As another bit of history, Troll Ascetic being the most notable card with Hexproof before it was keyworded gave the nickname "Troll Shroud" for the ability.
it never clicked that leyline of sanctity stops edict effects. All I noticed while looking at bogles sideboards was that the leyline screwed up settle the wreckage.
Commander players call this voltron though that tends to include equipment as well. A popular commander that does this is Zur, the enchanter as he looks for auras when he attacks.
Notably Voltron doesn't always start with a creature that is always evasive or hard to interact with-- many Voltron commanders instead focus on advantage from the auras/equipment.
I love this series. Burned thru most of the videos going down memory lane the last two days. I finally decided to get into MTGO and took inspiration from Sram Auras for a Pioneer deck. W/ a few tweaks, it's still a stellar, stellar deck. Keep up the great work, man!
I love this series, as well as MTG top 10. Would it be possible to get some insights into the particular websites or applications you use to track down all this historical data?
2 other big sideboard changes in Modern Bogles has been the addition on 4× Force of Vigor for all the artifacts. Then 2× Suppression Field for all the Planeswalkers and abilities.
another great installment in the series! i have a minor suggestion to make, since i usually forget what format is being discussed when you're in the middle of talking about it. maybe you could put a small caption in the corner that says "format - legacy" in future videos? 😊
That Geist deck when it was in standard made my life miserable. It was difficult to play any archetype other than either itself or a heavily controlling deck with sweepers and counters. I was so happy when it rotated.
@@worgenzwithm14z It kinda is though. 1-mana hard removal is also toxic. MTG is honestly just a very toxic game, at least in anything but the lowest power formats. I think that's probably what most people enjoy about the game, but it is what it is. There's even an entire slice of the color pie devoted to shutting down your opponent so you can play solitaire in peace! The interesting part is seeing which flavor of toxicity can trump the others and how it does it.
FYI, at 4:35, "Fencing Ace" is misspelled "Fencing Age." Also, another thing that's worth mentioning about Spirit Link is that it can function as a form of pseudo-removal in a pinch: since the effect specifically says _"you_ gain that much life," you can enchant an opponent's creature with it to undo any damage it would deal to you. Finally, it would have been nice if you could have at least given a shout-out to Pauper, where Bogles is a viable archetype.
I know this sounds like a ton, but I was wondering if you could do a top tier list for the grand prix's over the years and which cities they've been held in
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I've always thought of hexproof as a very lazy mechanic. I still stand of the opinion that WotC should have kept Shroud as widespread evergreen mechanic over Hexproof.
This is why I love the new Ward mechanic, and I hope it eventually replaces Hexproof. I like the idea of targeting protection on a creature, but adding some counterplay built into the mechanic is really good design. It's one of the reasons I love Sedgemoor Witch so much.
I always thought that the shroud ability was too restrictive, but you're right that hexproof is too lazy and IMO stupidly one-sided. My solution would be to replace hexproof with the ability on Autumn Willow: it has shroud, but by paying one mana its controller can target it until the end of turn. That makes the first Aura cast each turn cost one more.
I love Boggles as an archetype. It's a flagrant fu to the conventional logic of the game and goes so far to make loading auras up on a creature good, which is one of the classic play patterns new players are attracted to. When Boggles or dedicated Lifegain are playable decks, that's fantastic for the game. They're great to onboard new players into competitive play, and it leaves to transition into more complex, consistently good strategies. Nothing can kill excitement for the game faster than jumping straight into heavy control or grindy midrange. Sometimes it's good to keep it simple
9:16 Maybe WotC purposely chose the name 'ward' for the balanced version of Hexproof... longtime successful MTG pros have been eternalized in cards before
I was hoping that I would enjoy the history or this deck. Unfortunately Dan Ward coming up in this reminded me not only how miserable this deck is but how easy it is to cheat with.
@@SadwichPunch2100 I understand what you're saying, and your comparison proves my point. You need "gg" for it to sound like goggles. Think of any word (like ogle) with one g, and you'll see it has to be pronounces that way.
@@NizzahonMagic Alright, you're right. Not from a strictly phonetic standpoint, there are plenty of words that contain "ogle" without the long o sound. However, when looking up the term "Bogle" it comes from an old English word for Hobgobblin, Phantom, or "Bogey". Now I've found websites who's audio examples are both the ways we pronounce it, but because it's origins lie in the term bogey, I will admit I'm wrong. Still doesn't sound right to me, but at least I learned something new.
As another bit of history, Troll Ascetic being the most notable card with Hexproof before it was keyworded gave the nickname "Troll Shroud" for the ability.
I would've loved to see the pauper boggles deck mentioned.
it never clicked that leyline of sanctity stops edict effects. All I noticed while looking at bogles sideboards was that the leyline screwed up settle the wreckage.
Yeah, at 7:00 even Reid Duke in 2013 ran a Dryad Arbor to be fetched at instant speed against edict effects
“I’m angry on the inside”
-boggles players
*reports*
-I'm in this comment and i don't like it.
Targeted harassment! 😂. He forgot about the big sideboard change in Modern of 4× Force of Vigor and 2× Suppression Field.
"I hate myself and soon you'll hate me almost as much" boggle players
Spot removal shouldn't be the answer to everything
-Boggles players
I would wager Nizzahon isn't too keen on ever playing a bogles deck. XD
"They open you up for a two for one!"
This deck is so mind bogling
Commander players call this voltron though that tends to include equipment as well.
A popular commander that does this is Zur, the enchanter as he looks for auras when he attacks.
Notably Voltron doesn't always start with a creature that is always evasive or hard to interact with-- many Voltron commanders instead focus on advantage from the auras/equipment.
I love this series. Burned thru most of the videos going down memory lane the last two days. I finally decided to get into MTGO and took inspiration from Sram Auras for a Pioneer deck. W/ a few tweaks, it's still a stellar, stellar deck. Keep up the great work, man!
Keen Sense draws cards from any damage the creature deals, not just combat damage. Gives it a lot of combo potential in other decks haha.
Yeah, Keen Sense, Curiosity, Ophidian Eye and Snake's Umbra don't mention COMBAT damage, only damage. Half of them break Niv-Mizzet right open in EDH.
LOVE your videos. The knowledge required to make these "bogles" my mind. Thank you for sharing and I wish you best of luck in the future.
Awesome series, this deserves a lot more attention
commenting to feed the algorithm. love your content Nizzahon!
Ah my favorite troll. Tho mot a aura. But I do miss equip him with a Loxodon Warhammer and just smash face. Lol
I love this series, as well as MTG top 10. Would it be possible to get some insights into the particular websites or applications you use to track down all this historical data?
The first net deck I built. Horizon Canopy really makes a difference when things aren't going well.
Can we PLEASE get a History of Merfolk Decks?
2 other big sideboard changes in Modern Bogles has been the addition on 4× Force of Vigor for all the artifacts. Then 2× Suppression Field for all the Planeswalkers and abilities.
Thopter sword could be a cool video another classic that has held on
I want to point out that Reid Duke's list was made by William Ljungberg, which can be considered the father of Modern Bogles.
My favorite deck
another great installment in the series! i have a minor suggestion to make, since i usually forget what format is being discussed when you're in the middle of talking about it. maybe you could put a small caption in the corner that says "format - legacy" in future videos? 😊
My favorite combo of all-time is Steel of the Godhead with Geist of Saint Traft.
That Geist deck when it was in standard made my life miserable. It was difficult to play any archetype other than either itself or a heavily controlling deck with sweepers and counters. I was so happy when it rotated.
"You built a deck entierly around creatures the other participants of the game can't participate with?" -MTGRemmy
"You can't interact with it."
"Fun!"
Bogles? Really?
can't use any of your four fatal pushes or four path to exiles on a hexproof creature, hexproof must be toxic!
@@worgenzwithm14z It kinda is though. 1-mana hard removal is also toxic. MTG is honestly just a very toxic game, at least in anything but the lowest power formats. I think that's probably what most people enjoy about the game, but it is what it is. There's even an entire slice of the color pie devoted to shutting down your opponent so you can play solitaire in peace! The interesting part is seeing which flavor of toxicity can trump the others and how it does it.
FYI, at 4:35, "Fencing Ace" is misspelled "Fencing Age."
Also, another thing that's worth mentioning about Spirit Link is that it can function as a form of pseudo-removal in a pinch: since the effect specifically says _"you_ gain that much life," you can enchant an opponent's creature with it to undo any damage it would deal to you.
Finally, it would have been nice if you could have at least given a shout-out to Pauper, where Bogles is a viable archetype.
IT'S HERE! BOGLES TIME BABY
I remember drafting armadillo cloak
Really interesting how every single version of this deck is built around mitigating and/or preventing the 2-for-1 risk.
Sliver history!
Player histories could be fun.
1:36 The "aura"gins / origins?
I see what you did there 👀👀👀
I know this sounds like a ton, but I was wondering if you could do a top tier list for the grand prix's over the years and which cities they've been held in
Oh god yes that would be awesome
Imagine that you are so good at using a certain keyword that WOtC names the entire keyword after you.
Please do Grixis Djinns & Efreets
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I've always thought of hexproof as a very lazy mechanic. I still stand of the opinion that WotC should have kept Shroud as widespread evergreen mechanic over Hexproof.
This is why I love the new Ward mechanic, and I hope it eventually replaces Hexproof. I like the idea of targeting protection on a creature, but adding some counterplay built into the mechanic is really good design. It's one of the reasons I love Sedgemoor Witch so much.
@@CanadianBaconPwnage I completely agree. Ward is the correct approach to this kind of mechanic
@@CanadianBaconPwnage I like the ward mechanic but I hate sedgemoor witch. She feels reasonably enough already without her ward ability.
spot removal is too prevalent and too good
hexproof helps keep the balance
believe it or not, creatures can be killed in combat!
I always thought that the shroud ability was too restrictive, but you're right that hexproof is too lazy and IMO stupidly one-sided. My solution would be to replace hexproof with the ability on Autumn Willow: it has shroud, but by paying one mana its controller can target it until the end of turn. That makes the first Aura cast each turn cost one more.
It’s time! It’s time! It’s deck history time!
Lol I use boggles in my chulie deck to win. People hate it. I simply loveeeeee it
Fuck yeah Bogles
I love Boggles as an archetype. It's a flagrant fu to the conventional logic of the game and goes so far to make loading auras up on a creature good, which is one of the classic play patterns new players are attracted to. When Boggles or dedicated Lifegain are playable decks, that's fantastic for the game. They're great to onboard new players into competitive play, and it leaves to transition into more complex, consistently good strategies. Nothing can kill excitement for the game faster than jumping straight into heavy control or grindy midrange. Sometimes it's good to keep it simple
9:16 Maybe WotC purposely chose the name 'ward' for the balanced version of Hexproof... longtime successful MTG pros have been eternalized in cards before
The only deck that makes magic a one player game
You have not played against Eggs. *That* is the only deck that makes magic a one-player game.
Storm????
Close, but nah
control
it's not prounced "Bog -goes" it's "Bwagwaggga!"
I was hoping that I would enjoy the history or this deck. Unfortunately Dan Ward coming up in this reminded me not only how miserable this deck is but how easy it is to cheat with.
Whats the story there?
: )
You've got a few bots in the comments
Bogles go first
inb4 people play boring draw-go control or combo decks complain that they can't use their 12 kill spells on hexproven creatures
"Portend" is a verb. The noun is "portent".
I don't play bogles so my comment only placed 4th
Nizzahon... you're a Boe-gles guy... I cringe everytime I hear it. It's Bog-les not Boegles...
That makes no sense phonetically.
@@NizzahonMagic rereading my comment, I wanna make sure it's understood. Bogles like Goggles not some other way.
@@SadwichPunch2100 I understand what you're saying, and your comparison proves my point. You need "gg" for it to sound like goggles. Think of any word (like ogle) with one g, and you'll see it has to be pronounces that way.
@@NizzahonMagic Alright, you're right. Not from a strictly phonetic standpoint, there are plenty of words that contain "ogle" without the long o sound. However, when looking up the term "Bogle" it comes from an old English word for Hobgobblin, Phantom, or "Bogey". Now I've found websites who's audio examples are both the ways we pronounce it, but because it's origins lie in the term bogey, I will admit I'm wrong. Still doesn't sound right to me, but at least I learned something new.
@@SadwichPunch2100 hm, the bogey thing is interesting, and yeah, proves my point haha