Fr everyone makes it about black and white I’ve heard more rappers say em is one of the best rappers ever but I always see ppl hating on em that’s black online then always saying to white ppl of course you think Eminem is this or that that’s yalls god. When shit if em was black he would be guaranteed to be considered one of the goats but since hes white he always gets some sort of hate but thats just like lil Wayne he may not be everyone’s cup of tea but he is still a goat. When it comes to album sales and knowledge of music and rap those two are on a different level compared to any rapper todays mainstream *aside from Kendrick and Cole* even most all the old school guys most of them paved the way and craft for them to be that tho and also they all have different styles and shit too so it’s hard to said a goat but I always say one of them and I don’t know how many can argue that just like you can’t really argue drake based off sales alone even tho he’s not the shit to me
Eminem spoke to a generation of kids that also didn’t have shit, grew up in broken homes, messed up families, lost in school or to drugs, gettin bullied…
@@regidon6816 honestly most ultra poor white trailer parks are more fucked up than project housing that blacks are in In the jects you jlhave a chance of having an elder watch over you like your grandma In trailer parks that were just as poor, there it's far less hope of an elder even attempting to have a watchful eye over you. Every white guy or girl I came from a broken family, they all felt like they connected to Eminem back then bro. Don't be ignorant just cuz you didn't see it yourself
@@regidon6816 Ya he did. Not all white people are rich and have white privilege. You idiots need to wake up and realize it's rich vs poor not diffrent shades of skin vs each other. You will wake up when it's to late. You think you have problems now. Wait until the NWO comes in and your opinion won't matter even a little bit.
Eminem is an absolute monster in 2024. Bro his lyrics today is alot more complex than back then. I'm a real fan, I can tell the difference. His bars, and the way he structure it today in 2024 you gotta rewind a bunch of times. Fuckin 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. All that bullshit people saying he wack now, is all fuckin lies. The dude is nasty as fuck behind that mic in every era!!! They not listening, and they repeat the same negative comments the last man say. Carbon copy haters.
@@whodidwhat32why does writing make it less than freestyle? Freestyles aren’t 100% all on the spot off the top of your head verses. Some writing and practice is done is equivalent to and athlete doing pt and practicing plays but when it’s game time you freestyle to the situation. Right? Take a few days and write what your verse would be in place of his and make a video and let’s see if you can get the attention and praise from 50 himself, on how you out did the original. Are you up to the challenge? I’m garbage so I can’t write worth a shit!!
plus jay heard eminems parts and still couldnt outdo it!! obie said when jay sent it back em whipped the sweat of his brow like shhhh thank god im Ok!! lmao
What Eminem spit on renegades was one of his TOP 5 VERSES HE EVER SPIT...only verse I heard that was even close to em on renegades was killer mikes on the Pryme album the song was underground kings
@@arnaldofrancisco9808def not exagerating. Im from germany and I know lot of people that only listen to eminem and maybe pac or fifty at that time. But if they had to choose they would go for em. I also didnt listen to any other rapper when I was 13-14 years old there was just some german rap and eminem.
I don't know uk rap started developing in the 80s and 90s pre eminem. People like Rebel MC, Derek B. Rodney P and the London Posse. Hijack. Hardnoise, mc Duke, silver bullet
Damn. That’s a real, global perspective response from someone who understands the ripple effect of how music reaches different audiences. Respect to this dude!
This the one time Gipp actually said some non Jay-Z biased response, most of his skits be sounding like a bitter baby momma on his take, but this one was finally a valid one....💯
And thid still is to me...he stay takin shots at Jay and I dont even know why...plus Em shit wasnt better than Jay in my opinion but everybody has their own opinion
@@donsirron2085Drake/this is how'll they come at you/ wit silly rap feuds/tryna distract you/-Jay knows better than anybody that when you on top for too long niggaz dont like that💯
Crazy. Big GiPP is the man. Keeps it 💯 all the time. Em smoked Jay on renegade. Jay’s obviously dope. But he steals a lot of music. Him and Drake are comparable when it comes to that subject.
See people throw all these factors into who the better rapper is. The question is who is the better rapper who has thw better verse not is he white where he come from. Thats not the question. If its truly equality then a rapper is a rapper.
@@oftenbanned Having a better verse has nothing to do with complexion. If you bring up color of skin you bring race in to The conversation that has nothing to do with IT.. Racist agenda.
HE WILL NEVER BE THE BEST AND CAUCASIAN PEOPLE DON'T GET TO CROWN KI GS IN HIP HOP...TUPAC, JAY Z, LIL WAYNE, BIG AND NAS! EM IS DOPE BUT FAR FROM THE BEST.
@@drizzle452thos os trie bit what he said was proven as well back when full albums were sold lol 2011 study showed white people were responsible for 70% of rap album sales
Em made a point similar to this on White America about working with Dre and him giving him a chance. "Every fan black that I got was probably his in exchange for every white fan that he's got. Like damn, we just swapped"
I'd also add Em's perspective is something fresh. Not just to people who looked like him, but to people who didn't. Jay-Z's lyrics were about his drug sells. That was like 90% of his music. Been there. Heard that. His verse was fine but it didn't stand out.
No disrespect but I think you need to relisten to Jay's verse. His flows also underrated cus itneas over shadowed. "Say all I talk about jewls. Do you fools actually listen to music or do you just skim through it"
@@OG_InVaSioN That's not a hot bar. None of it could fuck with anything Eminem said. That only line that stood out to me on Jay's verse was "I had to hustle, my back to the wall ashy knuckles, pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent" That paints a perfect picture of a broke hustler on a cold NYC day slangin them thanks watching his back. But I've heard lyrics like that from him before. 80% of the shit Jay said was about selling dope
I get what he's trying to say. But I don't think it's true. I don't think there's an Eminem fan out there who's never heard of JayZ. It's not like there's a white guy out there who only listens to rock and country but also likes Eminem because he's white. That doesn't make sense. There are no white fans of hip-hop who only listen to white rappers.
It's not about him just being white. It's more about marketability. Eminem is easier to market to more mainstream audiences. He's always been edgy, but it's a type of edge that white markets are a little more comfortable with. As a result, he's able to penetrate the mainstream music market a lot better. I definitely knew a lot of kids growing up that mostly listened to pop and rock but also Eminem. None of them would listen to NWA or Nas, but through Eminem, they're exposed to broader hip hop.
@ckdc6522 I agree with you about NWA and Nas but not Jay-Z. Back in the early 2000s, every big name rapper was putting out pop songs. That's what sold the records. "Big Pimpin" was one of, if not the, biggest pop song of the 2000's.
Em would get spins on rock/ alternative radio stations as well as country stations on both FM and satellite radio. So he would get exposure that a Jay-Z may not get.
Kinda agree. Even Jada said in that beans diss "I been had a white fan base before the arrival of Marshall. Which is true cus I been rockin with X Jada, styles and crew before I bought an em album, but I grew up nyc and jiat on the outter burbs of it so it's ki da different. Different white ppl lol
He really is, Jay Z is so mid lmfao. Mid rhyme schemes, mid bars, and overrated af. People like Jay Z because he dumbed down for fame. He may have been good in the 90s, but let’s be honest, the average lyrical rapper nowadays could rap circles around Jay Z without even breaking a sweat. More famous =/= better rapper
Completely agree and how business minded Jay-z is, Jay-z knew that. When Jay-z sold his touring right to make that money back hedid a tour with Eminem.
what casuals dont understand is that the em verse on No Love is actually a diss towards wayne. there was a time when wayne said that hes been sending em tracks to do and em would never return them, that "em must be afraid to hop on a track with him". if you go listen line by line, em's verse is actually dissing wayne. and no, wayne verse was fucking trash. i fast forward that wack ass shit every time.
@@KLoff-pg1dm the style is irrelevant. Em wrote a lot of Dre's verses as well. He wrote them in the style of the person he was writing for. Look it up. It's public information!🤣
You are a legend if someone or everyone wants to be like you, dress like you, sound like you. Hearing your name in other countries. Creating history after your death. Legend
Theres not a single year Jay Z was the hottest or even top 5, the only good song he ever made was Numbcore (Numb/Encore) with Linkin park, he was never on Ems level, he was never on Waynes level, Mans isnt even on Chris Browns level. If he wasn't with Beyonce he'd be a NOBODY
Yeah he’s never had a hot year because he’s always been that guy. You dont need a ‘hot year’ to be good. Jay has always been relevant, popping and has that longevity which automatically makes him one of the greatest. There are plenty of rappers who have had a ‘hot year’ and fell off.
Em one of the greatest idc bout color that dude took the time perfect his craft and he mastered it like him love him or hate him he is a staple in hip-hop history
Don't know who this dude is, but he's right on the money. Em brought a shit ton of black rappers that white kids never heard of into their houses! Love Em or hate him, Em has solidified himself as one of the GOATs. THE GOAT to me!!! No one is coming close to Em's pen game! No one!!! He makes words rhyme that shouldn't rhyme. And bends them so they can be heard as 2 different words. Example... The Megan bar in Houdini: "Would I have a shot at A FEAT?" and "Would I have a shot at HER FEET?"
I don’t identify with nothing Jay said in his verses BUT they were good. Em truly made me feel his verses because the honesty and the passion behind his words
Bro is right. Holyshit I never ever thought of that at all. Em or Jay didn’t realize what was gonna happen after that song came out. Thanks for that input…
I grew up southern white trash Eminem was that olive branch to hiphop. My mom was also a mental case he spoke to me. Now I love all hip hop its actually a beautiful thing
This was fuggggging brilliant. The politics of it, two greats, and the stratosphere that Jay entered into after that album. Even musically... It's like the only one w/o a sample and the Blueprint sound Jay was focusing on.
The greatest life lessons can come from that one person you don't pay any mind because you're just "not feeling their energy", you always gotta check out as many perspectives as you can
Thank goodness we got Malik back. This is great news for the kings organization and fan base. On a side note, is deuce and mo a couple or just friends? They have great relationship either way.
Love the breakdown. I feel that both verses are equally great. I don't feel like Jay has the better verse, or Em had the better verse. It's just 2 different backgrounds explained and broken down for their audience/fans. That will always be a classic. I wish hip hop in is entirety would return to making music like this. Those artists always had me on the edge of my seat. We need more storytellers in the game. Get all this ratchet b.s off the air.
Oh that was one hell of a song... Damn!!! I remember way back when this song came out! My Older cousin and I were interpreting this song, I was Eminem And Him Jay-Z... We destroyed our school party. Damn that was one great day in our lives! Wow what a reminder...
Actual and factual.... It's important to be in Smiles of what you do & Love shows everywhere when Smiles are in seen! 2 races already in Smile zone & that's Fabulous ❤!!
Datz some real mfn ass truthful facts you just said brother!!! Wisdom y'all just wisdom knowledge, & having the understandings between the two✌❤ real shitz fr
now that's the great way to explain it.😊❤
whats with the cute little hart jeff ? 😂
I mean....he's not wrong
Idk anyone that needed EM to introduce Jay as an artist. Everyone knew Jay before EM.
@@dznuttzonyachin7499 _😊_
Why not?!❤❤@@dznuttzonyachin7499
Damn… this has to be one of the most honest responses I have heard from artist responding to this question. Respect!
He was deadly accurate.
@alfred8498 💯
Fr everyone makes it about black and white I’ve heard more rappers say em is one of the best rappers ever but I always see ppl hating on em that’s black online then always saying to white ppl of course you think Eminem is this or that that’s yalls god. When shit if em was black he would be guaranteed to be considered one of the goats but since hes white he always gets some sort of hate but thats just like lil Wayne he may not be everyone’s cup of tea but he is still a goat. When it comes to album sales and knowledge of music and rap those two are on a different level compared to any rapper todays mainstream *aside from Kendrick and Cole* even most all the old school guys most of them paved the way and craft for them to be that tho and also they all have different styles and shit too so it’s hard to said a goat but I always say one of them and I don’t know how many can argue that just like you can’t really argue drake based off sales alone even tho he’s not the shit to me
Very introspective. He didn’t have to dodge or BS nothin
amen to that
Eminem spoke to a generation of kids that also didn’t have shit, grew up in broken homes, messed up families, lost in school or to drugs, gettin bullied…
sure he did haAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@@regidon6816 honestly most ultra poor white trailer parks are more fucked up than project housing that blacks are in
In the jects you jlhave a chance of having an elder watch over you like your grandma
In trailer parks that were just as poor, there it's far less hope of an elder even attempting to have a watchful eye over you.
Every white guy or girl I came from a broken family, they all felt like they connected to Eminem back then bro.
Don't be ignorant just cuz you didn't see it yourself
@@regidon6816?
@@regidon6816I slap you up
@@regidon6816 Ya he did. Not all white people are rich and have white privilege. You idiots need to wake up and realize it's rich vs poor not diffrent shades of skin vs each other. You will wake up when it's to late. You think you have problems now. Wait until the NWO comes in and your opinion won't matter even a little bit.
Now that's a great explanation of the struggle of both of their realities
Yea man. Guys solid with that response.
Well said!! ❤
Jay nice, em is a different human being
EM AT THAT TIME WAS A MONSTER?
WHAT HAS CHANGED?
EM IS STILL A MONSTER
No he’s not, he was way better back then
@@koreyg8552 Its all subjective
He right but I understand Jay-Z verse that my life! Em is nasty don't mean anything to me
You bugging @@bigreggie396
Eminem is an absolute monster in 2024. Bro his lyrics today is alot more complex than back then. I'm a real fan, I can tell the difference. His bars, and the way he structure it today in 2024 you gotta rewind a bunch of times. Fuckin 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. All that bullshit people saying he wack now, is all fuckin lies. The dude is nasty as fuck behind that mic in every era!!! They not listening, and they repeat the same negative comments the last man say. Carbon copy haters.
Em killed it! Just like with 50 on patently waiting
Lol... Facts
"Get dre on the phone quick tell em Em just killt me on my own shii"
-Game
patiently waiting ft eminem and touch it[busta rhymes]...EM murdered it!!!!!!
That was a written song tho, & both written verses. 50 cant freestyle. eminem can.
@@whodidwhat32why does writing make it less than freestyle? Freestyles aren’t 100% all on the spot off the top of your head verses. Some writing and practice is done is equivalent to and athlete doing pt and practicing plays but when it’s game time you freestyle to the situation. Right? Take a few days and write what your verse would be in place of his and make a video and let’s see if you can get the attention and praise from 50 himself, on how you out did the original. Are you up to the challenge? I’m garbage so I can’t write worth a shit!!
That's a wise man speaking
Renegade solidified Em. It was like a cherry on top of his discography. My mouth dropped when this 1st dropped ❤
EM SOLIDIFIED HIMSELF. He was already an icon before this track. Ya'll put jay on such a pedestle its disgusting smh
@@Anonymous-nk9tj I said NOTHING on J, Em murdered J on this track….. Like I SAID it was the cherry on top FOR ME 🍒.
You’re the ONLY ONE mentioning J under My comment.
Eminem always been one of the best
THE BEST❤❤❤❤❤❤
Man makes a great point never even thought of that but facts
He definitely offered a perspective that I'm sure not many people even considered.
This dude is smart. He's on point 💯
plus jay heard eminems parts and still couldnt outdo it!!
obie said when jay sent it back em whipped the sweat of his brow like shhhh thank god im Ok!! lmao
The nuance of culture, a beautiful thing❤
Two different universes blended by similarities. That's all that was. They blended so well on Renegade to create that masterpiece
Eminem is like a Uzi in the hands of a phycho he's spraying the whole corner
wit 1000 round drums
Facts 💯
What Eminem spit on renegades was one of his TOP 5 VERSES HE EVER SPIT...only verse I heard that was even close to em on renegades was killer mikes on the Pryme album the song was underground kings
YEEEEEEAAAAHH BUT 👑KING KENDRICK & LIL WAYNE IS LYRICALLY ON EMINEM HEELS THO FAM🤷🏿🤷🏿♂️💯✊🏾🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤
Then you missed A LOT... That's not even Em's top 5 verses...
To be honest Jay cooked his verse but M barbecued his
He definitely offered a perspective that I'm sure not many of us even considered.
Now that’s the smarted man I’ve ever seen
Hip Hop would not be as big as it is today without Eminem. Especially in countries outside of America
Eminem did too much in hiphop. But you exaggerated here...
@@arnaldofrancisco9808def not exagerating. Im from germany and I know lot of people that only listen to eminem and maybe pac or fifty at that time. But if they had to choose they would go for em. I also didnt listen to any other rapper when I was 13-14 years old there was just some german rap and eminem.
@arnaldofrancisco9808 now bro he's right even 50 cent says that without em hip hop culture won't be that big as is today
No exaggeration, Eminem is a HUGE reason for hip hop being so mainstream nowadays.@arnaldofrancisco9808
I don't know uk rap started developing in the 80s and 90s pre eminem. People like Rebel MC, Derek B. Rodney P and the London Posse. Hijack. Hardnoise, mc Duke, silver bullet
Damn. That’s a real, global perspective response from someone who understands the ripple effect of how music reaches different audiences. Respect to this dude!
Jay's went monster on that one. 🐐
This the one time Gipp actually said some non Jay-Z biased response, most of his skits be sounding like a bitter baby momma on his take, but this one was finally a valid one....💯
🤨
And thid still is to me...he stay takin shots at Jay and I dont even know why...plus Em shit wasnt better than Jay in my opinion but everybody has their own opinion
@@Hoodwaze I totally agree, but nowadays it's convenient to try and throw shade at him
@@donsirron2085Drake/this is how'll they come at you/ wit silly rap feuds/tryna distract you/-Jay knows better than anybody that when you on top for too long niggaz dont like that💯
Crazy. Big GiPP is the man. Keeps it 💯 all the time. Em smoked Jay on renegade. Jay’s obviously dope. But he steals a lot of music. Him and Drake are comparable when it comes to that subject.
Bro that couldn't be said any better 💯
Big Jay fan, so with Em! Yo Em is just a freaking lyrical menace!
If the shoe fits he’ll wear it
Such an intelligent, honest, unbiased OG answer…💐💐💐
Finally. A. Brotha. With. Some. Facts. Non. Racist. Guy. Who. Is. Actually spittin. Facts. They both helped each other. N. Forget. Skincolor
See people throw all these factors into who the better rapper is. The question is who is the better rapper who has thw better verse not is he white where he come from. Thats not the question. If its truly equality then a rapper is a rapper.
Not a racist? Why he brought up race, when asked about The better Verse on a Song? Jay has neverr Been top5.
He literally said because Em was white he was able to tap into a larger fan base without being harsh about it.
@@oftenbanned Having a better verse has nothing to do with complexion. If you bring up color of skin you bring race in to The conversation that has nothing to do with IT.. Racist agenda.
Yes!
Well said. Jay knew what he was doing.
Because he is so used to using people.
After all jayz act like he a god @AnanusBananus
@@ChristEnlightenment Thank you, just what i was referring to. Have a great Day!
Eminem certainly benefited from this…and once Nas said it in ether, he unintentionally immortalized Eminem
@@drizzle452 Em benefited how?
EMINEM IS THE BEST THINKING ABOUT YOU WILL HEAR IT SOON.💯🎯✌🙏💙🙏😎
HE WILL NEVER BE THE BEST AND CAUCASIAN PEOPLE DON'T GET TO CROWN KI GS IN HIP HOP...TUPAC, JAY Z, LIL WAYNE, BIG AND NAS! EM IS DOPE BUT FAR FROM THE BEST.
@@DJLXSTARRwhy can't white people have an opinion? Why aren't we allowed to Crown someone as the king 👑 of Hip Hop?
Now thats a smart man. Without the hardcore white fans there wouldn’t be as much money in rap
Facts
White people loved Jay-z already. I was in college at Iowa. Jay-z was playing at keg parties a couple years before this with in my lifetime 2
@@drizzle452stop pretending like Jay z would be as big as he is without Beyonce and Em’s impact.
@@drizzle452thos os trie bit what he said was proven as well back when full albums were sold lol 2011 study showed white people were responsible for 70% of rap album sales
What😂 trolling
Wow see this is someone who gets it
Em made a point similar to this on White America about working with Dre and him giving him a chance.
"Every fan black that I got
was probably his in exchange for every white fan that he's got. Like damn, we just swapped"
I'd also add Em's perspective is something fresh. Not just to people who looked like him, but to people who didn't. Jay-Z's lyrics were about his drug sells. That was like 90% of his music. Been there. Heard that. His verse was fine but it didn't stand out.
No disrespect but I think you need to relisten to Jay's verse. His flows also underrated cus itneas over shadowed. "Say all I talk about jewls. Do you fools actually listen to music or do you just skim through it"
@@OG_InVaSioN That's not a hot bar. None of it could fuck with anything Eminem said. That only line that stood out to me on Jay's verse was
"I had to hustle, my back to the wall ashy knuckles, pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent"
That paints a perfect picture of a broke hustler on a cold NYC day slangin them thanks watching his back. But I've heard lyrics like that from him before. 80% of the shit Jay said was about selling dope
They had a mutual respect for each other and was able to make a timeless classic because of this. ✊🏽
For those that don't know. This is Big Gipp from Goodie Mob. 2nd best Southern Hip-Hip group of all time.
Power of the rapgod unleashed!
❤️👑❤️🔥
He has it 100% correct 💯
Once the monster came out of him the poet left.
No, the poet got even stronger
I love this response. Very articulate and thoughtful
I get what he's trying to say. But I don't think it's true. I don't think there's an Eminem fan out there who's never heard of JayZ. It's not like there's a white guy out there who only listens to rock and country but also likes Eminem because he's white. That doesn't make sense. There are no white fans of hip-hop who only listen to white rappers.
It's not about him just being white. It's more about marketability. Eminem is easier to market to more mainstream audiences. He's always been edgy, but it's a type of edge that white markets are a little more comfortable with. As a result, he's able to penetrate the mainstream music market a lot better. I definitely knew a lot of kids growing up that mostly listened to pop and rock but also Eminem. None of them would listen to NWA or Nas, but through Eminem, they're exposed to broader hip hop.
Sad u ain’t understand simple comment
@ckdc6522 I agree with you about NWA and Nas but not Jay-Z. Back in the early 2000s, every big name rapper was putting out pop songs. That's what sold the records. "Big Pimpin" was one of, if not the, biggest pop song of the 2000's.
Em would get spins on rock/ alternative radio stations as well as country stations on both FM and satellite radio. So he would get exposure that a Jay-Z may not get.
Kinda agree. Even Jada said in that beans diss "I been had a white fan base before the arrival of Marshall. Which is true cus I been rockin with X Jada, styles and crew before I bought an em album, but I grew up nyc and jiat on the outter burbs of it so it's ki da different. Different white ppl lol
Eminem is way better than j Zay
🧢 hi my name is 😂😂😂
No he’s not
He really is, Jay Z is so mid lmfao. Mid rhyme schemes, mid bars, and overrated af. People like Jay Z because he dumbed down for fame. He may have been good in the 90s, but let’s be honest, the average lyrical rapper nowadays could rap circles around Jay Z without even breaking a sweat. More famous =/= better rapper
I'm black and I fully agree
@@sasukehickson3390 You’re definitely white 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Spoken by a wise man with some sense 💪
Completely agree and how business minded Jay-z is, Jay-z knew that. When Jay-z sold his touring right to make that money back hedid a tour with Eminem.
Wayne the only mf he couldn't out rap they both was sliding on No Love til this day lol
Wayne be say pure bullshit
@@robbrown8678Tf you talking about. Wayne went crazy on no love
@rhj107 that all you got.. im sure he said the same ol same bs but he definitely got metaphor but bar for bar with em hell no
Fact
what casuals dont understand is that the em verse on No Love is actually a diss towards wayne. there was a time when wayne said that hes been sending em tracks to do and em would never return them, that "em must be afraid to hop on a track with him". if you go listen line by line, em's verse is actually dissing wayne. and no, wayne verse was fucking trash. i fast forward that wack ass shit every time.
I read that Em wrote Jay's verses
Fuck no , from the style to the personal story telling that was Jay all the way.
@@KLoff-pg1dm the style is irrelevant. Em wrote a lot of Dre's verses as well. He wrote them in the style of the person he was writing for. Look it up. It's public information!🤣
@@maskedninja876lol nah em killed but jay never needed anyone to write for him.
You are a legend if someone or everyone wants to be like you, dress like you, sound like you. Hearing your name in other countries. Creating history after your death. Legend
This is the best take I've heard on this subject
Jay Z sound whiter than Eminem!!
If it is not eminem, rap it will exist only in the hoods.
Bullshit. Even befor eminem. The biggest demographic buying rap music were suburban white kids.
Gipp gave the greatest explanation on this that I’ve ever heard!! 💯
Salute someone explained it so perfectly....Salute to both MCs
Royse verse on the original is better then Jay's too. Sooo
You bugging
@@gregwalker508 have u heard the original version?
Royce is def top 5
Theres not a single year Jay Z was the hottest or even top 5, the only good song he ever made was Numbcore (Numb/Encore) with Linkin park, he was never on Ems level, he was never on Waynes level, Mans isnt even on Chris Browns level. If he wasn't with Beyonce he'd be a NOBODY
Yeah he’s never had a hot year because he’s always been that guy. You dont need a ‘hot year’ to be good. Jay has always been relevant, popping and has that longevity which automatically makes him one of the greatest. There are plenty of rappers who have had a ‘hot year’ and fell off.
@@tbtnr9851 The only thing that made him "relevant" is being married to Beyonce, he'd be absolutely nothing without her
Man this dude put it the best way he could giving utmost respect to both rappers thats whats up words of wisdom with it
Never heard anyone out it such a deep way ❤
This is the most humble way of telling it like it is
Very well spoken man here. He has a valid opinion and presented it very well...
Em one of the greatest idc bout color that dude took the time perfect his craft and he mastered it like him love him or hate him he is a staple in hip-hop history
Em helped a lot with the hard times and the pain/struggles in my life
Thats a really amazing way to put it. 💯🔥❤️✨
He right ✅️ !!!
And this is an actual, well thought out opinion that makes sense and doesn’t slag anyone off. Spot on man.
Very well said! Respect to both artists. Masters of their craft
Best analysis of it that I've heard.
I like this perspective
Best explanation of em ever ...give him his flowers
I love takes like this. Truth 💯
i think that question is asked so much to so many rappers is just to see who the true haters are because everybody knows the answer.
this is by far the most objective explanation coming from a rapper
Don't know who this dude is, but he's right on the money. Em brought a shit ton of black rappers that white kids never heard of into their houses!
Love Em or hate him, Em has solidified himself as one of the GOATs. THE GOAT to me!!! No one is coming close to Em's pen game! No one!!! He makes words rhyme that shouldn't rhyme. And bends them so they can be heard as 2 different words. Example...
The Megan bar in Houdini:
"Would I have a shot at A FEAT?" and "Would I have a shot at HER FEET?"
That's Big Gipp from the ATL rap group Goodie mob back in the '90's.
Dude talking BIG FACTS!!
Facts!!!!!
That’s the best take I’ve heard from that debate
I don’t identify with nothing Jay said in his verses BUT they were good. Em truly made me feel his verses because the honesty and the passion behind his words
Both of them boys ate well on that renegade. That is one of my favorite favorite songs of all time. I damn sure give it to Eminem
Bro is right. Holyshit I never ever thought of that at all. Em or Jay didn’t realize what was gonna happen after that song came out. Thanks for that input…
Bengayno after watching this "Oooooouuuuuuuuwwwoooo"!
I grew up southern white trash Eminem was that olive branch to hiphop. My mom was also a mental case he spoke to me. Now I love all hip hop its actually a beautiful thing
This was fuggggging brilliant. The politics of it, two greats, and the stratosphere that Jay entered into after that album. Even musically... It's like the only one w/o a sample and the Blueprint sound Jay was focusing on.
The greatest life lessons can come from that one person you don't pay any mind because you're just "not feeling their energy", you always gotta check out as many perspectives as you can
This is the facts. Plain and simple.
Well said and well explained, thank you for your honesty.
There will never be another Em he's the KING GOAT❤❤❤
Big GIP always was a real one and thorough!! ATL been in the building
This man has perspective. Excellent response.
Dope track I remember listening to it on cassette then you turn it over and there was the instrumental 😂 man those were the days. Em went off tho
Thank goodness we got Malik back. This is great news for the kings organization and fan base.
On a side note, is deuce and mo a couple or just friends? They have great relationship either way.
Love the breakdown. I feel that both verses are equally great. I don't feel like Jay has the better verse, or Em had the better verse. It's just 2 different backgrounds explained and broken down for their audience/fans. That will always be a classic. I wish hip hop in is entirety would return to making music like this. Those artists always had me on the edge of my seat. We need more storytellers in the game. Get all this ratchet b.s off the air.
wow, someone with sense and honesty.. refreshing! 💯👏🔥
Oh that was one hell of a song... Damn!!! I remember way back when this song came out!
My Older cousin and I were interpreting this song, I was Eminem And Him Jay-Z...
We destroyed our school party. Damn that was one great day in our lives!
Wow what a reminder...
He still is a Monster.❤
Respect for keeping it 💯
Actual and factual.... It's important to be in Smiles of what you do & Love shows everywhere when Smiles are in seen! 2 races already in Smile zone & that's Fabulous ❤!!
eminem is the only rapper that never got outshined by another rapper on a feature
This is probably the best take on Renegade ever
Datz some real mfn ass truthful facts you just said brother!!! Wisdom y'all just wisdom knowledge, & having the understandings between the two✌❤ real shitz fr
Wow!! That is so on point. Well articulated.
I love this answer this is by the best answer in my personal opinion.
He could never have a better verse than the guy he bought the song from.
Incredibly insightful response. Smart guy.
I love that record,jay z is cool for ft eminem in a time when not to many rappers wanted to work with him