Andretti Receives UNEXPECTED Support For 11th F1 Team!
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- Andretti is slowly but surely starting to gain the sympathy of the F1 team principals, and it seems like the last one was kind of the most unexpected one on the grid! McLaren has expressed its positive thoughts about Andretti joining the grid, and while many think that the collaboration between the Woking-based team and the IndyCar competition does have a lot to do with this, the view from Brown is quite different. After Brown’s statement, was this the ‘last straw’ for the FOM to let Andretti in-and if not, what would be the biggest hurdle, according to one of the high-profile F1 business experts, that would ‘guarantee’ a deny of application for Andretti?
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Gunther just doesn't want to finish 11th in the constructors
not only that, imagine him losing most of the team's fans to Andretti. 10th out of 10 or 11th out of 11 not much of a difference. only American team or 2nd American team and not truly American, huge difference.
I was going to type that exact comment in.. lol
No kidding Gunther needs to go I've stopped cheering for haas they don't spend the money or make the changes to improve
Andretti coming into F1 would be a great asset to F1. That would mean that America would finally have an American team, Haas is not a true American team they proved that many times. I truly hope Andretti gets in it will be a reason to watch F1 and be a part of the F1 tradition of great racing.
As an American Race fan, we all have our fingers crossed for Andretti/Cadillac. We will be supporting them hugely! P.S F Toto's cheating azz
and we need more driver seats
12 teams would be better, more excitement plus more chances for the rookies to get a seat. Let's go Andretti and one more whom ever that may be.
They want to keep their Billionaire boys club closed. What does Williams bring to the sport? History? If we look closely at that history what do we see? A team that showed up and qualified, headed by a man with genius ideas. Why does the shell of Williams and Haas and whatever A/R calls themselves worthy of a precious slot, but a legendary racing name with success across multiple racing disciplines does not? Hypocrites…..Toto doesn’t want another competitor they have to beat, they want the back markers to stay in the sport and stay in the back.
You are correct my friend, Toto does not want another team to try and beat. They liked racing from the front they don't want someone else to compete with them.
Zac Brown is 100% correct. I think part of it is the other teams may be afraid of what Andretti Racing can do long term maybe know a few teams off their high horses only one way to find out.
Bingo!...
Andretti-Cadillac will bring advancement to Formula 1 because it will augment the fan base. It's a no-brainer!
That’s exactly why the FIA approved them, it’s just a pity liberty media has decided to make it a pissing contest
The bring a new engine in F1.
I say welcome to Andretti.
I absolutely love the Cadillac in IMSA and would love to see them in F1
What new engin. The one that they have not yet built
Andretti brings a huge American audience nothing more needs to be said
I've been an F1 fan since 1963 when I started working for Alfa Romeo. I've seen teams come and go over that many years but this assumed problem that the FIA has with the Andretti Indy-Car team is unbelievable in my view. Like you show in your video, it comes down to the team principles and what they think about their position in the teams. They are all scared as hell as they should be.
If Mercedes had the strongest car on the grid toto would be singing a different tune and steiner is worried about finishing 11th instead of 10th in constructors lol
The FIA dont have a problem with it . Its F1 that does.
honestly dont think it is being scared of on track performance, it really is about money. I support the Andretti bid, and hope it comes off - i dont expect them to be winning for quite some time, but i dont think they will be back markers either. I would like to see their business model myself, as the argument that relying on prize money would be a good counter argument if it were true.
How is this unexpected, Zak Brown has been supportive since the original announcement over a year ago.
Not only that but they also run a Supercars team together..... Must be a DTS fan running this channel.
Gunther Steiner's and Toto Wolff's word are carry no weight as Gunther can't run a team and Toto is a miser. Yes there is inherent risk in adding Andretti to F1, but the reward is significantly greater making Andretti a solid investment for the series. What some are asking for is to have a cake and eat it too.
Yes I agree.... Toto is a wolf in sheep's skin. The irony of his name that is... I say let them in. The only backmarker is Gunther's team itself. There should be allowed to challenge the top team instead now they behave like bunch of cartels....
As an American I was thrilled when Haas started a team, but it has gone absolutely nowhere, and I would love to see Gene Haas sell his franchise to Andretti and be done with him...and Gunther
it would be so good for a new f1 team but i hope it wont be like other new teams that failed
I think part of the problem with Andretti getting in F1 is some of the other teams are afraid of Andretti winning ways. He & his family is are proven winners, will do what it takes to win
Of the "teams" Gallagher would like to see in F-1, which can bring a new power train to the field? Gallagher names teams from the past that failed Yet he would grant them a second shot? I see Gallagher as just another English snob who maintains his relivance by toeing the current party line in order to garner the occasional invitation to the Mercedes hospitality booth. Before things become mired in sand like the BEF at Dunkirk, teams reaping the benefits of 6 events in the Americas might want to come to understand the phrase "anti-trust law". You want the income from our fanbase, you can't then exclude us from participating in the game.
Right? Like if they want more fighting in front then they need to be like Indy, but that’s not this sport. It’s genuinely been era’s of domination by one team. It’s a piss poor take for sure. Like why have a rule to allow a new team, move goalposts as they are met, just to reject them?
Well said
Carlin failed in F2, failed in Indycar, how the hell would him try to enter F1?
Andretti will be a FACTORY TEAM with GM ENGINES!!!
What’s the hold up?!?
C’mon, F1, grow a pair and #LetAndrettiIn
Can the FOM explain why for years they have been paying out to teams the incorrect amount of money?
The Concorde agreement already allows for 12 teams so is it really so difficult to divide the pot by 12 and pay out 10/12ths of this pot to the 10 teams currently competing.
If this had happened all along then there would be no difference to the slice each team gets apart from it being based on the season end scoring position.
The team principles are against them because there is a real fear of Andretti outscoring most of the other teams in the races.
The other plus point of Andretti entering is there would be the chance to supply at least one other team with the GM engine.
I think for a while they only paid out to the top 10 teams in the finishing order. It was a dumb move that killed quite a few teams, otherwise there was potential for an 11th team to survive. Could still have Manor, or they could have been bought out.
In the 70s and early 80s, when we were kids racing our bikes around the neighborhood, we would shout “Mario Andretti!” the way people shout “Kobe” when they take a shot.
I’d love to see Andretti on the grid!
Us too, we'd scream "Slow down Andretti!" when we'd start getting wild behind the wheel. Flipping the air cleaner cover on those big American V8s made you feel like Mario.
Look at it this way, every series GM gets into, they eventually dominate. The other teams know this and are shaking in their boots
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😎🤣😂🤣😂
@@George246-zg1zw am I wrong? Prove it
how many series of global motor sport have they been in? They havnt done much in WEC - not that i hold that against them as they only been in it since 23, but still ... i don't think there is any quaking going on, it is all about money
i didnt think you could have an exclusive engine partnership anymore
Why not have 12 -14 teams in F1 and only let 20 cars that qualify make the show! If you don’t race, you get no money! This would make teams really competitive always trying to win, changing all things constantly trying to make sure they get the most money possible.
That does have historical precedence, based on the 1950s and 60s when drivers had to qualify to actually race in the Grand Prix, as there were many more entrants than cars permitted to run in the GP.
I think it's good to let a new team in that is not british or italian.
Especially if they develop their own car, and bring in a new engine manufacturer. Regarding this I'd rather see Andretti in F1 than a team like Haas.
More diversity in technical heritage is I think a good thing for the sport. Time must tell whether or not Andretti can launch a competitive car, but I think the amount they're willing to invest is impressive.
I'm also just curious if a team can pull it off to launch a somewhat competitive can and have no ties to either the british F1 microworld (most teams) or italian f1 microworld (ferrari)
HAAS is actually one of the major stumbling blocks and holdouts for Andretti Racing. They don't want to have another American team taking away any focus from them. Andretti threatens to make them irrelevant to the US market.
@@Fiasco3they already are irrelevant to the American market. Nothing about Haas screams American. There is also some holdover resentment about a so-called American team running a Russian oligarch’s son as a driver with that oligarch as a major sponsor.
If Gallagher is so against anyone competing in F1 that can’t challenge Red Bull then half the teams who are circling the track in the back half of the pack have no business competing in F1. They should be kicked out to make room for new teams that might be more competitive.
I see someone else saw it.
If memory serves, Adrian Newey designed Michael's first Indy Car back in the 80's. The Kraco branded car. So they need great drivers, great pit crew and frickin great car designer or they will be mid field. No worries, Mike can bring it together, I think he will have a rude awakening when it comes to the drivers, and the huge leap in profession they must have.
Colton Herta should do a year in Formula 3 or Super Formula before driving amongst the elite.
I hope they can come out swinging, but I think they have their work cut out for them.
Can Mario explain why Zak Brown isn't named Andretti even though it's clear that he's the twin brother of Michael?
If Andretti is smart he already has a 3D model in CFD testing for the car should he get approved. He's not in so there's no cost cap
There were eleven teams in F1 as recently as 2014. Hamilton, who won the title, Ricciardo, third, Alonso, Bottas, Hulkenberg, Magnussen and Perez were all racing in that season. Teams claiming is is "traditional" to have ten teams must have short memories. In 2012 there were twelve teams and again Hamilton, Ricciardo, Alonso, Perez and Hulkenberg were driving then. The prize money was different, but with the huge growth thanks to Netflix and the USA getting on board there should be plenty to share eleven ways. I think there is an element of greed and a little bit of fear involved in the thought processes of those who oppose an eleventh team.
The use of the phrase @traditional' is very misleading, actually (historically) it is much more traditional for teams to sell current and previous years F1 cars to other teams and individuals to run in F1 races along side the main teams.
Ferrari started out as a private team that bought and race tuned Alfa Romeo F1 cars.
Of course Zac Brown supports Andretti, his United Autosports business is in partnership with Andretti in various categories....(eg, Walkinshaw Andretti United in Supercars)
In the United States the name Mario Andretti means racing can an F1 IndyCar and all other forms of racing Andretti means racing and it would do nothing but help F1 and this is coming from a guy who lives in Las Vegas and understands racing very very well been around for over 45 years
I want Andretti in the sport and I would like to see them be better then at least half the teams on the first few years working up to the top end
We in America know the Andretti name, and with the sky-high interest in F1 already growing, I'm confident that the Andretti name will expand the base like a rocket ship. The average anttendence increase for the 3 USA races would be almost unmanageable, say in the 750K weekend attendance. Yes, IMHO it will be that much more to have the Andretti name.
Let'em in!
I still in love with Andretti. So let's Michael Andretti be sucessful in Formula-1 like he has been in Formula-E with the champion: Jake Dennis.🏁👍🇺🇸🤝
No surprise that Zac Brown /McLaren is slightly more positive about Andretti than the other team bosses they have history together. Michael's attitude/persona doesn't help his case , his father Mario's charm would have brought them on much better therms with the other teams. A all American line up is a nice touch but how many American drivers have enough license points to be allowed in F1 ? ( Hertha didn't have enough to be in F1 this season)
I was just thinking about that when I happened upon your comment. Michael has always been a fierce competitor, but often times an angry one as well. Mario is much more laid back, and as you said, charming. Something needs to be done to help Michael calm down a bit, and not be a bull in a China shop 100% of the time.
@@section8usmc53 Mario wasn't too charming at an 80's FFord Runoff at Road Atlanta. He was held back from attacking a guy he felt made one to many front straight blocking moves on Michael.
The talk about Zak Brown blocking Andretti is quiet unusual as they both have a stake in WAU is supercars in Australia, I find this hard to believe
As an American who has watched Andretti Autosport grow, his business model is not to be a back marker and collect prize money. He invests a lot to win. In Rallycross, he’s funded a top notch team. In IndyCar, it’s a top destination for drivers looking to win races and compete for a championship. IMSA Sports Car racing is similar with his Acura powered team. He’s even dabbled in Motocross and had some success. I don’t think this is about money. I think this is also Michael proving what he couldn’t do when he drove in F1, and that’s to win. I also don’t think GM would jump on board to be a back marker, especially knowing Ford has partnered with Red Bull. I also see Andretti being another bridge gap between F1 and IndyCar, something IndyCar needs more of. Andretti, in a very roundabout way, and invested in a NASCAR team, Spire Motorsports, which is putting the pieces together to be a competitive team. Gainbridge is an investment company that’s invested a ton in Andretti. Gainbridge has essentially purchased a large portion of Spire Motorsports, which I see as a very roundabout way for Andretti to get into NASCAR and wouldn’t surprise me if in a few years Spire is rebranded to Andretti. I think it’s good for Motorsport.
I hope Andretti will get in. Of course they will have a steep learning curve dealing with the F1 BS. Cadillac will need to pull all the engineering knowledge from GM in order to get a competitive engine package. Look at Honda's return with McLaren. I hope they get it figured out quickly.
Means stuff all, they're tied up in Australian supercars Walkinshaw Andretti United
The racing fan base in America is enormous and we would absolutely love to see a serious American team with top American drivers in F1. Until that happens, I will continue rooting for Max to tear out Toto's heart.
We're Behind the Andretti & Cadillac F1 Team 1000% LET'S GO!!!!!! Andretti/Cadillac should go on a Marketing Blitz w/F1 Cars hitting the Streets in a bunch of Cities Across the United States, like a CZcams Documentary . . . Hate to Say it, but Just like Red Bull does w/their Videos, Admittedly, Epic Awesomeness!!!
The frigging greed of FOM is amazing.
Absolutely believe adding an additional team is a positive aspect…. Increasing an audience the size of North America can only be a boost I’ve influx of funding.
Just FYI Zak is not team principal of McLaren. He is the CEO of McLaren Racing, while Andrea Stella is the actual TP of McLaren.
I have hung around a few indycar drivers. They have stated that F1 does not like Americans. Sad that they want to close out the biggest market in the world for that reason. The Andretti's are world class. The current batch of F1 teams are afraid of a slight chance of having additional competition.
My history of F1 goes back to the late 60's and I have been an ardent fan up to this year. I quit F1 for good this year regardless of the Andretti entry primarily due to the influence of celebrity and money. The amount of attention given to the stars and their megabucks makes we sick. I also have had enough of the lack of competition and hubris of the team principals. Not letting them in only makes me more resolved in never watching F1 again.
Who're you kidding.I'd bet you still watch F1. No one ever falls out of love with F1.When they dead,sure.
Of course Cadillac and Andretti are going to grow the pie. Frankly, the fact that the F1 teams are hesitating is crazy. There could be 2 or 3 American teams and F1 will only keep growing. It’s wild that this is even a question.
I dont know why the slice of the pie matters, it was only 2021 when the cost cap was introduced, before this teams were spending alot more money at a time when the sport was nowhere near as popular as it is now!
The team principals need to pull their head out and get on board. They don’t want more competition, in their little club with an established pecking order.
I used to support HAAS as an American team but not now, especially with Gunther’s attitude about Andretti. Andretti/Cadillac would create considerably more US interest and grow the pot! F1 is certainly not the premier class in racing if they will not accept new competition and just want to play with their current friends!
Please bring Andretti!!!
I know it’s near impossible but we need to bring in better advertisings maybe even PGA!
It's hard to believe that as popular as F1 has become in the US that we don't have an American team. We have Haas, but other than an American owner there isn't much American about that team
I swear Zak Brown in the thumbnail looks like Andretti's twin brother 💀
#Freedom GM Andretti F1Team Cadillac !!! ... Share please ! ... ....
With Andretti as a partner in the IndyCar team, why wouldn't McLaren support Andretti in F1? He will bring many US fans and sponsors to the sport, plus Cadillac/GM.
Zero to no knowledge? Mario is an F1 Champion. They have all sorts of connections in f1.
I’ve been looking for a reason to pay more attention to F1 but I just don’t get the idea of a competitive sport that doesn’t want competition.
I wouldnt be suprised if mclaren runs the Cadillac engine, they already run a gm (chevy) engine in indycar
I'd love to see Andretti in F1. But currently, there appears to be a fight brewing over control of the F1 sport. FIA has been accused ot overstepping its bounds where F1 is concerned, and Andretti Motorsports' F1 application appears being used by F1 teams as an example of FIA's overstepping its boundries. F1 owner Liberty Media, and the head of FIA Mohammed Ben Sulayem, appear to be drawing battle lines for some kind of future conflict. I just hope whatever power struggle happens doesn't blowup F1.
I suspect another issue is other teams do not like the idea of American drivers. yes, I know there is Logan Sargeant, but Andretti wants American drivers and that does not help the other teams who have lots of F2 graduates who need a ride. I also suspect there is some European snobbery at play here. it is foolish for the other teams to try to block Andretti and especially Cadillac. I think it is pretty much a sure thing that Andretti will add value.
So many of the current team principles want American money without bringing in American racers, and I get the feeling some of the smaller teams are worried about getting pushed further down the pecking order.
I would think it would be rather simple to have Andretti partner with say Carlin to bring drivers up, or do what other constructors do and come up with a nebulous drivers academy and have them partner with teams that way.
Name me an American driver who is definite F1 level that has a super license and is young enough to take on F1 now. Indycar is full of non American drivers and I watch Indycar.
If they existed the F1 teams would be giving them tests.
F1 is not about the nationality of teams . The stars are not the teams its the drivers. Thats why fans go to races. They dont go to see Ferrari win they go to see LeClerc win. Top F1 teams have the best drivers . They are never employed based on their nationality.
While I think this Gallagher dude raises some interesting point to take note of, It makes me cringe that he's even been asked for his opinion.
Andretti, has the desire and passion, proved with the pushing past the obvious walls F1 has put up. They've got GM involved, got a great sporting history, got money.
I mean as a fan, that's what we want.
The other teams, that this dude mentioned, haven't put a determined bid in. So they're not even in the same bracket right now.
Andretti will be in F1, Zak knows this and isn't burning the bridge when they need an American principle.
Who would ever listen to Steiner? The man can't even play golf! the real question is, what are they afraid of? That Micheal will come in and wax their tails?
Why is this unexpected? Zak has always been the lone supporter (aside from Alpine b/c of now expired engine deal).
It was implied that Zak/McLaren were coerced to follow suit by the other teams. Hence his ambivalence at the middle of this season.
If Andretti Cadillac is to enter formula one, then the team and one of it’s drivers NEED to be in a Title fight in the range of three years of entering
Aussie here, F1 team bosses are a mob of sooks, get over it!
If the F1 teams reject this application, they won't have to worry about "growing revenues" because the backlash against F1 in N.A. will see major economic push back by fans, and possibly legal "anti competition" court challenges. Vegas is all ready on pretty thin ice for income looking out three years & I't won't take much for locals to throw up roadblcks (couldn't resist!) at city council.
Why is Vegas' revenue looking thin over the next few years? Genuine curiosity about something I have no knowledge of, no smartassery is intended or implied.
@@kevykevTPA The first event was a bit of a dog's breakfast, ridiculous hours, chucking people out of their paid seats, and of course destroying one Ferrari & one Alpine due to incompetence pre-race. Novelty interest in the first runnning will naturally drop off and get bored. Liberty is on the hook for promoting this race, so any losses for all of the construction of facilities, track set -up (and the bill they will be getting from Ferrari), and race operation. They already had to drop ticket prices FOR THIS RACE, as the up-take was not what they expected (dreamed of)
@@netgenrb I read somewhere that seats across from pit lane were going for $15,000 and up... That's face value, not scalper, according to whoever wrote it. No idea if it's true, but it damn sure sounds believable, but I wouldn't even consider going. With all the nonsense about visually blocking off overpasses and the like, absolutely anti-consumer bullshit. I can buy my own car for what it would cost to go!
The F1 teams bosses are apparently more selfish than team drivers who don’t deny incoming talent. Not accepting an American Motorsport icon with open arms is a complete shame.
More cars more exciting
No risk no reward
More pie for everyone!
I don’t think the teams should have a say personally, the fia are looking for an 11th team they’ve found said team end of. Ohhh but prize money, sorry but the only financially unstable team on the grid is hass and they want out anyway, merc can jog on, we suffered 7 years of total merc domination and now they’re suddenly worried about not having enough money?? Come on. At the end of the day Andretti will only add to the sport, they’re a team that even the most casual of American racing fans know and are incredibly successful, as a Brit to me if you want to expand the American market and the exposure of the sport over there is by having a big American name simple.
I wish RB would sell Alpha Tauri to Andretti.
is redbull switching to ford power?
Yes Red Bull Ford in 2026
It's a bit hypocritical when you say a team ticking all the boxes like Andretti can't enter F1, but Audi can anytime they like by buying a team Andretti was refused.
Mark Gallagher must be the lawyer for Lawrence Stroll
The team principals are greedy bastards and most are afraid that Andretti would show them up on track. I think that having more teams would make for a more interesting race season. And if the FIA wants more American money, they should allow for an American team to compete
The team principals need to fixate less on Andretti and more on catching Red Bull. Max completely stunk up the entire F1 season. The championship was over after race 4.
I think Kia should also be in
I think Andretti will be an absolute asset to F1. Wolfe and the other “greedy” team principals are worried about being knocked down a peg or 2.
Competition is always good for a sport!
There needs to be a bigger shake up to F1 than just adding a new team. Add more races but run the championship over 20. The teams can choose which 20 they enter (to suit their car). You could then accomodate 14 - 16 teams, giving more driving positions for F2 winners. It could also extend the battle of the championship to the last race.
I mean.. what does Haas bring to F1, other than Gunthers presence in D2S, and some funny statements in interviews... Not much I'd say.
HAASliraous 😂😂😂😂 Gunther you don't even make your own chassis/tub you buy it from Dallara as well as all the available suspension parts from Ferrari your engine supplier !! Andretti is going to build its own car and GM Cadillac will be powering it from 2028 onward !!The FIA wont allow GM in sooner cause of its 4yr notice of intent rule !!
American here. I’m an F1 fan and I really don’t care about nationality. So, my comments could be for any team trying to enter. First off, the current owners are your typical old white guys at a private club, entitled snobs who think only they know how to race and run a business.
I love Steiner but he’s a major hypocrite if you know how he leveraged the rules to get his team in. His owner is a convicted felon and he is also being investigated for violating US Export laws. That’s a great look for F1. After Steiner exploited the rules, FIA changed everything as a result, making it harder for another team to enter.
I Used to respect Toto until I realized that he’s an arrogant, entitled, and a huge cry baby. He didn’t build a team. He bought Team Braun after they won the championship. There is only 4 competitive teams on the grid right now and that’s the way Merc, Red Bull, and Ferrari want it. The other 6 teams aren’t and won’t be competitive anytime soon. So, these teams are more afraid of a well financed team with owners that do have F1 DNA along with a racing pedigree. This represents the possibility of real competition, which they don’t want.
Apparently, They’ve not even taken the time to read Andrettis’s proposal and yet they are against it. What kind of business man rejects a proposal before reading it? Now, an American company, Netflix, created an F1 show that drove the popularity of the sport way up along with dollars and two more races added to the schedule. That also adds more money. And yet these entitled team principals/owners want to enjoy all the popularity and money and reject expanding the grid with an all American team. And before you say it, Haas is not an all American team even though the Italian born Steiner lives in the US.
What we are seeing is European snobbery at its best. I understand that America is like a Bull in a china shop. I’m not blind to her history and the money/power perception and reality that rubs people/countries the wrong way. However, this is a legitimate team and proposal that should be seriously considered and not rejected out of pocket like it is. I don’t care if an American driver is or isn’t on the grid and the same with a team. However, if these owners want the money that the American market brings, then an All American team is a necessity for long term fan participation and ratings and that equal big dollars. Flame away! 😀😀😀
All these European fanboys need to accept the fact that F1 is an American promotion now. These European fanboys need to cope and accept the fact that some of their most historic race teams are either owned by Americans or run by Americans and sponsored heavily by American entities. We have seen for the past few decades how the Europeans ran F1 i.e. scandal coverups, insider leaks, favoritism, "legacy money".... yeah all bullshit.... yall Europeans need to accept the fact that America is MAKING F1 GREAT AGAIN!!! 😂
Nice 😉👍🇺🇸
Why is everyone talking like Andretti is the only American team? The US already is represented by Haas!
And do people believe that either Andretti or Audi in 2026 will just arrive and win….kinda arrogant….!
If Brown believes this, why doesn't he sell to Andretti?
Greed Greed Greed , is the mantra of the maijor F1 teams , with wolfe at the top .
Steiner has no room to complain about Andretti not adding value to the sport. What value is HAAS adding? It doesn’t even seem like HAAS is trying to compete. Gene makes no appreciable investment to make the team more competitive. They’re just there… collecting sponsors money.
Haas is Cooked...😂
Andretti is not getting the sympathy of the F1 teams . I dont know where you get that from?
Zak Brown is not endorsing an Andretti entry. He has simply said the teams still dont know any detail about what the entry is and so they are waiting for Andretti to tell them before he can consider his position on it. Why over a year after announcing their intentions and months after the FIA agreed their basic submission from a governance point of view are the teams still waiting? If Zak is saying that and he is a friend of the Andretti family then its not looking good.
Why after Cadillac said they were backing the entry did they never say what that meant . It took them 9 months to announce they would make a new engine. It clearly was not their original intention and I dont think it is likely to happen. In 2 years market conditions will force them to drop the idea once the Andretti bid is over the line.
It talks about an American involvement in F1. The Americans own F1! Also if you look at F1 cars they are festooned with dozens of the biggest American corporations in sponsorship. if Andretti is going to attract all new sponsorship why does it struggle to do that in Indycar?
There is a big elephant in the room and that is this. F1 is gaining traction in the US without Andretti. If Andretti joins and then becomes a back marker and eventually pulls out that could undo all the good work so far done.
The American market is an important market but F1 is a world sport with big markets around the world and it must not sell its traditions and what make sit unique on the alter of the US. No "start your engines" please.
Things like this are the reason the best drivers in America don't even attempt to drive in F1.
Mercedes are going to have problems maintaining revenue as LH has become inconsistent in his performance. His heir apparent, George Russell, finished 8th in the drivers standings. Ferrari finished 3 points behind Mercedes in the constructors. Secondly Susie Wolff has shifted to the women’s F1 Academy, limiting her influence in FOM. Andretti Motorsports entry in 2025 into F1 is minor problem compared to everything else.
Why is it that when American teams get involved with something it has to be all or nothing with USA attaching itself to every level. We have F1 teams that have drivers, mechanics, HQ's and bosses from different parts of the world that make up one team. When Andretti gets his 11th slot, it will be ALL America, American driver, engine, HQ and mechanics! This is the kind isolationism that the sport does not need or want! It shouldn't be about a GB team versus a USA team versus an Italian team etc!!!
The Andretti team and the American public will treat is as USA against the rest of the world. For that reason that will A) Fail and B) Fail.
Andretti and Andretti organization have proven themselves to be contenders in all the racing series they're a part of. So with that and a strong financial plan and sponsors they should be allowed into F1. As an American race fan, I honestly couldn't give a rats ass what any of the teams' or drivers' nationalities are. I just want to see good racing.
It is all about money not racing.
If it was about racing you would have also cars like. Vw, toyota , nissan 3 off the biggest car companies in the world.
HAAS shouldn't even be considered an F1 team. Top F2 teams would be better than they are if they where in F1!
According to steiner Mario Andretti, 1978 f1 champion has " no knowledge of f1".
Just make it so that only the top ten teams get prize money. Then only Haas loses out.
F1 and the teams better watch how they handle the Andretti issue. Most US racing fans already think F1 is for stuck up European Elites and they will let you know.
The white elephant in the room isn't the money, but the "brain drain" of other teams. Andretti won't be just an 11th team in the money pie, but an 11th team in the technical know-how pie. Andretti will attract young engineers, mechanics, and analysts from other teams looking for opportunities to move up the ladder. This could be why they are ok with him buying a current team. Andretti "knows" F1 it's silly to state otherwise, but the last thing they want is for Andretti to take away their young and old experience talent.
Toto is a winner and complains of everything when he isn’t winning and Gunter is just afraid of dropping Haas from 10th to 11th in the constructors championship 😂
The FIA will never truely crack the U.S market unless there is a fully home grown all USA team . This is polotic's again .one is the greedy European teams not wanting to share anything from their part of the revenue fund from F1's profits.
Also maybe some push back from those in the background with indy cart or whatever it is called now. I myself would not like to see Lotus back or Brabham they were great teams in the day , but there more to a team than just a name Lotus was never the same after losing it heart and soul and fonder Colin Chapman . Nore would Brabham be again more than a brand name without a Gordon Murry both teams had design genius's at there core.
But Andretti needed to be well equiped and with the best people he can find .anything else would be a disastor . I am sure if they bring enough money to the table there will not be an issue, in a sport that is driven by greed .I have not personlly enjoyed the sport since 2000. You can still have good racing even if you have one team winner a large part of the races. I just find the whole operation bad
All about ego's and flaunting wealth. Something need to change maybe Andretti can bring some life back into this sport.
What's a "Steiner"?