Just reminder about Saber toothed tigers: Instead of having a powerful bite force, they had powerful skulls/necks so they used their neck or skull to make their long ass teeth go through the victims skin(I hope you understood what i said!)
Correct but the teeth were absolutely sensitive and could have been broken easily, the teeth were mainly for the finishing blow and not to attack with it in mid battle but as they had low agility and speed it resulted as a disadvantage but no doubt they had large claws with a lot of muscle mass they were easily one of the strongest big cats to cease earth.
I don’t think smilodon wins mainly because it can’t use its bite unless it’s pinned down it’s opponent. This is because it’s long teeth were too fragile to just do the hit or miss method and go full out in battle so it honestly depends on how smart the cat actually is
Well it depends really If it’s a head-on fight I do believe that the lion would win but if the lion was offguard well the sabertooth would have the advantage
A saber wins vs American Lion? Idk sabers had fragile teeth. They used to break in battle a lot. It’s one if those battles depending on the situation. In a full healthy 1v1. It’ll go 60/40 favoring the tiger. But 1800psi can literally bite through all that muscle the tiger possesses. If the lion manages to get a good grip on its neck, lights out. If the tiger controls the distance and maintains its poise the tiger will win. But endurance is important too though.
I counted the advantages of both and results are like this American Lion: 10 points Smilodon Populator: 7 points If you don't believe me, do it first, count the advantages of both. The fight is very close however remember that the intelligence/battle IQ of the American lion gives him a little more advantage against the strength of the Smilodon but even if I see it very close.
Experience goes to smilo cause not because smilo has been extinct farther then American lions, but lions barely hunt. They just let the females do the work, but smilo dons hunt in packs or just alone
@@dizzyrose1809 christansen did mention his paper from 2009 that American lion were solitary hunters. But cave lions based on the evidence we have from herve Bocherenes they did specify they were more solitary hunters due to them heavily relying on reindeer.
@@dizzyrose1809bro back then there were so many friggin animals they had to fight because like lions,jaguars,tigers, wooly mamoth, dinosaurs and so many friggin things.
I agree it would be a close fight Yes intelligence helps But remember in nature it’s usually the bigger and stronger animal that wins Weight also plays a huge part I can see smilodon winning The lion can win if it can pull a successful bite But if it does bite smilodon can still claw the lion to death before the bite can take effect
Fun fact smildons couldn’t run like lions tigers and other big cats as there tails where to short cats use them for balance to help with there speed a smildon would end up falling over if it ended up in a chance which caused them to use stealth and sneak attacks
False! sabertooths can use their fangs to attack but they are larger but if the lion fought a lion it would depend on both of their size but the sabertooth will win
They're actually the large per body mass when compared to tigers. Don't know about other cats but it should be the case. They have more stamina than other cats too.
@@trexthefossilking299Even fatalis can kill a American lion if they are evenly sized they are much stronger and robust and denser.They have strong ass necks and the teeth arent fragile as people thought them to be and they were better grapplers.And if ur wondering why i said they are stronger thats because they more and stronger muscles and muscle tissue and fiber is harder to tear through than fat.
@@trexthefossilking299Didnt u comment like 20 times to say ur professor told u a whole lecture about how they were not fragile? And thats also outdated information its not fragile. But it also had strong ahh neck muscles
@@raptor___that comment was before the professor stuff It wasn’t until I began college where all that changed for me So I apologize for my stupidity there
@@tusker9959 last time I will say this for now! The biggest specimen we have for American lion is 362kg and the biggest estimate rn that is reliable for the American lion is 380-400kg maxed. The biggest specimen for Smilodon Populator is 435kg and the biggest estimate is 450kg maybe even bigger now but will see here. The American lion is a smaller cat but does have a stronger bite force.
@@dizzyrose1809 I'm not trying to get in a serious debates but you could watch literally any American lion vs smilodon populator video take creature challenge Either way what study is that?
شیر امریکایی باهوشترین زیبا ترین وخشن ترین و قدرتمند ترین گربه وگوشتخوار تمام اعصار بوده وهست اسمیلودون پاپیلیتور بهتره وقتی صدای شیر امریکایی روشنید برگرده ودم کوچولوشو بزاره رو کولشو فرار کنه وگرنه تیکه پاره میکنه اونو
@@dizzyrose1809 i already read that paper they didn't show any calculations done to get 500 kgs. Infact i think they took some random equation 990 kgs, 440 kgs and 350 kgs and took a mean out of that. 990 kgs should be excluded but they didn't.
@@dizzyrose1809 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smilodon In Portuguese it says it weighed 529 but I don't believe they could weigh 500 kg if it was a very healthy male
@@dizzyrose1809 And by the way, his bite does not have this Wikipedia and this source (website) and the most reliable one, but it does not show the psi agent will never know with our own eyes and believe in words that maybe Lie
@tigerLuver no my claims on American lion have been Debunked but there is scientific evidence and research that suggests that Mosbach lions could have weighed up to 500 kg. Here are five arguments that support this claim: Fossil evidence: Paleontologists have discovered a significant number of Mosbach lion fossils, including skulls, limb bones, and teeth, which provide a basis for estimating their size and weight. Based on the size and shape of these fossils, experts have estimated that the Mosbach lion could have weighed up to 500 kg. Comparative anatomy: Mosbach lions were closely related to modern African lions, and studies have compared the physical characteristics of both species to estimate the weight of Mosbach lions. Based on these comparisons, experts have suggested that the Mosbach lion was significantly larger than modern African lions and could have weighed up to 500 kg. Computer simulations: Scientists have used computer simulations and models to estimate the weight of Mosbach lions based on their skeletal structure and anatomy. These models have suggested that the Mosbach lion could have weighed up to 500 kg. Size and ecology: Based on the available evidence, Mosbach lions lived in areas where large prey animals were abundant, such as the steppe-tundra environments of the Pleistocene era. To survive in these areas, it's believed that Mosbach lions would have had to be large and powerful, weighing up to 500 kg, in order to take down large prey such as mammoths, bison, and horses. Expert consensus: While there is some variation in the estimates of Mosbach lion weight, many experts in the field of paleontology and animal biology generally agree that the species could have weighed up to 500 kg. This consensus is based on a combination of fossil evidence, comparative anatomy, and computer models, among other factors.
@@whitelionking9635 The lion as a stronger bite correct. Here is a fun fact so the Smilodon didn’t have a strong bite like the lion did but it’s bite was more effective because it could make deeper wounds and hit the wind pipe easier. As in fighting style sabertooth cats are the best since they are more heavily built than any cat living or extinct. They were the best grapplers of the cat kingdom. As in mane we don’t really know if the American lion had a mane or not and the mane wouldn’t be much help since the Smilodon teeth could go right through it.
@@dizzyrose1809 the smilidon most likely only used it’s for a finishing bite to the neck witch probably won’t happen cuz the lion would not give it a chance to find an opining
Smiles goes to Smilodon! 😀
😂😂😂
Just reminder about Saber toothed tigers: Instead of having a powerful bite force, they had powerful skulls/necks so they used their neck or skull to make their long ass teeth go through the victims skin(I hope you understood what i said!)
I do and I’m already informed
Like allosaurus
Correct but the teeth were absolutely sensitive and could have been broken easily, the teeth were mainly for the finishing blow and not to attack with it in mid battle but as they had low agility and speed it resulted as a disadvantage but no doubt they had large claws with a lot of muscle mass they were easily one of the strongest big cats to cease earth.
@@dineshsharma7685no in 2023 scientist experiment it was a strong teeth like today elephant
@@Minestar-qb2xw can you please tell me some more details and the source of this information?
I do agree that Smilodon populator wins with extreme difficulty
The only sabertooth that can win against an American lion
2 more could that are bigger than the American lion.
@@dizzyrose1809 American lion is bigger
@@tusker9959 you are looking at outdated information if you think that
@@dizzyrose1809 it a new study it can't be outdated
@@tusker9959 Show the website
I prefer the American Lion
Same because they where strong
@@mamadijabbie9433 Not nearly as strong as smilodon.
I don’t think smilodon wins mainly because it can’t use its bite unless it’s pinned down it’s opponent. This is because it’s long teeth were too fragile to just do the hit or miss method and go full out in battle so it honestly depends on how smart the cat actually is
The fangs are not fragile, studies have shown they can pierce bone
My prehistoric life professor did a whole lecture about it
When it comes to things like this, Its really about size and pure bulk.
Smilodon was 100 pounds larger than the american lion and could break its jaw off in one swipe of a paw in a likely scenario iyam.
Populator fangs are not fragile 😅
Smilodon wins
American lion usually has 2000+ psi
American lion 650 psi 😐😐😐😐😬😬💩💩💩
No American lion has 1800 psi
@@Minestar-qb2xw
Mosbach Lion > American Lion
@@josue1120yes
@@asharammeenameena3474 smilodon populator 10psi 🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖🐖😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
Smilodon
Well it depends really If it’s a head-on fight I do believe that the lion would win but if the lion was offguard well the sabertooth would have the advantage
@@babitajaykumar7535 I’m not so sure about that
Power goes sabertooth
Intelligence goes to Smilodon
No 😂
It takes high intelligence to work in pack lion apes wolfs hunt and live together and there some of the smartest animals
Yeah
Source?
No the same way it doesn't go to you for this silly statement.
Smilodon team like😊😊😊😊
American lion wins ❤❤❤❤❤
No
@@obomdeguerra105yes
@@tusker9959 Smilodon>>>>>>>>>>Panthera leo atrox
@@obomdeguerra105 panthera atrox >>>>>>>>>>smilodon
@@tusker9959 LOL Smilodon>>>>>>>>>>all big cats
American lion is winner
Nooo
Lion 75% and the new estimate of the Lion reaches 600 kg 19:5 inch skull
Link?
@@dizzyrose1809 don't need it
@@tusker9959 why would I not need it?
@@dizzyrose1809 you can find that website
@@tusker9959 😂😂
I think depend on the situation
face on face means both know they are going to fight and no ambushing
A saber wins vs American Lion? Idk sabers had fragile teeth. They used to break in battle a lot. It’s one if those battles depending on the situation. In a full healthy 1v1. It’ll go 60/40 favoring the tiger. But 1800psi can literally bite through all that muscle the tiger possesses. If the lion manages to get a good grip on its neck, lights out. If the tiger controls the distance and maintains its poise the tiger will win. But endurance is important too though.
Smilodon sabers are no longer considered fragile
Fragile theory is old
Smilodon dominates that American lion.
Not a male
@@tusker9959 be it male or female, smilodon beats American lions and don't come with that 2012 study saying 500kgs which has already been debunked.
@@xenon3659 yeah there's a new study
@@tusker9959 no new study has been published, the max weight of American lion was 363kgs (375kgs if we use guate gojira equations) that's it.
@@xenon3659 and how do you know that
Did a smilodon fan tell you that
The American lion is a very smart animal it’s Smarter than Smilodon
😮😮😮Why we called smilodon as sabertooth tiger ???
They sed to grasland areas
And sometimes they hunt as group
So they should be :- sabertooth lion
Smilodon Populator 👊🏻
💪💪🏼
I counted the advantages of both and results are like this
American Lion: 10 points
Smilodon Populator: 7 points
If you don't believe me, do it first, count the advantages of both. The fight is very close however remember that the intelligence/battle IQ of the American lion gives him a little more advantage against the strength of the Smilodon but even if I see it very close.
Points don’t matter if you have more quality advantages. Smilodon is just far more powerful and bigger than a American lion.
American Lion weights 250-430kg and Smilodon populator weights 400kg-530kg
@@dizzyrose1809 we will see about size buddy
@@tusker9959smilodon is considered to be heavier.
Scientists like to determine size through weight
@@trexthefossilking299 American lion bigger size=weight
American lion wins because it's points are 10 against 7
That what im saying
Honestly that's not how it should work.
Fun fact - They both are same their DNA match 98% and with African lions 92%
Not smilodon tho
@@freshguy4Smilodons were closest relative to American lions
Cap
Saber tooth tiger is the winner
Smilodons teeth are fragile
Outdated
I think American lion win
But you tiger fan boy
Thats all you
@@dizzyrose1809 American lion weight is 520 kg and you speak lion loose
@@KushKumar-jx4bx outdated information
The smilodon isn't even a tiger my guy.
@@JT-pr8mi I think American lion is also defeated in fight smilodon populator but that's fight is equal
Experience goes to smilo cause not because smilo has been extinct farther then American lions, but lions barely hunt. They just let the females do the work, but smilo dons hunt in packs or just alone
American lions are thought to be solo hunters
@@dizzyrose1809 christansen did mention his paper from 2009 that American lion were solitary hunters. But cave lions based on the evidence we have from herve Bocherenes they did specify they were more solitary hunters due to them heavily relying on reindeer.
American lion win
I say the American lion wins because the smildon has one big disadvantage...it's teeth if they get broken during the fight they can't hunt properly
Those long tooth are useless for biting because it blocks their mouth.
Smilodon can open wide and the fangs were strong
American lion has no chance if pupulator built like a Tank , it has larger teeth , bigger neck and Faster.
Bro experience goes to smilodon
Why do you think that
@@dizzyrose1809bro back then there were so many friggin animals they had to fight because like lions,jaguars,tigers, wooly mamoth, dinosaurs and so many friggin things.
W
Appreciate it
No you are wrong American lion wins easily
Smilodon wins!
Давай ты устроиш битву bornean tiger vs smilodon populator vs american lion
if smilodon populator was there than imagine
Uuff🎉
Battle iq goes to smildon
American vs Ngandong tiger
American lion is extinct 14,000 years ago
lion have survived when smildons cant...........
smilodon would have to worry about its K9 s shattering
yes.but they have very sharp teeth and also very long teeth
The sabers are no longer considered fragile
My professor show the class the reason why that is
Don’t believe what you read on the internet
I agree it would be a close fight
Yes intelligence helps
But remember in nature it’s usually the bigger and stronger animal that wins
Weight also plays a huge part
I can see smilodon winning
The lion can win if it can pull a successful bite
But if it does bite smilodon can still claw the lion to death before the bite can take effect
Smilodon imo
Fun fact smildons couldn’t run like lions tigers and other big cats as there tails where to short cats use them for balance to help with there speed a smildon would end up falling over if it ended up in a chance which caused them to use stealth and sneak attacks
False! sabertooths can use their fangs to attack but they are larger but if the lion fought a lion it would depend on both of their size but the sabertooth will win
Endurance and stamina goes to smilodon
Lion hearts is very small so low stamina
They're actually the large per body mass when compared to tigers. Don't know about other cats but it should be the case. They have more stamina than other cats too.
Polar bears negs all
I counted the score was 10 to 7 for American lion american lion win
Smilodon ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ ❤❤
Lion😈✌💝
Old is gold 😂
എസ് 😄
American lion point 10=sabertooth tiger point =6
10=6 American lion win😂
Fight are no win to more points
That's what I am saying
@@Minestar-qb2xwTHEN WHAT IS THE FREAKING POINT
Request: Inostrancevia vs American Lion
Смилодон сильнее
Mosbach Lion > Natodomeri Lion = American Lion
Mosbach>american>eurasian cave lion>=Natodomeri
@@dizzyrose1809
Mosbach > American > Natodomeri
Sabertooths lived in prides so theyre stronger
One on one
Yeah I know Im just saying
So american lion is not a lion
And lions don't live in prides lol😂😂😂😂
Ok
No bro what are You saying
American lion weight is 650 Winner American lion
Outdated
@@dizzyrose1809was it even true ?
A male american lion can easily kill a smilodon
No
No, it cannot.
Smilodon fatalis, YES
Smilodon Populator, NO
@@trexthefossilking299Even fatalis can kill a American lion if they are evenly sized they are much stronger and robust and denser.They have strong ass necks and the teeth arent fragile as people thought them to be and they were better grapplers.And if ur wondering why i said they are stronger thats because they more and stronger muscles and muscle tissue and fiber is harder to tear through than fat.
@@raptor___hmm
Ok 👍
Reality winer American lion
Lion may be smarter but the Sabertooth is stronger and more muscular
I thought smilodon has the powerful bite force it’s teeth it is probably made by the lion
Smilodon and sabertooth cats tend to have weak bite forces but they have long teeth for delivering fatal wounds on there prey.
@@trexthefossilking299Didnt u comment like 20 times to say ur professor told u a whole lecture about how they were not fragile? And thats also outdated information its not fragile. But it also had strong ahh neck muscles
@@raptor___that comment was before the professor stuff
It wasn’t until I began college where all that changed for me
So I apologize for my stupidity there
Here’s where notes come into the play saber tooth got 7 and the lion got 10
points doesnt mean anything
😂😂😂😂
55 % american lion
😮😮❤🎉
Itna ghoot mat bolo
America lion wins
Name of music?
Simladon speed power
American is the winner
Smilidon lose,
Why do you think that
@@dizzyrose1809 because lion has a stronger bite, fighting experience, flexibility,speed, weight (debatable)
@@tusker9959 last time I will say this for now! The biggest specimen we have for American lion is 362kg and the biggest estimate rn that is reliable for the American lion is 380-400kg maxed. The biggest specimen for Smilodon Populator is 435kg and the biggest estimate is 450kg maybe even bigger now but will see here. The American lion is a smaller cat but does have a stronger bite force.
@@dizzyrose1809 I'm not trying to get in a serious debates but you could watch literally any American lion vs smilodon populator video take creature challenge
Either way what study is that?
شیر امریکایی باهوشترین زیبا ترین وخشن ترین و قدرتمند ترین گربه وگوشتخوار تمام اعصار بوده وهست اسمیلودون پاپیلیتور بهتره وقتی صدای شیر امریکایی روشنید برگرده ودم کوچولوشو بزاره رو کولشو فرار کنه وگرنه تیکه پاره میکنه اونو
AMERICAN LION IS WIN😊
Bornean Tiger >= Mosbach Lion > Smilidon Populator > American Lion >= Ngangdong Tiger >> Natodomeri Lion.
Mosbach now should be bigger than the bornean at 500kg. My proof is Sambir Lion.
@@dizzyrose1809 that's just an estimate bro no proper calculations were done to get 500 kgs. They didn't even show which formula they even used
@@xenon3659 I got a paper for you to check
@@dizzyrose1809 i already read that paper they didn't show any calculations done to get 500 kgs. Infact i think they took some random equation 990 kgs, 440 kgs and 350 kgs and took a mean out of that. 990 kgs should be excluded but they didn't.
@tigerLuver hey good to see you man 🙋🙋🙋
According to 2012 study , An average American Lion weighs 480 - 500 kg.
Outdated friend
Yeah he is right but some of these are 650 at my science book
American Lion weights 250-430kg.
Bite force go to smilodon
Song name?
On my own darci
@@dizzyrose1809 and cool edit
Hack
Wake up to reality bro American lion wins
Not really
Animals are not WWE fighters.
Are they in WWE?
@@dizzyrose1809yes
If you count humans
Which we are animals
Yal abi smilodon kaznır😊
Smilodon populator have weak jaws
Yes but they make up for it with their teeth so they can inflict for deeper wounds
El poblador smilodon pesaba 500 kg.
Not that big
@@dizzyrose1809 pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smilodon
@@dizzyrose1809 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smilodon In Portuguese it says it weighed 529 but I don't believe they could weigh 500 kg if it was a very healthy male
@@dizzyrose1809 And by the way, his bite does not have this Wikipedia and this source (website) and the most reliable one, but it does not show the psi agent will never know with our own eyes and believe in words that maybe Lie
Keep in mind
Wikipedia always changes
Youdonotnowthepoweroflion
I do
Lion يفوز
In the last scene👏👏👏👏 look at his lose moving muscles and his eyes so deep and focused 👏👏👏👏 damm great figure he is animals warrior 👏👏👏👏
Experience smilodon
Nope
we have a fanboy alert
How
I think being a paleontology fan is ok as long as nobody is faking scientific results of species.
@@dizzyrose1809 no not you but i think its high-mid diff just beacause smilodon is more robust and its k9s are huge
@@GodJulian11 huh? you talkin to me?
Actually American lion was more belonged to jaguar than lion it was ACTUALLY a Jaguar
That is very old assumption and was proved a bit ago that American lions are indeed lions
American lion eventually is the Father of all Big cats and the biggest, this the strongest of all time according to scientist
Finally someone with a brain
@@orlandowilliamson691 Actually the biggest lion was mosbach lion even bigger than a American lion, Which have a weight mass of 512 kg's
@@orlandowilliamson691 with the largest specimen
@@Adam666____iChad I heard of that didn't know it was the largest tho
@tigerLuver no my claims on American lion have been Debunked but there is scientific evidence and research that suggests that Mosbach lions could have weighed up to 500 kg. Here are five arguments that support this claim:
Fossil evidence: Paleontologists have discovered a significant number of Mosbach lion fossils, including skulls, limb bones, and teeth, which provide a basis for estimating their size and weight. Based on the size and shape of these fossils, experts have estimated that the Mosbach lion could have weighed up to 500 kg.
Comparative anatomy: Mosbach lions were closely related to modern African lions, and studies have compared the physical characteristics of both species to estimate the weight of Mosbach lions. Based on these comparisons, experts have suggested that the Mosbach lion was significantly larger than modern African lions and could have weighed up to 500 kg.
Computer simulations: Scientists have used computer simulations and models to estimate the weight of Mosbach lions based on their skeletal structure and anatomy. These models have suggested that the Mosbach lion could have weighed up to 500 kg.
Size and ecology: Based on the available evidence, Mosbach lions lived in areas where large prey animals were abundant, such as the steppe-tundra environments of the Pleistocene era. To survive in these areas, it's believed that Mosbach lions would have had to be large and powerful, weighing up to 500 kg, in order to take down large prey such as mammoths, bison, and horses.
Expert consensus: While there is some variation in the estimates of Mosbach lion weight, many experts in the field of paleontology and animal biology generally agree that the species could have weighed up to 500 kg. This consensus is based on a combination of fossil evidence, comparative anatomy, and computer models, among other factors.
Hell nah American lion solos mid diff
I respect ur opinion but smildon is a bigger animal than the American lion.
@@dizzyrose1809 lion has a way stronger bite and a small sized mane and most Likely fought like a modern lion so that’s just an automatic win
@@whitelionking9635 The lion as a stronger bite correct. Here is a fun fact so the Smilodon didn’t have a strong bite like the lion did but it’s bite was more effective because it could make deeper wounds and hit the wind pipe easier. As in fighting style sabertooth cats are the best since they are more heavily built than any cat living or extinct. They were the best grapplers of the cat kingdom. As in mane we don’t really know if the American lion had a mane or not and the mane wouldn’t be much help since the Smilodon teeth could go right through it.
@@dizzyrose1809 the smilidon most likely only used it’s for a finishing bite to the neck witch probably won’t happen cuz the lion would not give it a chance to find an opining
@@whitelionking9635 when the lion is being overpowered which will happen since Smilodon is more robust then the lion will get pinned down.
wat
KABOBOHAN!
Really -_-
American lion
smilodon was the real king
Smilodon populator win😊
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