The REAL TRUTH about the MG4 EV!
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- GRIDSERVE invited me to test drive the MG4 Trophy Long Range so I can finally bring you my review - is it the game changer everyone makes it out to be?
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00:00 Intro
01:08 Exterior
01:26 Driving Intro
01:53 Interior
03:18 Models and Colours
05:11 Test Drives with GRIDSERVE
06:20 Creative License
06:44 Driver Aids Strike Again
07:36 Equipment
11:08 The Everything Killer
13:12 Traffic Sign Blunders
18:55 Nearly There
20:32 Summary and Outro - Auta a dopravní prostředky
The right-hand steering wheel ‘star’ button is a shortcut to the climate control temperature and fan speed etc. It can be adjusted using the right hand steering wheel joystick.
Thanks, I've had my mg4 for 5 months now and didn't know that
The right hand star button can also be used to change the audio source - you choose which function you want it to do
The left star button has different options again
The buttons/toggles/sticks on steering wheel can be adjusted to change either stereo volume or driving mode or air con. It's customisable in the options on the infotainment screen.
My MG4 is my first BEV and it is great. The price, the sophistication, the range and style. It suits me very well.
Do you still own it?
@@Elaba_ Yes, very pleased and comfortable with the MG4 and evs. So much so we have sold our ice cars and now have two evs. The MG4 really works for me and we seem to be paying out less for fuel and maintenance. BUT I can see you have to have the right car for your needs.
Can you turn the driving aids off so that they stay off? I mean I drive my own car thank you, do not want that pesky lane assist turning on every time I exit the car. And my other problem with EVs in general is range in the cold. I live in Finland where it gets under -20c every winter, if the range is halved from standard then it makes no sense to me. I just rather take the train lol :D
A shame they don’t complete the range with a Trophy standard range, despite losing some range the LFP battery is safer and the ability to charge to 100% daily ( without any premature battery life problems ) is a great option , this model currently available in Thailand.
Great review, I’ve had this same model for 4 weeks now. The voice assistant is ok at managing the climate control. The steering wheel shortcut buttons are great. My only grip with it is the driving mode and preferences aren’t persistent. It defaults to normal driving and normal regeneration every time you get in. The traffic sign recognition is turned back on and all the sensitivities are rested to medium too. Fix this with a software update and it would be near perfect. A minor annoyance is the wireless charging pad isn’t very powerful and often doesn’t work so my phone screen constantly turns on and off. Again, much like the traffic sign recognition it’s very distracting. The second minor annoyance is the brightness, it doesn’t have 2 levels for day and night so you’re blinded getting back in at night after driving it during the day. And the light sensor is pretty weak, the headlights come on as soon as there’s a hint of a cloudy sky. The range is bang on, as is the charging speeds. Great size and loads of extras as standard. The interior is very nice. Overall an amazing car just let down a bit by its software.
Notes: I gave up a Kia EV6 for this car. It’s half the price of my old GT-Line S Heat Pump but, it’s got better range in my opinion, I think Kia lied a little on their range claims. It’s just as big, except the boot and frunk/froot. The inside is only slightly less luxurious and the driving aids only slightly less finessed. I’m really happy with it.
This is why we all pay a £3000 electric bill each year now ! Was £7 to charge a car , now it's £50 ! oops , think I will keep my Diesel , never buy a Chinese built car omg ....
@@curtisducati but you’ll buy a Chinese built mobile phone and a Chinese built everything else. I’ve had two Chinese EVs and they’re great. I’m sorry you have a problem attitude to Chinese cars. Keep on polluting with your diesel.
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@@curtisducati £50? My Kia eNiro cost way less than that. But you keep your diesel, bless.
The SR has LFP battery chemistry, that's the reason I bought one. The climate controls can be programmed on the RH star button ,so can be readily to hand. The 70mph speed thing comes on when using Apple Maps satnav (sometimes). Range is affected by 'intelligent' battery heating - it is easy to turn off permanently for better efficiency. Build quality is iffy, but as it's the only car with VTL and LFP some shortcomings are forgivable.
Ordered myself one on the motability scheme 3 weeks ago. Easiest sale the salesperson had ever done, as I'd already researched, and just wanted a final test drive.
SE Long range, in grey. As it's motability, is has to be a brand new order, and can't be a pre reg 'in stock' can.. so I've been told mid June for delivery.
Can't wait!
Quite a range and equipment upgrade from a seat mii electric!!
Yeah that's a proper level up, fair play! Good choice I reckon.
Just ordered one of these in metallic grey, trophy spec, 17 week waiting but can’t wait to get it!
I test drove the facelift ZS, 4 and 5. The 5 long range fits me best so I got one. Did 180 in it today on a cold day. If you can find a nearly new example, it is even more of a bargain. No cars are cheap these days but I am so happy with my car. Half of the public charging I have used has worked so far. The car is not going to be the challenge in terms of ownership. Have a test drive and see what you think.
There'a a decent MG5 long term review on the CZcams James & Kate channel Neil. One of their MG5's has clocked up 70k miles in 18 months, and James goes around the car - tyre and brake wear, switch functions, seat wear etc - looking at how it's doing so far.......
Really interesting review, thanks!
A datapoint on speed limit detection - my Skoda can reliably tell single carriageway NSL from dual carriageway, and shows 60 or 70 as appropriate. So a bit more coding/debugging needed from MG, as you say, but they do seem to be moving apace in the right direction.
The traffic sign recognitions systems are mostly developed and manufactured by component suppliers from Germany, Japan and some US, car makers don’t make them. I believe some China car makers use systems from MobileEye of Israel. Other suppliers, Bosch, Continental, Hella, Denso, Toshiba.
@@MeTube3oo. On😢
Nice one. All the base models without satnav could do what VW do with the E-UP! - put in a cradle for a mobile or tablet so you can use one of them for your satnav and just put in a normal radio with good Aux options
Why?
You can plug your phone in and use Android Auto or Apple Carplay through the screen.
@@martynmorris8160 cut costs for a cheaper base model
Yes - I've noticed mine picks up the NSL sign, but then advises that you're speeding if you're doing more than 60 on a dual carriageway. (SE SR model). My previous Insignia had traffic sign detection but I don't recall it giving speeding warnings.
I’ve gone from being a FWD fan to RWD fan since I got the Model 3 RWD LFP…….and as such I’m attracted to the MG4 for it’s steering feel which I image is one of it’s enthusiast features……..?
Absolutely - I didn't get much chance to properly test it's handling but it certainly seemed a lot more planted than the ZS (not hard I suppose!)
Great review. I know a few friends that are testing the water with one of these and have placed orders with 3 month lead times so supply chains moving a bit. I have also seen a few now locally in Fife area the car looks quite futuristic from some angles, then sometimes like a Nissan leaf from
Other angles but definitely on the prettier side/ inoffensive.Being an ex zs ev driver like you, would you pick this over the zs if you had a young family?
Ordered an MG4 Trophy. Get that about September.
To answer your question, the Mazda CX3 does get the speed correct on dual carriageway with national speed limit.
Thanks for the review.
Great review I'm thinking about taking the jump into EV motoring and this has helped a lot.
I think, at this price point, there’s little competition at the moment. MG are in the right place at the right time with product. However the only worry is the experimental feeling with the software, but they are not alone it seems. Software over the air should fix these, in theory. However, all in all, why wouldn’t you lease one?
Apparently less than an equivalent Ford Focus?
Had an SE for 2 weeks now, the drive is superb.. a few minor niggles but nothing you wouldnt get used to.
Yep, definitely on my radar as a next Motability car if they stay on the list until September.
Thanks, well put together review 👏
It is shocking how recent EVs are just not that efficient. My 2019 Ioniq does 4.5 miles/kWh on the motorway in winter with heating on, media, phone charging, 4 people and luggage. So 3.6 miles/kWh with only one person in the car, that’s not great 😕
I have a MG4 and about the SatNav, you just need to touch the screen and it will recenter. Apparently it keeps working, but shows you the last position you were looking at before doing other stuff, like it wants to show you where you were going before "interrupting". Hopefully it's gonna be fixed, but e.g. if you control temperature with the right star button (I'd recommend to do it that way, easier and safer in my opinion) satnav will keep working, while adjusting with the screen will make the satnav look like it has frozen.
I have just been promoted and can finally get an EV. Our system offers the MG4 trophy extended with no extra costs at compared to the base EV4 so guess what I have ordered. Now I am come from Kia Niro Hybrid so it will have a lot to live unto IMHO but I am not regretting it based on these review.
Had the MG4 come along a year ago, it would almost be a no-brainer to pick it, but honestly there are better picks out there now. You can, for the same money, buy a slightly used Cupra Born, Hyundai Kona or Kia E-Niro from 2022.
Personally, i find the seats in the MG4 feeling way too cheap, almost like a cheap gaming chair, and the driver assists are bad, like Tesla bad. The other ones i mentioned above, have very good driver assists.
Don't forget the 38kwh Hyundai ioniq it will do 200 miles in summer despite the small battery. You can pick up a 2022 for around £23k and a 2020 for around £19k way cheaper than the MG4 SE SR. As a company car that must be brand new or a mobility car also must be brand new the MG4 is impossible to match for value for money except possibly the MG5 facelift.
I have currently got a BMW i3 with all the bells and whistles, so will consider a Trophy model in a few years as you really need them heated seats in Scotland when it's winter.
Yes, I have similar problems with my Fiat 500e limit recognition system when driving on dual carriageways which defers to the 20 mph limit on nearby town/village streets.
Totally agree about the overzealous nature of some of the driver assistance safety features on modern EVs. My Nissan Leaf is very laggy with its automatic collision avoidance/automatic emergency braking, so many times I've been following a car signalled to turn left and slowing down, then a second after the car has turned my brakes come on, infuriating.
Thanks for the video. I wasn't aware that you can test drive and purchase a EV from Grid Server. I now will be looking to book a test drive. Thanks again
Picking up my Trophy Long Range shortly. Amazing test drive which exceeded all driving expectations! Two programmable switches will take away some of the pain of lack of physical climate control buttons - climate control can also be voice controlled too. Since your video has come out, there is the Extended range 320-odd mile range which is quite a bit more money. An extra 3.5 - 4k for around 40 extra miles seemed a little bit unnecessary. Price is hugely competitive - can't imagine why folk wouldn't want to look at this vehicle if tempted by an EV in the first place. Enjoyed your video - excellent prep pre test drive and post ordering!
I've got the new model ZS EV Trophy LR and my friend is going to order an MG4 EV on Monday (the sales guy wasn't in on Friday) however, he's been told it'll be a long wait for an orange one. So it looks like a white one.
Got to say that the Electric Forecourt in Braintree, is my favourite charging place. When I go to see the grandchildren in Braintree, I normally try to ensure I need a bit of a charge just for the experience!
There are some dealers with stock - he might want to shop around 👀
@@ModernHeroes I guess, but he's on Motability, so not sure how that works.They lent me an MG4 while I had the rear washer sorted (cold weather issue) and will probably swap my ZS EV for the MG4. For the money, it's unbeatable! Although 4 wheel drive version is going to be something else apparently! ;)
Might well be worth ringing round some dealers and seeing if they can do a stock car on Motability - afaik it just needs to be brand new (not pre registered) so he might well be able to get one quicker.
Great video, the orange MG4 looks awesome
I love my MG5 SR. Comfortable and easy to drive. I get 210 miles range in the summer, which is all I need. I gave up with the satnav as it's so laggy; instead I use my TomTom Rider as used on my motorbike and my Morris Minor.
I have ordered the trophy spec version apparently they have made a couple of changes to the spec they have now added the rear wash wipe and the one pedal drive mode and bigger wheels but they have changed the exterior appearance by making the roof the same colour as the rest of the car instead of black. I have had good few test drives of the MG 4 Trophy as a friend has one Its because of this i have made the plunge to buy an EV plus i have signed up to a new electric tariff which gives me 6 hours per night at 8p per Kwh so i can fully charge this car for quite a bit less than a tenner for a full charge. so i am looking forward to getting it.
A friend has the base model, quite likes it but suffers massively from range anxiety which I don’t quite understand as there’s a bunch of 22kwh chargers literally 10 metres from their office.
I used to have a honda jazz with traffic sign recognition. It just picks up any speed limit sign, often from neighboring road, so I end up on the motorway where speed limit is 110kph and the car telling me it's 50 because next to it is a side road with that speed limit. the MG ZS does this also. I just ignore it, as Waze shows me the right speed limit.
Great option. Could go for a couple year old Model 3 for same money too.
I also gave up my Ev6 for an MG4 Trophy saving me £20k and I am not disappointed. Minor issues are system does not remember my settings ie Eco/Normal/Sport etc. Lane assist is a little sensitive. Sign recognition went to 20 mph on A14! Info screen can be a little insensitive at times.Overall utterly recommend the MG4 which you can actually order and take ownership of unlike Kia and ludicrous waiting list times and poor communications.
I ordered one of these mid November with a quoted 16 week delivery. I'ts early March now and it's not even hit the water in China. It takes two months to paddles through the seas to the UK. It takes another 10 days to go from port to dealer. I bought a new transit van in 2017 and that has traffic sign recognition and it recognises the national speed limit (white circle with black diagonal sash) so if it could be done in 2017 by ford It should be old hat by now.
One quirk on my Hyundai Kona is last week on M25, speed limit went from 50mph to National & it beeped like crazy for a couple of miles, as it had no indication of speed change!
Great review. Sadly, this car wasn't available when I ordered an EV, otherwise I'd have definitely considered getting it.
Justevs had two SEs in stock but I just bought one, in red ;)
My satnav has done exactly the same times; but having owned an id3 I cope quite well...
Great video thanks. I need to get a decent price for my MG5 before I can afford to upgrade.
For me, the only reason I’d probably go for the Trophy Edition rather than the SE Long Range is the lack of reversing camera in the SE models. Yes it has sensors, but I’ve been spoiled by having reversing cameras for roughly 15 years.
Seriously considering a Trophy edition for my next company car.
Cannot you just install an after market one?
@@wgemini4422 If I would be buying it, rather than considering a company car, then yes that would be a solution.
Waiting for my Trophy long range on lease through a work scheme, cost alone is a no brainer
Could be a cracking used purchase in a couple of years time. I hope the charge port is still on the front, I think it is one of the defining features of the Leaf and so convenient, to the point that I'd have to think very hard about buying a car that has it's port situated elsewhere.
It isn’t I’m afraid - passenger side rear quarter in a very typical “fuel filler flap” location.
@@ModernHeroes That's a shame. Thanks for taking the time to reply 👍
Liked my wife’s se standard range so much I bought a trophy!!!
If I knew you were in Braintree I’d have come say hi with my mg4 hahaha 😅
My Toyota has this and it does not do that if your on a dual carriage way its used the nation speed sign and only goes red when you go above the permitted speed. Strangely motorway it cones up 70 but the Toyota system recognise even recognised smart motorways and all there changes .
I was quite impressed with the MG4 when i reviewed one on my channel, would I consider one to replace the family Skoda?? Most likely.
I enjoyed this video and your charming commentary.
As fewer people use petrol and diesel cars and trucks at which point does it become uneconomical for the petrol stations to operate and how soon do you think this will happen if EV adoption is on an S curve? How long g till I need to brew my own petrol for my car/lawnmower?
Viability of petrol stations may come about sooner than we think. It's difficult to be exact because we've never been here before. But as sales volumes of petrol and diesel fall due to rising EV uptake, oil companies will reduce production to match. Shell have already stated in their latest business report, that they plan to cut the production of petrol and diesel by 40% on the lead up to 2030. You won't need to "brew" your own petrol. Aspen synthetic petrol has been on sale in Britain for decades. The downside is the cost, at around £30 a gallon.... The places who sell chainsaws and other powered garden machinery tend to stock Aspen. There is talk and speculation regarding various bio-fuels etc, but again none of these are likely to be cheap. I've seen $5 plus per litre mentioned.
It looks like it’s going to be a good car at a price that’s affordable
yeah, nice car, cheap is relative... how is the little guy doing? i hope he is all right. have a nice weekend.
Hyundai Ioniq 38kWh is a real alternative to the Trophy. More efficient and the software works perfectly and has proper climate controls! Get one while you can 👍
Also now a 2022 plate is around £23000
you missed off that it will do more miles to a unit than an MG does.
I have a 28kWh one could not afford anything more. but I get in to 5 miles to a kW. Mg will never get there.
@@davidsworld5837 How much is a new Hyundai Ioniq?
The orange is going to date really quickly IMHO
My thought, too, chose the trophy in red
Great review, with you on driver assist. I drive the wind up Tesla from 2014 P85 RWD from new 2 cameras beep beep reverse aid and dumb cruise control...127,000 uk miles 8 years later I still love it, oh charging from my solar and Free for Life Supercharging that helps. Over the air updates (OTA) is the most unreal thing my cars 8 years old and its still bang up to date if not better than i bought it, i can gaurentee on a Tesla that not knowing its 70 mph on duel carriageway would be sorted within a week via OTA so maybe thats the decision pay the same for an old Tesla S get massive free supercharging network, OTA, performance! brilliant software, 250 miles range or the MG.....same price point but the MG4 is brilliant, no need to pay over £30k
Certainly appealing but not for everyone - much different proposition owning it from new to going and buying one that someone else / other people have done 130k in.
My Kona ev picks up 70 and 60 not sure how perhaps from satnav
I would like to know is it quiet on the road and does it feel solid in the inside?
yes and yes!
it was o the list then a testdrive showed the infotainment was not up to speed.
It was a cold and windy day we tested the cas and the consumption of 18kwh/100km scared us away.
We drove the the 50kwh version Dealer told us there was a bigger range version but then he told us that we where only sepose to charge it to 80% for daily use.
Making the 50 version going the same distance on a daily base....
Not going to pay just over 37K fot the bigger version. Going to look for a different car
Trophy is £33K
Golf I drove used to pick up speed limit signs from roads/bridges above and to the side of you. Some of the intelligence certainly not quite there yet
My ID.3 sometimes thinks it sees a sign that says 110mph and if you've got cruise control on it makes for a hairy experience if you're in a 30 😱
You're going to have great fun if you go on holidays to a kmh country.
Camera sees 50(kph) in town. Car thinks 50mph.
Great fun altogether! :-)
the traffic sign recognition errors are not limited to MG. My VW tiguan keeps telling me my 30mph road near me is 70mph. and often on the m4 it will try and slow me down to 40mph (with Adaptive cruise it limits the speed to the speed limits) almost got a ticket several times when it's done it on random roads near cameras too.
Countless other software issues as well with infotainment just shutting off randomly while driving and won;t turn back on till I restart. VW tell me there are no errors. its only 2 years old.
I just started to see posts in various forums from MG4 owners who have now clocked up a few thousand miles. There are some reports of creaks ans squeaks from various parts of trim etc. I'd be curious to see how the situation develops....
Just waiting for mine. About another month to go.
I know of two people that returned their VW id4s and purchased a MG 4😊
Sign recognition was annoying when I took a test drive, it picked 20 signs when I was in a 40.
MMM, seems very nice but at £30,000 that is 6th of the value of my 3 bed semi!!
I am a 76 yr old pensioner and blue badge holder,i would love something like a Wulong Mini EV, just perfect for round town and local journeys, but we will never get a car like that here!!
Uk based and you own video shows u using the sat nav while driving is 6points, I'd personally edit this bit out,yes you can adjust heating and air con but touching sat nav is illegal and this video is your own prosecution,
Back to the main video,yes I'm considering this car,thanks for the video
Question is this car compatible with the tesla charging points? If so that's a game changer
Incorrect. Holding and using a handheld mobile phone or other *handheld* device like a sat nav for any purpose whilst driving is illegal. Using a fixed screen is not. 🙄
I've never heard any comparison between MG4 and eSoul. I've always thought that the latter was the best EV value.
Let's hope the MG4 comes to Australia.
Why did MG not include a centre rear headrest?
I don't know if there are differences between different trim levels in different markets. In my neck of the woods Trophy is the only trim level that comes with a heat pump, as well as heated seats and heated steering wheel. While I can live without any of those, I am wondering if a heat pump is big enough reason to go with trophy in my rather cold climate area. Since I don't give a toss about other bells and whistles that comes with trophy, 4k€ price jump from SE to trophy makes quite an expensive heat pump. Not really sure if it's really worth quite that much.
How cold are we talking? Heat pumps definitely do give a range advantage in cold climates but also consider how often you’re likely to need the maximum amount of range, if the answer is “not very often” you still might not get your money’s worth.
Southern Finland, so we still have real winters. Although those are getting shorter and milder. MG came to our market only last month, so we don't have real world data of cold performance here yet. I probably can manage with SE, but there is a mental block somewhere between my ears that I have to overcome. The one thing though that is really pushing me towards SE instead of Trophy is battery chemistry.
Is there enough room for a mobility scooter in the boot as the zs is to small and which electric cars are affordable for someone living on disabled benifits of just over £100 per week
The boot is smaller than that found in the ZS, hardly surprising given it’s a smaller car.
an MG5 may be big enough, depends on your scooter. Otherwise it will have to be a van type eg kangoo or nissan env200
to fill up with petrol 10 mins, 2 hours or longer for electric, as a matter of interest there is a 2 hour limit stay, then £60.00 fine after 2 hours ! are EV's exempt ?
This is why a little information from the gutter press is a dangerous thing. The model featured here charge at up to 135kW so I’m not sure where you’re getting “2 hours or longer” from - try 30 minutes.
if they’d just put all round parking sensors on the SE I’d already have bought it… I won’t even consider the trophy as it doesn’t have front and side parking sensors
You could have them fitted as an aftermarket addition. Search Dolphin Parking Sensors...... (parking sensors, cameras etc) all fitted at your home address......
The ONLY thing that stopped me buying the MG4 was the lack of roof bars! For what we do we really needed roofbars for kayaks and bikes and other bits and bobs. Other than that it was a lovely vehicle to test drive.
I went with the MG5 EV long range for that very reason. Roof box and bikes. Be sure to remove it when not needed for extra range.
With the MG4 and Tesla’s recent price cuts, the opposition is looking significantly overpriced.
I bought my Smart EQ ForTwo new off Mercedes SW for just over £16K which I feel was a decent price even with its range limitation - interestingly no built-in SatNav, and in fact it seems the Bosch infotainment system is primarily designed to work with Apple CarPlay etc., which it does wirelessly and much better than my Mercedes EQC where it was £300 for just wired and in reality it is more a hindrance than help since the integration is rubbish 😳
I’ve heard that the price is probably going to be lowered in the near future 😊
Didn't you have voice control for the temperature?
Apparently so - that’s a whole new world of pain though as a Scotsman 😆.
@@ModernHeroes
Aye
That would actually be an "interesting" cross manufacturer test?
It's actually a potentially important safety function, allowing "eyes on the road" control?
Really like this car. Shame electric cars are so expensive.
But this car costs £27k, which is the same as a new petrol Astra, Focus or Golf........ And you don't *have* to buy a new electric car. There are decent used ones out there now..... I've seen a used Renault Zoe on sale at £6k......
The MG service centers are pretty good apparently 😊
They can be very variable here in the UK - some are really good, some not so much.
Not so sure of your comparison prices of petrol cars you can easily get a golf for less than £23000 if you shop around
Yep I’m sure someone has an even more miserable spec one kicking around. The comparison shown was based on what was available on Autotrader at the time.
, but seems
Price has been inflated by rip off dealers. When we start to get the car industry moving again dealer will be giving discounts again,then I might be interested in this nice looking mg4.
Has you have test derived the car, and found a few problems, note them down and send it to the directors of the china factory . Then they can look into solving the problems. If they don't get feed back, then the problem remains. Don't wait for dealerships to give feed back from customers ,as i think alot of times the don't do it . I have had new cars, and when i had problems i have wrote to the directors of the manufactures ,and they have thank me for the feed back, and they will be looking into solving the problems .
We looked hard at the MG4 but there were a number of things that put me off including disappointing consumption figures, interior quality and frankly the sort of "edgy" design which ages in weeks imo. The plastic wheel covers were a bit of a turn off too.
In the end we spent less on a 2 year 3 month old ID.3 1st Edition with less than 12,000 miles on the clock and have no regrets at all.
I'll wait for the flaming ...
Take the place covers off full alloys behind
Some ADAS features of my Tesla are substandard by industry standards. Intermittent wipers, auto dipping and no genuine blind spot WARNING system plus undesirable brake testing of those behind are issues that have been ignored for years…….because Tesla is suffering from superiority syndrome and way too far above having faults.
I’ve seen shit sat navs in high end cars. Just not worth the effort with car play. Who uses built in….
Each to their own some like ev's some like ice they both have a place
At 3.6m/kWh efficiency using gridserve @ 65p/kWh it is costing you 18p/mile. At 50mpg and £1.45/litre of petrol it costs you 13p/mile 5p/mile cheaper to travel by highly taxed fossil fuel.
Newsflash: public charging is expensive right now. Let’s just ignore the fact that cheaper electricity is available elsewhere yet every litre of petrol costs the same shall we? 🤦♂️
@@ModernHeroes well you can't completely ignore either fact. Our Ioniq 38 does 5m/kWh in 8-10 °c and with 7.5p overnight home charging is extremely cheap to run but after the first 160 miles we have to use rapids at 65p or more it's disgusting, total rip off and not encouraging people to buy BEV !
just junk the whole infotainment system and give us smartphone integration, more range, and buttons to push! Like Citroen have done with the Ami, just bigger, faster and longer range. That would do it for me.
I don’t think Ami is a great example of delegating infotainment to the smartphone - the app/button are pretty dire.
@@ModernHeroes I get you, more referring to how dire most 'premium' cars infotainment systems tend to be. We were in that very same Gridserve on Saturday, really nice but our Zoe (2nd Zoe we've had since 2015) is very temperamental about which charger it will accept...and the infotainment on that car is terrible.
Unfortunately it has an amazingly small boot considering the size and shape of the car. Definitely disappointing considering how far the long range can go per charge. Smaller than a LEAF and feels like it might be smaller than a Renault Zoe.
It’s bigger than the Zoe but you’ll definitely want a ZS if boot space is a huge concern.
@@ModernHeroes interesting I have test driven the MG4 the boot is very shallow compared to the old shape LEAF but the official numbers say it is in fact bigger. Old LEAF :355L with Bose, New LEAF 405L, Zoe 338L and MG 4 363L. So officially its bigger than all but the new shape LEAF (without Bose it increase to 435L). I am guessing it might have something to do with the removable floor panel.
Will the Chinese still supply spare parts when they start WWW3?
World Wide Web 3? Don't see why not.
SatNav hadn't crashed, it's because you were messing and touched the screen, you just needed to recentre
Nope, it definitely got stuck showing X miles to the next instruction. Did it more than once too.
Is a 62 leaf not a better car?
Better how? More expensive, charges slower, uses a charging connector that is outdated (although people make this a bigger issue than it actually is), FWD so nowhere near as engaging to drive…
@@ModernHeroes I was asking your opinion :)
the problem with leaf is NO battery management which will shorten the battery life. so that would auto rule out this EV.
then there is cold gating.
@@davidsworld5837 yes I have leaf 30 and it's not great in any extreme weather , as long it's about 10 Deg c it's happy
I think the MG5 LR gets it right.
Unfortunately most people are simply not educated well enough financially.
You can get a used model 3 with 30 to 40k miles in the clock for £30k.
I leave that with you but for sure I am not getting a new Mg for sure
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There is a Tesla Model 3 on AutoTrader, with 23k miles for 28k.
But there is more favourable finance on a new car so depends on your requirements.
I looked at a new Model 3 pre-pandemic, with a view to buying. Once I'd seen the poor panel gaps, the orange peel paintwork, and experienced the creaky internal trim on a test drive, my (admittedly not truly exceptional) education prompted me to walk away and choose something else. Particularly after I'd watched Sandy Munro's CZcams video on reverse engineering a Model 3, and reading the comments of actual Tesla owners on forums regarding crappy customer after sales. I got a Kia eNiro, and I remain very happy with it.
The real test will be 3-4 years down the road - will MG keep spares? Will the chassis turn out to be un-galvanised and rusting??
These have been issues with previous Chinese MG ranges; Petrol, Diesel and Electric.
My son's diesel MG was effectively written off at 4 yeas old, as MG couldnt get it to pass the UK emissions tests.
The MG6 was a joke, no doubt about it.
@@ModernHeroes My son got left seriously out of pocket - how out of pocket he won't admit to, but since he has a high wage job, but is still driving the 15 y/o Ford Focus replacement for the MG, I suspect he is still having to pay off the finance; even though the MG had to be scrapped.
There are also recent reports from Australia, about ungalv'ed/poorly galv'ed chassis' rusting, on 2-3 y/o cars from several Chinese manufacturers.
Personally I buy a car set the temperature and never touch it again.
Got mine 4 weeks ago and I can say one thing in all honesty. It's probably the most dangerous car I have ever driven in over 50 years of driving. The lane assist is so severe it almost tears the steering wheel from your hands if you wonder near the line or fail to indicate when crossing it. Turning it off is all well and good but it defaults back to ON. I would advise anyone to test this so called 'Safety' feature before buying. Signalling for lane change is not a mandatory function as MG and the dealers would have you believe. Signalling should only be done if there is someone to signal to, hence road awareness prevails.
I’m no fan of lane assist but calling it dangerous is a stretch.
@@ModernHeroes Well 52 years of driving, 20 years of which were in the police and I have never driven anything as dangerous. Matter of opinion I suppose but I will continue to criticise this until MG sort it.
Had one for a week and the boot decided to fill up with water... Plus the drivers door handle button stopped working... MGs build quality will be the downfall with these cars. Decided to go for a Megan E tech. The Renault is without a doubt head and shoulders better than the MG4.
My mg4 will be use in city driving only. Out of town diesel engine.