What is Existential Depression? (15 Signs You Have It)
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- Existential depression is a type of spiritual emergency that tends to impact highly sensitive and empathic people. It is crippling, profound, pervasive, and highly personal in nature. Sometimes, giving a name to what you've experienced or are currently experiencing can help tremendously. Don't forget that there's ALWAYS hope, which is the purpose of this video! (If you are at risk of harming yourself, please seek immediate help here: www.suicide.org/international-...)
1:40 - What is existential depression?
2:22 - 15 signs you have existential depression
3:54 - What causes existential depression?
4:46 - Soul loss as the root cause
7:12 - Existential depression and sensitivity
8:06 - 8 ways to overcome existential depression
Narrated by Mateo Sol. Original article was written by Aletheia Luna: lonerwolf.com/existential-dep...
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All 15.
I clicked on this video bc of the thumbnail. I witnessed the total solar eclipse just a week ago and it amplified my existential depression
That much have been amazing, we still have to wait till 2030's down under to get on the full eclipse trajectory. ~M
I believe it's sooner than that mate. 2028 there will be a total solar eclipse cutting through Australia and New Zealand @@LonerWolf
@@LonerWolf I thought in a few years for Australia, 2028
I’m 17 and suffering with this. Learning to let go, to understand that all of life’s questions can’t be answered and the mind is limited has helped. Living in the moment and spending time outside and with pets and or people can help. Definitely hard to go through this so young. Pray for all to heal 🙏
Could relate with all 15 symptoms, it started when I was 19, right now I’m 22, and it is at peak, this existential depression, unable to relate with anyone, I don’t like what I used to, only moments of being in nature brings some peace. Nobody really understands, It feels quiet terrifying and lonely. But one thing, I’m really grateful about is your work, that I found your work. I feel okay, when I watch your videos or read your work, a deep heartfelt thank you.
I'm happy to know our work brings you some solance. Know that these experiences are transient states by the very definition of 'state', as time goes on and we continue orienting toward finding that deeper true nature, the depression subsides. Sending lots of love 💜
~M
Do you live near the ocean? Surfing helped me a lot over the years. You mentioned Nature. It’s the best medicine, for certain! Sending peace your way. And light. 🤙🏽🌊
Dude😢 *sigh*
Alot of things happened after this depressive phase, alot of crumbling, but slowly I'm feeling better. Alot better. Trying to reconnect with myself .
I've been there, it's hard but once you overcome it, you become a new being, hold on!
u cant overcome it because u literally cant solve the equation of universe.
@@MetroCop2077 yes you can because its just a matter of perspective and how you react on those things.
Thank you. I believe I have this. It’s like the world doesn’t make sense, it feels too fast, to loud, too harsh. I feel like an alien 👾
It’s very lonely. A very few understand occasionally; but the majority would not. I feel like I’m watching a weird film and people are like zombies. Also socialising feels empty and pointless nearly every time.
Thank you for making these videos, they are great.
Thank you, for being you, for having the courage the venture into this unknown journey
Existential depression is not a mental illness, nor a philosophy, nor a sensitive personality, nor high intellectual abilities, but the truth QURAN(22-68)(31-30)
I feel the same way, it’s comforting, for the first time, to read something like this, to someone you could relate to.
Dats crazy,ty for sharing❤
I’m alive, but I feel dead inside. I’m dead inside, but I want to feel alive.
Asking for help here end there….has more of negative results than hopes. And people that one can or might call friends, bully me and misunderstand me.
They even call me weird, strange, a drama queen, and so many other depressing names.
What’s worse is that I cannot even say or express anything, (opinions, ideas, of even how I’m feeling) cause it doesn’t matter the time, how I carefully choose my words, or even how respectfully treat others, cause then I come across as pathetic.
I’ve done meditation, counseling, personal self discovering to open up my mind to everything and anything in order to I guess be/feel normal in the eyes of those that live in a different world, cause I do feel I’m in another world they cannot see, yet they see me, but I’m ignored neglected, as if there’s no value of my existence and presence.
And yes, for the record, I’m not seeking some kind of validation, just a bit of respect, not being judged unjustifiably, and even a level of understanding rather than being misunderstood for no reason. This video is good it sums up my pain. 🙏🏻
In reading your comment I could have written it myself...It is the first time that someone else feels exectly as myself!...This gives me so much hope that I am not alone in this journey..thank you so much Maxketo2
@@cathyhendrix9966 ……You’re very welcome. Be stronger than before and I know it is easier said than done, but I’m there therefore I can understand how you might be feeling. I’ve been a journey of self discovery of what else can I possibly do for me and my family. I look for good people that could potentially be good friends for the mind and soul. That’s is too not an easy thing to find these days, but not impossible. It’s totally ok to feel deflated, at least I say that to myself just to,acknowledge these feelings, but then I have to shake those feelings of; I engage into activities anything that can have a positive outcome or result in intentions; like connecting and making new friends and if it doesn’t click with a particular person, then I try again till I can fine a legitimate good person that can understand, uplift one’s spirit and be able to see right through, that your worthy to be treasured as a great friend and perhaps more. I also, try to converse openly with people of different walks of life that reminds me, that others can very well be in perhaps more different circumstances than mine. At the end of the day a pain is a pain, a struggle is a struggle and many won’t be able to comprehend how we’re feeling and what it does to us emotionally speaking, but do not give up in putting an effort to feel hope of a better hour, day, a tomorrow, and beautiful future. I hope my poor words can make you see and feel the light within you. Blessings.
@@MaxKito2 I too could have written this. I was feeling like giving up probably more than ever, lying on the floor naked really cold, then went to bed at 5 PM (I never go to bed before midnight). Just wanted to stop everything once for all and just lie there. Got up for some reason at 7 PM. Felt like I don't deserve to meet this end. I feel like I'm hurting someone else by giving up like this. That someone else is me. I sat on the computer, checked my notifications (I had shared a comment on this video and got a reply). I saw yours. You are describing my entire experience, and it's at an all time high these days. Thank you, anyway. And everything that you said, I can tell you sincerely that I acknowledge your experience, recognize it. And without knowing you, just knowing that, I feel that I can say you are a bright spirit, and that people like you give the world hope and light, because I am like you, and I think I do this, even though it's like everyone is blind so they can't see my light. You keep your head up buddy. You keep your head up
@@Dezzyyx …..You are super very welcome. When you were at the part explaining lying naked, but more spiritually naked …..I’m sore I wasn’t there and yes, we may not know each other, but we don’t need to physically know each other, because by me reading this, breaks my heart at the most sincere level. But now that I know position of your struggle and journey, know then, that you’re not alone in any way shape or form. You thanked me for my words that helped you a bit in your situation And I thank you enormously for your courteous spirit to share this and for that you made my day in the most positive way like you wouldn’t imagine. I think a human being doesn’t have to know another human being physically per say to understand one’s soul. And when that happens that a person can see, feel, respect, understand, and have a legitimate level of compassion and love for another person, that we might never met, we could very well be giving each other HOPE and Inspiration for a better moment in time and a better tomorrow. I thanks you for your words as well….Think of our conversation or that of similar other here or anywhere else and let that if possible let that be an inspiration. Don’t give up…. I feel you’re super strong regardless of whatever may be happening……you’ll get up, walk forward and take one step at time. Hugs 🤗 my friend.
@@MaxKito2 Hugs to you, my good friend 🤗
Wow! I have every single symptom of this. The trouble is I have struggled with depression most of my life. Yes, my pets are what has kept me here on this earth so far, them and my grandchildren. I love the work you and Luna do and I appreciate you so much. Thank you!
Thank you Sue, it's beautiful to hear how much your pets have helped. I'm deeply fond of both children and animals for them both have a way of breaking down our defenses, they are nature unfiltered, and they have a way of evoking that very part within us when we're with them 😊
~M
I can relate I would love to connect if you are willing...
@@LonerWolf you have help me so much, thank you for this info. I have a question, hope you can help.... what about severe chest pressure, is it in anyway related ? I have been diagnosed with CPTSD, Anxiety, Depression, but I just have this knowing that is more spiritual and this info resonated with me. Thank you. Love & Light
Omg i hope u have better i also Think i have this but i Dont have all the things but still some signs btw are you still here. I really hope u are my heart Will drop if u arent😢 Plz say your still here❤
The world is quite volatile and ever-changing most in unsustainable and in not so cool ways or patterns. This triggers our sense of existence with irradical questions which are ironically not in sync with our existence.
I feel these. Wow. Im 62, and oh, the experiences and deep traumas ive experienced. After this past set of traumas, and becoming homeless, and car broke down right after, while dealing with debilitating chronic health issues, its even moreso. More lonely.
I was a toddler and remember feeling i didnt belong and was misunderstood. The only time ifelt i belonged, was when i was 5 natural health and natural body care. Then, i fell very ill at 50 years of age while being a single mom, and still pushed myself to still help people!!.
Existential depression predominantly afflicts the gifted.
Mine started when I was 9, and now, at 56, is still going strong. (Despite you're assertion above, there ISN'T always hope.) Can't wait to die, but at least I'm much closer now.
I've been there and overcome it. It can be a curse if you remain stuck, but a gift if you find a way out. For me, it served as a gift because it was the most significant catalyst for my personal transformation and growth. It led to a new self and a new life that I might not have achieved if I never went through it.
Thank you for telling me that it does fade and go away. Thank you so much. I think I already know it, because it feels pointless to be depressed about unknowable things. However, from within this state it gets complicated to see the other side and get back to enjoying life again. So thank you again, a thousand times.
A few years ago, I went through a long and profound DNOTS. It resulted in an n existential depression. But over time it got less after putting in the needed work to ascend from that deep pit. One of the most important things I learned was to learn to accept myself. Learning to be okay with who you are. To stop looking at others to for recognition, or confirmation. The people around you walk their own journey, and as long as they are not awakened, they will not be able to understand what you are going through or accepting you being different.
Take your time to go through the process. It takes as long as it takes. You can snap out of it in a moment, or it can take months. Either is okay.
Inner child and Shadowvwork are both very useful. Learning to accept yourself and eventually love yourself is most essential.
Be kind and gentle to yourself. Let go of other people's expectations and don't expect anything of others. When you learn to love yourself, you will create space for other people as well. It will give you the energy you need to help others as well. Find your purpose. If you do not know it yet, it will come to you in due time.
Thank you Jan-Peter, I really enjoyed your advice and it very much reflects how I try to approach this journey. Especially as a male, I feel we carry a huge inner critic and tyrant that can turn even spirituality into some egoic wrestling match with nothingness. Keeping self-compassion always at the center of my compass is a struggle but it's the gentlest way through this journey.
~M
@@LonerWolf I agree, trying to be gentle with oneself can be a challenge. Whether, male of female, we all have our own challenges to overcome. Many of these are a consequence of the environment we live in. More than ever, we are challenged to stay focused on what matters and not to get lost in all the noise surrounding us.
Many times I have thought to want to talk with you and to share our experiences. Who knows, one day perhaps. Loving the direction Aletheia and you are going. JP
@@Peter-eb9pt I agree, now more than ever Attention has become the new currency as it can be exchanged for money in many of these platforms that use Ads to monetize their ''free'''' product. When that's the incentive, attention, focus, beingness itself becomes a commodity. We also hope to connect with you guys in a more personal way, hopefully our upcoming project provides a way to bring that attention back, and find ways of connecting in a deeper way. :)
~M
This is the most helpful video on this subject that I’ve seen. Thank you so so much for your work. It gave me a little relief ❤
Wowww it's crazy how I finally find a human who understood exatly what I was feeling, and what I always feel undestood by the society. Feeling this connect, I start to gaing back hupofulness, and reconnect to reality. Other depressions that was told to me, wasen't really the reasons I was suffering, and I identify my self with 11 conditions out of 15, from this video. Those feelings are't caised by a job or a genral event as people think, I'TS deeply. So thank you so much to create this video, God bless you.
Thank you ☺️! I needed that today! Have a wonderful day!!
Thank you Robin, I'm happy to know that it was well timed 😊
~M
We are all experiencing massive changes to our physical and Spiritual worlds at this time. As we remove the old worn-out timelines and bent social conditions to replace them with opening the gates of wonder to new world understanding practice and place. In the interim, we are suffering the teething problems of change, of letting go of our stubborn stiff-necked past which is causing some sense of karmic whiplash that places us into the Dark Night of the Soul. As we once more openly question our value and valid place in the new world as it has many many fruits of wonder and personal growth and development to offer. As this tough love happening now will not spiral us into deeper do, do, depressions or deny our rights to Soul retrieval and development. Like the sun the moon and the stars all is not lost it is just a massive cycle groaning and changing, coming to life again if you will. That's why I say don't let go of what you know and feel deep inside as this is just a beautiful passing phase to reline us with what is our true nature and connection in the cosmos.
I appreciate your videos so much. Few other resources I have found address these concepts in such an organized, directed, and grounded way.
Thank you 🙏. I think it may be the outcome of the masculine and feminine working very close together, form marrying structure. 😊 ~M
This video has helped me understand what's going on, I felt something "click" as I was watching this and I feel some sort of meaning and emotion to my life again. I don't know what it was but I think I'm finally on my way to recover, thank you so much for this.
You're so welcome and we're glad to hear it! 🙂
I can relate to this topic for sure. I have had pretty severe depression for as long as I can remember. I am clinically diagnosed with severe depression.
I have done art, writing, seen multiple therapists, tried meditation & yoga, ect... I have a difficult time sticking with things, even if they help me. I know that comes from having gotten used to living with pain & depression.
The most useful things I have found are shamanic work, and meditation through music, & I am a hand drummer (which I rarely do now).
Going back to being a small child, I, to this day (I am 45) remember laying in the snow, watching the snowflakes fall from the sky. I realized I was warm being insulated by the snow. And I, deep within, knew I was connected to everything, & that that is what god is. I felt weightless & completely FULL. Full of just BEING. I knew this experience mattered & I needed to protect it, honor it, remember it, & use this throughout my life.
My life has been pretty crazy, & many of my
experiences sound like a fictional story.
Anyhow, I appreciate you & Luna & what you do for the world, & yourselves.
So very much love & respect.
Great journeys makes great Souls :), thank you for welcome the courage to walk this path.
~M
This is the first time I feel seen. I continually see and lament all these clues in my life that nothing is right; everywhere I look and yet, I don’t know why nothing is right and why I focus almost entirely on the wrongness. Joy doesn’t come even in happy moments because the sadness is there. My life is in reset mode in every way and I know too much to go back. How can I live and love in this state, much less show compassion to myself through it? It’s not a state I would wish on anyone and yet I know I’m here to do this. and I won’t stop until I know ❤
Thanks for that. So many of those symptoms apply to me that it’s even scary.
I had all the 15. I don’t remember when mine started but it has definitely been in me/with me since I have memory/conscience. My childhood was not great, lots of verbal abuse. I’ve always questioned life and my purpose. I feel like I can snap out of existential depression but only for short periods of time before falling back. I’m in a pit right now.
I'm sorry to hear that Yessenia, sending you lots of love. ~M
You helped. Just at the right time. Showed the way. I thank you
This helped alot. I'm currently in my last year of high school and became increasingly stressed about my near future and entering adulthood. I've also been on my spiritual journey since earlier this year which has caused much of my perception of this world to shift in many different ways. When school came back around in autumn, I fell into a seasonal depression as well as becoming depressed by school. I found myself questioning many things such as my usefulness at school, to others, and in my own life. More and more questions piled up and eventually weighed me down. Thankfully, I'm continuously learning to stay grounded and hold compassion for myself and my situations. Much thanks !
Thank you Naya for sharing and for having the wisdom to navigate these transformative fires with passion. 💜
~M
Existential depression is not a mental illness, nor a philosophy, nor a sensitive personality, nor high intellectual abilities, but the truth QURAN(22-68)(31-30)
First of all, I wish to say thanks alot for this very informative and insightful video!
As I went through this video I realized that I got/have 12 of all those 15 signs. Some years back in my life there was a time when I had all those 15 signs, at least I have 3 less now. But I still have a looong way to go and so much to learn and work on still. And my experience with my existential deppression/soul loss/dark night of the soul etc? Well, It's sort of been almost like a roller-coaster between being through both hell and despair and also being ok and a few times quite fine, but a majority being emptiness and total unmotivation etc, and all of these points goes back and forth again and again. And in all this I try to struggle through, but even that goes up-and-down and hasn't been much successful often. One of those reasons are (mostly) outside factors of which, I sadly and so far still, don't have much control over (although I try to)... The other factor, of which is inner-factors, is the self-compassion and nurturing myself (I've got self-esteem and self-worth issues etc), that is where I've got lots to work on still. But I'm slowly getting there. And this video contained lots of useful advice of which will be very valuable and helpful to me, thank you so much! :)
Thank you ZeldAlice. It's lovely to hear how you're going. I like the slow and self-compassion approach you mentioned. I always remind myself there's no real 'destination'' here, we sometimes forget that this is just a journey with ourselves and we're not in a race, and there's no prize at the end, just the journey itself.
~M
I suffer the same 😁
Thanks for this video.
This video - _is home_ or as close as I ever came. Pigeonholes and labels bother me. But therein lies the rub. Absolutely wonderful video, thank you.
🙏💜, and I understand, labels and pigeon holes make some part of me feel claustrophobic , but then I realize that's just a part and not 'me'. 😊 ~M
I meet all of them except the last one 😞, it's been lifelong and peaking more than ever since I'm getting old
This is SUCH an important video. As someone who has experienced (NOT suffered - because suffering is a choice) existential depression twice in my life on 20 year cycles, I can attest to everything in this wonderful video. It is absolutely possible to survive this experience and come out on the other side completely transformed. The depth of peace, joy and gratitude I now experience for life would have NEVER been possible without going through the Dark Night the Soul. I am still finding myself, but the magic is real. To find ourselves, we must lose ourselves - that is the paradox of this painful but life-altering journey we must all inevitably take. Good news is, none of us are alone. We will all go through it, whether in this lifetime or another one. Thank you Mateo and Aletheia!! Much love and gratitude xo
Thank you Olivia for reassuring those who may be going through this, for having the courage to face the unchosen visitor. It's definitely a humbling teacher, whenever you feel you've found some solidity, it's a gentle yet persistant reminder that we need to let go, that we need to allow a new dissolution to happen. I've definitely had my moments of 'kicking and screaming'' no matter how much the wiser part of me knows that once must surrender to it, and allow life to work through us whatever it wishes to untangle.
~M
check check check check check check check.... my experience is that it is an ongoing process and as you gain momentum you can forgive yourself and others and see the truth in a detached way. Believe in the process over the situation and you can even find joy in these depressing parts because you know that it is all leading you towards something good.
I'm turning 14 in a few weeks and this has been haunting me for a while. I have most symptoms. I started being interested in philosophy this year, and I don't know why or when, but I started feeling like nothing was worth it. I know that Earth and humanity is less than a grain of sand compared to how vast the universe is. I really wanted to put effort into learning so I could help people when I'm older, but I just feel everything is meaningless. My brain keeps telling me "everything you do and know is going to fade into oblivion eventually, so why do it?" Sometimes I don't find any sense in living, in feeling, in caring, but at the same time I'm terrified of death. Sometimes I even ask myself if it is worth it to be a good person. I shelter myself in the isolation and loneliness of my room, it helps me forget that my friends are out there living their adolescence how they should while I am here. I wish I could be a normal teenager, I'm scared of wasting this time of my life. I know they care about me, but I don't know why I always feel so alone and disconnected from them. I just don't have any motivation into doing the things I love anymore. It has gotten a lot better, I'm not feeking depressed anymore, but I just feel numb, I still feel like I have no meaning nor reason to be here.
Wow, I can relate so much with your words, experience, symptoms. The numbness, the lack of meaning of "living", disconnection, the fear that comes once in a while of feeling you're wasting your days. But I guess we're not as alone as we sometines think. We're not the only one feeling all of this.
@@MzAlvarezPR tysm, I kinda forgot I wrote this lol. I think what makes me feel so bad is the fact that everything I care about is "meaningless" and will eventually be forgotten. It scares me. My anxiety makes me think that my friends hate me and it makes everything worse. Everytime I hear something like "xyz is the best in the world at this" my brain just automatically goes and says "and? That's meaningless, humanity and the world is insignificant'' and I hate it. I used to feel extremely nihilistic everyday, and everytime I enjoyed spending time with somebody, I would tell myself "I don' t know what I'm going to do when this person dies" for absolutely no reason. I feel like I'm overcoming it, I'm getting early birthday gifts and I found a way to entertain myself playing with a friend everyday. I'm starting to feel something more than just a void. The thoughts still wander through my mind but I try to pay little attention to them and focus more on finishing dressing roblox pet than in having an existential crisis lol. I think the thing that affects me the most is the feeling of wasting my teenage years, its what still scares me the most, but maybe I can get rid of this fear as I get older. I really want to find the meaning of life, more specifically, the meaning of mine, but I guess I'll keep living until I find out or at least I'm at peace with the fact that I will never know.
@@Disgusting._.Semla127 Thank you Maria for sharing your journey with this. One curious thing about meaninglessness is that it helps us realize there's no inherit meaning to something, which gives us the freedom to find that meaning. It also means there's no 'right' thing we should be doing in our teenage years, as long as we find a source of joy through them, that's meaningful enough. Once we disidentify with our meaning-making thoughts, we can then start finding the meaning that feels true to us. I'm happy you've found something that brings you fun in roblox, it also helps us appreciate others find meaning in their own journeys with status games like the ones you mention of "XYZ being the best at etc..". Ultimately whatever path we find is the right one as long as it allows us to be compassionate towards ourselves and others. This is especially hard in the teenage years but it gets easier as we get older as long as we have a sincere desire to learn and be present. Take care :)
~M
Im 15, I play games all day and my only friends are on discord, I’m in your same position, I want to die but I wont kill myself because I believe that would be pointless.
Just to clarify, this doesn’t mean I’m danger to myself or to other people, I just lived in my head for too long, Im also not at careless as I’d like to be, its like my body is preventing me from believing in what I believe, like I’m talking here right now so thats proof I have some drive, but I don’t want that, I’d like to make no decisions and rot like my mind wants me too.
I'm going through this but I'm 33 I do feel disconnected as well from people now, its one of the hardest things to endure but I'm taking extra steps this time to cut off social media and fixing issues that need to be fixed health wise. also limiting time on video games and such. Trying to keep negative thoughts out and doing some searching through educating myself with videos and audio books. I HAD gone through this twice in the past and got through it, though not fully enough to have a somewhat normal life. It hit me like a sack of bricks around Christmas and it doesn't get easier. I lost my flow state it feels like and time has slowed down tremendously. I think I care too much about things and want things to be better everyone so that may be it. I had thoughts of what it would like to be "free" from this pain but I'd never do it. I feel most at peace late In the night when I'm very tired or sedated, I thought about drinking wine to settle nerves but not abuse just as a tool to help me stop trembling and focus. Benzos used to help me but I'm well aware of long term use. I have doctors appointment on the 24th and a long road ahead of me
Thankyou so much I feel relex this is I am seaching many times
The problem though is that there is no spirit to connect to. I tried for decades. Nothing ever mattered. I’d try to connect and there was nothing on the other end.
I try to be a part of community and find rejection.
💗🙏💗 Thank you!
Im 46 and just starting to learn that the practice of meditation & fasting can cure anything that ails a person. Practice the single eye , like Jesus taught , and your body will fill with light.
I totally relate to that… all the symptoms I have…….
Hey my man, thank you for this video. I’m going through this at the moment and it’s an extremely up and down process. I feel fine some days, then incredibly nihilistic the next, would you say that was your experience? I’m not very well versed in spirituality, but this is for sure a dark night of the soul, and it’s really difficult to believe sometimes that these nihilistic thoughts and beliefs will eventually subside, so I appreciate your insight into that, gives me hope for sure. Would you ultimately say you’re glad you went through it? Thanks!
I'm sorry to hear you're going through that. I remember stumbling onto a nihilistic perspective as well when I initially began questioning things. But at some point I realized that nihilism was limited, because it trapped you in a purely rational approach to reality without being open to something beyond the self/ego. If you deeply inquire as to what exactly your sense of self/ego identity is (are you your thoughts? body? desires? pleasure? or something beyond all that) then you realize even the nihilistic perspective is trapped in the minds circular logic but can't go beyond it. The only way out of that trap is to experience states of being free from mind, and that's what the spiritual journey is about. So yes, I do feel my life is better for it, but I also appreciate my nihilistic period to help me see the limitations of rationality. ~M
@@LonerWolf I appreciate the excellent insight my friend, thank you. That’s a very interesting and, I believe, correct way of approaching nihilism, in that it’s a belief that can only be explained by a mind that already has an extremely limited understanding of the complexities of the world that cannot be explained by anyone. Thank you for the excellent answer and taking the time to reply!
Thank you 😊
All 15. It’s been 22 years. Don’t know if I’ll ever overcome it
There is no soul loss.
Only the realization of being part of a stupid game that you were yanked out of nothingness to play forcefully.
And when you realise how stupid it all is, you get over it, then... Peace.
For many years I've had depression. I'm not sure where it fits as far as what this is talking about. I've had ADD all of my life and because I'm 62 it was never diagnosed by a psychiatrist. I was considered by my parents to be moody, and a very sensitive child. However I had an older brother who I looked up to who went to fight in the Vietnam War in 1964. This greatly disturbed me. My mother was always beside herself in fear of him dying on the battlefield and hardly ever available to me for support. She shut down. My brother came back paralyzed and that was probably worse. The result was that I blamed myself for all of this. This was part of the reason I developed depression. Perhaps any number of you have been diagnosed with ADD or Bi-Polar depression. Of course seek psychiatric help but complement it with developing your own spiritual journey. You need to develop a very personal relationship with either God or however you want to understand the cause of all things. However you do this, make it personal. You must be very intimately connected with this entity. I see the cause all all things as Great Mother, Mother Earth (for she is definitely alive and more than a planet) or FatherMother God, or Goddess. It doesn't matter but develop a relationship of trust with this BEING and stop thinking that you can get through life all by yourself. That's a lie. Whoever you feel created the universe and multiverse it was this BEING who created all things. Shouldn't that being be the one you go to for help all of the time rather than falsely believing that all you need to do is, like the tough guy says, pull yourself up by the bootstraps. Don't believe that. It's the ego and though I don't believe in Sin, if there is one it's thinking that you created yourself and can do it all on your own. Don't be pig-headed. Try to be humble for once and ask for help but first start trusting yourself, your intuition whether you're a man or a woman, and let your solar plexus and the center of your brain, where your connection to God resides, connect you via the Universal Calibration Lattice (The Force) to The ALL. Peace to you all.
Damn im or sure but you lowkey giving me something to smile bout again
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I'm 15 and I've recently started thinking about this it makes me feel alienated and I've lost interest in things I did b4 bcz they all seem pointless now 😓😓
I'm sorry to hear that. One important aspect of this experience is that it doesn't stay a crisis for ever, if you explore the rest of our work, the 'purposeless' of things isn't a bad thing (though it may feel like it when you first experience it.) When we do something for a purpose, we forget to enjoy the very thing we're doing. If music's purpose was to reach the last note, the most successful musicians would be the ones that make the shortest songs. Instead, it's the journey of listening to the music (without much purpose other than enjoying it) in the same way it's the journey of life and its everyday experiences rather than some purpose at the end of it. I hope that makes sense.
~M
@@LonerWolf yes thanks
I dont know anymore..
I feel with Bipolar 1 I am all this and more as not only have I inherited BP1 from my Bipolar 2 mum without it skipping a generation, also I am a creative and have inherited musical ear and artist. As a sensitive I have also inherited the psychic " something" that my psychiatrist said we must go carefully with. I have since found I'm a level 2 sensitive and can do scrying? The ancient art of prophecy, using reflective surfaces. Dare not do mirror scrying so as to not let darkness in. The candle scrying was already scary. Too detailed to describe here. Catholic priest was very interested. My mom was youngest of 3 sisters and then a whole lot of half sisters & brothers. Her oldest blood sister could foretell if someone in the family is going to die. I begged God as a baby never to see ghosts. I do have weird black & white dreams which are visions I believe. Im drawn to Islam since 2018 because I fell in love with Yusuf Islams music since 10 yrs at pony camps. Few people will accept if I reverted except my son & daughter. In South Africa, Cape Town particular, it is easy to be born into Islam if Cape Malay descendant. From the slaves that Dutch east India company brought when Cape Town was half way station. But for now than you Luna & Sol for your newsletter and guidance. Loner wolf is so open . minded, genuine and space for everything mystic in this universe. Religions in the end are based on foundations of the mystic. I can also smellAngels. A sudden inexplicable sweet scent in the sinuses that I wish I could hang onto. Im Pisces Woman in every sense. THERE IS MORE TO HEAVEN AND EARTH THAN OUR MINDS CAN EVER UNLOCK...? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🔮👻🌈🧞♂️🤲🏻
I could relate strongly nearly with all these signs, but i'm not sure if the problem can be fixed,
I think the only depression that make sense is existential depression,
I've been suffering form emptiness for every day for the last tow years
and every time i try to reach something i comeback again to the same conclusion and the same answer
and I've reached that answer my my hole life as long as i can remember , now i'm think that i'm just trying to escape from it that hole time
because i don't want to deal with the questions that come after
I struggled for a while we a lot of the existential questions that bring about angst and depression. For me, one of the most liberating discoveries was that basic existentialism and questions around, make the proposition that life is suffering but unlike the Eastern baths, they never go further than that to question the nature of the Thinker that is thinking these topics. That basic assumption, that we are an "I" that is separate from the world is at the root of most of the issues around existentialism.
We can't answer the question with the mind, with our thinking, the same thinking that caused the problem. This is why meditation or any other tool that frees us from the tyranny of our thoughts is so valuable.
All the best.
~M
I just came across your video and I am glad I did. I have been trying to put a name to what I have been experiencing. The feeling is something I cannot describe but it is a mixture of feeling lost, hopeless, lonely and alone, absent, anxious, and numb. I feel like everything is meaningless, worthless: things I love, family, friends,... I am in a state where I question the existence of God, death, my own existence. I sometimes wonder if this is all a dream? an illusion? I have asked myself numerous questions about life to the point that I sometimes don't want to think anymore. The result of this feeling is generally me feeling defeated, not wanting to live so the pain and anxiety would stop. Would you describe this as existential depression? I feel like it might be worse but that could be my anxiety speaking.
I'm sorry you're going through that Noura. Yes I would describe it as an existential crisis of sorts but 'labels' are very limiting as qualities of one experience labelled 'existential crisis' can be similar to qualities of another experience labelled 'ego death'. We explore the stages of that here: lonerwolf.com/ego-death/ if you want to learn more and how to navigate it. Wishing you well 💜 ~ M
@@LonerWolf Thanks a lot for your reply, I will check the video out. Wish you all the best as well!
Please help.
I had found a purpose. I have chronic anxiety. I was trying to work towards my purpose but with anxiety it is really hard. I have been in depression with suicidal contemplation for more than a year now. it gets very strange As I do not want to feel happiness either. It is just that my journey to find happiness has been so painful that I now don't want to feel anything. I now want death that leads to absolute nothingness. I have been fighting these feelings for my parents, but nothing in life attracts me. I have depression that is because of my failures, hopelessness, anxieties, etc. Over that I have been feeling EVERY SINGLE symptoms of existential depression as stated in tyour video. Kindly, please please give me some articles, videos, books to read and see that might help me. Please
Please
I'm sorry to hear of what you're going through Vishal. Our whole website is full of useful content that can help guide you, this is a good place to start: lonerwolf.com/facing-the-darkness/. But the moment you're contemplating suicide, I suggest you find a local therapist to work with. The kind of on going support necessary to navigate those difficult periods is beyond what is possible to provide in this online medium. Know that there's always a light at the end of the dark nights, and always support spaces willing to provide us with a gentle ear and guidance. I send you warm brother.
~M
Thanks brother
Existential depression is not a mental illness, nor a philosophy, nor a sensitive personality, nor high intellectual abilities, but the truth QURAN(22-68)(31-30)
Thank you
Existential depression is not a mental illness, nor a philosophy, nor a sensitive personality, nor high intellectual abilities, but the truth QURAN(22-68)(31-30)
Why is it slow even on 2x speed? 🙄
Existential depression is not a mental illness, nor a philosophy, nor a sensitive personality, nor high intellectual abilities, but the truth QURAN(22-68)(31-30)
It started when I was fifteen and it's extremely difficult to handle. I don't really know what I live for and what is the purpose of being exist on a planet that's located in an isolated region in the universe, I wanted to meet God and understand what's the reason beyond the chaos in this exotic realm of existence. Now that I'm sixteen I'm probably gonna live like that for the rest of my life. I have no friends at all and all what remained to me is art and books of philosophy and psychology. Humans don't actually understand what's going on in the deepest abysses of myself, to just stay away from humans is only evidence that I don't need them anymore.. it's all absurd
I dont know if i have this because i kept thinking this is just a word.
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Omw I have all of these symptoms.... I just always thought its because I dont like humans, and had so many trauma's in my life....
Wow… 14/15 and the only reason I don’t wanna kill myself is I have no idea that happens after death and I’m horrible scared of it…
I'm absolutely sure I had an existential crisis at the age of approximately seventeen (sixty years ago) with subsequent existential depression for the next thirteen years.
I am a Highly Sensitive Person, an empath, and a Myers-Briggs INFJ personality type, and was simply unable to accept the violence in the world (learning of the Holocaust and the nuclear attack on Japan were emotionally traumatic for me). I decided not to have children.
I was only able to overcome these shocks to my senses by aggressively pursuing my mental/emotional healing through reading, counseling, and ultimately finding the truth about life and God, and now that I understand the reasons for the human condition, I am eagerly looking forward to a perfect eternity in "Heaven".
I'm 15 and I've recently started thinking about this it makes me feel alienated and I've lost interest in things I did b4 bcz they all seem pointless now 😓😓
intp here
@@arsh0189 hi dude, I'm 14, I also feel the same, I feel nauseous and my only escape is social media. Ive just started having these from about less than a week ago
isnt no. 3 like a general feeling? i wouldnt say i have any type of depression, but i cant put into words how much i hate this giant dirtball and the people that inhabitate it. i truly detest society and the human nature
I wouldn't think it's a general feeling, the deeper we go into this journey the more we start replacing that feeling described for a more compassionate one, realizing there's no such thing as 'society', it's just a word for groups of individuals and each individual carries with them many wounds, and much growth to explore. It's only by seeing ourselves as part of this circus that we can break a division of 'me' and 'it'. I think that's the main difference between philosophers and spiritual seekers, the seekers are trying to go beyond the mental divisions that come from being a critique at a distance removed from the unified experience.
~M
We’re all suffering, some know it, some don’t. Those that realize it, and want resolve, start the journey. Until we stop looking outside ourselves for answers (or blame), then the journey is rocky at best. For me, it was a load off me and then I could begin to be me, discover and love me. Have more joy in life and more compassion for others. It’s not the end of the journey, just another turn with open heart. I’m so glad to have found Lonerwolf on my way. I am always learning, understanding and exploring new ways to grow. “Let not your heart be burdened” and may you all be encouraged, including me!
@@michelec3741 Thank you Michele, for walking this path, for sharing your wisdom, we all are in this together in helping each other back home. :)
~M
Found the channel ,mails went to spam :-/,anyway thank you for the note and yes I want to stay :-D
Happens with some providers, be sure to add our email address to your contact list to avoid future spam problems :)
~M
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2015 I got in to my first ever relationship (at the age of 22), went broke and started smoking hash. A really fucked combination, been depressed for 6 years now (Stopped smoking 2019). Fun times, fun times..
I'm sorry to hear that Selena, sending supportive hugs your way. The more time I'm on this journey the more I realize those especially turbulent periods end up playing important roles, or pieces of the puzzle that we only fully understand the more time and distance that passes by and the bigger the full picture of our life becomes. 💜
~M
@@LonerWolf thank you for that 😊
well damn all the above
Man, except for a couple, this is me
Have most of these signs, I've gone through dp/dr and gotten out of it in 2014. Around 29th birthday I had existential crisis going into a rabbit hole about god/freewill/meaning watched a lot of space science videos. After Christmas 2022 it hit me pretty hard for some reason, having a lot of anxiety and haven't been eating much its difficult to get up and do things but taking tiny steps by going to the doctors and cutting off social media. My mind is desperate for answers and move on so easily. it's very hard to accept. When I come to a "conclusion" my mind generalizes and trivializes everything based on what I've learned its usually very negative. When I try to be optimistic my mind tells me it's just a cope etc. I was brought up In a Catholic school, so I started having doubts moving away from my faith growing up. I try to stay mindful that the universe is so infinitely complex I cannot generalize or justify everything based on what we know because it's theories based on mathematics. theories because the deeper you go the less sense it makes, how nothing can create everything. I try to keep an open mind to any possibility not to cope but it's what I truly believe. The thought of no "afterlife" or ascension to a higher plane is scary but also the thought of it Is also kind of scary. I also thought if it is true you probably wouldn't have those negative emotions there, you'd just be free of all those burdens. I keep everything on the table and put other people's faiths into consideration, myself as a mortal cannot say "it just was the big bang" it's unfair to say that.
I'm im feeling this hard n Idk
@@Whoiisteezybo you'll get through it man! what I did was educate myself more and take things with a grain of salt, don't try to come to a certain conclusion yourself. Be more open minded about things , read more into what bothers you but don't come to an absolute because life is too complex and crazy, you'll get through it for real.
thats the thing though. I'm always tryna educate myself but I don't know what to believe anymore. Even our perception of the way we see shit is little asf. Sometimes I be smoking myself to sleep because i cant sleep on my own.
12/15
Well fuck me that made a lot of sense.
I'll see your 15 and raise you 20...
You have your own CZcams page?! What else don't I know?! :o
I eat sandwhiches with peanut butter and banana which are amazing 😊
~M
@@LonerWolf never tried it but I've had ice cream like that from Hagen daz if that counts >.>
What a cool thread 😊 brought a smile to my face. Simple things.
Have all :/ ….. shiiit. But #8 is a key one for me, so many “social gatherings” with my friends gf’s and wives feel dreadful because of the lack of anything interesting to talk about other than vain self interested “keeping up with the Jones’ and dick measuring” shit, and having nothing interesting, funny or controversial to say because they wouldn’t like it and don’t have the ability to have a hard opinion that doesn’t tow the line.. or the ability to laugh about it… maybe why I’m drawn to people that would typically be seen as a little weird and fucked up, if that makes any sense.
"maybe why I’m drawn to people that would typically be seen as a little weird and fucked up, if that makes any sense." I'm glad this channel feels welcoming 😄💜
This is an asumtion
Do you find it common to suffer existential depression after discovering the prevalence and outcomes of narcissistic and psychopathic abuse and control upon the world at large? A “common evil” if you will.
Any experience that causes a crisis of some sort can become a doorway into a paradigm shift in how we perceive the world and in so doing bring about an existential mourning of the old worldview that was lost. ~M
God bless you!
Existential depression is not a mental illness, nor a philosophy, nor a sensitive personality, nor high intellectual abilities, but the truth QURAN(22-68)(31-30)
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Existential depression is not a mental illness, nor a philosophy, nor a sensitive personality, nor high intellectual abilities, but the truth QURAN(22-68)(31-30)
@@elhoucineamrani3343 i know. I am ' diagnosed bipolar1' this feels different i cry over the world, loosing Friends m seeing society as IT is. A lifted vale..
Infp, Scorpio lifepath 11
@@moniquelageweg1111 But my brother, do you see that you are right or you are sick
@@elhoucineamrani3343 i guess i am right. Hard time, Lets cry some more. I see the world for how iT functions. Being almost alone for 2 months. Mostly me and my dog. Enormous anxiety. Suïcidale thoughts.. i hope all my trauma's Will be burnt out
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I see it's lying label this case a disease
do you agree with me
Every single symtopm listed I have. Problem is, my existential depression was linked to the realisation that there is no god, no spiritual realms, nor anything beyond the real world. Eveyrthing else is a fantasy derived from myth which itself is used as a method of alleviating this very problem.
Using words like 'soul' and 'divine' demonstrates you are not grounded and haven't actually delved into the depths of this matter. you gave up nad acepted a delusion. This does not work for me. I have tried all delusions, all meditation forms, explored almost all philosophies, tried them out, lived them.
Nothing makes a difference because fundamentally, life is without meaning and ends when you die. It's that simple and all this fancy wording about souls and spirits is just ways of adding mist to the concept to make it mysterious and thus, interesting.
It's not. It's dull, cold and lifeless. Welcome to the real world. The place I can't escape.
I'm sorry to hear you have such a nihilistic view of this journey. As someone who enjoys philosophy, you've probably come across epistemology which is the inquiry into how we define 'truth'. From logical truth arrived at through philosophical inquiries, to empirical truth of science, to pragmatic truths of focusing on what gets us to a goal instead of what is 'right'.
In this regard, you have existentialists like Sarte who claim life is suffering. And then people like Buddha who inquired deeper, and questioned the 'self' that is suffering. Two valid truths, but they come from entirely different places. One is cerebral, the other is on what we'd call (in magical language as you put it) 'spiritual'. What you describe as 'nothingness' the mystics call 'emptiness' yet it's a cause for celebration or joy, because we're free from the burden of the self. The self seeks 'meaning' of understanding why they are here, the self-less, celebrates no inherent meaning because it gives us the freedom to make each moment meaningful, rather than focus on some 'ordained' end destination that would come with knowing the 'meaning of life'. Simpler put, it's about the journey and not the destination.
~M
@@LonerWolf I reject the dilution of the word truth to justify lack of enquiry and acceptance of conclusion. If something is true, it's true. If it's not true, you can't twist your interpretations to make it true. It merely becomes a matter of adjustment factors and perceptive angles. That's not ultmately truth, it's half true.
It's quite contrary to 'lack of inquiry'. It's inquiring deeper into 'what exactly we're using as our definition of truth?' (they very act of inquiry) to judge whether something is true or not.
If the definition of truth you're presenting results with what you've discovered of a 'meaningless existence', and the spiritual teachers of each path, present a truth that provides us with 'freedom from suffering' (Buddha) or the 'Kingdom of Heaven within' (Jesus), Moksha etc.. then I'd reflect what they're pointing at as truth, and what I've discovered, and see where the discrepancies are.
But I'm not in the endless philosophical debating semantics business. We're focused on the experiential mystical path. If someone comes and says ''they've gone deeper than the great teachers and realized there's nothing'' then I'd question whether it's either 1) they're looking in the wrong place 2) an ego trip, or both.
~M
Existential depression is not a mental illness, nor a philosophy, nor a sensitive personality, nor high intellectual abilities, but the truth QURAN(22-68)(31-30)
I don't believe in a soul. I am too rational for that BS, and that is my problem.
The amount of clarity, insight, and understanding I gained from watching this video is incredible. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and experience. 🤍
Glad it was helpful Alexandra, it means a lot to us hearing that 💜😊 ~M
I will paste a note from my phone and please read it and tell me what you think
Exisitential questions to the point where I do not even know what all this is? Like I do not comprehend anything that when doing nothing my brain still hurts (itchy feeling inside the head) also EXTREME confusion about anything and everything you could imagine (along with waves of anxiety) , it's the best I could do to describe it. It feels like it can never be unnoticed it also feels like I'm the only ever person to have this feeling. It feels like if I talked to god himself I would still be confused (can't snap out of it). Unlike my other symptoms I don't think getting distracted will work. It's like my brain is frozen in a certain confused state. It's searching for questions to be asked not answers to be found. Add to that , that I never feel comfortable in any position or activity. Like if I'm sitting I wanna stand and if I'm standing I wanna sit. I feel like my brain refuses the idea of reality. my best bet that it's just depression as atleast I know what it is.
Notes : I have been suffering from anxiety , ocd , derelization and depression for the last 3 months
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