradation. Id est, unquantifiable if either of their genjutsu would work.
That Sasuke never tried genjutsu on A like he did on B would indicate A's assertion might have been valid up to Sasuke's caliber.
Shisui did not shoot lasers. Those were chakra senbon.
Seems more like that Chōjūrō was trying to isolate Sasuke rather than break the Susanoo, which Itachi might not even have.
Yagura's Version 2 being burned is inconsistent with Naruto being able to block a much stronger Amaterasu with a fatigued Version 1. That entire interaction also does not fit canonically given Yagura should have already been under Obito's control.
Shisui might not have the stamina to outlast Danzō given his Susanoo immediately collapsed after he used it once in the game, and Sasuke is generally noted to have outrageous amounts of stamina, and was still brought to his limit, so it is likely he would begin to fatigue and Danzō would have the edge, doubly so when Karin would not be able to heal him, so he would enter the fight already partially fatigued, triply so if Obito does not help him against the Root guards.
Ngl you cooked him, he glaze the fuck out of shisui and itachi, that’s coming from a shisui fan.
We can discuss any of these points individually bc knowing your reputation for takes I’m not sending a whole book back
Tf out of here “I glazed them” open your ears and in the first two minutes I told you I would take a generous and ubiquitous interpretation
@@Virhtue there is a difference between being “generous” and making very very big leaps and using statements that were literally contradicted in the same material. Lmao no need to get so pressed 👴
@@DXXD_ Fr all that gymnastics to put shisui on the level of Ay when both of them get clapped pretty hard by V1 alone
Itachi (no sickness) vs Tobirama (hokage alive)
Itachi (edo) vs Tobirama (edo)
Who do ya have on top ?
It’s definitely a topic, but I will say Tobirama probably has a slight advantage but I could make this video
@@Virhtue that would be a pretty “sick” video!
Because Itachi was sick, get it! Please laugh😭😂
2:37 it's probably that the amaterasu was touching what was in the vision of itachi
It could of been like a drag
Haven’t seen yet but the ones in the thumbnail do worse than sasuke ngl
Potentially but we are taking Itachi from the massacre
If Itachi doesn’t have the yata mirror yet he might be cooked but if he does that should block Particle Style
as an itachi fan boi, you always cook on his scaling and videos🙏🏾 as always great video
More to come!
Commenting again to boost the Algorithm, but Nagato/Six Paths of Pain vs 5KS would be fun
Seth, Six, and Swagkage did it, but it'd be dope to see you do it with Thunder Bark and SatoriYT. Woof God and SatoriYT just cus they're GOATed
I did it by myself before
@@Virhtue Damn how did I miss that
Or did I see it and forget you already did it lmao
@@CH1C4N0444 Bro is still getting called Thunder Bark😭 Free my boy🤣
@@diondadigger Thunder Bark can't be freed. This is Woof God's fate, sadly
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Thank you!
I think the rikage underestimates itachi and shisui’s MS genjutsu and falls victim to it. Even just a subtle one into tsykinomi would end him. And knowing itachi, he’s getting him in one the moment the rikage looks at him.
Ngl think itachi slaughters oniki , especially with itachi being above hiruzen and orochimaru at no point in part one does he even think he can beat Itachi with the three Tomoi even with all the resources he has throughout part one which is actually crazy
Hidan vs zabuza?
Hidan
@@Virhtue video
Yashiro isn’t a bias
He was stated to be controlled by obito who isn’t bias
He never wanted orochimaru as kage you lied
And he is more mad at the unfair treatment of fugaku
Not because he didn’t become kage
Novel proof🔽
“Village officials don’t want the Uchihaclan standing on center stage. They said nothing in the village about all the work you did during the Great War, Lord Fugaku. Because of that, it was Minato”
Proof of uchiha mistreatment🔽
“Second Hokage established the Military Police Force." "The Military Police Force was created to drive the
Uchiha clan away from the central functions of the village." "Mm." Sighing, Hiruzen packed tobacco into his pipe for the third time.”
I could see itachi stopping the particle style by using tsyuki to fry his brain before he fully uses it notice it was a time before the justu went off even before obito grabbed sasuke so it’d be a close call but itachi & shisui goin back home to leaf 😎 high difficulty but nevertheless another victory 4 the uchiha
Itachi was confident about being able to fight Obito who he thought was Madara but he was not confident about being able to fight Fugaku
No one can argue Amaterasu’s heat Sasuke used it to sublimate metal instantly against shin Uchiha which cannot be done irl at least with normal means
It is as hot as the sun on the intended target, maybe not do standby injects though
Man honestly my thoughts on the fights in Naruto is the same as usual; the winner is whoever incapacitates to a reasonably irreversible state without complex interference or people being brought in as support, or straight up ends the Life of whoever the combatant is…
Regardless of who the characters are, and our feelings about them, I can just as easily write a scenario to make it FEEL narratively reasonable for early-mid shippuden Sákūrà defeats ītáchí!
Realistically with full capabilities & all character arc motivations and knowledge removed & the other just treated as “oh no a potential threat that Appears to be a kid from Konoha… I gotta do em in or at least make it Appear that I have… so I guess I’ll use Tsukuyomi in combination with a complex sharing of different conditional experiences as I felt or even show what my brother experienced & explain that She would Probably not have lived beyond 8 or whatever Sásūké’s age was because if I didn’t take out the clan the Entire village would’ve… oh let me show multiple variants of my BigBrain self-TimeTranscendent Gènjūtsū I cast on myself from within my own imagination to experience lowest to strongest variants of all means of attack from different nations’ groups… & then explanation of something about some būshídō & service to the appointed & actively serving hōkágé & how I Had to Play along with Dánzō… oh & memory of how impressed I am with even Child Shīsüí using whichever variant of Kōtō Àmátsūkámí to reprogramme even a hypothetical version of herself which we Also make stronger & more capable than her normal self by some collaborative double Gènjūtsū shenanigans… oh wow it seems she Really loves my brother but what if- … … …she-… She would Still Love my brother Even if he decided to murder her multiple additional times because even after resigning herself to killing him to protect others with intent of Dying With him She was still incapable of striking him… I forgot what tears naturally generated felt like since the last 40 times I had liquid coming out of my eyeballs it was either blood and or tears generated whilst trying to absorb these highly questionable medicines that require intraoccular absorption… but… maybe he won’t die a virgin… I wish I had gotten to sleep with my wife in Real Life instead of only having a whole family & years of marriage which was a hallucination I decided to live through just to prevent anything worse… so nice that I get to serve as Shīsüí’s shadow Kágé before Sásūké became a hero helping his friends be the top squad of their generation… so of course me and Ízūmí’s kids all look up to everyone that I love who all seem to act like Me and my morals controlling them as a videogame & Dánzō’s evil is of course what leads to Hírūzèn asking for Shīsüí & me to lead the village after heroically stopping the terrible coup which… oh let’s say the shadowy Mádàrà guy that actually let’s say he just used whatever complex forbidden Jūtsū that I can take some liberties with… oh she’s gonna love this how it’s Actually Her that reminds me of something that helps us Save Everyone & so Shīsüí asks Me to be hōkágé so He can be the new Master for… Sásūké because… oh of course she gets a pretty dress of her dreams & whatever shopping fantasies… oh she just wants more of us eating our favourite snacks where every time we both Look like our child versions to eachother but all romance triggers her seeing some imaginary ultimately sexy versions of us & oh man I’m getting distracted just Recalling what should’ve been the Only Time I ever needed to use the power of Tsukuyomi…”
Or Sákūrà could just say “lady Tsūnádé did train me for this… because I love the man with your brother’s eyes…
Man now I’m wondering if there isn’t some complex variant of èdō tènséī used in crowclone jūtsū with some Shárīngán Yáng release brain remapping for specific effects which can do thing like sealing and unsealing the crowclone with whatever powers learning to build up enough chákrà for use of a complex MS ability which reprogramming release and storage of… if only I used èdō tènséī to bring back Shīsüí but I only know bits of informations from which I can vaguely reverse engineer… since I’m the real Reincarnate of Mádàrà who never killed & stole brothers eye Because they loved their little brother more than themselves like a more ideal Big Brother figure that everyone probably wishes they were this brilliant in analysis & Kágé+ level decisionmaking skills… as the goodguy Mádàrà on the side of the village more than his clan when the clan is beefing with the village as Mádàrà anticipated but probably in quicker worse ways than actually happen… but man is this potentially making Ízūnà the Actual Īndrà reincarnate? Cause then Mádàrà is more of the failed brother Ásūrà but if he had different abilities to all of them… but then we’d have anticipated inferno style techniques & tsukuyomi… I guess Mádārà has no need for attempting Ÿátà Mirror or anything as tactically sound as complex sealing Jūtsū uses which aren’t simply about some kind of violent power flex or choice to not simply execute all targets as quickly as possible without still having others Compelled to keep trying… he wants a riled up challenge more than actual brutal murders of random subordinates that decided to Attempt anything collectively like a driveby which could be why he starts trying to see how cleverly he can abuse èdō tènséī before he even simply chooses to cancel his own release from it because he can just recast it in himself when it’s released before he disappears cause only his spirit needs to and… actually I wonder if that only worked because the Body used as the sacrifice for manifestation of him was still viable and controllable through Just making a woodclone eyeball to sprout wherever to control the spirit of the soul with some Rīnnégán shenanigans cause he may even be able to choose what kind eyes are generated when in èdō tènséī form but that’s a whole other conversation innit?
But my point is I can half jokingly write a reasonable enough reveal to has Sákūrà best ītáchí UNTIL boom way overpowered sákūrà is now a shárīngán powered Tool of Both ītáchí & lets have Shīsüí use his base 3 tōmōé Shárīngán use kōtō àmátsūkámí To be how she’s dealt with.. hahahaha excuse accidental near mediocre fan manga writing….
Just what popped off the toppa at the moment you know…
But I think the main key is Shīsüí using body flicker clone stuff to place Everyone in the meeting under some weird more ultimate form of the jūtsū so then everyone will defend the agendas & perspectives & advisement of himself & ītáchí…
I bet he could’ve said he’s gonna use his body flicker afterimage shenanigans to cast a variant of his rewriting brain functions & decisionmaking with belief it’s entirely one’s own ideas jūtsū to Dmpower Everyone in the clan to ensure they can have limited death on both sides because each captured high profile figure is a bargaining chip, and even with a little bit of persuasion, a potential future ally… thusly reducing chance of military reactions or interference from foreign spies & whatever else he and ītáchí could’ve thought up without any shady dánzō using 9 tails fear which he can simply blame on a whole clan and once they’re dealt with to give him magical invincibility codes etc. Which he uses ízànágí Way too stupidly but is he even here if ītáchí & Shīsüí are… well functionally Soloing the alliance command in a way less bloody way than Any crazy violence streak if Attempted magical eyeball training…
I wonder if he Thought that Tsukuyomi & Yátà Mirror would come with his eyes OR he used it on him so much to make him understand how a victim of his feels so he’s motivated to get a Morally Justifiable & Heroic Revenge Kill on his Brother to ensure a Positive future for him…
& of course little bro says “thinks he can kill everyone then walk into the darkness like a traitor!? I will go Darker! Muwahahahahahaa!” Or whatever hehehe
The nuance of a kid basically doing a complex local military intelligence orchestrated genocide op Is such a dark & heavy subject to write such an integral character to various plot points… & to simply die going blind hoping he can maybe forehead tap his whatever chakra magic shenanigans to make his little bro automaticallly manifest Exactly his own Mángèkïō Shárīngán using Àmátèrásū on Ōbítō/“Mádārà”… well that bit raises further questions…
Did he think that Sásūké would have all his abilities in addition to his own or Just his own?
How crazy did creation of Yátà Mirror & tōtsūkà blade sealing technique go?
Or is the tōtsūkà blade’s Sealing effects within ītáchí’s own spirit part of ensuring no one else has to deal with these powers because of the cost of such a sealing jūtsū like the entire power dying with him… like if his seal functions similarly to Lord 3rd’s use of the Reaper mask seal which I’d assume is some old Ūzūmákí clan thing until it gets rewritten into whichever kinda Shīnjūtsū alien magic powers that can be used to powerup some new kid without dying or something?
Actually I feel like this is the kinda young people cheat Kàwákí might Actually spend time learning to use but with just small amounts of chákrà from whatever aliens or maybe he learns to consume others’ spirits in a chákrà possessive way Though that feels more like a Rīnnégán evolution to his current eye which would probably be something wild…
But then I’m back to thinking he’s using èdō tènséī on his eye anytime mōmōshíkhí tries to control it which Migjt be a cool way of doing it… sacrifice an Ôtsūtsūkí piece to regain a piece of one’s own soul because you became one with that alien but don’t always want their… somewhat negative input… but it can be why his eye is coloured like an èdō tènséī super bïákūgán capable of imitating all other magical alien eyeball powers in a transcendent way… but I dunno… then we can all debate over whether it was that dark always or whatever about its powers for maybe a few months depending how it’s done… but that’s just some easy way of having the Kill plan make more sense… though I don’t think Kàwákí was planning to do èdō tènséī plu rīnné rebirth at cost of alien that took the body cause that might be too simple a solution for them to allow it to work or they don’t want them to figure it out til the end of the story… but man why can’t you instead of eating a small animal use it as sacrifice for regaining limbs until they’re destroyed by whatever destroys the jūtsū variant?
Maybe I’m overthinking too many things but some of it’s probably got some twisted version coming up over next months or years hehe who knows what wild choices might get made going forward…
But I think bottom like ītáchí & Shīsüí taking on the Kágé summit is handling with no deaths UNLESS it’s some time travel need to delete dánzō extra bad stuff which Could be amazing if they just made each of them sit quietly and listen to all of eachother spill their darkest international secrets before agreeing to some reasonable alliance to work more coooeratively because of emerging threats… & to look out for that timeline’s ītáchí… which gets the “I think your little brother just killed you… like…. This past weekend actually…”
“Yes! I knew he’d become Konica’s Hero!”
I mean that I think this situation is handled BEFORE much of any combat can even take place…
I wonder if ītáchí can combo with kōtō àmátsūkámí using Tsukuyomi so that Shīsüí’s eyes aren’t as impacted? (Just more ideas for anyone writing anything cool with these characters, aye?)
Ah; “use of SpeakFunction is advised for proper Lulz!”
I’m reporting you, that’s the only thing I can do at this point smh
Thank you goat
What if kakashi went with jiraiya to the rain village? Vid recommended
I have it planned
Pain sends the six paths right at the beginning and it’s over
Itachi bodies Oonoki lol. Itachi is considered a rival to Obito and he's above Orichimaru and Hiruzen. All 3 scale above Oonoki
Cap
Itachi blitzes Ohnoki by Amaterasu and Ohnoki Particle style is blocked by yata mirror and Itachi can outrun it.
W
Always
Ah okay we going off of Itachi having infinite stamina and a healthy body for these fights
No we aren’t, that was one of my first points for the amaterasu
No more Itachi vids bro 😭
Still gave a like tho
most kage can fall into genjutsu and well this duo are two of the most gifted genjutsu users an both have insane IQ's and there both uchiha so yea its gonna be quit a diffcult fight.
For sure!
I thought he was going to use pre-mangekyo itachi
Nah, they probably would lose then
I wanna see if Fugaku actually fought Itachi at the massacre 🤔
I mean I’ll be honest there isn’t a way to scale this
@@Virhtue honestly tbf you’re right all I know is that Fugaku would win that or “Naruto Explained” was glazing Fugaku
Dude opened the video saying Itachi and Shisui were underrated...
They are
😮😮😮
Nah shisui is below ks sasuke😂his trump card makes him equal but every other stat ks sasuke is stronger aaaand ks sasuke is equal or less equipped than itachi(spirit shield and blade).
shisuis speed outscales sasuke based on their performance against danzo
With no substance at all👍
@@AidenB1010 shisui got cooked by danzo
@@vaughnjackson6297bro did you watch the video?
@@extremelyvividcardgames7890 enlighten me
Shisui and Itachi at fp power would win. they would also give ems madara a better battle
Minato knew of Shisui I’m willing to bet Shisui was Obitos Replacement
If I was Madara I probably would of
As a huge Itachi fan Im always proud to see the respect you put on his name.
Idk itachi would probably easely beat honoki, the itachi you are taking in consideration negged the same orochimaru who was relative to a much younger and stronger hiruzen alongside enma, so probably he'd do the same to honoki
That was the one thing I brought up for his win con
Ems don’t give you that much power up that it will surpass ms special abilities.
Pretty much stated to be false.
What false?
@@nazrulislam-dl3tv EMS is not a small amp. It’s insane. Just right off the bat when sasuke got his, he was stated to have surpassed itachi in visual prowess, and he later got the frickin perfect susanoo with it
Clearly he didn’t surpass itachi in visual prowess. And had half susano. Manga says that.
well it just overall makes u stronger even the moment u have ems. you just keep getting stronger and can spam attacks
Minato didn’t need to use body flicker and shisui was never as fast as him
In a sense
With bodyflicker shisui is actually faster than hokage minato
shisui and itachi likely loses 5 kage strenght in numbers
All at once they definitely lose, that’s why it’s the summit
5 kage slams these emos and these emos>>>>indra
A stronger itachi got his but whooped by yagura. I have no reason to believe shisui is fast enough to avoid people like A ALSO were not taking into account things like super weighted boulder jutsu, boil release the fact that neither of them have susanoo and there’s no counter to particle style…
Filler.
Brother watch that video and showed almost the entire fight with Yagura. He shot one fireball and fucked Yagura up so bad he went into v2 and started firing biju bombs and Itachi just weaved around and dropped him dead instantly with Amaterasu
actually obito controlling the uchia planned to use shisuis speed to blitz the third hokage
Who as an old man is stated the strongest of the 5 kage
Including v1 raikage
Shisui ain't even need to show up for work today
I'm of the belief that Itachi would know to Tsukoyomi Ohnoki on pull up. I'm pretty sure he'd at least be aware of his threat level and prioritize
They put up a good fight but nah they losing. There is no convincing me otherwise please i beg you don't waste your time i just don't see it happening.
I think they could lose at Ohnoki
@@Virhtue I was going to say I feel he is the hard stop I'm not going to lie.
Subbed btw
anbu duo gets washed by Ay
Washed is crazy
I’m not sold on you scaling kid itachi and shisui up to sasuke/ danzo that fought sasuke in terms of stats. The idea that the raikage wouldn’t be a blitz tier or two above them seems like a far cry to me. The raikage basically blitzed sasuke pretty easily. The only reason sasuke wasn’t dead is because he actually had a defense capable of letting him survive blows from the raikage. I’m not sure they would have that. Hell without flame control he would have died even with the susanno right? I know you had a section about if shisui could or couldn’t use susanno but outside of susanno they wouldn’t be able to live his attacks that sasuke wasn’t able to really dodge. It’s already shaky to place them in the same speed tier as that version of sasuke let alone the raikage. I do believe without the susanno he blitzes and one shots both. Of course love the video though.
W two comments, helping the algorithm but why so. There was an empirical case for it
@@Virhtue I meant to only leave one comment even though I want people to see your vids. The case you gave for them scaling to sasuke and danzo requires one to speculate to come to that conclusion. Kid itachi basically at minato levels of speed? Sasuke barely was able to react to the raikage. His only option was to surround his susanno in fire because he could not deal with his speed