Can Poland into Space?
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With there being a lot of talk about a new space race in the media, I thought it may be a good idea to make a little video covering the geopolitics of space. Focused a little more on geography than usual I would like to give you a good overview of the geopolitics of space travel and what the future space race may look like.
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The Poland-Luna Commonwealth is inevitable.
5,000 space hussar of Poland.
@@starmaker75 GW should launch models of hussar-inspired spacemarines, they would be getting bazillions of cash from the meme squads.
@@zer0homerOh my god they should! But I think that it should be eldar not space marines.
@@zer0homerKislev Imperial Guard _in spaaaaaace_
@@CocoHutzpah Warhammer 3 moment
One aspect not mentioned in this is the problem of while there are many ideal launch sites, often the hardest hurdle is getting rockets to said locations. The US built up spaceports in Florida, California, and Virginia so as to connect them to mainland factories instead of the islands of Hawaii or Puerta Rico. ESA has they have to often ship rocket parts and their payloads from Europe all the way to French Guiana. JWST shows just how much logistical effort one really important item can take up and that was from California. This logistical hurdle is also why the Japanese space market often launches many smaller rockets as apposed to the US with medium to soon to be heavy lift rockets taking up a large section of the private sector.
Great point I remember that the key issue of the challenger disaster was while the rocket could be made as a single piece. Laws to send jobs to California required the hull to be made in California and the only way to get it over the mountains and into Florida was to cut the rocket into two. Challenger was intentionally launched despite known problems demanding maintenance. . . to stick to a schedule. "The laws of physics don't give a dam about your schedules" is the standout quote from when I learned this.
Tbf, Nasa's logistics are purposely complex for no good reason.
First off, you got states like Alabama, Texas, Oregon, and all these places, who want jobs for their own people. So you get Nasa locations in Alabama shipping shit off to California lol.
You also got situations like where politicians demand Nasa use SRB's in the space shuttle to keep ICBM companies in business.
Undoubtely the EU faces similar problems since its even less federalized.
But really its mostly just France and a few other countries that go into space, and their all close together anyways.
Nice pointing out Wallops! It’s definitely the smallest of the 3 NASA launch centers, but it’s almost like a slice of The Cape, just in Virginia. I’ve actually seen a few rockets from there, specifically Rocket Lab’s first launch from the US (January 2023) and the final launch of Antares 230+ (August 2023). It’s a beautiful area, not just for rockets but also for the islands of Chincoteague and Assateague.
Good point. There's a rocket launching site in northern Sweden esrange. For polar orbits. How do you get the rocket there? There's a railroad from the Norwegian port of Narvik..... That's still rather small for rockets despite the broader Nordic loading gauge but the only practically viable way beyond airlift and local assembly possibly.
@@SpartanNat rocket lab is slept on. I took a tour there and it’s pretty sick considering barely anyone knows about them who isn’t into rocketry
He did it boys he finally mentioned Brazil!!! And it was in a nuanced and measured manner that implies optimism for her future while acknowledging her past, YAY!!
aposto 30 conto que a gente vai falhar kkkkk
@@someguy9175 tem uma boa chance 😩
dito isso, continuaremos um país fudido
Can’t wait for Brazil to become a big player in space like people are predicting, like how they became a super power. Oh wait…
@@mateuspires7282can't do worse than the US
Please Kraut, keep posting your sources in the description like you used to do in your old videos, some people like me would like to delve on the topic beyond your video and some of your sources would be a good start.
it's just good practice in general to post sources
Yes it is an absolute must
Yes, it would be great to get sources again.
Please Kraut
And posting sources must be on the video description, not the damn discord, please.
Poland doing an into space is a must imo
Why?
@@sr-3734tqpMemes 🤌
Also Poland is great country 😎
@@xdlol59 the video clearly explains that Poland must launch the rockets towards east to save fuel... what could go wrong
Poland deserves to into space
Ziggy boggy do
Poland was in space in 1970's
space is not a right, it's a privilege
Poland has its own space agency which so far succeeded in launching millions of zloty into the pockets of Christian politicians
@@putinsteait’s a tremendous responsibility a minor mistake could turn out whole orbit into a 180,000 mph shotgun blast for hundreds of years
"Because as much as Taiwan right now cannot into space, when Russia tells her she can into China, Taiwan will remind Russia that Russia cannot into semiconductors."
Best part 😂
I know it's a meme but man that's pushing the limits of the English language
They can.
Just not the latest and greatest chips.
Military and space exploration lives legacy chips
They can.
Just not the latest and greatest chips.
Military and space exploration lives legacy chips
@@ArawnOfAnnwnIF the Chinese take it over. That’s a big IF
"and if something is dropped or goes wrong, it goes straight into the Atlantic"
Well, except that one time it went horribly wrong way too fast. That was something you didn't need to see on tv as a kid right after your teacher saying something to the effect of, "if you study and try hard, this can be you!"
At least big bird survived
@@defordumbas9302 Yeah by sheer luck.
Can't even imagine how much that would mess with my brain as a child...
Damn. The Challenger Disaster was before my time so I could never imagine something like that happening while millions of students were watching it live in school.
@@TheDanorte Being old enough to have been a child who even had a teacher apply to that program, and who himself had childish dreams of becoming an astronaut, my main takeaway from the disaster was that government agencies were nowhere near as infallible as I thought they were. The Space Shuttle had been a huge public relations success, especially among children. It had been presented as a miracle of technology and engineering, and to be fair it was, but it wasn't infallible, we weren't just a decade away from Star Trek like I thought, and if we could screw up something this important this badly then getting into an accidental nuclear war was probably only a 50/50 coin flip. Fortunately I was able to overcome that overriding sense of dread and futility to grow up, get a normal well-paying job, work hard, save up, and buy my first apartment in a big high rise in a major city the day before 9/11. #GenXthings
I love that kraut mentioned something wasn’t on the Wikipedia, and less than an hour later someone has added it with sources and all
True gigachad
As a Pole 🇵🇱 we actually CAN into space. We have had a cosmonaut in space (Mirosław Hermaszewski) we have our own private orbital rocket company (Space Forest, check them out) and we are part of ESA, the European Space Agency.
Go Poland 🇵🇱🚀😆
Love your patriotism brother, as a fellow European Polands growth recently has me excited! All love from the U.K. 🫡
RIP 1941-2022
The meme came about because Poland wasn't a ESA member for the longest time. I have "poland cannot into space.png" and "A polish space adventure 3.png" from February 2012. Poland joined November 2012. I'm surprised that meme is still used because it's not that funny.
@@thomasbohl6924 Tbh, as a Pole I like this meme. Even if it takes a jab at my country, it's extremly motivating because you wanna prove it wrong. I even made a Stellaris build around this concept to play Space Poland with underdog story scenario. Quite fun motive.
@@thomasbohl6924 interesting, I didn't know about the back story. I think it generally falls into the category of "polish jokes" people just making fun of Poland and how Poland is funnily sloppy sometimes. As a Pole I find it funny, although I do realize that most polish jokes come from the time of imperial Germany and later 3rd reich (for propaganda reasons)
The comparison between Indian and Chinese news coverage is just not fair. English is used far more in India. SCMP is China's only internationally recognised English-language news publication, and they covered it.
If I was a betting man, I’d say Poland would get into space before Russia gets to the moon.
I'll get into space before Russia gets to the moon
I’d bet good money.
I'd say that's a sure bet.
@@EpicgamerwinXD6669 Well technically Luna-25 which was launched by russia also landed on the moon, just very fast.
@@magictoffee7066 that is certainly one way to leave your mark on the moon.
One thing, regarding Australia. I am British, and as far as space is concerned we have a curious distinction. We developed an independent launch programme, using Australia as a launch site. And then abandoned the capability.
*launches rocket one time*
Meh, I'm bored of this already
*cancels rocket*
@@demondoggy1825 Prospero programme in a nutshell.
The thing is the UK might actually become the European version of Japan when it comes to Space Programmes focusing heavily on Civilian Satellites and Solar Mapping.
@@demondoggy1825 We launched 2 rockets, they didn't work, it was cancelled. The scientists then persuaded the Gov't to allow a third launch, as the rocket was already being shipped to Australia. The launch was successful. And then it never launched again.
@@thespiritphoenix3798 Prospero was the sattellite. The rocket was called BLACK ARROW
The distance between the UK and Australia is very long
Glad to know that India is making headways into the one place not corrupted by capitalism: Space.
Not corrupted by capitalism, yet :'3
I would have gone with this
India: I'm going to the place with no Abrahamic religions, SPACE!!!
Space X: am I a joke to you
@@donaldlee8249
Yes.
Indian Govt. have allowed private sector to work in space sector in 2020 so within 5-6 years at least 2-3 companies are going to develop their own rockets to launch. Within a decade after developing that they are going to aim big.
Space isn't the only sector India is good at.
So, here is that video with that title that some of you have requested for over 4 years.
Nice
What you think about "Can Ukraine replace Russia in space"?
Amazing to see Brazil in this and with such highlight. I study electrical engineering and recently we had in my college a lecture from the president of the Brazilian space program, who also have studied electric engineering, and it's great to see that our program is truly relevant in the international stage
Esse vídeo está cheio de mentiras e afirmações sem fontes sobre o Brasil, apenas porque ele acredita no que um professor dele disse.
As an indian ee, my best wishes to you for surviving this degree
@@ethandouro4334 se vc puder elaborar o que há de errado com o vídeo pfv
@@ahwabanmukherjee5065 thanks 😄
@ethandouro4334 fala oq tá errado noq ele falou ae
Gosh - I hadn't realized that Russia's space programme was in such a dire state! In a way, I'm not surprised, but the reasons it is in such trouble are not what I would have expected. Thanks for the great video!
Eh, it's in a poor state for sure, but not for the reasons stated. It's entirely the problem of corruption, geography and geopolitics has nothing to do with it.
@@korakys geopolitics definitely has a role to play. What do you think Kazakhstan thinks when they see Russia invading Ukraine, meddling in their politics, not sticking to the security agreement they have with Armenia, etc? And now combined with rapidly diminishing access to technology like semiconductors and becoming an international pariah state. You don’t want to get into bed with a deal-welching, poor, outcast nation when it may bar you from western markets and technology and destabilize your internal political system.
@@korakys It's have contribute to Russia space decline but it isn't THE reason. Its isolation from other is the main points especially it lost most of its international launch market to new private launch providers (mostly SpaceX).
So... isolation from international communities, lack of capital, lack of fund, corruption, (very) poor leadership that cause great erosion on Soviet/Russia space industrial base and institution knowledge and brain drain.
@@korakys Nearly every state function in Russia is suffering from corruption. I did think the fact that Russia's previous competitive advantage, rocket design, no longer being an advantage, is highly relevant. Also, as he explained, Russia's main space port is now in Khazakhstan, which thanks to geopolitics Khazakhstan is edging out of Russia's orbit. That makes geopolitics VERY relevant to Russia's decline.
@@FredoRockwellThat's bollocks. Kazakhstan is closer to Russia than ever. Russian military went to quell violent protests in Kazakhstan on the request of the Kazakh government just 2-3 years ago.
Kazakhstan is part of CSTO (like all other central Asian nations). Russia is probably second only to China as being it's largest targest trading partner. It is in a trade associated with other central Asian states and Russia. That whole central asia area is Russia's backyard where even China hasn't been able to increase it's influence (despite it's proximity). The western narrative of expansionist and untrustworthy Russia isn't mainstream in Kazakhstan especially not amongst it's leaders.
Most if not all central Asian nations have either opposed or abstained all anti russia motions in the UN.
The US resistance to the Brazil space program surprised me because the NASA Aqua satellite was launched in 2002 with the HSB (Humidity Sounder for Brazil) instrument which was a Brazilian instrument. It failed within a year of launch, but was an example of cooperation between the two nations in space.
Granted a instrument launched on an American Satellite is a bit different than a Brazilian Launch Site...
I am pretty sure the "Taiwanese nerds" you are referring to at 3:28 are actually Chinese university students from Nanjing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics.
Yeah especially since they're clearly using simplified Chinese characters in the video.
The whole video is pretty propagandistic. He claims that China must be censoring news about India's space progress because his "media bias" checker can't find English language articles in Chinese newspapers about it. Well, obviously it can't -- Chinese newspapers are written in Chinese.
It says in his channel Hong Kong
@@ldelgg No it is not, the school name is literally in the video. czcams.com/video/4xEx2EQIPD4/video.htmlsi=OBEib12LPX1_jfgR&t=192
@@ldelggBut it says at the end of on the videos Nanjing University of Aernautics and Astronautics. (also there's a big PRC flag in one of them). So either a mainlander who has a VPN in Hong Kong, or a Hong Konger who's studying in Nanjing.
Petition for Kraut to make more China and India related videos.
I'm down. Their "cold war" is stirring the pot across the whole continent.
nahhh. China and India are good topics, but the news has been inundated with them bnoth for farrr too long.
Maybe the guy could talk about the private space stuff.
He already did one about the both of them.
@@honkhonk8009😂😂. You're right but unfortunately that's only going to increase specially in the space sector.
Kraut missed that US is planning to return to the moon with Artemis in 2025, a plan made specifically because of Chinese ambition to do the same by 2040.
Now, even India has said that it eventually wants to have it's own space station and land an Indian on the moon.
Currently studying Spaceflight Mechanics and Systems. Really surprised and happy to see this video appear in my feed! It's provided a lot of geopolitical context that my course doesn't cover.
This channel is all about geopolitics, if you became somewhat interested in the topic I would reccomend watching other videos of his, they are great
This is different from the usual videos that can be expected from Kraut, but, as a space enthusiast, I AM HERE FOR IT.
Either way, space exploration is deeply tied to geopolitics so I hope we can expect more content about space on this channel.
I think we likely will in some time, space will be the single most important geopolitical topic in the coming years.
Poland has long planned to land the first man on the surface of the sun. After intense criticism that their astronauts would burn up, they explained they would go at night in winter time.
As a New Mexican I used to tell the same joke, but then Richard Branson into’d space and messed it all up
Tępy chuju masz nas za idiotów? wylądujemy w nocy :P
In my country we don't have Polish jokes, so our set up involved the Soviets sending brunettes and redheads to space, so the blondes plan to land on the Sun.
I know you love Taiwan very much, however that Taiwanese nerd is actually a Chinese student from Nanjing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics（南京航空航天大学）. His name is Shang Liu （刘上）, and he was born in Changde, Hunan, not in Taiwan.
He got a lot of facts about China's space program wrong, anyone that watches this video could get the impression that Europe and India are more advanced than China in space and that's just wrong. He didn't even mention the Chinese space station that right now has astronauts in orbit, the only other country that went alone making their own space station was the USSR.
I'm a brazilian and my undergraduate thesis is about the brazilian space program. First I will say you got did point out well various things about the brazilian space program, including the bit about the quilombolas.
It is also true that the US has storically been very much against the brazilian space program, which can be seen by a wikileaks of 2009 where the US tried to convince Ukraine of not cooperating with the brazilian space program. Not only that, the Accident of Alcatara, in which a big explosion of the first satellite capable rocket of the country occurred a few days before launch and killed more than 20 scientists, is sometimes speculated to be a work of american sabotage. The thing I though you were inacurate is saying that the US has stopped this posture against the brazilian space program. The Tecnology Safeguards Agreement negotiated in 2019 and ratified more recently did permit US companies to launch in Brazil, but it imposed a heavy ammount of control from the US to any activities there, whether a company launches a US rocket or just a single US made equipment, everything is overseen by the US. The agreement is much more restrictive than other agreements of this kind, like the one beetwen the US and UK. So the US is still trying to stop Brazil here.
Another thing of note is that the achivments of Brazil's space program were made against the odds from a resource point of view, even more so after the end of the military. Brazil invests very little in it's space program, in fact it is the smallest amount as a percentage of GDP in all the big economies of the world. Not only that but the organization of such program is a mess, with a civil agency that has barely any power but planning(AEB), the military (FAB, that are in charge of rockets) and a very well educated laboratory that produces one of the most advenced space literatures in the world even as it repetedly recieved budgets cuts from Bolsonaro for their continual coverage about the Amazon deforestation (INPE). Honestly, I'm surprised we even have as much progress as we have now, since our government really doesn't invest enough into the area. The saddest part is that Brazil really has a good scientific community that studies the subject and universities that are top class in meteology and aerospace, we could probably achieve much if there was any substantial investment.
Who the hell would think america sabotaged your tiny 380kg to orbit rocket? why would they do that?? why would anyone think that? rockets go boom, thats kind of their whole thing.
Anyway i am interested in why you think america is throttling the brazilian space industry. its not like brazilian launchers really matter at all.
@@jusu8961 market competition, our sites could cause divestment in america and we could get a good amount of advanced technology which is probably be seen as a threat by americans, specially now that space war is something in the near future
I'm Brazilian and to this day I don't understand how a country full of people, raw materials and a perfect geography chooses to sell what it has to the USA instead of protecting and feeding the national industry.
That’s a question for Brazilians to answer for themselves. You have been persuaded that you are a “poor” country, you’re not. People don’t steal from poor countries. So, your most precious resource isn’t the raw materials, it’s the minds of Brazilians. Invest money into developing and retaining intellectual capital, and you will become not only a regional power but also a player on the world stage.
This is crazy I was literally just thinking man Kraut hasn’t made an upload in a while
12:49 You forgot that India too was restricted by the US just like Brazil. Indian space program struggled and persevered through these restrictions. They were lifted only in 2011.
Let's be honest. USA did more than just restrict.
@@hydrogen5087Sabotage for sure. The USA is vad atcreatjng good engineers so I expect them to go talent hunting around Asia and Europe in the near future.
this is one of my personal favourite videos you've done. thanks for putting in the effort to make these.
One of the things that truly makes me smile is seeing that kraut made a new video
No New Zealand? Im surprised you didnt mention Rocket Lab and the fact that they're in second place after SpaceX in the private space race.
SK NK Israel also didn't get mentioned.
Rocket lab is now US co so maybe that's why
Yeah I was really surprised to not see them mentioned, especially considering they’re among the cheapest if not the cheapest rockets launched at the moment
Rocket Lab is an American company under ITAR that works for the department of defense and with American citizens on their leadership. They only use New Zealand for their location. Independently, New Zealand would have NEVER developed a space program.
If Poland (with or without ESA) ever starts a kickstarter for a space program I think the internet would get together and chip in enough for a Polish space program
I mean at least I would
Poland is already doing trials on suborbital rockets. There is two organisations who are doing their own projects: one is government owned- Institute Of Aviation with rocket named Amber 2k. The other one is private company named Spaceforest and their rocket is named Perun. Both organisations had test flights with lower altitude targets and in my opinion Perun is more likely to achieve suborbital space flight first because in recent months Spaceforest has already tested Perun two times and is preparing for third flight.
We are using KSP as a base for designs. What can go wrong? ;)
Seriously though, Poland most likely will do something with ESA...
Can I get a "Polish Space Marines" patch as backer reward?
My godfather used to work for the Brazilian space program, and I feel like you forgot to mention something important (or maybe it just isn't public knowledge).
Several years ago a launch went catastrophically wrong: the rocket (I can't remember what it's name was) exploded killing a lot of important people in the Brazilian space sector, that were my godfather's friends and co-workers. The lost of life, of the expertise the dead had, of the rocket, of the money it costed and the consequently lost face basically meant that the funding for the space program was almost non existence, which set it back for at least a decade.
(This is a story I grew up hearing, and I haven't thought about it in a long time, so forgive me if the details are a little vague)
Edit: I just googled it in 2003 the VLS-01 (Veículo Lançador de Satélites) exploded while it was still being worked on, three days before scheduled launch, killing 21 people and the dream of an Brazilian rocket.
Holy cow, Kraut talks of Poland🥰 Pls do more - we are in a very interesting point right now, basically divided into two hating each other Polands❤️🤍
nie widzę 7 gwiazdek, nie widzę też napisów jeb*ć PO , ani naklejek w stylu PiS gdzie za I robi narząd męski, tylko jedna strona nienawidzi drugiej, a ja poyebanych ludzi nie nienawidzę
There was nearly nothing about Poland in this video though
That's just how Polish people operate. Sees one pole and immediately gets incredibly excited. "Wow look mum I am at the TV!" @@ColorPandora
I was going to make a comment about how it’s been 3 years since the last “yearly” long form video, BUT you said be nice so good luck on making it
I know. I am sorry. Thank you for being nice.
you are loved and appreciated in the eyes of the Dark Gods@@Kraut_the_Parrot
What was the Chinese space failure in 2021 though?
Edit: Alright so I think kraut is referring to the Shiyan 10 satellite failure launched Sept 27. That or the Hyperbola 1 or Kuazhou 1A failures. But I'm not sure if that counts as "plagued with failures".
Also those "failures" we're of the Chinese private space sector, a bunch of startups, not the Chinese National Space Administration (Chinese equivalent of NASA)
Brazil was not the only one who was restricted rocket technology for their space program.
It was the same for India, hence why we relied on the Soviets to launch our first satellites and based our engines on Soviet technology
Rodacy, dokonaliśmy tego. Znów o nas mówią i tym razem nie przez Wardęgę!!
Nasi tu byli!
Siema.
Time to can into space.
Kraut makes the most entertaining, enticing and educating vids ever!
You are somewhat incorrect in your explanation about why equatorial locations are good for space launches: While it is true that the equator does provide a boost during the launch, the much larger issue is actually in lowering the payloads' inclination, which gets most costly the farther you are from the equator.
Since you seemed to focus on space exploration, rather than commercial or military satellite launches (which make up the absolute majority of all space launches), the advantages that some locations have are quite relevant, as almost all interplantary missions for instance would prefer an equatorial inclination.
It still has to be noted, that most launches do NOT need to launch from an equatorical location. Equatorial orbits are generally only really useful for either interplanetary or geostationary target orbits.
God, I love the quality of your conten, Lance.
Is this Kraut lore cannon?
Love your amazing video’s kraut. Keep it up💪
DAMN YOU KRAUT
I was clickbaited thinking it will be about Poland
To answer the question in the title.
Poland right now is about to achieve the ability to launch suborbital rockets. That's no it yet, but the Perun rocket is a big steap in direction towards the stars for Poland.
We had our own science rocket program in 50s and 60s that was closed without any reasonable reason while it was in advanced stage.
My day just went from no Kraut lecture to Kraut lecture. 🤠
Very good video. And yes, the "history" of how Brazilian "launch site" came to be is complete news to me. Thanks for covering that.
It's called expropriation and happens all the time, including in countries where the rule of law applies (let alone in Brazil). Who cares?
@@jclfreitas I care because while it is normal it isn't usually hidden from people's view. That's the point of contention (at least biggest one). Doing it shadely.
@@jannegrey593 WE GOT IT ON THE SPACEPORT WIKIPEDIA PAGE
and it acually existening its kinda of a miracle honestly, very little funding , political and military pressures and retrictions on its power , and acidents that killed people with a lot of expertixe
Glad to see another upload, keep it up!
Brazilian here: the explosion at the launch site in 2003 was a significant setback, as it killed many experienced engineers and technicians. To this day, there are people who are not convinced it was an accident.
Poland trying not to be spiteful towards Russia challenge: impossible
Krauts not trying quarrel the Slavs challenge: impossible (if GER did not feed Putin via NS1 and NS2 he would be less neoimperialistic and Poles would be less spitefull)
BASED POLAND 🇮🇩 💪
Least based man in Poland:
@@chlopakzpolskiLeave to the Germans to cooperate the with Russians. Wouldn’t be the first time that happened lol.
As a space and politics nerd I need your sources on this.
Absolutely want to learn every detail I can
This was fun to watch!! Thank you for being witty and entertaining
I'm embarking on a realistic hard scifi worldbuilding project so you have no idea how perfect your timing was for me
French guyana is an oversees department and not a territory. It has the same status as any other department of metropolitan france so the likelyhood of it going independed is probably rather slim
So was Goa to Portugal lol, how did that end?
@@xijinpig8982french Guyana has voted twice in favour of remaining a part of France and rejecting autonomy. Besides, Goa was invaded by India. Are you suggesting Brazil will invade France through the Amazon rainforest lmao
@xijinpig8982 was goa ever more than a colonial territory?
Regardless the point is moot since goa didn't chose independece, it was invaded and annexed.
@@thewingedserpent5823 technically yes, but nobody ever considered Goa a decolonised territory, whereas the entire world, NGOs and states, agree that French Guiana is a decolonised territory
The French said the same thing about Algeria.
Very cool to see the location of space ports mentioned, ever since Mossdeep City in Hoenn being based off Tanegashima, it was interesting to see the low latitude east coasts was such a common location for launches
Nice to see this type of video once and a while.
The US also launches out of California , from Vandenberg space force base, and Virginia, from Wallops. There are also some private companies with small sat launch vehicles that launch out of Alaska.
Yeah, Kraut seems to be focusing specifically on equatorial launches.
Also he left out Texas.
Can’t wait for Brazil to become a big player in space like people are predicting, like how they became a super power. Oh wait…
This country will only be something when people like our citizens stop coping about it and actually do something
Brazil also suffered a setback in 2003 when there was an explosion at the launch site.
Imagine some spaniards making a voyage around the solar system, it would be awesome
9:54 I experienced this firsthand in Japan. The Tokyo Skytree had a small aerospace museum, and I was FLOORED when I saw it. Japan landed on a damn ASTEROID and fired the sample BACK TO EARTH-- the sample was on display at the museum. I was alone in that museum, everyone else was buying some silly tourist nonsense. It blows my mind that nobody cares about Japan's space achievements.
The world is a small place.
Funny coincidence, today was actually the grand opening of the Andøya Spaceport in northern Norway. (It's only a launch site for smaller satellites though, up to 1500kg)
Equatorial orbits are not the only desirable orbits for satellites. Currently Russia's second most advanced cosmodrome is at Plesetsk, which is even further north from Helsinki. It's used for polar orbit launches. USA also launches a vast number of polar orbit flights from Vandenberg, California.
yep I get to see some of their launches
10:30 I have never needed more strength to continue watching a kraut video
I never saw this recommended, glad I checked your channel after your community post
Keep up the good work
The soviet space program didnt exactly stagnated after korolev they kept on going and were onto produce stuff like the energia
The problem is that the soviet space program was in the soviet union
Holy shit - Kraut doing a video about space exploration? What is this, my birthday, Christmas and Easter combined?
Seriously, this was amazing. The video was as great as always, but that this was about a topic I’m pretty passionate about (more than your usual topics) was even better. I’d love to see more videos about this topic, but even so I’m looking forward to whatever you produce next!
Your videos are a treasure. Thank you!
Kraut, I believe you got some details wrong in this video. For example, you said the Philippines relied on China for its satelite launches but if you looked up the list of Philippine satellites, you would find that most of those launches are from the United States. Sure, most of those launches are in the 2010s but even if you focus onlyvon satellite launches before 2010, you would only find 2 satellite launches and only 1 of those is Chinese.
I recall the last ones were launched from Japan
A hard moment when following any youtuber is when he covers a topic you're familiar with.
Your portrayal of the chinese space program is dismissive and downplays their enormous achievements. Two crewed space stations, significant activities in cislunar space...
The video is also riddle with other smaller inaccuracies, but nothing that detracts from the main message too strongly.
There are also some omissions. For example there is another, more important, reason spaceports must be close to the equator, it's very hard or impossible to achieve low inclination orbits otherwise, including GEO and a number of trajectories beyond Earth's sphere of influence. This is not crucial, but it's a pet peeve of mine that it gets forgotten since it's so important.
China notwithstanding, it's a good video although definitely an outsider's perspective.
this is the smoothest segway to a sponsor I've ever seen.
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What you are saying in the first part of the video is correct - for GEO-orbiting satellites, like for instance broadband television. But Sweden has a launch site for polar orbiting satellites already, in the north part of Sweden i.e., Norrland or in English North Land. And we have had a space program and launch site connected to Universities in Norrland and the rest of Sweden for a long long time.
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Was reviewing a paper on the Outer Space Treaty, hell of a time to release this😤🙏🔥
I like Kraut videos and space stuff. This has both.
The location of launch sites isn't actually as big a hurdle as it's often said to be. For one, artificial launch sites (offshore platforms) have always been an option--the Italians, prior to ESA's organization, launched rockets from an offshore platform off eastern Africa. There was a joint venture to launch Zenit rockets from a similar platform called SeaLaunch, though that went bankrupt for political reasons. And, if one gets really desperate, one can actually launch against Earth's rotation by firing westward--Israel does this because all its eastern neighbors are unpleasant. You eat some percentage loss in payload, but that can be countered by making a bigger rocket. The loss isn't really huge anyway--on the order of 10%.
While there are alternative lunch platforms, they are severely limited in terms of efficiency and size. To my knowledge, most of the rockets shot from offshore platforms are suborbital rockets, because no offshore platform support the sizes required for orbital rockets. It also extends the time, and is more complex (transpiration) then shore-based lunch sites. It is not without reason why SpaceX for example have given up on offshore based lunch platforms, even if they claim that they'll revisit the idea.
@@andreassag Most, yes, but not all--Zenit was a quite large rocket, comparable to Falcon 9, and it flew mostly off a platform.
Hi, I am from Perú, I don't know how my country ended up as an APSCO member 😂, maybe in the future north region of Trujillo (very close to the Ecuador) could become new Chinese launch site
Hi watching from Guam here. Thank you for your great content !
Amazed at the accuracy of the definition of an equivalence relation
I heard they sent a rocket to the sun once, at night
So Poland CAN into space - just as a part of EU.
Well, good timing on that, one Pole is already scheduled to go into space soon
i could literally talk about this subject for days without a break
Nice video again
I learned a lot about space travel today
Wonderful video as always, Kraut! Really loved watching this one. The fact that some media always forget that the looming space race is between Asian countries and not USA and China will always be amusing to me.
US and China are the only countries to land rovers on Mars (US many times). US is only country to put a man on the moon. Its not really a race until they get even close to those
Something that seems to be ignored is that the USA, Europe and japan work extremely close together in space exploration, and india is slowly entering this space sphere. Thats why the ISS works so well(except for the russian part).
You are correct on the asian space race, however the close ties of japan and india to Europe and the US in space means it does end up being a US china space race.
Also for military and earth monitoring missions an orbit over the poles is best suited. For those the position of the launch site isn't important. So even if a country doesn't have a good equatorial launch site, they can easily get a polar orbit.
The perfect 16 minutes to spend before my class. Cheers!
Glad someone acknowledges Italy's relevance in space tech and components.
You forgot to mention that Sweden is expanding it's northern Esrange launch site and will become Europe's only orbital capable launch site on mainland soil.
I'd be interested in knowing how much cheaper launching from there actually is compared to the overseas territories. I'd guess it's much closer to where all the parts are built, but the distance from the equator makes it seem like the rockets would be more expensive. Maybe it's a question of payload mass.
Why you didn't mention the Chinese space station or the Chinese space probe program on the moon and mars? You mentioned India's program on the Moon and Europe's deep space missions but not China's.
Yep, also he handvawed away the US's strategic dominance in space as just a continuation of its prior state while there has been a GIGNATIC inversion in its root cause. The US was on the decline severely in term of launch competitiveness and launch capabilities and had briefly fallen behind both russia (pre- 2014 invasion) and China... Until spaceX happened
80% of the total mass to orbit launched this year was due entirely to the endeavours of a single private company for their own wider mission of space developement and interplanetary colonisation, NOT a state apparatus.
This is a GIGANTIC diffrence, but he glosses over it
That was one of the best ads/sponsorships I've seen inserted into a video. Damn that was smooth.
I liked your Brain4breakfast style. Really great video, i learned a ton of new things.
Did Kraut really say that India's education system is "open" "freethinking" and "creative"? India's education system is notoriously known to be extremely cutthroat, plagued by underfunding and more similar to the Chinese education system than Western compatriots.
I think you understood wrongly. He is trying to show that you can easily find Indian tutorials to nearly any subject or topic, in English, even in CZcams. The education system is very open. I think something people take for granted is India is quite literally overly free. In almost every way. If you decided today to be a spiritual sage and go meditate in the Himalayas for 20 years nobody will stop you. If you decide to go build a hut in the middle of a jungle amd live alone nobody will stop you. Little things in the news make it look like India is becoming some kind of Authoritarian regime when its really the exact opposite.
@@xijinpig8982As an Indian that is really quite an exaggeration. And not everything has to be about hermits lol. The presence of Indian educatirs on CZcams means very little compared to the bugger picture of our society, its corruption, backwardness, authoritarianism. It's certainly not all bad but it's certainly not an idyllic wild west.
It depends. Indian education can be both. However, most people stop following Indian education system after 10th. From the look of it might look this. Each state conducts their own examination as well Private university have their own different entrance exam. These examination are not hard. But people choose to study for the hardest thing possible in India with a backup. People may choose to not study for the hardest one. Many people are in for all or nothing type of mood which gives them unnecessary stress. Ultimately, many people take their own life due to this.
In some universities, Indian Govt. give quota to certain people. Indian course have relative grading. These people who came via quota and then studying with some people with out their league as after 10th people don't follow Indian education system. People study to for hardest exam possible for stream related things than wasting it on something else where people can't even score full marks in an MCQ paper. Since, people are getting sorted due to preference in university. The people came via quota face extreme pressure in those Indian universities. Ultimately, the result.
Even in Indian university, those who can handle pressure and just want to maintain grades(which is majority) don't follow Indian universities but rather prepare for something else.
It's kraut, what do you expect
Well, he got it right about not being held by an ideology (as of yet, there's a Hindu nationalistic government so you never know how that might change). And as cutthroat as it is, there's increasingly better changes done to it like the new education policy which when fully implemented could be a game changer. It isn't as centralised and closed off as the Chinese one and it's only getting better.
But I did find the explicit mention of the indian education system (as it is now) as an important difference between the two countries space journey kinda funny.
The most important distinctions between the two is the growth of both private space companies and the government agency of India. The frugality of space missions and a chance to collaborate with other advanced space agencies like JAXA and NASA.
personal bugbear 2:56 the USSR is not just Russia - BTW Zasiadko & Korolev were Ukrainian (as were a lot of the scientists & engineers involved) & you know the Baikonur Cosmodrome is in Khazakstan.
Great video, thanks!
Please make a video on the moral arc of history
Do you mean historiography? History has no moral (or narrative) arcs unless people who write history insert some.
I guess so, I think a video on thd idea itself of the moral arc of history would be interesting
Korolev's biography is a perfect example of USSR and Russia (and authocracies in general) shooting itself in the knee in pursuit of a total control
As an American i gotta say. Im really happy for india and i truly believe india is one of our most important allies and we need to take them more seriously
Definitely if we can get India strong China is fucked so I think we should support them
This video didn't mention when US also sanctioned India & they put ban on Russian cryo engine sales to India!!!
No such bans for china tho, it held us back by a decade, hence the reason for limited co-op, India instead has great co-op with France & Japan.
All 3 nations focus on indigenous tech & not being seen as junior partners with washington
India and the US really got off on the wrong foot during the Cold War era, because the US, for some reason we will never know, looked at South Asia and made the conclusion that Pakistan would be a beacon of democracy and India eventually a communist failed state. We will never know the reason why. But that being said, I do believe there is a lot the India - US relationship holds for the future. I think emotional Indians need to realise this, Russia has failed. That was the past. This is the future.
One further note on soviet rocket engines: as mentioned, they used to be sold to american rocket companies, but this is not only due to them being the first pioneers of rocket propulsion, but instead due to them being pioneers in specific rocket combustion cycles.
The engine on the Atlas V which is the workhorse of the ULA and serves MANY military contracts is the russian RD-180, which was developed in the 80's. This is being phased out due to national security concerns and due to the ukraine invasion, but if neither of these had been a concern then I'm very sure the RD-180 would've been used well into the 2030's, because it's a proven and reliable engine using a combustion cycle which is rarely described as either (that being the oxygen-rich staged combustion cycle, well known for melting or rusting apart engines made out anything less than vibranium). The russians pioneered the oxygen-rich staged combustion cycle and are still masters of it, though they've stagnated in their ability to develop it further, and this means that russian engines are still the best option for many purposes.
But yeah, I agree with your point of russian space tech stagnating. The sad truth is that even their most marvelous creations can only ever get funded for their value as propaganda or weaponry.
Great video dude