Crazy the culture these cars bring! Always thought they were kind of different back in the 80's because the other guys had rwd performance cars, they didn't. Very unique cars.
I love Curtis’ car! I talk to him at Chryslers at Carlisle every year. Wish I had brought my SRT swapped wagon out. Also, that v6 is a SOHC 6g72! Great Depression racing on here went 11’s years ago with an HY35 and an FMU in an acclaim with a stock 6g72
I do not know much about these cars but wow they are bringing back the memories! Back in the early 90’s my friend took me for a drive in his little Daytona and it was actually really quick.
WOOT! My Masi is semi-famous! LOL My very good friend Ondonti (aka Great Depression Racing) has built a few 3.0 V6 turbo engines. His daily is one, he is building another for his wife, and his race car (Junkyard) is also one. First time I rode in it his daily was an eye opener! I helped him pull a 200+k mile junkyard engine out of a minivan...he gapped the rings, *re-used* the head gaskets, bolted on his turbo stuff and made 300whp with it on a questionable tune (was pushing coolant, but once he backed off the timing that engine kept going strong). That 3.0 is a stout engine. He was running a piggyback computer to pull timing and such along with a FMU, but has since gone with real engine management. Every time an engine went on him it was mostly due to tune or the FMU messing up (or driver not lifting when he should have) and NOT the engine mechanically giving up. He has hurt some feelings with his cars...something about a 12-second Spirit (there's video of it at the track) that is missing most of its paint just does that to people! LOL
I made a small cowl in the hood for my turbo but I have to work on how the air goes under and through the car. As it is, it looks like it would work but it’s actually pushing hot air toward my turbo instead of drawing fresh air. Instead of introducing cowl induction it’s more a vent for the air stacking in the engine bay. Used a piece of yarn.
Awesome video as usual though I shared the first one with a coworker who has a Rampage and I’m going to share this one with him too hopefully you’re still gonna get to the Rampage because you said you were in this episode!
I love these old compact Dodges. Blue is the correct car color. :) It almost seems like the car/paint industry is run by the colorblind. Gray, black, dark gray, white, silver-ish gray. UGH.
I had a Plymouth Horizon when the Shelby cars came out. Envious? Na. I was in the USAF at the time and couldn't afford the car payment AND the insurance. 1989 I bought a 85 Mercury Capri RS 5.0 / 5sd T-top. I still have that car.
That blue omni was so intent on burning down his opponent, he waited about a second after it turned green to go. One of the worst starts to a drag strip run I have ever seen.
Solstice gxp had to replace block. Only unit found 10.25-!. Got car back after 8 months on drive home heard clunk. Tried driving 500 miles per block builders instructions. Exhaust note was fluttering. Took back to dealer. Found the installer had pinched oil return line for turbo, turbo toast. The turbo was pweerks modified big wheel not available any longer. He made a new kit for it. Larger turbo and my 0-60 times have gone from 4.99 to 5.67. Turbo not coming on until the 3sec mark.
Buddy had a Omni GLH back in the day, pretty sure it was an 85', he would let me drive it and we would do some street racing. I remember one night we outran some guys in a 84' GT Mustang lol the guys were so butthurt! Car was 146 hp or so and I think it made more than that as it was really quick. It would absolutely walk away from my 86' CRX Si....was a curb hunter though on the 50 series Goodyears.
Interesting. So that NA car, the Chrysler 2.4 is actually based on the 2.2 architecture? I always thought they were 4g63 based. So the neon SRT is the grand son of a 2.2? Same bellhousing pattern?
They're traction bars on a FWD car. They reduce front to rear weight transfer and were extremely common in the FWD drag racing world for a while. There was one car decades ago that had them actuated to lift the rear tires off the track on the hit which was effective in improving 60' times.
Looks like he is using the wheelie bars to prevent weight transfer to the rear, keeping the front planted. The bar looks like it's adjusted so the wheels are very close to the ground and there is no spring or flex, so I think they are making contact the entire time it's accelerating. I noticed the rear tires are super skinny too.
@@Ed70Nova427 This is almost certainly the correct answer. The downstream issues of high power FWD are many and super annoying. Having accelerating load transfer unload the drive wheels is a big problem, one of the two biggest. The other is the issues that arise from the drive axle and the steering axle be one and the same. Lots of annoying downstream problem related to those two things. Compounding this is, that often the rest of the platform is really solid. Especially, the engines.
@@seanhenry8030 I used to race ages ago. I never raced a FWD but as a mechanic I know some completely stock FWD are crazy fast. Those guys have to do a lot of front drive engineering due to the different length and twist rate of the axles and all the front suspension and steering joints to minimize torque steer and then I suppose the reverse of that torque when they let off or shift gears. I'm sure they have some type of formula for that by now but even with that you always have to fine tune. The fast ones must be a hell of a ride!
Cool cars, cool engines. Such a shame they're FWD. These things would have been such a riot rwd. My dad has a 84 turbo colt, the glh was about the only hot hatch that would beat it. If the driver wasn't on my dad would take them though. Gti and crx weren't even in the same league. Out ran a Jetta GTI with the family in the car and my quarter midget on the trailer one night after the races. Probably about 1989 I'd say. That car is in the garage with 68,000 and a bad head.
Crazy the culture these cars bring! Always thought they were kind of different back in the 80's because the other guys had rwd performance cars, they didn't. Very unique cars.
As a closet Fiat owner, Im lovin the dual side drafters.
SDAC32 wow. I went to SDAC2 in MD. Dodge techs were there durability testing (thrashing) a preproduction 92 IROC R/T T3 Daytona.
I love Curtis’ car! I talk to him at Chryslers at Carlisle every year. Wish I had brought my SRT swapped wagon out.
Also, that v6 is a SOHC 6g72! Great Depression racing on here went 11’s years ago with an HY35 and an FMU in an acclaim with a stock 6g72
Richard, your little Omni Shelby, has turned out really nice!
I do not know much about these cars but wow they are bringing back the memories! Back in the early 90’s my friend took me for a drive in his little Daytona and it was actually really quick.
WOOT! My Masi is semi-famous! LOL
My very good friend Ondonti (aka Great Depression Racing) has built a few 3.0 V6 turbo engines. His daily is one, he is building another for his wife, and his race car (Junkyard) is also one. First time I rode in it his daily was an eye opener! I helped him pull a 200+k mile junkyard engine out of a minivan...he gapped the rings, *re-used* the head gaskets, bolted on his turbo stuff and made 300whp with it on a questionable tune (was pushing coolant, but once he backed off the timing that engine kept going strong). That 3.0 is a stout engine. He was running a piggyback computer to pull timing and such along with a FMU, but has since gone with real engine management. Every time an engine went on him it was mostly due to tune or the FMU messing up (or driver not lifting when he should have) and NOT the engine mechanically giving up. He has hurt some feelings with his cars...something about a 12-second Spirit (there's video of it at the track) that is missing most of its paint just does that to people! LOL
Haha! Curtis is the only one with any throttle response.
Low 9 and it looks like it was spinning the tires the whole way 😳 😆 🤣 😂
I can't get over how much room there is in the engine bay of that 2.4 webber car, looks like you can pull the trans from the top.
I love to see my dad have the favorite non turbo car !! GO DAD WOOOO!!
Love this content. This is kinda how I approach car shows meets too. I gravitate to the engine bays and the story’s of how they got that way
CURTIS PALMER RULES!!!
I made a small cowl in the hood for my turbo but I have to work on how the air goes under and through the car. As it is, it looks like it would work but it’s actually pushing hot air toward my turbo instead of drawing fresh air. Instead of introducing cowl induction it’s more a vent for the air stacking in the engine bay. Used a piece of yarn.
Awesome video as usual though I shared the first one with a coworker who has a Rampage and I’m going to share this one with him too hopefully you’re still gonna get to the Rampage because you said you were in this episode!
Funny thing the world over, the more off the wall something is, the greater a few peoples enthusiasm for it.
I love these old compact Dodges.
Blue is the correct car color. :)
It almost seems like the car/paint industry is run by the colorblind. Gray, black, dark gray, white, silver-ish gray. UGH.
I had a Plymouth Horizon when the Shelby cars came out. Envious? Na. I was in the USAF at the time and couldn't afford the car payment AND the insurance. 1989 I bought a 85 Mercury Capri RS 5.0 / 5sd T-top. I still have that car.
what color? That was my dream car!
That blue omni was so intent on burning down his opponent, he waited about a second after it turned green to go. One of the worst starts to a drag strip run I have ever seen.
LOL That's common practice at test and tunes. That wasn't a race, they're just making a pass. Reaction time doesn't matter.
You don’t need an ls to have fun
big fan of the 3.0 V6 stuff. i love TD overall though. where i cut my teeth so to speak.
Solstice gxp had to replace block. Only unit found 10.25-!. Got car back after 8 months on drive home heard clunk. Tried driving 500 miles per block builders instructions. Exhaust note was fluttering. Took back to dealer. Found the installer had pinched oil return line for turbo, turbo toast. The turbo was pweerks modified big wheel not available any longer. He made a new kit for it. Larger turbo and my 0-60 times have gone from 4.99 to 5.67. Turbo not coming on until the 3sec mark.
Buddy had a Omni GLH back in the day, pretty sure it was an 85', he would let me drive it and we would do some street racing. I remember one night we outran some guys in a 84' GT Mustang lol the guys were so butthurt! Car was 146 hp or so and I think it made more than that as it was really quick. It would absolutely walk away from my 86' CRX Si....was a curb hunter though on the 50 series Goodyears.
I just saw one of these yesterday...was thinking about lifting it like a LADA Neva
Was that Brent Seman's turbo 3.0 car?
Interesting. So that NA car, the Chrysler 2.4 is actually based on the 2.2 architecture? I always thought they were 4g63 based. So the neon SRT is the grand son of a 2.2? Same bellhousing pattern?
Yes.
A couple bolt holes are different, as mentioned the later 2.0/2.4 transmissions move the starter to the front
Wheelie bars on a fwd car lmao
They're traction bars on a FWD car. They reduce front to rear weight transfer and were extremely common in the FWD drag racing world for a while. There was one car decades ago that had them actuated to lift the rear tires off the track on the hit which was effective in improving 60' times.
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Why would a fwd car have a wheely bar ?
Looks like he is using the wheelie bars to prevent weight transfer to the rear, keeping the front planted. The bar looks like it's adjusted so the wheels are very close to the ground and there is no spring or flex, so I think they are making contact the entire time it's accelerating. I noticed the rear tires are super skinny too.
@@Ed70Nova427 This is almost certainly the correct answer. The downstream issues of high power FWD are many and super annoying. Having accelerating load transfer unload the drive wheels is a big problem, one of the two biggest. The other is the issues that arise from the drive axle and the steering axle be one and the same. Lots of annoying downstream problem related to those two things. Compounding this is, that often the rest of the platform is really solid. Especially, the engines.
@@seanhenry8030 I used to race ages ago. I never raced a FWD but as a mechanic I know some completely stock FWD are crazy fast. Those guys have to do a lot of front drive engineering due to the different length and twist rate of the axles and all the front suspension and steering joints to minimize torque steer and then I suppose the reverse of that torque when they let off or shift gears. I'm sure they have some type of formula for that by now but even with that you always have to fine tune. The fast ones must be a hell of a ride!
Cool cars, cool engines. Such a shame they're FWD. These things would have been such a riot rwd. My dad has a 84 turbo colt, the glh was about the only hot hatch that would beat it. If the driver wasn't on my dad would take them though. Gti and crx weren't even in the same league. Out ran a Jetta GTI with the family in the car and my quarter midget on the trailer one night after the races. Probably about 1989 I'd say. That car is in the garage with 68,000 and a bad head.
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