The Trans Venture Bro's Episode

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  • čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
  • Hunter Gathers and Dr. Mrs. The Monarch finally get their analysis as we dive into this hit animated comedy satire about Saturday morning super scientists, heroes and arch-nemesis'.
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  • @nayahanayates7778
    @nayahanayates7778 Před 5 dny +309

    Dr. Mrs. The Monarch has one of my favorite lines "You don't fight fire with fire, you fight it with water sweetie," QUEEN

    • @kerdnerl
      @kerdnerl Před 5 dny +1

      That is awesome, what episode is it from?

    • @Creator_indy
      @Creator_indy Před 4 dny +1

      @@kerdnerlwhat color is your clean suit is the name of the episode

    • @dawudhinton5754
      @dawudhinton5754 Před 4 dny +4

      Technically we do sometimes fight fire with fire, but her point still stands.

    • @theRiver_joan
      @theRiver_joan Před 4 dny +3

      Fuck I actually needed this quote in my life right now. What a fucking Queen.

  • @TheTheian
    @TheTheian Před 5 dny +388

    One small note: technically she is Mme. Councilwoman Dr. Mrs. The Monarch.

    • @Lectrikfro
      @Lectrikfro Před 4 dny +36

      Her name/title just getting longer was one of my favorite running gags in the show

    • @TheTheian
      @TheTheian Před 4 dny +26

      @@Lectrikfro Yep it was briefly also Dr. fiancé

    • @LordAKiraAndou
      @LordAKiraAndou Před 4 dny +20

      @@TheTheian then "Dr my wife"

  • @James.99
    @James.99 Před 5 dny +189

    Hunter just casually getting top and bottom surgery in a cave was wild.

    • @Lectrikfro
      @Lectrikfro Před 4 dny +29

      "Hunter Gathers got top and bottom surgery In a cave with a box of scraps!"
      "Sir, I'm not Hunter Gathers"

    • @FritzMonorail
      @FritzMonorail Před 4 dny +7

      @@Lectrikfro I understood that reference.

  • @Salubrious_Rex
    @Salubrious_Rex Před 5 dny +334

    A conversation I've had with my two best friends a few times over the years is how the way that Dr Mrs The Monarch is such a beacon of femininity and sex appeal has pavlov'd us into inseparably associating deep voices with those things. It's something that came up again when I came out as trans to them earlier this year and it's honestly made me feel more confident about how I sound, and not afraid to actually speak when I'm trying to present as feminine. Dr Mrs The Monarch's voice is way deeper than mine, and she's a veritable icon of womanhood so even if I do make efforts to change my voice as I transition I'm not going to worry over how I sound in the meantime.

    • @Alice-May
      @Alice-May Před 5 dny +11

      Hell yeah!

    • @Rehvengethedragon
      @Rehvengethedragon Před 5 dny +37

      I've always loved how quickly her deep voice just becomes part of who she is. Like yeah it's notable for 5 minutes but afterward I totally forgot about it and never noticed it again,
      Dr. Mrs has a deep voice, it doesn't feel any more notable than the fact Brock Sampson is blond.

    • @tinkrls3r
      @tinkrls3r Před 5 dny +10

      Also linn from bobs burgers voice I like alot

    • @NumeyNaomi
      @NumeyNaomi Před 3 dny +2

      You know, your post really helps me a lot. I finally started my MTF journey 2 months ago after 29 years of knowing and hiding. My cousin told me they were trans FTM and I was like, I gotta be strong now, why am I even hiding when they need someone now? I've known since I was 6 and I picked my name. Before that I went to the ER twice for picking up curling irons, took moms clothes to feel pretty, injected myself into her makeup process, and had hidden barbies I played with. My mom was colorblind so she let me pick out her clothes and jewlery every day, I never got to twll her before she died but I like to think she knew. So I was always me, even before I got asked my pronouns at 6 by Prof. wOak and actually made that decision all in a time when transgender was still "transsexual" and a "mental illness" 😅. My voice has always been jarring to me. Too high to pass as a dude and too low to feel fem. I always watched characters like Dr. Mrs the Monarch and Linn and felt seen in a way, but I don't think I ever thought about it like this until I read your comment. So, thanks, you are awesome!

    • @Salubrious_Rex
      @Salubrious_Rex Před 3 dny +2

      @NumeyNaomi Aw, thanks for your kind words and for sharing some of your own journey! I've realised that sharing our stories can really help others or share nice little lessons, plus it just feels good. If people are willing to share there's always going to be new perspectives on our own matters or good bits of advice to help us along, not to mention there's always going to be a tonne of people whose experiences overlap with our own to remind us we're not alone.

  • @SiRenfield
    @SiRenfield Před 5 dny +181

    I remember having this one weird dream where I accidentally ended up at a TERF convention somehow and got carried out of it in the arms of Brock Samson. So I guess he’s an ally according to my subconscious

    • @kerdnerl
      @kerdnerl Před 5 dny +15

      What was HE doing at the terf convention 🤨🤨🤨

    • @SiRenfield
      @SiRenfield Před 5 dny +28

      @@kerdnerl I think it was at unrelated event because this was set a hotel and I remember he was diving off a board while women were cheering. Then he had that big hero moment. Weirdest part is Brock Samson isn’t even my type, but I appreciate it I guess

    • @MaxEverywhereSystem
      @MaxEverywhereSystem Před 5 dny +18

      acording to poker night at the inventory hes related to ash williams from the evil dead whos like the forefather of tboy swag so i suppose it tracks

    • @James.99
      @James.99 Před 5 dny +16

      I had a nightmare about Brock Samson where he jammed his thumbs into my friend's eye sockets then just tore him in half. Then he grabbed me by the neck and repeatedly punched me in the forehead. I just woke up with the worst hangover ever.

    • @SiRenfield
      @SiRenfield Před 5 dny +13

      @@James.99 Oof the duality of man

  • @MarxistMomentum
    @MarxistMomentum Před 5 dny +393

    Despite not being trans, Dr. Ms. The Monarch's Wife should still be considered a trans icon.

    • @prageruwu69
      @prageruwu69 Před 5 dny +42

      honorary trans

    • @theletterm1787
      @theletterm1787 Před 5 dny +4

      Why?

    • @imeowmeowkat
      @imeowmeowkat Před 5 dny +43

      ​@@theletterm1787 high femme with husky voice

    • @TroutBoneless
      @TroutBoneless Před 5 dny +78

      @@theletterm1787 same reason Spock is an autistic icon despite not being autistic. It's a character whose lived experience is very familiar to a group of people who have to dig deep to find quality representation

    • @sardonicus1739
      @sardonicus1739 Před 5 dny +25

      To be frank I feel like calling a cisgendered female honorarily trans for not properly fitting a female gender identity because of her voice is a bit sexist, when I don't think a deep voice makes a woman any less of a woman. It reminds me of all the ways I used to get shamed for not properly fitting into my gender role, and how much more repressed that made me throughout my childhood that I thought if I didn't behave lady-like enough that people would call me manly or say I was actually a guy, which forced me to behave in ways unlike who I really was to fit into the social perception of what I was suppose to be according to society. When all I wanted in the world was for those restrictive roles to loosen so that you can behave however you feel like without your gender identity being put into question.
      It just feels reductive that cisgendered people have to fit perfectly in a gender role or else they're honorary trans people, when no one would suggest such a thing without focusing on her voice. It also goes under the assumption that to be trans automatically means you don't pass. Not trying to shame you for your perspective. Just trying to give a different perspective towards what if feels like to be invalidated because of some nebulous gender role you broke.

  • @untappedpotential2761
    @untappedpotential2761 Před 5 dny +244

    Monarch and Dr Mrs are the most BiDude4TransGirl coded couple ever since Gumball and Penny from TAWOG.

    • @misteryA555
      @misteryA555 Před 5 dny +12

      You are so right

    • @Rehvengethedragon
      @Rehvengethedragon Před 5 dny +42

      I know it's not canon (like at all) but I always liked the idea of them being t4t but she's mtf and he's ftm.

    • @L1ncore
      @L1ncore Před 4 dny +11

      Theyre the most trans cis characters ever put to screen for sure

  • @KrazyKaiser
    @KrazyKaiser Před 5 dny +80

    The Venture Brothers is the only TV show I have ever watched that gets MORE consistent over it's run rather than inconsistencies creeping in.

    • @kerdnerl
      @kerdnerl Před 5 dny +11

      Ikr!! Watching it the first time last year was LITERALLY a life changing experience!! I felt like my brain was gonna explode from awesomeness for pretty much all of season 5-7

    • @bloodangel13
      @bloodangel13 Před 5 dny +15

      And they did it (and by they I mean Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick) by watching their own show and taking stuff that was there and either burying it or expanding upon it. And it also helps that they're the only writers for the show.

  • @Sage_the_Turt
    @Sage_the_Turt Před 5 dny +95

    that bit about detrans wasn't ranty or wanky at all, it was extremely important and helped me think about things! brilliant video!

  • @TroutBoneless
    @TroutBoneless Před 5 dny +84

    Huh, I never quite connected the dots that Brock being unable to kill Hunter means that he accepts Hunter as a woman

    • @mrdiscophoria
      @mrdiscophoria Před 5 dny +21

      Yeah there are multiple instances where brock shows a pretty transphobic side with Dr Girlfriend and he is obviously disturbed upon seeing Hunter on the medical table with breasts. But his recalling of "never kill women" leading him to defy orders and spare hunter was great character development

    • @MrMarket1987
      @MrMarket1987 Před 3 dny +7

      @@mrdiscophoria Pretty sure he's not disgusted with Hunter, he was deeply conflicted that the man he knew all along and was sent to kill had a sex surgery to escape his past... Which then turned out to be all staged anyway, and he never really had the surgery to begin with, it was all to get Brock to believe it for a while. As for Dr. Girlfriend? I always assumed their animosity is over the fact that she IS a villain and has high ties to some of the shadiest organizations in the setting; She's genuinely a threat to him, don't forget that The Monarch himself ranks the prestigiously high Level 10 among villains and she's married to the guy.

  • @mdccxcii6340
    @mdccxcii6340 Před 5 dny +166

    My favorite CZcamsr talking about The Venture Bros in 2024? Hell yeah!

  • @askgeminiandfriendshooray5612

    Holy crap we completely forgot about Hunter Gathers. And we saw pretty much all of the series up until the last couple seasons. Another fun detail is that the voice actor for Dr. Mrs. The Monarch dressed up as the character in full outfit and makeup for the special features of the Season 1 DVD of the Venture Bros and did a live action interview as the character. Really cute!

    • @darkmyro
      @darkmyro Před 5 dny +6

      Those were made to sell the show initially. Sorta as a pseudo pilot before the actual pilot. Still an interesting thing though.

    • @splatter_proto
      @splatter_proto Před 4 dny +11

      The voice actor for Dr. Mrs. The Monarch is Doc Hammer, the show's co-creator!

  • @bridgetcooney5085
    @bridgetcooney5085 Před 5 dny +31

    I'm cis and have related with Dr. Mrs The Monarch. I have a fairly low voice, contralto by my voice teachers estimates. But it's not just that. Probably just for jokes, but they made her struggle with EVERYTHING women usually struggle with. Trans or cis. And she's powerful and capable despite all that. She's one of my favorite characters ever

  • @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
    @ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos Před 5 dny +83

    Egg moment #9001: I was always lowkey disappointed that Dr. Mrs. The Monarch _wasn't_ trans

    • @geraltrivia6148
      @geraltrivia6148 Před 5 dny +14

      In her first appearance she had a very prominently featured Adams apple that wasn't shown again, so they might have played with the idea.
      As much as I want to see more trans representation, I'm kinda glad the show didn't make Sheilah trans. Mostly due to that immature male demographic that Lily mentioned. A reveal like that would have just confirmed to them that women who don't meet all of the 'girly' criteria are just men in disguise. Just like Hunter gathers was visually presented as a joke with his grizzled, beard stubbly face over his rocking knockers.

    • @madvillainelle4009
      @madvillainelle4009 Před 6 hodinami +2

      Same

  • @TheNerindil
    @TheNerindil Před 5 dny +42

    Dr. Mrs. The Monarch is such a paragon of femininity that, after multiple watches of the series, my brain simply no longer registers her voice as masculine.

  • @FatCharlie215
    @FatCharlie215 Před 5 dny +75

    ive always thought the voice of Dr. Mrs. The Monarch was kind of hot

  • @Wek6
    @Wek6 Před 5 dny +25

    Hunter gatherers is also a play on the old gender roles of hunter and gatherer, i think its a nice little cheeky name for her

    • @foul-fortune-feline
      @foul-fortune-feline Před 2 dny +3

      This feels out of pocket but I also kinda just won't sleep at night if I don't mention that those roles are anachronistic projections of more modern patriarchal assumptions, not representative of the anthropological record (not that you specifically necessarily needed to hear it, i don't know you and am aware of that fact lol). That conception of early humanity can at best be traced back a few hundred years and comes more from christianity than anything more applicable to a time before even _that_ was a thing >w<
      Allllsooo this is all kinda part of a history of colonialism and such as well haha. But this feels like it's gettin long as is and if I don't contain myself I'll write a whole ass dissertation -w-'

    • @Wek6
      @Wek6 Před dnem +2

      @@foul-fortune-feline originally I felt the same way I wasnt rlly thrilled with the idea but its their name so there rlly isnt anything to be done abt it, I just grew to accept it as a ill informed tounge and cheek little title, plus its never brought up or mentioned in the show or vid so I just wanted to draw attention to it, whether it be for better or worse

    • @foul-fortune-feline
      @foul-fortune-feline Před dnem

      @@Wek6 Yeaaaa I tried to caveat it n that haha but still I think it's worth examining those sorts of hegemonic ideas n just felt compelled to draw attn to that. Like, iss clear that's what they were goin for but that doesn't mean iss beyond analysis

  • @sarahjane1975
    @sarahjane1975 Před 5 dny +44

    Funny, I always identifyed with Hunter for some reason. I think when they transitioned in the show, it was part of my first wake up moments.

  • @KrazyKaiser
    @KrazyKaiser Před 5 dny +41

    The fact that The Monarch and Sheila are openly swingers is also super fucking cool in my book.

    • @patrickflanagan862
      @patrickflanagan862 Před 4 dny +2

      We're Villains! We SWING!

    • @ng952
      @ng952 Před 4 dny +3

      They're not. It happened once and she says, "Hey! That was not my idea!" and he says "I know. I thought it would turn me on, but it was just sad a disappointing."

    • @lexp6099
      @lexp6099 Před dnem +1

      @@ng952 You're both right: they weren't initially (as per the line you referenced) but then the characters either changed or it was just retconned. Though I can't remember whether or not it's said before or after Sheila seduces Dr. Venture, which Monarch enjoys watching but does get jealous of.

    • @ng952
      @ng952 Před dnem

      @@lexp6099 It's after.

  • @SmokeyEdits
    @SmokeyEdits Před 5 dny +40

    i went through a period where i was watching adult swim's "live" episodes on their website, which is when i discovered the joys of the venture bros. it's seriously so so good.

  • @powerofthec5908
    @powerofthec5908 Před 5 dny +28

    AHA! Your premonition was WRONG, Sorceress! I was not playing Elden Ring, I was playing Don't Starve Together while listening to this video featuring insightful commentary!

  • @thecopperandroid8989
    @thecopperandroid8989 Před 5 dny +28

    The Venture Bros. is the single best show to ever air on Adult Swim and I will forever stand by that

  • @ravenpaine87
    @ravenpaine87 Před 5 dny +69

    Like in the first 2 seconds for Venture Bros

  • @sirkarl0s593
    @sirkarl0s593 Před 5 dny +16

    I'm a cis straight guy and i love Lily's content. I learn a little more every time she uplaods

  • @ragingwerewolfdude3797
    @ragingwerewolfdude3797 Před 5 dny +20

    One more small scene for Hunter, he mentions that he never got over the loss of his breasts, after Dean leaves the female exosuit

  • @SiRenfield
    @SiRenfield Před 5 dny +68

    Never have I clicked faster!!! On that note Pickles from Metalocalypse isn’t necessarily 100% canonically confirmed trans ,but it was recently confirmed that one episode where he wasn’t animated with male gonads wasn’t an error and that Brendon Small (who ironically also voices the guy doing Hunter’s gender confirmation surgery) is at least supportive of trans headcanons

  • @Al-go3tc
    @Al-go3tc Před 5 dny +14

    As somebody who was completely unallowed to watch queer media, putting together the pieces is how I found my identity

  • @lexp6099
    @lexp6099 Před 5 dny +36

    To further reinforce the fact that Hunter is trans, see S05E06: she's envious of and in disbelief that Vatred wants to get rid of his breasts, and implies that the operations were not strictly part of her mission.
    Dr. Councilwoman was definitely originally intended to be a trans woman, as a joke (ugh) but they changed their minds on that. She's got a visible adam's apple in early episodes.
    Go team venture!

    • @James.99
      @James.99 Před 5 dny +1

      The pilot version of her was nightmare fuel 💀

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 Před 5 dny +7

      Also this line, said to Hank after . . . whatever happened to him when he tried joining SPHINX the second time:
      "You'll never get over the loss of your breasts. You'll miss them forever."

    • @bloodangel13
      @bloodangel13 Před 5 dny +2

      I don't think they intended Sheila (Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's name) to have an adam's apple, it was an story boarding error that that they missed when it was shipped it to be animated by a third party studio and my source for that is the book Go Team Venture! The Art and Making of The Venture Bros.

    • @lexp6099
      @lexp6099 Před 4 dny +1

      @@bloodangel13 And if you look at page 25 of Go Team Venture, there are two drawings of her with one.

    • @bloodangel13
      @bloodangel13 Před 4 dny

      @@lexp6099 But that was a concept that was (thankfully) scrapped.

  • @msmknz
    @msmknz Před 5 dny +46

    I can not satisfactorily put into words how much Sheila's existence as a character has done to reduce my voice dysphoria 🤘🏳️‍⚧️
    Edit: thanks for noticing me ringing the elden while watching ☺️

    • @Anthnax
      @Anthnax Před 5 dny

      Always weird to hear someone call her Shelia

  • @umbram8073
    @umbram8073 Před 5 dny +14

    I literally just thought this morning when waking up "I wonder if Lily will cover Ventrue Bros. sometime (I was rewatching just yesterday) " Thanks universe!

  • @Tacom4ster
    @Tacom4ster Před 5 dny +50

    Im just so used that sexy husky voice of Dr Girlfriend that I don't really ever question her as a woman, maybe it's the writing and acting. Also I like raspy tomboyish voices

    • @KrazyKaiser
      @KrazyKaiser Před 5 dny +1

      I think one reason to attribute to thinking her voice is sexy and not a turn off is pretty simple: we like her. She's an interesting and complicated character with a really likable personality, so we are quicker to like other attributes about her that we might see as hideous in a person who we saw as horrible.

  • @superermac55
    @superermac55 Před 5 dny +21

    Was having a shite morning, but this made it so much better

    • @darsh8964
      @darsh8964 Před 5 dny +2

      Hope the rest of your day is much better!

    • @superermac55
      @superermac55 Před 5 dny

      @@darsh8964 no sleep, messed up foot, but dammit, got to make a recipe i wanted to try for weeks and bought a case of Heineken. Days a lot better

  • @theworstofmykind
    @theworstofmykind Před 5 dny +15

    Gasp! No one outside of cartoon YTers talk Venture Bros, what a treat!

  • @AgentWebs
    @AgentWebs Před 5 dny +56

    Other than the generous usage of the r-slur in earlier seasons, the Venture Bros. is an incredible show

    • @prageruwu69
      @prageruwu69 Před 5 dny +4

      eh, it was a super long time ago and that word was just seen as normal and funny until like 7 years ago.

    • @AgentWebs
      @AgentWebs Před 5 dny +44

      ​@@prageruwu69it's still a valid criticism, and something that could reasonably dissuade people from giving this show a chance

    • @prageruwu69
      @prageruwu69 Před 5 dny +3

      ​@@AgentWebssure, i definitely agree that nowadays that warrants a warning, but idk if you could really blame the show itself for being made when the word was more normalised and not a big deal

    • @kerdnerl
      @kerdnerl Před 5 dny +16

      Also wasn't a fan of the episode where baron underbeit tries to marry Dean. The whole thing is weird and gross, and the line about doc trying to get rid of the gay gene just really bothered me

    • @kid_missive
      @kid_missive Před 5 dny +10

      there is tons of weird uncomfortable shit in that show. some aged better than others

  • @MrHodoAstartes
    @MrHodoAstartes Před 5 dny +12

    26:30
    Actually, I was making a spiced banana bread with dates and rum-soaked raisins, replacing the sugar with molasses to get an even rounder, darker flavor.
    And the whole thing filled with a fig preserve.
    Here's to hoping this actually works out anything as intended.

    • @nahometesfay1112
      @nahometesfay1112 Před 5 dny +3

      That sounds delicious I hope it turns out great!

    • @Bob-bs9ok
      @Bob-bs9ok Před 5 dny +2

      Did it work as intended?

    • @MrHodoAstartes
      @MrHodoAstartes Před 5 dny +4

      @Bob-bs9ok
      Kinda.
      It didn't rise 100% and remains a tad soggy at the bottom.
      Likely too much liquid in the dough after I dumped in the rum that I soaked those raisins in.
      However, using a third starch in the flour and baking low has made it come out uniformly soft and tender.
      The preserve filling I essentially just dumped in a line on top has come out as a very decorative trench that essentially works like a cut to prevent an uneven rise in the center.

    • @Bob-bs9ok
      @Bob-bs9ok Před 5 dny +1

      @@MrHodoAstartes still sounds delicious even if there's aspects that need to be worked out!

    • @sarahthesarah2850
      @sarahthesarah2850 Před 4 dny

      Recipe please 🥺 That sounds amazing 🤩

  • @GameOfDepth
    @GameOfDepth Před 4 dny +4

    The fine line between Blackmail Pornography and Black Male Pornography.

  • @Carollnn
    @Carollnn Před 5 dny +7

    I love Hunter Gathers, because I also love Hunter S Thompson. Venture Bros was such a great show.

  • @Punk__pixie
    @Punk__pixie Před 5 dny +25

    Holy fuck! GO TEAM VENTURE!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @nicholasfarrell5981
    @nicholasfarrell5981 Před 5 dny +9

    13:46 - want to say something right here, but I suspect that Hunter also felt some internal pressure to detransition. Hunter originally left the OSI because of her morals conflicting with what turned out to be _massive_ systematic corruption of the OSI not only because of the Guild of Calamitous Intent infiltrating the organization but also because of governmental interference, because her morals and personal code are *that* important to her as a person. I've always felt that (in-universe) part of the reason for Hunter detransitioning had to do with, y'know, being a woman conflicted with her belief that the "good guys" don't put women and children at risk, and she was more willing/able to live in a body she's uncomfortable in than she was with walking away from the spy life and just letting other people deal with it.
    I could be completely wrong on this and just talking out of my arse on this one, but that's always been my read on the situation.

    • @VostokApollo
      @VostokApollo Před 20 hodinami +1

      I 100% groove with the idea that Hunter Gathers detransitioned to be more true to her overall world philosophy and when you look at it through this lens, there's a weird sense of heroism to her. Her stated belief, that women and children should not be harmed, and her own genuine feelings of femininity, makes her *detransition* so much more legitimate. Imagine, a cis woman believing that women and children should not be harmed, and that, while she has a deep love and connection to her femininity that she does not want to lose, she still goes through reassignment surgery because she believes both in her own weird patriarchal philosophy AND that she needs to make a difference in the world personally. Taken this way, if Hunter Gathers were born a woman and forced to transition to become a man, and *then* shouted "INSIDE ME THERE IS A WOMAN SCREAMING TO BE HEARD", any degree of comedy that some 14 year old would have obtained from it would be gone, replaced with a sense of horror and compassion. (Though I MISS MY MASSIVE BEAUTIFUL TITS would still be pretty funny ngl)

  • @josueayala1249
    @josueayala1249 Před 5 dny +3

    Hell yeah. Been waiting for this one for a while. Hunter Gathers is one of my favorite characters since I was a kid

  • @KrazyKaiser
    @KrazyKaiser Před 5 dny +7

    This is the first time I've heard the "J. Edgar Hoover was a crossdresser" rumor outside of Archer, I honestly wasn't sure if it was a real rumor or something they made up, but I kinda assumed it had some basis in reality, they are good at that with that show.

    • @TheoRae8289
      @TheoRae8289 Před dnem

      decades long rumor. It even got referenced in one of the Naked Gun movies.

  • @isabelee7262
    @isabelee7262 Před 5 dny +4

    i’ve only ever seen clips of this show and it always made me kind of wary. i feel bad for never giving this show a chance. as someone who retransitioned and as a trans woman who passes until i open my mouth, i feel very comforted seeing characters like Hunter Gathers and Dr. Mrs. i feel seen. also if there’s any Hunter Gathers’s out there, it’s never too late, there’s still time

    • @searchingfororion
      @searchingfororion Před 5 dny +1

      I think you'll really enjoy it. (I was a fan when it was on the air then due to... life, I lost access to it until after seeing posts about it being over. So the "Mrs." aspect was a spoiler for me for a show that frequently made in character references to GOT season theories - haha. That doesn't mean I'll enjoy it any less however.)
      Also, thank you for your statement based off of your experience. It's really important and I don't think voices like yours are heard anywhere *near* enough. That message is vital.
      (As an "elder" queer person who interacts with people beyond my generation I know many people who need to hear it. While I do my best to send it; my personal experience isn't as relatable - some of them have only *ever* shared their relationship with gender to me and may even believe my acceptance is an anomaly. While I'm not offended, I get a lot of 'that's easy for *you* to say' type responses/mentalties which makes me genuinely sad *for the person* but I understand why they have those feelings. That's why I was so happy to see your message to others.)
      I know that was long but; 1. I'm happy for you being able to live as your most authentic self. Sincerely. 2. Thank you for saying what you did, especially in context to your experience. I know it will help people in a way that I can't. (Regardless of how open about my life or accepting I may be there are experiences I don't/will never have and that's why I'm praising and raising yours so much. Thank you.)

  • @Fred_Derp
    @Fred_Derp Před 5 dny +9

    The Monarch and Misses Monarch are the 2 wolfs inside of me

  • @lunamoona4920
    @lunamoona4920 Před 5 dny +5

    Dr Girlfriend is an icon of female empowerment and She is a personal role model for me. I don't know what we'd do without her

  • @ScreamingmadJoe
    @ScreamingmadJoe Před 5 dny +3

    Lily being a big venture bros fan actually tracks a lot tbh

  • @PD-gw4ne
    @PD-gw4ne Před 5 dny +6

    5:33 hunter gather definitely has more influence from journalist Hunter S Thompson theyre speach pattern and look before srs with they’re signature cigarette and sunglasses and just look

  • @jaykaye594
    @jaykaye594 Před 5 dny +12

    Brick Frog!

  • @jadetortellini6150
    @jadetortellini6150 Před 5 dny +3

    Dr. Mrs. Monarch was always my favorite. I have a deep voice too, and people will usually gender me properly until I speak then they get weird

  • @Nehu_22
    @Nehu_22 Před 3 dny +4

    I also like Hunter Gathers name because, usually the Hunters were the men and while women were the gatherers, so the name could represent their gender fluidity, maybe the lines about having a woman inside means they consider themselves both man and woman, but that's only one idea I had watching this video

  • @Mespoina
    @Mespoina Před 5 dny +10

    Yeahhhhh I always dr girlfriend thought was trans even if her voice was just a reference to Jackie Kennedy.....Also the marvelous misadventures of Flapjack trans episode? It's called something is a miss... And it's literally everybody assuming Flapjack is a girl because of how he looks and presents himself

  • @MaxMiller94
    @MaxMiller94 Před 5 dny +2

    You have the absolute best taste in shows in general and animated shows in particular

  • @seekingabsolution1907
    @seekingabsolution1907 Před 4 dny +5

    The name "hunter gather" is pretty funny as a name for character that transgresses gender norms.

  • @beardiemom
    @beardiemom Před 5 dny +4

    26:45 you were almost correct, I have you playing in the background while I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3.

  • @lovelycrimeboy8368
    @lovelycrimeboy8368 Před 5 dny +3

    Goddamn, you got me while I was playing Elden Ring listening to this in the background. Also Dr. Mrs. The Monarch is the GOAT.

  • @Foxtail529withluck
    @Foxtail529withluck Před 5 dny +9

    Hell yeah

  • @splatter_proto
    @splatter_proto Před 4 dny +2

    Fun Fact, the voice actor for Dr. Mrs. The Monarch is Doc Hammer, the show's co-creator! (and co-writer, musician, editor, and other voices)

  • @D_YellowMadness
    @D_YellowMadness Před 4 dny +1

    21:24 I love that part. I also like that the time stamp for it is twenty-one twenty-four.

  • @kaygratv
    @kaygratv Před 2 dny +1

    Okay but to be fair, 57 year old Dale Gribble's head on a young Pamela Anderson's body is objectively hilarious

  • @jbrecken
    @jbrecken Před 5 dny +2

    It's probably worth noting that Dr Girlfriend's voice is based off ab impression of Harvey Fierstein.

  • @KiltCladViking
    @KiltCladViking Před 5 dny +2

    I really appreciate the recognition that less than ideal representation can still be meaningful. Some of the first things to put cracks in my egg were things that were absolutely made wit the intent of the joke being" look how gross/weird this trans person is" but because my empathy invested me in the story I couldn't help thinking " look how human this character is, is it really so weird? and I mean it IS a rockin' body, sure theres stubble and body hair, but like cis women have that too" though my brain definantly didn't have the word cis at the time.

  • @HazelwithaZ
    @HazelwithaZ Před 5 dny +7

    IGNORE ME (but don't ignore this show, it's so freaking good)! ❤️

  • @Prospitfox
    @Prospitfox Před 5 dny +1

    The way i literally gasped when this popped in my feed. My favorite show of all time, being talked about by one of my favorite youtubers??!

  • @jscythe74
    @jscythe74 Před 4 dny +2

    Honestly, Dr. Girlfriend was the character than made me question the relationship between gender and sex. I never once mentally processed Dr. Girlfriend as a man. And the early seasons of the show lampshaded this for me. So this show brought me to the separation of gender and sex twenty years ago. It blows my mind that people are just now struggling with this idea in 2024.

  • @spekticat
    @spekticat Před 2 hodinami

    Awesome episode and an awesome show - thanks Lily!

  • @mrdiscophoria
    @mrdiscophoria Před 5 dny +1

    A friend of mine showed me a page out of a Venture Bros art book that had Dr . Mrs. The Monarch from highschool with short hair anf glasses "as a boy". It's merely concept art that was never expanded upon, the art style is very reminiscent of the early stages too, but definitely something to think about.

  • @rcuhljr
    @rcuhljr Před 5 dny +2

    God damnit, you got me with the Elden Ring bit.

  • @nethercatte42
    @nethercatte42 Před 21 hodinou

    "... and not feel like they have to change that into something they don't care about just to meet the expectations of others." I think I needed to hear that

  • @snackbracket
    @snackbracket Před 5 dny +1

    This is the video I've been waiting for!

  • @Alumirust
    @Alumirust Před 5 dny +3

    uploads that make me happy stim

  • @amylutece8533
    @amylutece8533 Před 3 dny

    Thanks very much for improving audio quality.

  • @poigntless
    @poigntless Před 5 dny +1

    venture bros is so good, definitely need to rewatch sometime

  • @BillTheSpill
    @BillTheSpill Před 3 dny

    Great video! Great analysis!

  • @kraiZor
    @kraiZor Před 5 dny +3

    The creators of the show grew a lot over the course of making the show. There is some problematic shit in the early seasons that they later realized they needed to stop doing.

    • @lanceturley7745
      @lanceturley7745 Před 5 dny +3

      Exactly. Hunter and Dr. Mrs. The Monarch more than likely did start as transphobic joke characters, just as Shore Leave was a gay joke and Sgt. Hatred was a pedophile joke, but full credit to Doc and Jackson for actually maturing as people over the years and turning them all into more developed characters.

  • @gazblackheart4596
    @gazblackheart4596 Před 5 dny +3

    I have only known male hunters so not sure I agree on it being a gender neutral name, everything else is on point.

  • @joseaguilar3323
    @joseaguilar3323 Před 5 dny +6

    The creators of the show did an interview on Chapo Trap House while promoting the movie where they talked about their views on gender roles, particularly in regards to the movie's final scene.

  • @lunaissleepy9436
    @lunaissleepy9436 Před 3 dny

    FINALLY I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

  • @Italiangreenbean82
    @Italiangreenbean82 Před 5 dny +3

    Nice plaque you got there, Lily

  • @gravenravens1463
    @gravenravens1463 Před 5 dny +2

    YESSSSS ive been waiting for this episode, venture bros is one of my very favorite shows ever i can't wait to see your thoughts on hunter :D

  • @KowaiZuzu
    @KowaiZuzu Před dnem

    I make so many Venture Brothers references that my family who's never seen the show make references to my references.

  • @L1ncore
    @L1ncore Před 4 dny +2

    I feel like its important to say since many people havent listened to the creators audio commentary, but they actually apologized in it for how they wrote Hunter. In the early seasons they admitted they didn’t really know anything about trans people at the time and it WAS being used for jokes that they see as distasteful in hindsight.
    You can really see the moment they became more educated around season 4 where Hank thinks being gay and trans is the same thing when he asks the Alchemist (a canonically gay character) if his panis is “all frankensteiny”. Another character asks if Hank is ever embarrassed about how ignorant he is and Hank says “yeah, constantly”. Which i feel was a nice nod to the creator’s own previous ignorance. 😂

  • @waveeyes
    @waveeyes Před 5 dny +4

    "I see a game, is it... Elden Ring?"
    Close enough, it is Elder Scrolls (specifically ESO).

  • @winstonbeetle6147
    @winstonbeetle6147 Před 5 dny +4

    Wonderful!

  • @NINacide
    @NINacide Před 3 dny

    All I know is I can't unsee Johnny Depp playing Hunter S. Thompson in Fear and Loathing every time this character starts going off the rails

  • @seraphonica
    @seraphonica Před 5 dny +1

    the best way to convince someone to watch the Venture Brothers is literally show them the first scene of the series

  • @kerdnerl
    @kerdnerl Před 5 dny +1

    I've been watching your channel for a while, I've wanted this vid for a while and am so glad you are doing it now. I discovered venture bros last year and I've seen the whole thing twice and own the series on DVD. I even got athf plantasm and Metalocalypse doomstar just cause I think it makes a sort of unofficial adult swim 2023 movie trilogy

  • @fluffywolfo3663
    @fluffywolfo3663 Před 4 dny +1

    Madame Councilwoman Dr. Mrs. Sheila the Monarch is very funny to me conceptually, cause… it feels like at first they did her voice as a joke, but then they committed to her so hard (in addition to repeatedly saying ‘she’s just a woman with a deep voice’) that they had no choice _but_ to be sincere. Like, it shouldn’t work but they committed.

  • @CallusWyndry
    @CallusWyndry Před 5 dny

    Always love you videos!

  • @itsgamingtime7439
    @itsgamingtime7439 Před 2 dny

    that bit at the end when you looked at my screen was scary. you where right

  • @josueayala1249
    @josueayala1249 Před 5 dny +2

    That scene when Brock finds Hunter Gathers post-surgery is also a nice bit of growth for Brock and how he sees trans people. In the seasons before he made quite a few transphobic jokes. The episode that sticks out the most is when he and Phantom Limb team up to save her from The Monarch, and the whole time they're going there Brock insists that she must secretly be a man, have a penis and so on. So when he finds Gathers in the operating room and affirms her womanhood, it signals a pretty significant growth in how he views what a woman is and can be. Is it earned? Not really! But it's kind of nice to see regardless.

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 Před dnem

      also sometimes you dont need a whole arc for a charicter to change their view on sometimes people really just do wake up one morning and go "huh, i was totally wrong" then just go forward from there and thats pretty much that

  • @ChiWillett
    @ChiWillett Před 3 dny

    thank you so much for the time and labor put into this video it was fire af!!!!!!! we love having a deeper conversation around some of the characters in venture bros as well as providing another piece of important content vocalizing the vast nuance behind the trans experience (including detransitioning - really happy to see a youtuber discuss the topic with respect and understanding) and deconstructing the harm that patriarchal-centered societies create!!!!!! stunning work as always. and hope you have a great day as well!

  • @BlueBeetle1939
    @BlueBeetle1939 Před 5 dny +1

    This only gets 30 minutes but riverdale is a million years long!?! What could possibly happen in that show

    • @egg_bun_
      @egg_bun_ Před 2 dny

      Yeah, I feel like this could have been longer, but idk

  • @angus3916
    @angus3916 Před dnem

    ok this came out recently
    i straight up had a wtf moment at the end lmao

  • @AdamBarnett256
    @AdamBarnett256 Před 16 hodinami

    It is indeed Elden Ring and I'm now convinced you are a psychic.

  • @stopaskingmetousemyname
    @stopaskingmetousemyname Před 5 dny +3

    My partner is having a serious mandella effect about this video. She swears she saw this video before today even though you just uploaded it. Have you ever talked about venture brothers in another video?

    • @patrickflanagan862
      @patrickflanagan862 Před 4 dny

      She mentioned it in some of the "should I do this or that" polls a while ago.

  • @raccoonomicon
    @raccoonomicon Před 5 dny +2

    lovely vid! the part about Dr Mrs. The Monarch's intersectionality for cisgender & transgender women is top notch

  • @charleston1789
    @charleston1789 Před 5 dny +1

    You’re always foreground to me Lily 😊

  • @NunSuperior
    @NunSuperior Před 4 dny +2

    11:24 (Sphinx!)

  • @Alexk-cp8xq
    @Alexk-cp8xq Před 5 dny +2

    hunter is also supposed to be a parody of hunter s thompson

  • @MegumiMary
    @MegumiMary Před 4 dny +1

    Dr. Mrs. The Monarch also fits the trans trope of confusing ass names

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 Před dnem

      ive just accepted that if another one of my friends comes out as MTF the first couple names will alternate between something like "melody frost winters the 3rd" or one word names that are obscure folklore references. It is simply the natural process lol

  • @commercialturtle9833
    @commercialturtle9833 Před 5 dny +4

    Never clicked a notification faster