And even later, when Arnold gets the upper hand and the predator can't see him, the Predator starts firing in all directions. Their roles had switched places.
Predator 2 happens in 1997 because 1997 was a predicted "El Niño" year. El Niño is a semi-regular phenonom in which warm air currents move across the pacific ocean, causing extreme heat waves and drought. This repeatable event has been noted for hundreds of years. 1715, the date on the old gun, was also an El Nino year.
@@cihuacoatl1887 El niño means "the child" and "the child" means "Baby Yoda" Ergo, El niño is actually caused by Baby Yoda using his force powers. Checkmate Sithers.
People forget that Jesse Ventura actually WAS a Navy Seal (UDT-Vietnam), and pulled strings to get a REAL army training officer to the locations to train the rest of the actors both in fitness and, more importantly, weapons handling and operational movement... This made a big impact on McTiernan and the overall feel of the film, as the actors really had to work hard, not just for the film, but for learning HOW to portray their characters!
They showed off Arnold's muscles not just to show off but to impress upon the audience how that Dutch was a pinnacle of a human specimen so when he fights the Predator mano a ma·no, the audience is that much more impressed with the Predator's strength.
They showed off his muscles by having him point a fully loaded M-16 rifle at one of his friends, and with his finger on the trigger at the same time? In that case they also showed what a complete moron he was at the same time!
Predator is fantastic with just subtitles, I'm deaf and I enjoy that movie a great deal. the physical acting and atmosphere leading up to the final showdown set the mood so well, it's a very well made movie.
That's cool info. I can tell my fiancee this is more reason why she should watch Predator with me, her being hard of hearing. Main reason still being it's Predator of course.
What I also like about Predator, when you consider the "slasher" elements, is that these men are no fools. They investigate their environment and ask questions most audience members would. The answers often vaguely and cryptically offered by "Billy" ("We're all gonna die.") It's the same reason Jaws was so beloved. These are not idiots being stalked by a super predator. They're cunning, strong, and completely understand the FUBAR elements of their predicament.
Contrast that to the new Alien movies in which teams of scientists and soldiers act like if they had crewed the ship with the first randos that happen to come across. Then they wonder why those movies feel ridiculous.
@@alejandor4870 Yup, that's one thing that _Alien,_ _Predator_ and _The Thing_ all understand, and what many of their imitators, including some movies in those same franchises, don't: part of the dread of a horror movie is people screwing up and getting hurt or killed for it, _but characters don't have to act stupid to screw up._
@@MegaZeta Yeah that's why 28 Days Later works and the sequels don't. In the original, even when characters make wrong decisions, they're not stupid. In the sequels everyone just does whatever they have to do to make the plot happen.
@@cloudsombrero You're right, Predator was great. The Predator sucked though and this is coming from a huge fan who's read into the deep lore of the Yautja. This may be off topic, but I think they need to do their own research for the stuff they want to critique because the movie Predators is not set on Yautja Prime, which is the homeworld of the Yautja. It takes place on the Game Preserve Planet.
Predator 2 is filmed in "concrete jungle." And no one can convince me the makers of the movie didn't think of it like that. Also watching this re:View... yeah, Van Damme most likely didn't want to be in a rubber costume, because notice there is not a single mention of Kevin Peter Hall in this 30 min video, despite the fact he played in both of the Predator movies and basically made the monster what it is.
but that's different. We would acknowledge Van Damme if he played Predator because he was already a known actor. The reason we don't talk about Hall is because he doesn't really have any other relevant roles. For Van Damme, this film would have merely been an accolade.
You fuckers put some respect on Kevin Peter Hall's name. That man made the Predator films what they are. Arnold might have been the highest billed actor but Kevin Peter Hall held the title role. Not only did he play the Predator, he also guest-starred on an episode of Night Court and Star Trek TNG adding to his contributions of the RedLetterMedia DeepLore
Also worth noting, originally Predator 2 was going to be based on Concrete Jungle the novel/ comic in which the hardened cop also has questions about the whereabouts of his brother Dutch Schaeffer. I guess that would've been too much coincidence though.
Yeah, Kevin Peter. What great physicality. That was a guy who really knew how to move in a latex suit in an extremely convincing way. What a tragedy he died so young.
Predator is the PERFECT example of a B-movie made with A-movie quality. Those are my favorite types of films: shameless genre scripts written with passion and made with excellent direction, cinematography, editing, and music scoring.
@@nickhewes6860 Billy was also the first one to realize the Predator was willing to 1v1 if he tossed the gun and challenged him to a duel to buy Arnold, Pancho and the Lady time to get to the extraction. Later on Arnold understood the Predator wants a challenge and stopped the Lady from using the gun, drawing the Predator to himself as the last remaining adversary.
Oh my gosh I thought I was losing my mind - every time I try to talk about Predator people roll there eyes as if it's a dumb action movie. This is the only discussion that talks about the high level craftsmanship involved in making that movie.
You should check out on Collative Learning's channel the analysis of Dillon's death scene. There you'll see how really high level their craftsmanship was! And why this movie is much more than a dumb action movie.
If they don't understand Predator they know too little about movies for a conversation to be possible. You might as well explain a jet engine to a caveman.
Hahahaha i know the feeling. A coworker of mine who is 20 said to me one day "whats with the movie Predator, you are always referencing that more than anything else" Thats was when he told me he hasnt seen it before and didnt know how highly regarded its held by older people. It broke my brain for a minute that a male alive hasnt seen Predator
@Irina O ALOT of people reference old Arnold Schwarzenneger movies at work. Uhhhh.... Tour guide salesmen for Tour above a city in a Helicopter. Deliveryman or pizza drivers, basically any job that requires someone to leave but reassure them of his return. Defense Lawyers or anyother profession that after work will tell you in one sentence how they were dishonest. Aaaaaaaand any worker in a warehouse that has sales offices, and they often give Salesmen highfives that result in suspended arm wrestling competitions. O, also anyone who works in a bilingual company that has to tell their baby that they will see them when they return again. Lots of people
the year I was born! it was also a great year for videogames (Contra, Mega Man, Maniac Mansion, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Wizards & Warriors, Phantasy Star, Double Dragon, Bionic Commando, Shinobi, Rygar, R-Type...)
Love the part when Jay says "They don't have that part in the movie where the predator is explained by a character that knows about it", since that's exactly what they did with Laurence Fishbourne's character in "Predators" lol.
Jason Stokes Not gonna lie, I like any movie that kills a kid. Few movies have the balls to do that, especially if it's a violent death - cancer or something doesn't count.
So, my girlfriend and I recently watched Predator for the first time. We were streaming it, and right around the "girl almost gets away from Carl Weathers" scene, the audio got caught in a loop -- nothing but jungle noises and ominous music that somehow was looping peefectly. Neither one of us was sure if the audio was glitching or not for a good while, because the non-verbal storytelling was just so goddamn good.
I think it helps plant a nice subliminal seed in your mind for the science-fiction aspect of the film. It's the perfect little tease for what is to come. By the time Arnold and Carl are shaking hands you've forgotten about the ship coming to Earth.
It would have worked either way. You know they're walking into something exceptional, an extra layer going on, you get the strong protaganists and antagonist - but as a surprise element for the audience and characters it would work without it also.
@@athenajaxon2397 I disagree, respectfully. I think it's Hammersmash logic, like "THE STUPID FUCKIN IDOTS WHO WATCH OUR MOVIES WON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE SPACE ALIEN WITH FREAKY SKIN AND CRAB FACE IS A SPACE ALIEN! THEY'LL BE SITTING THERE WONDERING WHY A MUSCULAR RASTAFARIAN IS HARASSING THESE SOLDIERS!" so they paste in a heavy-handed Roger Corman-esque special effect.
It's the old Hitchcock difference between suspense and surprise. If there's a bomb under a table, and the audience knows it's there, there's suspense. But if it suddenly goes off and no one knew it was there, then it's a surprise. Both movies obviously went for suspense, but I actually think surprise works better - as both spend a lot of time building suspense anyway after the opening shot.
Gary Busey's vanishing torso aside, the warehouse scene in Predator 2 is one of my favourites of all time. An elite team who (having debriefed Dutch) know what the Predator is about and so prep accordingly to ambush him. They have heat suits to block the infrared, prep the place so its cloak won't work - the hunter has become the hunted as they skulk through the dark warehouse, the Predator unable to see them but slowly getting suspicious somethings up. The Predator adjusts his visor through the spectrum until he catches the light off their UV torches and then all hell breaks loose.
What makes the first film such a classic is the suprising amount of heart it has - McTiernan actually gives these characters great moments and when they die you feel bad for them.
Anna gave the most chilling description of what they were dealing with when she referred to it as ""El Diablo que hace trofeos de los hombres" the demon who makes trophies of man.
You know what would have been a funny movie? A right-after type sequel wherein a bunch of predators are scouring the Earth trying to find Arnold, not to hunt him or anything, but to give him a trophy. Since he defeated the predator in the movie, he's technically entitled to a trophy, but no one was around to give him one, and so predator rules demand that a gang of like half a dozen predators just wander from city to city trying to find him and give him one of the dead predator's trophies.
@@josephdevon6068 One predator ends up getting lost from the group, but you only see him again at the end and he has a wife and is wearing matching baseball caps with his adopted human son since he decides to stay on earth.
Predator was my first R rated movie experience as a kid. My dad let me watch it with him, much to the chagrin of my mom. It was a rite of passage that I cherish to this day.
This film is definitely Arnold's best performance. Have to disagree that his delivery is bad. Strange accent, yes, but I find him totally convincing in the role.
Thank you. I scrolled all the way down to see if someone would comment. I love Arnold. This was the ONLY movie I've ever seen him in where I didn't feel like he was acting. He was completely believable and part of the reason the movie runs so smooth.
Absolutely! Predator is basically the only movie that Arnold actually really ACTS in! He feels the most real and true to his character in Predator, compared to his other roles.
I couldn't tell what he said after he tried to hit the Predator with the tree branch as a kid. I thought he was speaking German "Badadeeah" but now I know he's saying "Bad idea" and I chuckle everytime 😂
He also tried to take it on head-to-head and died for his trouble. Schwarzenegger's character learns from the error, and by the end, he knows better: he runs, he hides, he sets traps, he gets the creature to kill itself. Dutch triumphs because he realizes that a head-to-head confrontation will end with his opponent destroying him.
Sometimes Arnold will deliver a line badly in a movie (Oddly I dont think there was anything wrong with the one the RLM guys decided to use to point this out) but on the whole I think he is pretty underated as an actor. Has The Rock ever delivered a performance on the level of Arnolds in Maggie for example?
Seeing this in the theater in '87, the atmosphere in the theater was electric. When Jesse Ventura broke out the minigun I thought my head was going to blow off.
Back in 1987, my mind was blown with the predator vision. It was the first time I'd seen infrared on film. That and the "bunch of slack jawed fa**ots" line. So memorable.
I saw this re:View pop up in my recommendations and I remembered it just not sitting right with me when I first watched it, and it's not just because Jay and Jack lack the sexual tyrannosaurusness to truly appreciate this movie. I was reminded in the comments, that it's because they don't heap praise on Kevin Peter Hall who played the Predator. Kevin Peter Hall made the Predator a character. No other actor or stunt man that has put on a Predator costume has looked like anything other than a guy in a rubber suit. Kevin Peter Hall moved with incredible grace and agility that made that enormous creature truly intimidating and menacing. Look at the shot where you see the Predator jumping from rock to rock; it's like he's floating. It's a 2.3 metre tall monster that weighs about 300 kilograms and he's floating through the air like a ballerina. You just don't expect a monster that huge to move with the poise and dexterity of a dancer, but that's exactly what Kevin Peter Hall brought to the role, and that's what made it the Predator. It's not a laughable rubber suited monster, which is what all the sequels to Predator and Predator 2 have been. Clumsy, under-sized, rubber suited monsters - stunt men struggling to move and act. The Predator from Predator 1 and 2 was a terrifying unstoppable force that could not be overcome with strength or skill. When Predator and Predator 2 are talked about, Kevin Peter Hall must be mentioned and he must be given the attention and respect his contribution deserves. Also, he was the helicopter pilot at the end.
The reason it looks like he's floating in the rock scene is cause they definitely overcranked the camera. Probably to 36fps (or something similar). Having said that, I do agree. He brought a great performance, made a memorable character, and it's a shame he doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
@@ianofwater5188 I watched the video later than anyone, and made a similar joke. I'm seeing it a lot here...maybe we; the CZcams commenters are the real hack frauds...
Honestly I've never had a problem with Arnies acting, yes you wouldn't put him in a purely character driven drama, but for the action stuff he's in it fits perfectly well, especially with how emotive he is with his face, in a drama film it'd be silly, but in an action film it's kinda just what you want as you don't want long rambles about how people are feeling.
That is probably the fairest analysis I’ve read about him. Yes he would be horrendous in a period drama but he works in action films. His acting did develop and improve.
@@nopy99 Yes but he wouldn’t be a good fit for a period drama, it’s not the same. He would not make a good Darcy. Pride and Prejudice with Arnie would be a good laugh however.
What I've always loved about the 'deforestation scene' is the absolute trust that they have for each other. It actually demonstrates some subtle characterisation. They all step in without a second of hesitation and mow down the jungle.
As the matter of fact, several years ago one person made special cut of Predator, where he removed every spoken line. The final cut was about 1 hour 20 minutes and it's awesome.
Jay and Jack are right about the tight simplicity of the script, and appreciate that there's no clunky exposition scene where one character tells the others (and the audience) about the history of the Predator. There kind-of _is_ such a moment, though, when Anna talks about the local folklore and describes how in the hottest summers, the villages would be stalked by "the beast that makes trophies of men". As far as I can tell, that scene is pretty much the only reason that character is in the movie (it would be easy enough to alter the script to exclude her), but fortunately they don't dwell on it and events move on quickly to where it doesn't really matter.
13:45 Fun-fact: In the original concept, the movie was just supposed to showcase Dutch going up against the Predator without any other troops. However, Arnold felt that the character would need a whole squad with him during his mission.
@@carlosmontesinos1544 For sure. It was definitely missing a cabin by the lake scene where the misunderstood rebel / punk kid is about to make out with the way-too-hot-for-him girl - and then they both get slashed to death by the monster.
Yeah i agree i actually think that this is the best Arnie has ever acted in a film, i felt like he was the leader of that team and he somehow was able to lead them and not be a big shot. The relationship between Dutch and Dillon was also great!
This character is a guy that spent his life in spec ops, he doesn't talk for a living. His line delivery is perfectly fitting for his character. The directing and Arnold's (and other characters) expressions tell the story, not the lines of dialogue. I served in the military, I know personally that many of my fellow soldiers were not very eloquent in their speech.
Holy shit, Jack is still alive! I wasn't so sure after the ending of Previously Recorded, glad to see he's fine. Shame about what happened to Rich Evans though, R.I.P.
I'm scratching my dumb head about the "actual" hidden misogyny of Predator. In Commando we establish that "You're a funny guy, Sully, that's why I'm going to kill you last", i.e. if you have good qualities you die later; bad qualities => die earlier. So I buy that. But the guy telling vagina jokes-isn't he objectifying women and treating them as merely a tool for male sexual gratification, while reinforcing unrealistic beauty and vaginal tightness standards? Isn't killing him first a feminist statement, "hey, no pussy jokes"? And the vagina monster is the equal of men. In fact it's the equal of some of the best men. Even more, it beats a handful of men. That says vagina monsters (women) are at the very least the equal of manly mans. Of course the defeat of the predator by a phallic object symbolizes the oppressive nature of the patriarchy. The fact that it comes from above symbolizes the glass ceiling. So really we should be talking about the hidden feminism of Predator. Either that, or I'm talking out of my womandible hole again. ;-)
My manager at my previous job was genuinely taken aback and hurt when I mentioned that Commando hasn't aged well. I even said it in the context of "That's why it's so enjoyable", but I think he genuinely placed it on the same tier as something like Die Hard or Predator. He would even passive-aggressively reference it in conversation throughout the years, like "Well, you hate Commando so I'll take your opinion with a grain of salt". It was one of those really profound realizations that our perceptions of the world can be completely different from one another.
It’s the „you youngsters“ syndrome. Show predator, die hard or T2 to a 20 year old and they will tell you how it’s a semi boring oldschool movie, that couldn’t hold a candle to aquaman 2. in Reverse: Watch a groundbreaking action movie from the 50s 60s 70s ( depends on when you were born) and you notice how it’s kinda oldfashioned. Getting older makes you appreciate art from older times, but we all still go through our formative years.
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Jimmy De'Souza, besides ruining someone else's career or actually being sexually assulted, I don't see how the accusers gained anything. You really believe ALL of these people are innocent?
i always loved the scene early on when dillon, dutch and his team are on the helicopter preparing to rescue the hostages. it established the close relationship between blain and mac early on and shows how well the team functions together. blain offers his chewing tobacco to mac first, then helps himself, then offers it to everyone else on the helicopter. i thought the whole team had good chemistry, even if much of it was short since, well, people start dying pretty fast.
Yeah me too. I caught an edited version on ITV or BBC1 here in the UK. It removed Dillon's arm getting blown off, and instead cut to the others hearing him screaming in the distance
I know they dismissed her as "Lady" but I think Elpidia Carillo is vital to the film if only because she's the one who calls the Predator El Diablo que hace trofeos de los hombres. Man that's a badass name
Carrillo is also the only one of the main cast who had anything like personal experience with anything that happens in this movie (minus the space alien, of course). She spent her childhood being hunted by killers, criminals who gunned down her brother and her father before she turned ten. Look up her biography some time. In comparison, it makes the rest of the cast's lives seem like they grew up taking tea with the Queen of England.
In fact, it's the From Dusk Till Dawn moment -- "The jungle is hot this summer, always in the hottest summer do the monsters come" -- vital bit of fear-atmosphere in an already-pretty-amped-up film.
Weeeeell.... we do have one exposition character: Stare Lady who tells the myth from her village of "el diablo cazador de hombres" and "el que hace trofeos de los hombres" to let us know about the Predator's preference for heat and the trophy concept. It's less than a minute of screen time, so it's not much of a dump. I'd still count it as exposition though, especially as the character's only other purpose is to explain that the Predator doesn't kill anyone unarmed.
LOL... no. Carrillo's haunted performance is crucial to what makes this movie work; at 25, this was her fifth Hollywood movie. She'd just played a lead role in Oliver Stone's _Salvador,_ and you better believe she won this role for a reason. Go check out how much more stone-cold brutal her bio is compared to the rest of the main cast. She came to this movie genuinely prepared for it because of how she grew up. Next to her life story, Arnold Schwarzenegger looks like a mincing princess.
Been waiting for this retro review for ages now. The grandfather of 80s machismo action cinema. It's aged like fine wine. I've watched this film more times than I can count, and it continues to get better with each passing year. If the concept of a masterpiece is gauged by how many times you can watch an expertly crafted film without it feeling like a chore (no matter how ridiculous the plot), I would consider Predator a masterpiece. Let's not forget that the final half hour of this film is damn near like a silent film. Unique for its time and even now.
i remember watching it in the cinema with my dad who was a bodybuilder. We have never seen Arnold being so scared in movies and sent airborne after a punch. And we werent expecting it to be an alien movie! it was the nicest suprised in movies ive ever had. and the concept of alien was very new to me. I thought it its a hi tech russian soldier or a wild beast but it was wayyy better! and the theme soundtrack.....immortal status
It's much of the movie's themes summed up right there, its subversion of '80s action movies, the creature backhanding Arnold through the air away from itself.
The cinematography is so naturalistic for an action movie. colors look so soft, great skin tones. Makes the violence feel all that more real. Great cinematography.
You missed Hunt of The Red October that was also phenomenal by McTiernan. He is very skilled in creating an atmosphere, Medicine Man is a good example, it's an ok movie but the tropical jungle atmosphere is amazing. I think Predator and the Red October were so good because of combining this with action scene skills.
This movie has aged very well, all fx are practical and kept to a minimum (unlike the wild CG fests of today) and that helps to keep it fresh looking even today.
I recall reading he was brought in to spy on McTiernan and report back to the execs. Then, he could take over directing the movie if they needed him to.
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Not according to him. In the DVD making of he literally says "I did nothing." They had a bunch of people try to write and rewrite things and ultimately none of it was used.
Thank you for reviewing this. One of my all-time favourites. If you’re discussing Arnie’s acting and the final act turning primal, you need to mention his scream in the woods when he invites the Predator to do battle. You may say he’s not a great actor, but there are some things he was simply perfect for - and letting out the single greatest war cry ever was one of them. ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Sven holds the record for person killed on screen most by Arnold Schwarzenegger. He was also the retired Gladiator Champion in Gladiator who was brought out of retirement to kill Maximus.
The end of Pedator 2 is a nod to a graphic novel/comic where the Predator comes to pirate times in the 1700s and Adoline is some badass pirate that earns that predator's respect.
I could be wrong but I remember hearing at one point in my life that the studio was constantly criticizing a supposed lack of "guns and violence/action" in the movie, which really annoyed John McTiernan, so he went and filmed that scene where they all fire into the jungle and made it purposely as over the top as could be to silence them.
The team wasting all that ammo to do little more than cut down some jungle brush ended up as one of the more pointed criticisms of United States foreign policy in this movie, and boy, are there a lot of them.
It took 13 cuts for Liam Neeson to jump that fence when it should have only Taken 3.
Ba dum tsssh
The cuts make it look like he just drops back on the same side.
Somehow this is the worst yet best comment I have ever seen
I see what you did there
Sometimes you just get poo brains
And even later, when Arnold gets the upper hand and the predator can't see him, the Predator starts firing in all directions. Their roles had switched places.
"Shane Black, you can't go wrong"
Quotes that did not age well...
the big oof
Watching this again and I immediately went to the comments at that line.
The comment I was going to make after hearing that and it's the top comment.
douche chills
What he do?
Dutch may have killed *a* Predator, but Shane Black killed its entire franchise. Now that's impressive!
He also helped start a franchise with his script doctoring of the first Predator.
😂😂😂
"I brought you into this world, it's only fitting I should take you out of it."
He's not judge judy and executioner!
Oh Fawk...Yea i feel yea
"Some people don't like Predator."
We call those people wrong where I come from.
+retlaw83 Always put the punchline at the end of the sentence.
Where I come from, we call those people... wrong.🥁
@@andrewdevine3920 So's your mother.
*The* Predator itself has an awesome design though. You can't argue with that.
It's only boring and bad if you're a bitch.
Just a Predator on his ship typing responses on CZcams.
"This movie was bullshit. The predator should've won"
My theory: Predator is the distillation of a decade of Vietnam movies.
Fighting an enemy they don't understand in the jungle
Beautiful allegory
Similar to Aliens
That's an amazing theory of yours!! Nobody EVER thought of THAT in the last 30 years! Gooood for you...
i think the same for the fight on endor in star wars 6
It's more accurately a play on the classic short story The Most Dangerous Game.
Predator 2 happens in 1997 because 1997 was a predicted "El Niño" year. El Niño is a semi-regular phenonom in which warm air currents move across the pacific ocean, causing extreme heat waves and drought. This repeatable event has been noted for hundreds of years. 1715, the date on the old gun, was also an El Nino year.
It's also Chris Farley's greatest role
That makes perfect sense
Besides el niño means... The kid, so...
But we got Gary Busey's teeth. And also Gary Busey..
@@cihuacoatl1887 El niño means "the child" and "the child" means "Baby Yoda" Ergo, El niño is actually caused by Baby Yoda using his force powers. Checkmate Sithers.
People forget that Jesse Ventura actually WAS a Navy Seal (UDT-Vietnam), and pulled strings to get a REAL army training officer to the locations to train the rest of the actors both in fitness and, more importantly, weapons handling and operational movement... This made a big impact on McTiernan and the overall feel of the film, as the actors really had to work hard, not just for the film, but for learning HOW to portray their characters!
They showed off Arnold's muscles not just to show off but to impress upon the audience how that Dutch was a pinnacle of a human specimen so when he fights the Predator mano a ma·no, the audience is that much more impressed with the Predator's strength.
Exactly. Dutch is built up to be the absolute best humanity has to offer in terms of a warrior to fight the Predator.
Exactly what I thought on seeing this nearly 30 years ago.
"They"? The director and writer?
They showed off his muscles by having him point a fully loaded M-16 rifle at one of his friends, and with his finger on the trigger at the same time? In that case they also showed what a complete moron he was at the same time!
@@white-dragon4424 things only people who handle guns notice unfortunately
Predator is fantastic with just subtitles, I'm deaf and I enjoy that movie a great deal. the physical acting and atmosphere leading up to the final showdown set the mood so well, it's a very well made movie.
Temmie Plays!
This made me happy.
Temmie Plays Too bad you can't hear the soundtrack. It's one of the best music of all action movies. Tribal drums and orchestra and everything. Epic.
+banjotoothlessbill Too bad you don't have the smarts or culture to appreciate it. "Epic", my ass, get off the Internet and learn something.
Arnold's accent is platinum
That's cool info. I can tell my fiancee this is more reason why she should watch Predator with me, her being hard of hearing. Main reason still being it's Predator of course.
What I also like about Predator, when you consider the "slasher" elements, is that these men are no fools. They investigate their environment and ask questions most audience members would. The answers often vaguely and cryptically offered by "Billy" ("We're all gonna die.") It's the same reason Jaws was so beloved. These are not idiots being stalked by a super predator. They're cunning, strong, and completely understand the FUBAR elements of their predicament.
And in the end, they fuck up not because they don’t understand the threat, but because of their own hubris
Contrast that to the new Alien movies in which teams of scientists and soldiers act like if they had crewed the ship with the first randos that happen to come across. Then they wonder why those movies feel ridiculous.
@@alejandor4870 Yup, that's one thing that _Alien,_ _Predator_ and _The Thing_ all understand, and what many of their imitators, including some movies in those same franchises, don't: part of the dread of a horror movie is people screwing up and getting hurt or killed for it, _but characters don't have to act stupid to screw up._
Good words
@@MegaZeta Yeah that's why 28 Days Later works and the sequels don't. In the original, even when characters make wrong decisions, they're not stupid. In the sequels everyone just does whatever they have to do to make the plot happen.
"Can't go wrong with Shane Black." *Roundabout plays*
predator was great
Talking about the new movie
Seeing JoJo references under my RLM gives me joy
@@cloudsombrero
You're right, Predator was great. The Predator sucked though and this is coming from a huge fan who's read into the deep lore of the Yautja. This may be off topic, but I think they need to do their own research for the stuff they want to critique because the movie Predators is not set on Yautja Prime, which is the homeworld of the Yautja. It takes place on the Game Preserve Planet.
@@WondrousLanternProductions yeah. Total failure
Predator 2 is filmed in "concrete jungle." And no one can convince me the makers of the movie didn't think of it like that.
Also watching this re:View... yeah, Van Damme most likely didn't want to be in a rubber costume, because notice there is not a single mention of Kevin Peter Hall in this 30 min video, despite the fact he played in both of the Predator movies and basically made the monster what it is.
but that's different. We would acknowledge Van Damme if he played Predator because he was already a known actor. The reason we don't talk about Hall is because he doesn't really have any other relevant roles. For Van Damme, this film would have merely been an accolade.
You fuckers put some respect on Kevin Peter Hall's name. That man made the Predator films what they are. Arnold might have been the highest billed actor but Kevin Peter Hall held the title role. Not only did he play the Predator, he also guest-starred on an episode of Night Court and Star Trek TNG adding to his contributions of the RedLetterMedia DeepLore
Not to mention playing Harry in Harry and the Hendersons... come on, man.
Also worth noting, originally Predator 2 was going to be based on Concrete Jungle the novel/ comic in which the hardened cop also has questions about the whereabouts of his brother Dutch Schaeffer. I guess that would've been too much coincidence though.
Yeah, Kevin Peter. What great physicality. That was a guy who really knew how to move in a latex suit in an extremely convincing way. What a tragedy he died so young.
Governor of California: "If it bleeds, we can kill it."
Governor of Minnesota: "I ain't got time to bleed."
Governor of Minnesota: _bleeds quite a lot, then dies like an animal_
Wait. What happened to said governor of Minnesota?
@@MrTigracho He has a show on RT called "The World According To Jesse" That's what he does now anyway.
@@ChrisSmith-bh2hg I started typing a joke but that's actually quite sad.
I just realized Predator stars 2 future Governors.
Predator is the PERFECT example of a B-movie made with A-movie quality. Those are my favorite types of films: shameless genre scripts written with passion and made with excellent direction, cinematography, editing, and music scoring.
Dredd( 2012) is one of those movies
@markopetricek4630 The CGI blood was an eyesore though
Robocop and of course, The Terminator.
RIP Billy. Even though you've lost, the challenge itself was manly and glorious.
Defiantly a trophy story for the grandkids
He never actually did anything in the movie...
@@johndawhale3197 He was the only one who realized they were being hunted...literally the only one..
@@nickhewes6860 Yes, but his knowledge did not help at all! They were still fucked!
@@nickhewes6860 Billy was also the first one to realize the Predator was willing to 1v1 if he tossed the gun and challenged him to a duel to buy Arnold, Pancho and the Lady time to get to the extraction. Later on Arnold understood the Predator wants a challenge and stopped the Lady from using the gun, drawing the Predator to himself as the last remaining adversary.
Oh my gosh I thought I was losing my mind - every time I try to talk about Predator people roll there eyes as if it's a dumb action movie. This is the only discussion that talks about the high level craftsmanship involved in making that movie.
You should check out on Collative Learning's channel the analysis of Dillon's death scene. There you'll see how really high level their craftsmanship was! And why this movie is much more than a dumb action movie.
No, there are plenty of discussions of that
If they don't understand Predator they know too little about movies for a conversation to be possible.
You might as well explain a jet engine to a caveman.
Hahahaha i know the feeling. A coworker of mine who is 20 said to me one day "whats with the movie Predator, you are always referencing that more than anything else"
Thats was when he told me he hasnt seen it before and didnt know how highly regarded its held by older people. It broke my brain for a minute that a male alive hasnt seen Predator
@Irina O ALOT of people reference old Arnold Schwarzenneger movies at work. Uhhhh.... Tour guide salesmen for Tour above a city in a Helicopter.
Deliveryman or pizza drivers, basically any job that requires someone to leave but reassure them of his return.
Defense Lawyers or anyother profession that after work will tell you in one sentence how they were dishonest.
Aaaaaaaand any worker in a warehouse that has sales offices, and they often give Salesmen highfives that result in suspended arm wrestling competitions.
O, also anyone who works in a bilingual company that has to tell their baby that they will see them when they return again.
Lots of people
Man, 1987 was an awesome year for movies! This, Lethal Weapon, Robocop, Full Metal Jacket, Evil Dead II, Princess Bride, etc.
Duggy holy cribbity crap!
That was one hell of a summer!
Jesus those all came out in the same year? My god how far we have fallen....
the year I was born! it was also a great year for videogames (Contra, Mega Man, Maniac Mansion, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Wizards & Warriors, Phantasy Star, Double Dragon, Bionic Commando, Shinobi, Rygar, R-Type...)
84 and 89 are up there as well.
1994 had a good run too.
"If it bleeds... we can kill it"
Talking about greatest one-liners in film history
Love the part when Jay says "They don't have that part in the movie where the predator is explained by a character that knows about it", since that's exactly what they did with Laurence Fishbourne's character in "Predators" lol.
Watching this movie will turn you into a sexual Tyrannosaurus!
You did notice what happened to the character who delivered that line, right? And why?
A GODDAMN sexual tyrannosaurus.
AVP Requiem could easily be a BOTW selection.
At least they kill a kid in that movie
Pregnant women alien factories
Too fucking dark
@C Wilson gtfo the AVP movies are traaaaash. The games are good tho
Jason Stokes Not gonna lie, I like any movie that kills a kid. Few movies have the balls to do that, especially if it's a violent death - cancer or something doesn't count.
"It's Shane Black, it's Predator. You can't go wrong."
Narrator: "But it did go wrong. It went very wrong."
So, my girlfriend and I recently watched Predator for the first time. We were streaming it, and right around the "girl almost gets away from Carl Weathers" scene, the audio got caught in a loop -- nothing but jungle noises and ominous music that somehow was looping peefectly. Neither one of us was sure if the audio was glitching or not for a good while, because the non-verbal storytelling was just so goddamn good.
Let's not forget the awesome score of Alan Silvestri. Really ties the movie together
You mean the soundtrack that was lost until 2003
Nice marmot
It really tied the room together
Yeah, he was on fire in the 1980's. These days...ugh...
@@vincentknight27 you son of a b****. I was about to make that joke. I'm calling the cops.
I agree with Jay about the opening scene of this and The Thing. We didn't need to see the spaceship crash.
I think it helps plant a nice subliminal seed in your mind for the science-fiction aspect of the film. It's the perfect little tease for what is to come. By the time Arnold and Carl are shaking hands you've forgotten about the ship coming to Earth.
It's funny to see how studios always thought audiences were dumb
It would have worked either way. You know they're walking into something exceptional, an extra layer going on, you get the strong protaganists and antagonist - but as a surprise element for the audience and characters it would work without it also.
@@athenajaxon2397 I disagree, respectfully. I think it's Hammersmash logic, like "THE STUPID FUCKIN IDOTS WHO WATCH OUR MOVIES WON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE SPACE ALIEN WITH FREAKY SKIN AND CRAB FACE IS A SPACE ALIEN! THEY'LL BE SITTING THERE WONDERING WHY A MUSCULAR RASTAFARIAN IS HARASSING THESE SOLDIERS!" so they paste in a heavy-handed Roger Corman-esque special effect.
It's the old Hitchcock difference between suspense and surprise. If there's a bomb under a table, and the audience knows it's there, there's suspense. But if it suddenly goes off and no one knew it was there, then it's a surprise. Both movies obviously went for suspense, but I actually think surprise works better - as both spend a lot of time building suspense anyway after the opening shot.
Gary Busey's vanishing torso aside, the warehouse scene in Predator 2 is one of my favourites of all time. An elite team who (having debriefed Dutch) know what the Predator is about and so prep accordingly to ambush him. They have heat suits to block the infrared, prep the place so its cloak won't work - the hunter has become the hunted as they skulk through the dark warehouse, the Predator unable to see them but slowly getting suspicious somethings up. The Predator adjusts his visor through the spectrum until he catches the light off their UV torches and then all hell breaks loose.
What makes the first film such a classic is the suprising amount of heart it has - McTiernan actually gives these characters great moments and when they die you feel bad for them.
The original design for the Predator was actually vastly different that what they went with in the final film. It was very close to Rich Evans.
The horrid beast known only as Rich Evans, cackling maniacally as he stomps through the humid jungle, ruthlessly murdering all in his path
Yeah, they had to change it as it was too much of an apex predator to actually lose in the end.
"There's somethin' out there, waitin' for us; and it ain't no man."
Billy knew.
Anna gave the most chilling description of what they were dealing with when she referred to it as ""El Diablo que hace trofeos de los hombres" the demon who makes trophies of man.
Como se dice "Old Lady In The Walls who makes trophies of men?"
"We're all gonna die."
You know what would have been a funny movie? A right-after type sequel wherein a bunch of predators are scouring the Earth trying to find Arnold, not to hunt him or anything, but to give him a trophy. Since he defeated the predator in the movie, he's technically entitled to a trophy, but no one was around to give him one, and so predator rules demand that a gang of like half a dozen predators just wander from city to city trying to find him and give him one of the dead predator's trophies.
to the tone of Star Trek 4: The Whale movie. A comedy.
@@tylerwhitney3443 Predators discovering soul food…
@@josephdevon6068 One predator ends up getting lost from the group, but you only see him again at the end and he has a wife and is wearing matching baseball caps with his adopted human son since he decides to stay on earth.
@@K3end0 Oh no...Dark Fate memories are crawling back in my head...
Nah fuck that, that would be shit
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Save it for *THE PREDATOR*
Predator was my first R rated movie experience as a kid. My dad let me watch it with him, much to the chagrin of my mom. It was a rite of passage that I cherish to this day.
When Jay says the Rock can actually act, I almost did a spit take. Rock plays the same character just like Arnold.
This film is definitely Arnold's best performance. Have to disagree that his delivery is bad. Strange accent, yes, but I find him totally convincing in the role.
Thank you. I scrolled all the way down to see if someone would comment. I love Arnold. This was the ONLY movie I've ever seen him in where I didn't feel like he was acting. He was completely believable and part of the reason the movie runs so smooth.
Absolutely! Predator is basically the only movie that Arnold actually really ACTS in! He feels the most real and true to his character in Predator, compared to his other roles.
I couldn't tell what he said after he tried to hit the Predator with the tree branch as a kid. I thought he was speaking German "Badadeeah" but now I know he's saying "Bad idea" and I chuckle everytime 😂
Billy earned the Predator's respect.
You shouldn't shit on other cultures. That's not PC, brah
Nothing says respect quite like amateur spinal surgery.
He also tried to take it on head-to-head and died for his trouble. Schwarzenegger's character learns from the error, and by the end, he knows better: he runs, he hides, he sets traps, he gets the creature to kill itself. Dutch triumphs because he realizes that a head-to-head confrontation will end with his opponent destroying him.
Arnold's acting is actually great in this. AS AN ACTOR! Yeah, I said it!
This and True Lies is some of his best work. Also Junior.
Sometimes Arnold will deliver a line badly in a movie (Oddly I dont think there was anything wrong with the one the RLM guys decided to use to point this out) but on the whole I think he is pretty underated as an actor. Has The Rock ever delivered a performance on the level of Arnolds in Maggie for example?
Glad someone mentioned Maggie. That movie wouldn't be anywhere near as good if not for Arnold's subtle, vulnerable performance.
Yeah, he was fine in this, not great, but he worked here. He was great as the Terminator, though.
He was also great in Collateral Damage. Horrible movie but his finest performance to date.
Seeing this in the theater in '87, the atmosphere in the theater was electric. When Jesse Ventura broke out the minigun I thought my head was going to blow off.
I still remember when I was sick and my dad took off from work and we spent the day watching Predator, Commando, and Total Recall.
What a wonderful day.
Back in 1987, my mind was blown with the predator vision. It was the first time I'd seen infrared on film.
That and the "bunch of slack jawed fa**ots" line. So memorable.
I saw this comment right when he said it 3:50
Great movie! Watch it again!
The Predator stalks those who reek of testosterone, gun powder, and swamp nuts.
But kevin spacey attacked young men/boys
I saw this re:View pop up in my recommendations and I remembered it just not sitting right with me when I first watched it, and it's not just because Jay and Jack lack the sexual tyrannosaurusness to truly appreciate this movie.
I was reminded in the comments, that it's because they don't heap praise on Kevin Peter Hall who played the Predator.
Kevin Peter Hall made the Predator a character. No other actor or stunt man that has put on a Predator costume has looked like anything other than a guy in a rubber suit.
Kevin Peter Hall moved with incredible grace and agility that made that enormous creature truly intimidating and menacing. Look at the shot where you see the Predator jumping from rock to rock; it's like he's floating. It's a 2.3 metre tall monster that weighs about 300 kilograms and he's floating through the air like a ballerina. You just don't expect a monster that huge to move with the poise and dexterity of a dancer, but that's exactly what Kevin Peter Hall brought to the role, and that's what made it the Predator. It's not a laughable rubber suited monster, which is what all the sequels to Predator and Predator 2 have been. Clumsy, under-sized, rubber suited monsters - stunt men struggling to move and act. The Predator from Predator 1 and 2 was a terrifying unstoppable force that could not be overcome with strength or skill.
When Predator and Predator 2 are talked about, Kevin Peter Hall must be mentioned and he must be given the attention and respect his contribution deserves.
Also, he was the helicopter pilot at the end.
He does such a great job playing the predator, it's easy to forget that it's a human playing the predator. It's like the predator itself WAS an actor.
The reason it looks like he's floating in the rock scene is cause they definitely overcranked the camera. Probably to 36fps (or something similar).
Having said that, I do agree. He brought a great performance, made a memorable character, and it's a shame he doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
He got to da choppa as well
Leveling the forest is one of the coolest scenes of all time.
Indeed and it was mostly done with strings.
#1 cause of Amazon deforestation: mini-guns
I’d kill for a re:View of Suspiria before the remake drops this November
October is before then, and it would be nice for a spooky BOTW, where it's just exploitation flicks.
I'd love to see Rich watch
"I spit in your grave"
Would be amazing, but these hack frauds won't do it 😂😂
@@insomatic420 And now you're owned.
The only Predator RLM should be worrying about is Rich Evans
Ian of Water This fan base truly is a pack of degenerates ahahaha
Ian of Water very cool
@@ianofwater5188 I watched the video later than anyone, and made a similar joke.
I'm seeing it a lot here...maybe we; the CZcams commenters are the real hack frauds...
After the review of Pass Thru I thought it would be Neil Breen.
Who’s Rich Evans? He sounds like an okay guy, will he be in future reviews?
Honestly I've never had a problem with Arnies acting, yes you wouldn't put him in a purely character driven drama, but for the action stuff he's in it fits perfectly well, especially with how emotive he is with his face, in a drama film it'd be silly, but in an action film it's kinda just what you want as you don't want long rambles about how people are feeling.
That is probably the fairest analysis I’ve read about him. Yes he would be horrendous in a period drama but he works in action films. His acting did develop and improve.
Aftermath staring Arnie is a drama based on real life.
@@nopy99 Yes but he wouldn’t be a good fit for a period drama, it’s not the same. He would not make a good Darcy. Pride and Prejudice with Arnie would be a good laugh however.
What I've always loved about the 'deforestation scene' is the absolute trust that they have for each other. It actually demonstrates some subtle characterisation. They all step in without a second of hesitation and mow down the jungle.
Fun fact about Predator. Peter Cullen, the voice of Optimus Prime, also did the voice effects for the Predator.
it's more funny when you know peter was also the voice of eyore from whinney the pooh for decades.
And King Kong in King Kong Lives.
Pulling up to drive-thrus, ordering a whole bunch of food, then driving off. CHAOS.
I met Carl Weathers once. He said he had a stew to make, whatever that means...
Yurr Whatchamacallit it's alll in the hips
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I gave him my last $1100 for acting lessons, now I know all about the finer arts of stew making..
That means he didn't want to talk to you.
He doesn’t like ham. He loves it.
One of the greatest sci-fi movies ever made. Have watched it 1000 times, never gets old.
It's not really a sci fi movie.
@@cm9241 sci fi in concept i guess, really more of an action/horror with a very light sci fi settup
I was 10 years old when this came out. I remember seeing this with my grandma. She loved these movies as much as me.
The Predator is the key to all of this. He's a funnier character than we've had before.
Mr. Lucas, can we replace Jar Jar w/ vagina mouth?
As the matter of fact, several years ago one person made special cut of Predator, where he removed every spoken line. The final cut was about 1 hour 20 minutes and it's awesome.
Jay and Jack are right about the tight simplicity of the script, and appreciate that there's no clunky exposition scene where one character tells the others (and the audience) about the history of the Predator. There kind-of _is_ such a moment, though, when Anna talks about the local folklore and describes how in the hottest summers, the villages would be stalked by "the beast that makes trophies of men". As far as I can tell, that scene is pretty much the only reason that character is in the movie (it would be easy enough to alter the script to exclude her), but fortunately they don't dwell on it and events move on quickly to where it doesn't really matter.
The other main reason she is in the movie is... well she is literally the ONLY female character in the whole goddamned movie
@@johnhasso8908 What, the Predator isn't female? That's a sexist assumption.
Just kidding.
@@bryanekers3472 Yeah, actually, you can't rule that out, good point
13:45 Fun-fact: In the original concept, the movie was just supposed to showcase Dutch going up against the Predator without any other troops. However, Arnold felt that the character would need a whole squad with him during his mission.
To me Predator is the quintessential 80's movie.
The god triad of violence:
The Terminator
Robocop
The Predator
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For sure. It was definitely missing a cabin by the lake scene where the misunderstood rebel / punk kid is about to make out with the way-too-hot-for-him girl - and then they both get slashed to death by the monster.
I'd put Bloodsport and Kickboxer up there too. Not as epic but still worthy of a spot.
yall didn't talk about that amazing silvestri score cmon
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And within a year, he turned in his magnum opus, the score to Mac and Me.
"It's Shane Black, you can't go wrong"...
We last see Billy at 01:15:34, he screams at 01:15:39...
His fight lasted 5 seconds...
White Lion The only guy who was Arnold’s back up. RIP Billy
I would also mention the awesomeness that is Kevin Peter Halls movement in the suit, and the OST.
Definitely a "Dad movie".
I watched the shit out of this one with my dad...
You folks really nailed it.
"I mean, it's Shane Black. You can't go wrong."
Oof.
I totally forgot there was a shot of Predator flying in space.
To be fair, Jay, I don't see how Arnold's delivery of "My men are not expendable, and I don't do this kind of work" is bad.
Yeah i agree i actually think that this is the best Arnie has ever acted in a film, i felt like he was the leader of that team and he somehow was able to lead them and not be a big shot. The relationship between Dutch and Dillon was also great!
Remember that time Arnold says "My men are not expendable", and then 30 years later he was in "The Expendables"?
Yeah Arnold in general is not a fantastic actor but his performance in Predator is actually pretty good.
This character is a guy that spent his life in spec ops, he doesn't talk for a living. His line delivery is perfectly fitting for his character. The directing and Arnold's (and other characters) expressions tell the story, not the lines of dialogue. I served in the military, I know personally that many of my fellow soldiers were not very eloquent in their speech.
Holy shit, Jack is still alive!
I wasn't so sure after the ending of Previously Recorded, glad to see he's fine.
Shame about what happened to Rich Evans though, R.I.P.
Rich Evans is immortal.
Previously Recorded has ended?
They just didn't want to do it anymore. The audience wasn't growing the way they were hoping and it was getting repetitive.
Did something actually happen?
21:53 One million dislikes on the "Hidden mysoginy of Predator" video 🤣
My dumbass thought that was a real video.
Also the channel title is gold
I'm scratching my dumb head about the "actual" hidden misogyny of Predator.
In Commando we establish that "You're a funny guy, Sully, that's why I'm going to kill you last", i.e. if you have good qualities you die later; bad qualities => die earlier. So I buy that.
But the guy telling vagina jokes-isn't he objectifying women and treating them as merely a tool for male sexual gratification, while reinforcing unrealistic beauty and vaginal tightness standards? Isn't killing him first a feminist statement, "hey, no pussy jokes"?
And the vagina monster is the equal of men. In fact it's the equal of some of the best men. Even more, it beats a handful of men. That says vagina monsters (women) are at the very least the equal of manly mans.
Of course the defeat of the predator by a phallic object symbolizes the oppressive nature of the patriarchy. The fact that it comes from above symbolizes the glass ceiling.
So really we should be talking about the hidden feminism of Predator.
Either that, or I'm talking out of my womandible hole again.
;-)
My manager at my previous job was genuinely taken aback and hurt when I mentioned that Commando hasn't aged well. I even said it in the context of "That's why it's so enjoyable", but I think he genuinely placed it on the same tier as something like Die Hard or Predator. He would even passive-aggressively reference it in conversation throughout the years, like "Well, you hate Commando so I'll take your opinion with a grain of salt". It was one of those really profound realizations that our perceptions of the world can be completely different from one another.
Commando is a near perfect film. Almost every scene is brilliant. I'm with your manager 🤣
@@andrewtregoning it’s great schlock but nowhere near the level of die hard or predator which are actually good films
It’s the „you youngsters“ syndrome. Show predator, die hard or T2 to a 20 year old and they will tell you how it’s a semi boring oldschool movie, that couldn’t hold a candle to aquaman 2. in Reverse: Watch a groundbreaking action movie from the 50s 60s 70s ( depends on when you were born) and you notice how it’s kinda oldfashioned. Getting older makes you appreciate art from older times, but we all still go through our formative years.
@@jl.7739 this is wrong. films like the first predator do not age.
@@obscure.reference Commando is great, shut the fuck up you contrarian
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I believe someone tried to "out" him during the MeToo thing but it turned out he hadn't done anything. She just hated him for other reasons.
asia argento did
Jimmy De'Souza, besides ruining someone else's career or actually being sexually assulted, I don't see how the accusers gained anything. You really believe ALL of these people are innocent?
i always loved the scene early on when dillon, dutch and his team are on the helicopter preparing to rescue the hostages. it established the close relationship between blain and mac early on and shows how well the team functions together. blain offers his chewing tobacco to mac first, then helps himself, then offers it to everyone else on the helicopter. i thought the whole team had good chemistry, even if much of it was short since, well, people start dying pretty fast.
Good point! It makes Blain's death and Mac's response more meaningful and impactful.
Mac and Blain also regularly chatted throughout the movie and shared a flask.
Mac also mourns the most :(
Most importantly Sven-ole Thorsen was Killian's head of security "Sven" in another Arnold movie "The Running Man"
Its sad that steroids made him deaf
That also, fabulously, include Jesse the Body in all his glory
THANK YOU I couldn’t figure that out
When I was younger, the first time I watched it, I missed the spaceship part. So I had no idea what the deal was with the Predator being there.
You probably saw the earlier release of the film same as me. The spaceship part wasn't in it, as they said, it was added in later releases.
Yeah me too. I caught an edited version on ITV or BBC1 here in the UK.
It removed Dillon's arm getting blown off, and instead cut to the others hearing him screaming in the distance
I know they dismissed her as "Lady" but I think Elpidia Carillo is vital to the film if only because she's the one who calls the Predator El Diablo que hace trofeos de los hombres. Man that's a badass name
It means the demon who makes trophies of men in English. Predator is a badass name but that's poetically badass
Very good point.
@@tysonic777 diablo means devil and not demon
Carrillo is also the only one of the main cast who had anything like personal experience with anything that happens in this movie (minus the space alien, of course). She spent her childhood being hunted by killers, criminals who gunned down her brother and her father before she turned ten. Look up her biography some time. In comparison, it makes the rest of the cast's lives seem like they grew up taking tea with the Queen of England.
In fact, it's the From Dusk Till Dawn moment -- "The jungle is hot this summer, always in the hottest summer do the monsters come" -- vital bit of fear-atmosphere in an already-pretty-amped-up film.
Weeeeell.... we do have one exposition character: Stare Lady who tells the myth from her village of "el diablo cazador de hombres" and "el que hace trofeos de los hombres" to let us know about the Predator's preference for heat and the trophy concept. It's less than a minute of screen time, so it's not much of a dump. I'd still count it as exposition though, especially as the character's only other purpose is to explain that the Predator doesn't kill anyone unarmed.
Wonder if that's why they added the spaceship scene, in case viewers believes the lady was right about it being a demon
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LOL... no. Carrillo's haunted performance is crucial to what makes this movie work; at 25, this was her fifth Hollywood movie. She'd just played a lead role in Oliver Stone's _Salvador,_ and you better believe she won this role for a reason. Go check out how much more stone-cold brutal her bio is compared to the rest of the main cast. She came to this movie genuinely prepared for it because of how she grew up. Next to her life story, Arnold Schwarzenegger looks like a mincing princess.
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Revealing the spaceship at the end would have been better, especially if done in such a way to hint at a sequel.
Exactly
Been waiting for this retro review for ages now. The grandfather of 80s machismo action cinema. It's aged like fine wine. I've watched this film more times than I can count, and it continues to get better with each passing year. If the concept of a masterpiece is gauged by how many times you can watch an expertly crafted film without it feeling like a chore (no matter how ridiculous the plot), I would consider Predator a masterpiece. Let's not forget that the final half hour of this film is damn near like a silent film. Unique for its time and even now.
I found RLM in 2020, I have so much to binge now!
Welcome to our world.
Same
i remember watching it in the cinema with my dad who was a bodybuilder. We have never seen Arnold being so scared in movies and sent airborne after a punch. And we werent expecting it to be an alien movie!
it was the nicest suprised in movies ive ever had. and the concept of alien was very new to me. I thought it its a hi tech russian soldier or a wild beast but it was wayyy better!
and the theme soundtrack.....immortal status
It's much of the movie's themes summed up right there, its subversion of '80s action movies, the creature backhanding Arnold through the air away from itself.
This video should have just been 32 minutes of Rich Evans locked in a macho arm-wrestle handshake with the Showbiz Pizza Bear.
“What’s the matter, CIA got you pushing too many pencils?”
I really liked this film. My Husband asked me to watch it as he is a fan of this and I enjoyed reviewing it. Dillon you Son of a Beeech 😂.
The cinematography is so naturalistic for an action movie. colors look so soft, great skin tones. Makes the violence feel all that more real. Great cinematography.
Sometimes i wonder why jay knows all this obscure shit, but then i remember that he is jay
How could you forget that? I mean, it's right there in the name!
I'm surprised that neither of them mentioned that in the director commentary on the DVD John McTiernan sounds EXACTLY LIKE PLINKET!
Haven't you noticed? John McTiernan IS Mr. Plinkett!
oh my GAAAAAAAAAWWWWD!!!
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that Jay sounds like Steve Buscemi.
Grant Wilson It is! =D
Jay himself admited that he has Buscemi voice.
The first 10 seconds of Predator is the only thing that keeps the movie from being a 12/10
You missed Hunt of The Red October that was also phenomenal by McTiernan.
He is very skilled in creating an atmosphere, Medicine Man is a good example, it's an ok movie but the tropical jungle atmosphere is amazing.
I think Predator and the Red October were so good because of combining this with action scene skills.
Strange Brew, The Thing, now Predator...it's like their going through my personal Top 10.
Have they done Buckaroo Bonzai and Big Trouble in Little China?
Not in re:View, but I swear I've seen them discuss Buckaroo at some point.
The muscle scenes are fantastic marketing and trailer material. Screenshots of those scenes work well as photos in cinema magazines and posters.
You can take any shot from the movie and it's instantly iconic
"Dennis... in body mass aloooone"
"That's what I was trying to avoid, a conversation about body mass."
This movie has aged very well, all fx are practical and kept to a minimum (unlike the wild CG fests of today) and that helps to keep it fresh looking even today.
4:50 Shane Black has said repeatedly, he didn't do any rewrites on Predator. They brought him in, but ultimately they just had him in the movie.
Wasn't he writing Lethal Weapon?
I heard that too. He said the script was pretty much perfect
I recall reading he was brought in to spy on McTiernan and report back to the execs. Then, he could take over directing the movie if they needed him to.
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Not according to him. In the DVD making of he literally says "I did nothing." They had a bunch of people try to write and rewrite things and ultimately none of it was used.
Thank you for reviewing this. One of my all-time favourites.
If you’re discussing Arnie’s acting and the final act turning primal, you need to mention his scream in the woods when he invites the Predator to do battle.
You may say he’s not a great actor, but there are some things he was simply perfect for - and letting out the single greatest war cry ever was one of them.
ROARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
You spelt that wrong
Jack about The Predator: Its Shane Black, you can't go wrong
The Predator: Goes wrong
One of the best action movies. Sven ole is in the running man, with jesse ventura
He is in almost every arnie movie. They go way back
Oh Running Man . . . delicious, delicious cheese.
"I'll be back."
"Only in a rerun."
OOOOOOOOOH!
I was watching the Starship troopers re view just now. I was hungry for more.
Would you like to know more?
You know it, the only good bug is a dead bug.
Sven was also in another Jesse/Arnold movie..."The Running Man."
And fuckin' Conan the Barbarian.
And Hunt for Red October (JMcT directed)
And Kevin Bacon.
@@cappyjohnson1502 the best movie ever made !
Sven holds the record for person killed on screen most by Arnold Schwarzenegger.
He was also the retired Gladiator Champion in Gladiator who was brought out of retirement to kill Maximus.
The end of Pedator 2 is a nod to a graphic novel/comic where the Predator comes to pirate times in the 1700s and Adoline is some badass pirate that earns that predator's respect.
Sven-Ole Thorsen also played Tank in _Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future_ and I'm 95% certain he learned his lines phonetically.
I could be wrong but I remember hearing at one point in my life that the studio was constantly criticizing a supposed lack of "guns and violence/action" in the movie, which really annoyed John McTiernan, so he went and filmed that scene where they all fire into the jungle and made it purposely as over the top as could be to silence them.
You wanna play rough? Okay!!
The team wasting all that ammo to do little more than cut down some jungle brush ended up as one of the more pointed criticisms of United States foreign policy in this movie, and boy, are there a lot of them.
The best one out of all the film's nothing compares to the original Predator...this film is going to Stick Around....🤣
@@peeniz hello I did not know that. That's really cool. Thanks for letting me know. 👍
@@peeniz. Hello. Really.? I will look out for that next time. Nice one. Thanks. 👍
Another fun fact, I'm pretty sure Arnold improvised the stick around line
@@calvin4912. Nice one. I wonder if knock knock was his aswell. All the best. 🕶️
Predator 2 is better, fight me.
It's the best action movie...ever... A true masterpiece of Action & Sci fi
A really perfect music score / sound design (with the suspense drums) - should get more props
It was like spooky jungle version of the Terminator music.
The top half of Gary Busey went to rehab.