Bakugo vs Todoroki Rematch! - My Hero Academia
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Until Shoto wins the battle he got going on internally he ain’t beating Bakugo or Deku
I think he’s pretty much beaten most obstacles of that internal battle. He’s using both fire and ice, he just needs to get stronger.
naomi obi He needs to learn close combat
He already beat the battle internally he uses both fire and ice
He is over that but the others would still win because they grew more.and are not 100% reliant on their quirks, whilst Todoroki is, and both others hav3 advantage in mobility, ability to counter the large huts, and I can mostly say probably more fight experience (you know how much Deku fights and bakugo has been getting into fights since he was like six.
You guys realize that Bakugo is literally sweating explosives, right? Explosives that can be blown up by extreme heat? Bakugo is a walking bomb, and all Todoroki needs to do is light the fuse, and them BOOM. Bye bye, Kacchan.
Todoroki is naturally stronger, but Bakugo is more skilled. Todoroki still relies too much on his quirk.
But like it was said shoto could over haul the terrain then bakugo would have use his quirk a lot and he would wear out his quirk causing the fight to be easier to todoroki by just using his flame quirk the check mate
To think that out of the big 3 in 1A Bakugo is probably the one with less raw power
@@PalliestPlain273 one big explosion melts the ice and fixes the terrain. And once bakugou gets in his face he ain't leaving til todoroki is KO'd even if he gets burned. That's the deku mindset of just dealing with the pain until the job is done.
@@PalliestPlain273 That's a nice strat that todorki simply wouldn't be smart enough to utilize. Cuz if he was he would have solo'd that class B team. Todoroki isn't as smart with his quirk as he should be.
You guys realize that Bakugo is literally sweating explosives, right? Explosives that can be blown up by extreme heat? Bakugo is a walking bomb, and all Todoroki needs to do is light the fuse, and them BOOM. Bye bye, Kacchan.
There was a surprising amount wrong in this video. For starters, Bakugo's winter costume was designed to help him with his quirk because his quirk relies on his sweat, and at colder temperatures, he sweats less, which is why he says that it takes him a while to get going in winter on multiple occassions. Second, Bakugo's bracers have only been broken in the end of term fight against All Might. Bakugo doesn't use them that much because although they're powerful, they take a bit to prime, and would be overkill in most scenarios. Finally, I'm surprised no one considered all of the stuff Todoroki and Bakugo were learning under Endeavor. Todoroki has been working on flashfire, both creating and shaping it, giving him more defensive and close quarters options. Bakugo has been working on compressing his explosions and drawing out his maximum fire power quicker, which would increase his speed and agility.
Jordan Holt and wasn’t shoto working on how to fly with his fire. It may not be as fast as bakugo blasting everywhere but I’m pretty sure it’d help him dust the edge off if shoto fought bakugo
@@flvckoVLONE no...he just learned to focus his fire...even against ending he was running...infact it was told by endeavour himself that he can't fly, at best he can hover in air, and thats only because endeavour uses fire on both sides
Bakugo will win because of 2 reasons
1. He can destroy the ice really easily
2. The more hotter the fire gets the more bakugo sweats that means he can create gigantic explosions far beyond from what we've seen so using fire will just help him win. Todoroki and bakugo aren't a good match up
The ice can cool Bakugou not saying he would lose bot it would be pretty close
Deku & Asta good point
Bakugo also has the agility advantage and the gauntlets help too
Like it was said in the video shoto could turn himself into a blazing tornado so tht wold mean Bakugo would be incinerated becauseas you said bakugo would be in close proximity
and shoto can ruin bakugo's attacks by using his fire since its litearlly combustion if he uses howitzer impact shoto is gonna create fire and ruin t
Bakugou has increased range with his AP shots, a stun grenade for close range, and way better combat methods.
Bakugou slaps
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Not fax
Bakugo don’t slap
The way the society is right now, I don’t think we’re getting a second sports festival lol
I think they may like rebuild all the destroyed buildings and houses and deal with the aftermath of the villians,get some therapy and such,after like a couple month timeskip,then we could possibly get a second sports festival.
Not any time soon bro😅
Unfortunately
LOL NO CAP
I would love to see bakugos quirk evolve to allow him to shoot out explosions out of his FEET
It probably will, just explosions from everywhere (damn, I would hate to be there when he sneezes then, sneezing out C4's lol)
That man would be unstoppable if his quirk evolves
Fire force has entered the chat
@@abdullahsalim601 between 1A students
Oh god. That would be terrifying because he'd literally be a battle weapon. That also supports my theory how Bakugou will be number one for a while until he gets sent back in time-
This is how I see it, shoto Todoroki have an overpowered quirk for most of his life. In most eyes, shoto quirk is way more overwhelming than bakugo, but that’s his downfall since he always had an extremely good quirk he never attempted to practice strategically like bakugo does secretly or how mydoria does it as well. In short terms, bakugo will most likely win since he is both brains and brawn despite his all aggressive act.
“Todoroki is definitely no stranger to damage.” I mean. It’s not like he’s been beaten on by the number two hero for over ten years.
He got 4-5 punches from hot iron watch anime
@@EnglishIndiaArt actually he got beaten with a wooden sword in season 5 u see it he got burned punched until he puked stated in the manga that Shouto said and i quote "I got my quirk beaten into me" and Endeavour admits beating his son in the manga to the press
@@keigo6638 still explosions won't affect him because red iron is hotter than explosions and one flash fire fist would remove Bakugo from existence
@@EnglishIndiaArt bakugo is faster stronger and smarter than todoroki. Bakugou already effortlessly broke thru his ice even aizawa stated bakugo was toying with todoroki during the sports festival. Bakugo AND deku led their teams to perfect 4-0 victories in the joint training. What did todoroki do? Struggled against tetsutetsu and u think he can beat bakugo 😂😂😂😂
@@backing5284 his quirk is way more powerful and Aizawa never stated that go see then say I have all episodes and one attack can kill Bakugou and Bakugou any attack is not that strong to give damage to Shot
I am surprised you guys didnt mention Bakugo just melting the ice around him with his own quirk.
Not melt, break, bakugos quirk does have heat but it's more destructive then heat produced
You guys realize that Bakugo is literally sweating explosives, right? Explosives that can be blown up by extreme heat? Bakugo is a walking bomb, and all Todoroki needs to do is light the fuse, and them BOOM. Bye bye, Kacchan.
@@zusfrankenstein8561 yeah but Bakugou obviously knows that and he is smart enough to counter his weakness
@@1moneyking by doing what? dodging? no matter how he dodges, if todoroki has his quirk full power (or even half or a quarter), bakugou cant approach from either side cause he either gets suicide bombed by himself or chilled which reduces his sweating capacity, which both mess him up. also todoroki's left is resistant to flames, so if he protects his right with ice he's pretty much invulnerable to bakugou
if bakugou had his gauntlets tho he could go for a one-shot on todoroki, because no matter how much ice he has bakugou's mega explosion would rip through it, and then he could just keep recharging his gauntlets
tbh shouto doesn't have much in the way of support items, so without costumes i think he would win, but with costumes bakugou would win
@@dipperz nah that won't happen even if it does Bakugou will survive
But don't you guys also think the heat from Shoto would make Bakugo sweat even more thus allowing him to increase the power of the explosion
You do realize that he sweats nitro-glycerin, which can also be triggered by fire, right? (That's literally what they did against a villain in the first movie) Bakugo's covered in explosive sweat, and one light touch of flame from Todoroki, and BOOM. He literally detonates like a bomb. Bye bye Kacchan. Sure, the heat might make him sweat more, but that just makes him easier to explode.
@@zusfrankenstein8561 You know Bakugo has insane heat resistance? He can resist against his own explosions.
@@jakerobbers5492 exactly
@@zusfrankenstein8561 he does not sweat nitro glycerine he sweats a substance like it
@@zusfrankenstein8561 only from his palms ...good luck targeting his palms when he is moving like a pinball...not to mention it works both ways...if bakugou covers shoto with his sweat, his fire will be completely shut down because his own fire will trigger explosions on his own body
Bakugou has way more technique than shoto imo. Shoto still relies too much on his quirk but is showing that hes becoming more diverse with it after the endeavor arc
You guys realize that Bakugo is literally sweating explosives, right? Explosives that can be blown up by extreme heat? Bakugo is a walking bomb, and all Todoroki needs to do is light the fuse, and them BOOM. Bye bye, Kacchan.
Yeah, it depends on how far along todoroki is when it comes to building on his own quirk. While he can use it, but currently Bakugou has that advantage over him, as he has an impressive amount of control
@@zusfrankenstein8561 that's not how Bakugo's quirk works. The reason for him to not explode while sweating a nitroglycerin like substance is because he can chose when to create explosions
@@zusfrankenstein8561 bakugo is resistance to explosions
@@ileonardoi3791 He can detonate them from his palms, but that doesn't mean other sources of heat can't detonate his sweat. We literally see this happen in the canon My Hero Academia movie, Two Heroes. Bakugo puts some sweat on a villain and Todoroki detonates it with his flames.
People really be out here saying bakugo wouldnt win because todoroki woukd outsmart him but everyone forgetting that bakugo is genuinely super smart and In combat is incredibly creative and reactive to his opponents. Also the man can do backflips so bring it on icy hot heathens
I wouldn’t say that Bakugo depends on his support items as much as he maximizes his use of them.
Ikr he can't do those long range explosions without his gauntlets, but it'll hurt him. We all know he'll push himself to win tho
Bakugo has long rang attacks. Ap shot
He used it in the provisional license exam
and Todoroki does have fire,but hes too focused on that one fire blast.Bakugo attacks are also faster
Most of this argument focuses on what the characters could do, instead of what they would do. I could think of a couple ways for kaminari to beat bakugou but we both know that's not about to happen.
Thank you, everyone thinks that the heat will make more sweat for bakugou but it will likely melt it, and they it think of their skills in certain parts in the manga and anime instead of all of their scenes
You guys realize that Bakugo is literally sweating explosives, right? Explosives that can be blown up by extreme heat? Bakugo is a walking bomb, and all Todoroki needs to do is light the fuse, and them BOOM. Bye bye, Kacchan.
@@Salchicha69 bakugo is a naturally smart fighter and hes willing to push his self to win
yungworldwide 456 no his sweat is flammable so it will combust, essentially turning bakugo into a bomb. His arms and hands would take a lot of damage.
@@cxmbosama3437 Bakugo's limitation to heat is almost as great as Todoroki's.
I think Bakugo wins in a good fight. Todoroki can control the terrain but the destructive power of Bakugo's explosions can destroy Todorokis ice. He can regulate the temprature to stop sweating but explosions generate heat to generate more sweat. We've seen how much Howitzer Impact can destroy todoroki and fire would not change that outcome as fire doesn't have a defensive output outside of setting yourself on fire which won't save you from Howitzer Impact. Bakugo wins without support items in a very tough fight
With support items Bakugo wins much easier. With his support items he can have much more range with AP shot and Autofire. AP shot penetrated cementos' cement which is more durable than todorokis ice, as his ice has been been cut by stains knives and even Twices tape measure. Todoroki has utility items which is not too useful in a one on one fight. Also, I don't think Todoroki can break his gauntlets, so far they have only broken from a punch from All Might, which is destructive output that Todoroki can't output, and extreme temperatures wouldn't mess with them cuz they aren't tech based, their basically giant water tanks with an igniting pin, that's not tech. Bakugo wins.
Shotos advantages: Terrain control, level headedness, versitility and temperature regulation
Bakugos advantages: Durability, Mobility, Destructive output, (possibly) more combat intelligence, combat skill, better support items and physical strength (he sent Deku flying with a non explosive punch enough to bend metal bars)
All for One bro aren’t u in prison?
@@oinko_7644 its one of his quirks
He texting from prison lmao
Okay I totally agree with you. ALSO HOW *ARE* YOU TEXTING?! YOU'RE IN PRISON!!
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...dont tell the guards
Todoroki struggled against class B students, meanwhile bakugo got a perfect victory with ease. If I’m not mistaken, either Deku or all might literally called bakugo the most powerful student in the manga
yeah but shoto just discovered his fire.if he can master endeavors prominence burn,hellspider,jetburn.can be realy deadly and not to mention turning to a lava beyblade like endeavor 😂.He might awaken blue flames.
Student”s” Um no he only struggled against Testu testu and he almost was about to knock him out cold with a close range attack until Juzo interrupted it. Testu was even screaming because shotos flames were too hot. Also the students shotos team went up against even stated that they can’t do a frontal attack because todoroki would destroy them. 💤 😴
IM α GENIUS Y33T yeah but we’re talking bout as of right now
Yvng Dre They never called Bakugo that. At best, he’s been called one of the strongest. And about Todo struggling against Tetsu, that was just a bad match up. However, Tetsu was about to melt when Todo raised his firepower to the point it surpassed Endeavor’s.
Real Deal yeah but bakugo beat Kirishima who is stronger
34:36 not true he doesnt lose the ability to do the ultra move as you put it. The support item was just to make it so he can do it safely. which was stated during the school exam when he was with deku against all might
bakugo is the same level as deku rn todorokis heat will fuel bakugos explosions
sam alrab you guys act like bakugo wouldn’t hurt himself if he gets too strong and shoto has ice
shoto’s fire would detonate his sweat and hurt bakugo
Novaa That Todoroki can only ignite Bakugo if he hits his hands which is where his explosions cone from . He will burnt tho and it will do damage. Idk how Bakugo can. Be hurt by his own explosions is when he actually puts force and power past his limit.
Bakugo has never once had his explosions blow up on him. He literally grab shoto hot side in there first fight. Why do u think bakugo would just let him nuke himself
Bakugou vs Shoto statistic by statistic.
Speed: Bakugou
Power: Shoto
Combat IQ: Bakugou
Determination: Bakugou
Endurance: Bakugou physically/ todoroki quirkwise
Durability: Bakugou
Skill: Bakugou( Don't @ me todoroki couldn't deal with tetsutetsu when it should have been an absolute stomp)
Can't see how todoroki would work.
Ur right bakugo stomps
I wouldn't even give power to Shoto lol, I would just give him CC
@@backing5284 i also see this as bakugo stomping shoto i really dont know how shoto would win sadly
linda ozoemena I wouldn’t make a difference. Bakugo would still stomp. Bakugo has never been the type to test out a power clash anyway. He normally goes straight for the “kill”
@@lindaozoemena3910 lol, in the ultra analysis data book it says All Might is an S in every catagory including intelligence so that means he's as smart as Momo and Nezu, yeah I call bullshit
So If Todoroki wanted to fly like endeavor would he have to lay down sideways and turn up the flames
Trinity Oglesby I think flying is impossible, until he can use flames on both sides
Nah idiots dont underestimate the flames
endevour doesnt fly.he can hover.
He falls with style
Bakayaro Konoyaro
I doubt he’ll be able to do that...the whole point of his quirk is for it to be Half and Half.
Todoroki would have to make the fight last at least 15-20 min to make a meanigful change to the air temperature *long enough* to hinder bakugous quirk. Keep in mind that if bakugou is flying high about his ice, then the ice won't hinder his quirk. And todorki surrounding himself with fire is really a non factor because he can attack from 15 feet out and still hit him with enough force to KO him. Keep in mind that ap shot would be an insta knockout even restrained.
I cant believe he forgot about the ap shot.
I debate about fights like this a lot with my friends so this was fun to watch. And while my opinion wasn’t really influenced much by what you two put forth. I think Bakugo would take the win in both instances. And I don’t even think it would be extremely difficult for him. With his explosions and speed, the ice can’t touch him, not a problem at all. And the fire is just gonna increase his sweat and power output. Plus with his concentrated explosion he learned with Endeavor, he has blinding speed and an insanely powerful attack I reckon he could use to get close and take Shoto out before the fire even had time to hurt him, if Shoto was able to hit him with it even. I mean out of the students, discounting the big three, Shoto isn’t even that far up there imo in comparison to what most people think. I reckon my placing would be from top to bottom of the higher ups: Bakugo, Inasa, Deku, Juzo, Jurota, Iida, Shoto, Tokoyami, Ibara, Seiji, Shoji.
I love bakugo as character matter a fact he’s actually my favorite but I feel like the author is holding out on his potential like for example do you guys kno how much of a monster bakugo would be if he could make explosions with his feet omfg
I thinking more on like explosion power with bakugo potential. If he could do our worlds nukes then bakugo would be crazy strong. And our nukes get hotter then any fire we can make.
You’re all sleeping on bakugous FEATS while hyping up speculation on todorokis quirk :/
Show some feats of Bakugo?
@@sageblast3143 He literally filled the whole training festival arena with an explosion, Todoroki stands no chance. Plus Todoroki has no combat technique at all and was thrown around by Bakugou.
@@mihajlomilisavljevic3438 facts todoroki relies on his quirk to much bakugo is way more versatile and agile
@@mihajlomilisavljevic3438 sorry to say but if shoto can get ahold of bakugo and freeze his insides(shown in u.s.j fight) bakugo wont be able to move or use his quirk giveing bakugo the win.also shoto
Could learn close combat giveing him a higher chance just there.
for now bakugo is a clear winner, hes got more technics strategies and a better usage of his quirk on top of having a good tenacity. Todoroki just relies to much on his quirk and lacks strats technics and everything bakugo has. But if we talk about what they could do if they achieve their full potential todoroki wins without question
1 word.. nuke ( an exaggeration but you get the idea).
@@zantosd.dreamer981no i dont
Yesss
Shoto isnt at his full pantanal and if he gets into a better relationship with is father could learn to use his quirk better and to his advantage.he could also learn close combat and that would also give him a higher chance of wining
Unless Shoto starts to learn close combat and being more diverse (which is slowly happening in the manga) Bakugou would win, no cap. Shoto depends too much on his quirk, which could be expected given how powerful it is. He literally just stands and let’s his quirk do the rest of the job. Meanwhile Bakugou is way more skilled, knows close combat or fighting from a distance, he’s always trying new things and adapting to his opponents. Tbh Bakugou would have won the sport festival in both cases, even if Shoto didn’t stop using his fire. But, Shoto is progressing (and so is Bakugou) and he could try to find other ways to fight. The two are very powerful in general
7:01 Todoroki was trained by Endeavor, he took punches from this guy a lot.
Abuse ;C
Usually when I see people bring this up they say todoroki would win
SMCrevival14 he won’t
SMCrevival14 but I feel like I WANT him to win but at the same time we NEED to see deku vs bakugo at their current potential
Todo sould win
See what I mean
Kirishima Gang he already lost once
I think in the sports festival even if shoto fired of his flame bakugou would still win because the way his howitzer impact is peform is a combination of speed and rotation. So even if shoto fired his flame bakuguo would disperse the flame using the whirl wind he created and land the shot.
Not really buddy. If that wind indeed was Vaccum. Spinning at over 450 rpm at no oxygen would have given bakugo convulsions.
Round 1) Everyone is looking at this fight like it's a death match and it's not. Looking at the facts Bakugo is a skilled fighter and Todoroki just has a powerful quirk, B (Bakugo) is extremely good in a close range 1 on 1 fight but can't snipe at range T (Todoroki) is really good at range and keeping people away. Bc they are in an open area they don't have to hold back and can go all out.
Looking at disadvantage B isn't the best at range and T couldn't win a in a real fight at all.
But looking at advantages B is a all around amazing fighter and can easily control his quirk and T is good at keeping people far away making up for the fact that he can't fight. !I believe both rounds will end the same keep reading!
Round 2) Looking at the support items for Bakugo he has the gauntlets, grenades, and gloves. Support for Todoroki is a outfit to help him better control his temp and snow boots. Now bc this fight is focused more on the support items we can't just say "Todoroki can just break Bakugos items because he can control the temperature" or "Bakugou can just Blast off all of Todorokis clothes" (tho I bet a lot of yall horny fucks would love that) SO support items will not be rendered in the fight.
Bakugo is now a lot better at range with his gauntlets and grenades and Todoroki has a bit more control of his quirk bc ot the fit. The fight will be a longer match and B will still have trouble getting near T but with the support he wouldn't have to worry about it and T with better control of his temp can hold on a bit longer in the fight. THE WINNER IN BOTH FIGHTS WOULD BE...Bakugo
Why? Ok so the fight would be hella long tbh bc they both have great counters for one another but I believe (and help me understand if I am wrong) Bakugo is physically stronger and has way more stamina than Todoroki right? Todorokis powers are also extremely difficult for for him to keep up with over time even with the outfit he would at some point just run out. Bakugo you could say the same thing but his power doesn't really hurt him that much bc he isn't straining himself by using big blast bc he can use the gauntlets for the big boy booms.
So it's really just a fight against themselves in a way to see who could hold out longer. I was trying to make the fight as far as possible by looking at facts and not just saying "well Bakugo would win because he can make big boom" or "Todoroki would win bc his ice and flam go brrrrrrrrrr". If you have a different idea of how the fight would go down I would really love to know (and please try to keep away from the "big boom" or "ice fire brrrrr" ideas bc that will get us nowhere) it is now 1:30 for me so goodnightmorning.
Zazzy Vibes todoroki can spam his powers since all he has to do is either heat himself up or cool himself down that’s it on the other hand bakugo would get weaker as the fight goes on because his hands and arms would start hurting and unable to make more explosions so short fight bakugo would win long fight todoroki wins they both have their ups and downs but potential wise todoroki will be stronger at the end unless the author gives bakugo some good old plot armor
@@rythmicchain5950 "todoroki can spam his powers since all he has to do is either heat himself up or cool himself down "
no he can't...not while he is pressured...he literally says this when he fights tetsutetsu...and idk who is spreading this false info, but bakugou's arms start hurting only if he uses too many of his full powered blasts...infact bakugou thrives on slug fests...the more he fights, the more he sweats and the stronger he gets...horikoshi literally described bakugou as a slow started in his character sheet, and this is mentioned by izuku and todoroki in canon too...if anything, i'd say todoroki would try to end the fight asap while bakugou will try to drag it out.
"potential wise todoroki will be stronger at the end unless the author gives bakugo some good old plot armor"
again who is spreading this mis information...if anything bakugou's potential is always stated in the manga by the likes of allmight and eraser head and even the league of villains because he fullfills 4 conditions...insane dedication, overwhelming hard work, great quirk and inborn battle sense...todoroki only has one of the above...a great quirk..his combat sense is nowhere near as good as bakugou, and his level of dedication to be the no.1 hero is also inferior...he also lacks the charisma that both izuku and bakugou have which improves the performance of the whole class .
It's a little easy to understand. Todoroki won against a weaker Deku while Bakugo won against a stronger Deku.
its more complicated though todoroki won against a deku who was less mobile and suffered from breaking bones...but his power output was higher, while bakugou won against a deku who had beter control over his power but his power output was alot weaker...but then you could argue bakugou never went all out with his power in that match either while todoroki clearly used his strongest move to beat deku.
Bakugo would win, hands down
Todoroki would win. If Todoroki used his quirk against Bakugo Todoroki would have won. It was even stated
@@kiseryouta9818 where was it stated?
@@kaushalkadam9476 Horikoshi said it in an interview. I think it's on CZcams. Just type in "Bakugou Vs Todoroki according to Horikoshi" it should show it
You just say that but you got no proof
Listen even during tht fight bakugo held back aizawa even stated that bakugo let him self get grabbed by todoroki to get him to use his fire 🤣
Stain was a rushdown fighter too, Todoroki didn't move against Stain. Bakugou is too agile for Todoroki to easily keep him back. Bakugou would be able to maneuver around Todoroki's attacks, and his max power explosions would definitely blow him back. A few full power explosions would take out Todoroki
I personally think bakugou takes the win in either scenario mostly because bakugou is way more althetic, faster, durable, and smarter when it comes to fights than todoroki, and y’all didn’t take to account that bakugou also has gloves with his costume that helps amplify his explosions but even without that taken to account I still think bakugou would out smart todoroki and out witty him, and could out pace him. Plus I genuinely think bakugou could beat todoroki in a matter of 10 to 15 minutes tops, and it wouldn’t be unbelievable because he’s shown that type of feet against the class b team in the joint training arc
He also would want to win more, i mean his whole thing is to win always.
@Aleksa Kurtovic I'm going to assume your a anime watcher. But He was able to plan a PERFECT plan when it was the Class 1-B vs 1-A, his skills are amazing.
or either your not taking that to account your just a fan of Todoroki :T
@Aleksa Kurtovic thats why he got schooled by juzo and tetsu
@Aleksa Kurtovic the class b team had a recommended student on there side that had pretty good strategy but bakugo still outsmarted them
You also have to consider Todoroki's ability to change the playing field quite literally. While Bakugou is faster on his feet, todoroki has been known to be an unmovable object. I'm not saying Bakugou can't win, there's just more to consider in the case of if he wins.
When there’s 16 likes but no views
So true
Shoto took a punch from 100% deku when he couldn't control his power. That punch is way stronger than the hits bakugo took in the right against the controlled 5% full cowl deku. 🤷🏽♂️
In that moment he controlled it in order to not absolutely nursed todoroki. How did he do it without knowing full cowling? No idea lmao
thats was like a 20% punch or less even aizawa said his control has improved in that moment
@@adamulla2822 to be onest it was probably less then 10% because deku was heavily fatigued
Yeah, but even though deku was using 5 %, he was still more versatile, as he had a speed boost and all... Yet when he used 100%, he's bones would break or something... I think 5 % control deku would have done waaay better than 100% no control deku against todoroki
@@lindadlamini5145 cap
If it was a battle between Support items bakugou would win
I kinda feel like before Bakugo fought Deku, he woulda been beaten. After though I feel like Bakugo is more mellow, and I feel he has better instincts, and reaction time than Todoroki (barely tho). Bakugo has more focused long ranged attacks to deal with the ice, and I feel he's far too agile to be hit by fire (not that fire burns anything in anime) I can see either winning tbh but I feel Bakugo would win more times than not..
Barely really. He really think shoto would have reacted to a 15 percent deku like bakugo? I think bakugo reaction was always better. Bakugo even had some reaction feats against almight. Shoto makes up for this with his AOE attacks. Shoto couldn’t react to stain either.
I vote Bakugo because he's more creative with his abilities BUT Shoto has more raw power that I feel he relies too much of his confidence in. I feel like Bakugo with his creativity can exhaust and outwit opponents like Shoto. So I vote Bakugo would still win 1v1 against Shoto.
Honestly, I feel like most people that were on Todoroki's side.
You handled it nicely.
But I still think Bakugou would win. He's smart, even though he has anger issues.
Let's all face it, Bakugou is more skilled, you guys will see the Class 1-B vs 1-A fight soon.
He thought of a P E R F E C T plan. They won 0 to 4. They had each others' back. Like Bakugou protected Jiro. So he clearly has the brains to think of a plan. and he has WAY more skills than from the sports festival. Like do you all remember the Deku vs Bakugou fight after the license exam? He was still able to defeat Deku.
While Todoroki... IT's more because of fangirls saying, "UgH wHaT aRe YoU sAyiNg. ToDoRokI wIlL wIn, BAkUgOu Is StUpId"
That's not true. Sure Todoroki had evolved. But he isn't a natural-born fighter.
as many other people say before, he relies too much on his quirk. Honestly, if Todoroki wasn't the son of endeavor, he wouldn't be in recommendations.
Sure he can use the one ice move slide, but that's legit nothing but becoming Todoroki on Ice.
Now I'm going to have a little rant about Todoroki and his "daddy issues''
Honestly, such it up dude, other people have had worse than you and yet they keep trying to be positive. Todoroki Is like "uGh My old man is a scum bag." and honestly, that's true, but he should've known that he shouldn't build up that anger.
Kinda like... Tohru Honda, most of her family members think she's suspicious and she'll be dangerous because of her mom, her dad died when she was young, her mom died from a car crash. She had to live in a tent, her tent basically got trampled, she has to deal with the Zodiac curse, Akito hates, her.
Sure maybe that is an unfair comparison but still, it's a bit worse, and yet Tohru keeps trying to smile.
not to mention if todoroki HEATS UP THE PLACE. He's done. Bakugou will sweat and then he wouldn't even need his gauntlets. He'd just be like:
b o o m
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
If I’m being honest, I’m not sure who’s stronger.
Every time i saw this topic brought up, i never understood how ppl ever thought todoroki could win due to bakugo blowing away his ice and fire amplifying the explosions
because anime, thats how
At the current point in the manga, toderoki doesn’t stand a chance. For anyone who doesn’t know, bakugo’s quirk just awakened and became immensely more powerful, putting himself and midoriya in a league of their own, even among pros, matched only by the likes of the current top 3 pros and the big three. Bakugo is someone who is absolutely not to be messed with at this point, even by shoto who has received his own power ups for sure, but nothing as substantial as a quirk evolution like bakugo got.
Just wait til todoroki's quirk awakening 😁
@@itsactuallytony5699 god imagine if shotos quirk awakening powered up his flames to be as strong as dabi’s and his ice equally strong
Yes shoto does realy on his quirk ti much if he could get ahold of bakugo and freeze his insides he would probably receive the win
@@janiceolivares4449 he'd actually HAVE TO GET A HOLD. It's not as easy as it sounds
They never talked at the same time, THEY CAN STILL BE THE SAME PERSON!!!
Jxran it’s called having a non toxic conversation
i am not so up to date with manga but in bases of anime i would tell bakugo will win cause of his high experience with his quirk like:
bakugo was always proud of his quirk he had it from a small age even though he didn't train he at least knows how his quirk can be used (i mean basics)
and about todoroki although he had both of his quirk from small age but he didn't agreed or made himself to use his fire quirk until he came to UA (especially during festival) which brings him in a disadvantage
and midoriya (although out of subject but) he had the quirk just a months ago (from entering to UA to sports festival) that's why his body can't handle it and also he was defeated by todoroki
as we all know experience plays vital role during a fight, so to catch up to bakugo both deku and half hot-half cold boy should do training way more than bokugo. so that's it
Shoto. Why do people not remember how Bakugo was Begging Shoto to go All Out. Even within their fight Shoto choose not to win
Bakugo wins🤦♂️
Not siding with either overall, but on the topic of fire vs explosions I think 1 definitely wins out in a way. They share a common source of usage: oxygen, well Bakugo's also uses sweat but that's not as important in this context. If they're up close, and it comes down to fire vs explosions, I feel like maybe explosions win out. The reason being that since both share the limited oxygen within their vicinity, it becomes a race. It comes down to a race of whether Todoroki's superior fire-power can start-up faster than Bakugo can ignite the same fuel source, and as far as I can tell, Bakugo's explosions will be faster.
in real life explosions are a hard counter to fire...their shockwaves remove the oxygen and fuel from the fire (same concept as blowing a candle)...dynamites are used in real life to snuff out oil well fires
We all know bakugo likes/and will put up a good fight, which also means the more his temperature rises the more he will sweat, the bigger and powerful his explosions will be, now let's not forget that bakugo also has these moves and techniques that he does when he fights, not saying that todo doesn't but (in my opinion) he relys on his quirk a lot unless he has to move around here and there, and let's also not forget that bakugo said that he also has limits to when his quirk has a weak point (like his arms and hands starting to cramp and spasm from the huge explosions he created against uraraka (rip bc he almost killed her) so pretty much what I'm saying that this fight could be a win-win, that's *if* one of them pulls a deku and comes up with a strategy and how to beat the other person (which I'm sure will happen, bc the all strategize before they fight) so change of opinions this will be a short equation and how I would see a fight between the two
Bakugo vs todoroki = *were all going to be hanging on to the edge of our seats waiting and getting hype (the moment the person we wants to win gets the upper hand) and then- the rest is up to you*
Wow this was *long* and educational(somewhat)! I love anime (mha personal favorite💜) what more can I say!
Looking at the manga and how shoto has grown into evolving his piercing shot: inferno, and how he's trained with endeavor I'd say he'd put up more of a fight especially learning some more close quarter combat techniques.
Bakugo also trained under endeavor, with his rapid fire shots and hovering jump technique, I'd give it to Bakugo on this one. He's too versatile and he's mastered his power so much by the time he's ready to graduate the dude quirk would have evolved, Bakugo trains a lot and learns new was to master his quirk. He also adapts according to his opponent. Good fight, But Bakugo would win.
Let’s take this into account
Bakugo is the fastest among the 3
Faster than Endeavor even and Bakugo has shown his superior speed against Shoto so many times
When they fought those thugs after getting their license Bakugo finished his opponents before Shoto even STARTED fighting his and that’s even with Bakugo taking like 8 of them while Shoto was against 1
At this point Bakugo is one of the fastest people in the verse probably only behind Prime All Might and Hawks
He can blitz Shoto and Howitzer Impact him before he even realizes it
short answer: bakugo wins; long answer: bakugo wins
bakugo
You guys went at it a little through the second half of the video lol but I could tell you were having fun but I call Bakugou on this fight to win. Hopefully you do more Vs. battles.
If shoto used enough of his ice, he would be able to freeze bakugou so much, and make him loose his sweat or even freeze :() , and so then bakugou wouldn’t be able to use his quirk to get out of his ice ( cuz his explosions come from his sweat ). At that point Todoroki would need to get closer some how and actually freeze his arms first or something, and then the other, and then the whole rest of bakugou. So there, bakugou wouldn’t be able to escape. I don’t think I was very clear but oh well 😅
The thing you’re forgetting is bakugo handled his ice side. What would be a new challenge is against the left side
What about his sweat talks if he can managed to pull that bitch.
I agree in the u.s.j fight shoto was able to freeze the insides of the nomu,so if he did that to bakugo he would disable him and cause him the win
Shoot didn’t melt tetsu tetsu
Isaiah Burley Exactly, he couldn't beat testu testu and they want to tell me that Todoroki would win😂😂
Bakayaro Konoyaro he almost did and bakugo definitely couldn’t handle that heat
@@bakayarokonoyaro8375 no.He was about to melt tetsu tetsu but the guy with a quirk called softening was in his way so todoroki should hvae won
IM α GENIUS Y33T Yeah he was about to...Bakugo wouldn't give him that chance
You guys realize that Bakugo is literally sweating explosives, right? Explosives that can be blown up by extreme heat? Bakugo is a walking bomb, and all Todoroki needs to do is light the fuse, and them BOOM. Bye bye, Kacchan.
While Todoroki is overall stronger, the fight can go either way. Bakugo is a way better fighter and doesn’t rely on his quirk too much.
Until todoroki is more innovative and mobile with his quirk he loses. The minute he does become like that then the only way for bakugou to win is for him to have a quirk evolution and shoot explosions from his feet
Edit: also keep in mind bakugou is a crazy fast learner. In his fight with tokoyami he immediately figured out his weakness. In the first with nine he saw him use his 2 quirks on him once. Immediately figured out how to get around him and nearly got a good attack on him. The only reason he didn't is because he got suprised by another quirk noone has seen. Imagine what he could do knowing todorokis quirk already
Yeah man before the movie i thought they were on the same lvl with bakugo maybe a bit ahead but after seeing the second movie i realise that deku and bakugo have surpassed shoto on a different lvl
That would be HYPE
You see I think it will always be a close fight between them in any iteration created because that’s what the characters are designed for. It doesn’t matter the physics or feats we see In the manga and show. Some are inconsistent and false. It doesn’t matter how we speculate who wins it’s about horikoshi deciding who wins to better the plot.
Bakugo CAN add a lil distance but he has to push himself harder for those bigger blast that's why his fighting style is close combat
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Are u guys forgetting how durable bakugo is? He was tanking hits from allmight himself not or that but he was going toe toe with him
I'm surprised their Endeavor Agency arc gains weren't brought up at all. They both learned how to focus their powers at a point, which enhanced their speed and power, especially the former. Todoroki in particular learned the basics of Flashfire Fist by mastering that, so now he has close range attack options. I think it isn't nearly as straightfoward as some people are assuming it would be.
I really don’t think shoto with ever be a match against bakugo in close quarters. Shoto definitely better at range
@@roguerex292 I agree, but it's still something to consider since before it probably would have been a complete wash in Bakugo's favour
Bakugo would still win hands down
Am actually looking forward to the next sports tournament 😁
That's going to be next lvl sh*t
Bbbbbrruuhhhhh as soon as I saw 45+ I’m keen to dive in 💪🏻 more long videos please, love your guys content xo
Strength is not necessary,official stat book or something says that's bakugo and dekus technique and strat and intelligence are far better than todoroki.
If you're talking about the Ultra Analysis Book, Bakugo's an A rank in Power and Speed and A+ in technique, while Shoto's an S in Power, an A in Speed and a B- in technique. Intelligence doesn't matter as much imo since they've both proven to be plenty perceptive in a fight situation anyway.
Also, those stats came before the Endeavor Agency arc where both of them leveled up.
@@thanatos2684 i disagree...intelligence matters alot in a fight...in 1A v 1B the sole reason shoto tied was because he was stupid to fight tetsutetsu in a 1v1 and start with ice rather than fire....his team was superior to juzos in every way and his performance was abismal considering he is considered one of the best in class
@@souvikbose8583 that's a gross oversimplification of things.
1. Shoto starting with ice has nothing to do with intelligence, it's down to the muscle memory he's developed from neglecting his fire powers his entire life. It's no different to how Deku just subconsciously always went for punches when kicks were an obvious alternative, and we know how smart and perceptive he is. He's already taken steps towards shaking that habit, like when he saved his brother from Ending using fire first and foremost and only used his ice for travel and detaining him.
2. Juzo's team had specific counters to Shoto's strongest hitters (destabilizing footpaths for Tenya and melting Shoto's ice, Tetsutetsu being resistant to Shoto's Quirk), plus Tetsutetsu forced Shoto into a 1v1 situation to begin with. No one knew he was temperature resistant until he started no-selling Shoto's attacks.
Besides if we're going by book stat intelligence then Endeavor's a 4/6 as well which puts him below Bakugo and Deku, and yet we've seen his intelligence and perception first-hand. Just as we saw Shoto's battle smarts when he froze Tenya's boosters to stop his movements during the Sports Festival, and defeated a team of 6 during the Provisional Licence arc by using the terrain to his advantage. Bakugo's primary advantage here is his technique due to his Quirk mastery, while Shoto still reliant on the raw strength of his own and pretty much had to learn his fire quirk off from scratch.
We don’t need a stat book to see that. Bakugi has always been smarter, faster and durable. He is top 3 smarters one his class and call a genius and take repeated blows from all might. And do I even have to argue his speed. The only thing shoto gots on him is raw power
@@thanatos2684 1) yeah i would buy that id shoto literally didn't start fight with stain using fire and even if you ignore it, why did he not retreat against tetsutetsu? he was a hard counter to pony, juzo and the spinning guy because of his fire and his mobility is beyond tetsutetsu. getting into a fist fight with the one dude who counters you was stupid...btw iirc he was using his flames to travel after he burned off ending's attack...and no one is saying he is not perseptive...just that in that instance his reasoning was bad...a B in any category is not bad especially when S is exceptional and A is great...in a head to head comparison it means its low as compared to A.
2) Irrelevant , every team had some way to defeat the heavy hitters of the other team...it basically came down to how you use quirk and strategize around your opponent ...momo literally counters everyone , but she was taken down by a chick who can make her hands big...and yes, i agree tetsutetsu kinda counters todoroki , there is no whay in hell juzo counters anyone...juzo has no wayto stop fire and ida's respiro turbo allows him to run on softened ground, and ofcourse tetsutetsu is gonna force him to fight ...he hard counters him...it is up to todoroki to make a tactical retreat and he had plenty of opportunity...first tetsu broke his ice wall and yet todoroki continued to use ice to try and stop him, then todoroki used a fire wall and tetsutetsu broke out of that too and said he is super hot...meanwhile todoroki told soji to go after pony, when he should have used his speed advantage to chase down pony and gain distance from tetsutetsu ...bakugou even comments that even after watching that his attacks are not workingh he continues to use the same attack...this is in direct contradiction to bakugou vs kirishima where kirishima was also a hard counter to explosion, and bakugou worked around that by deducing kirishima's limitations...todoroki didn't do anything like that...he had an enormous speed advantage, which he wasted, instead chose to fight in close quarters where he is at a disadvantage and then tried to brute force his way to victory.
3)like i already said B in intelligence is not bad...and no one is saying it makes him stupid...it makes him less intelligent in comparison to say someone like hawks...as for shoto's battle smarts against ida, yeah at that point in the manga their (todoroki, bakugou and izuku) stats in intelligence was equal at B, unlike now where bakugou and izuku upgraded to A...also in the provisional license arc, he took down nameless fodders offscreen...the anime gave us a filler fight...so doesn't really prove intelligence from that feat.
and i still disgree i feel intelligence is overlooked in fights...i am not saying shoto is stupid...i am saying bakugou's higher intelligence is also an overlooked advantage in fights...if you don't agree then lets agree to disagree.
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33:55 yet Bakugo is good a hand to hand combat so this doesn’t apply to him
I don't know why, but I always think that Todoroki should learn to use his ice more. Hear me out, Bakugou says in the mangá that he takes time to heat up in the winter. If Todoroki could influence a large space and shoot ice without needing to be grounded, that's it for Bakugo. Ok, Shoto is learning to use his fire with Endeavor, but... like, and Ice user could teach him some things too if you think about it.
People keep saying that the heat will only make Bakugo sweat more like they’ve forgotten that fire could burn his hands off to the point it would probably hurt him to even create any explosions or do any damage
If the fire touches him directly.
@@zantosd.dreamer981 or if it gets to close, fire can still be hot and burn you from a distance if your in it's range, it doesn't necessarily have to touch you
You guys realize that Bakugo is literally sweating explosives, right? Explosives that can be blown up by extreme heat? Bakugo is a walking bomb, and all Todoroki needs to do is light the fuse, and them BOOM. Bye bye, Kacchan.
@@NoahExists look at his gauntlets. they use an external igniter. bakugou doesn't ignite the sweat (i dont think), and even if he does he's gotta emit some sort of spark from his hands. todoroki could theoretically blow up bakugouand if not that's a major plothole.
KingNoah that’s literally how it works bud. It’s in one of the movies.
I feel like a lot of this depends on circumstance. While todoroki has his range advantage and can control their playing field, Bakugou is a lot smarter than people give him credit for, and he is less reliant on his quirk to do everything, using it more as a tool, than a part of himself. While both use their quirks excessively, this would more boil down to quick thinking and a battle against the clock. If todoroki could outlast, he would come out on top, but if he even slips of the slightest, Bakugou would exploit the opening and easily finish the fight. It's less about what support items they have, and more about who has the strength to control the playing field. So I don't think there is an undisputed winner to this, both have advantages and strengths, so that boils it down to how fast they can take control.
In my opinion in both situations bakugou would beat the brakes out of todoroki for one reason and one reason only bakugou is more popular
they are analyzing their weapons, armour, and skills, to find out who will win a HERO BATTLE
death battle.
Shoto ”changing the terrain” is just giant glaciers, bakugo CAN fly, what shoto gonna do stand inside the ice canyon, plus he can't shoot ice In the air, howitzer impact blows the fire away, bakugo then kills shoto. GG
Nope.Shoto's fire stops the Howitzer Impact.
Go ask Horikoshi.
@@maestrulgamer9695 Nah, the creators saying shit doesnt matter. We are people of feats. If a tornado runs into flames it will suck it up and make it twirl in a circle. Bakugo's spinning movement would make the fire go around his body rather than touching him head on.
@@6785yy IT WOULD BOOST EXPLOSIONS
@@maestrulgamer9695 it just does not make sense that fire can stop the concussive force of Howitzer
Unlike the clearly popular opinion, I think Todoroki would win. For starters, there's no risk (at least there's only a slim chance) of Todoroki getting frostbite or burns because now he uses both sides, he's decently mobile, can handle most ranges pretty well, and given in this scenario it's not closed off, Todoroki could enclose Bakugou in thicker ice than the sports festival, making it harder for Bakugou to locate Todoroki and break out of the ice. Todoroki could also use the fire to give Bakugou some pretty nasty burns.
Also, there is a chance Todoroki could use enough fire to evaporate the sweat or make Bakugou sweat too much, or (probably not but may as well point it out) freeze the sweat OR freeze Bakugou's palms so he has to waste sweat, time and energy to free his hands by using explosions (or depending on the environment, smash the ice). Todoroki could possibly stop Bakugou from being as mobile by using the ice as well so Bakugou doesn't sweat as much.
These are just a few reasons on why I think Todoroki would win in a fight with his new character development. However, I do think it wouldn't be an easy fight, it would come very close (like Bakugou and Deku's rematch).
P.S Bakugou stans please don't attack me, I've already been attacked multiple times for just having a different opinion on Bakugou that's not "OMG he's the best character and I love him" like please lemme trust Mr. Daddy Issues-
I think bakugou would win but it would be a close match almost a tie I think this because bakugou sweats but todorokis flames are so hot It would burn it but if bakugou can stay a certain distance then the sweat won't burn sweat would just keep coming but then theres todoroki if he goes all out he could use both ice and fire yet bakugous flames are probably stronger if bakugou can get big hits before todoroki uses his ice oh and if we remember when bakugou was training we saw a huge flam coming from him so I don't think range would be a problem that is why bakugou would win
Sorry if my writing is bad
Shotos fire is useless defensively against Bakugo, if he ingulfs the air around him then Bakugo can ignite it at will causing a big explosion around Shoto. While Shoto is resistant to fire he's not immune to the physical force of an explosion, it'd be like 100 flashbangs going off around you at once while all of the air is knocked out of your lungs. He's done after one or two times of that happening
I want todoroki to win not because of his quirk but because bakugou would learn a lesson which is important for him
@Cleanest Best Pleasure oh my God I completely forgot about Deku sorry this made me want to delete my comment
I feel like bakugo has learned a lesson and we've seen recently he does not actually respect deku and shoto as proper rivals rather than being an ass
I think if bakugo and shoto fought bakugo would win but he'd be respectful to shoto afterwards
@@thepatbackexperience4573 yeah I agree but I think he only thinks of Deku as a powerful rival but I dont think that's good I want bakugou to know that there are future heroes that are almost as strong as Deku with 7 quirks. Ofcourse there are other schools that have powerful students So Bakugou only considering deku as a true rival but not characters like Todoroki
Is just stupit
@@1moneyking Being someone's rival is about more than just being strong. Surely he's heard about the big three of UA, but he doesn't see them as rivals.
Destructive power: bakugou
Speed:easily bakugou
Technique: Bakugou
Intelligence:bakugou (battls wise this is a no brainer and he outplaced him on the final if you want to argue grades)
Better quirk: Todoroki
Bakugou easily claps
It would all depend on how much they've grown with their mobility, speed, endurance, stamina, and their quirk drawbacks. While bakugo would most likely have to stay in the air because Todoroki had the advantage with the terrain his mobility in the air is amazing, but Todoroki can balance out his tempatures and we haven't seen how fast his reaction times are in the air especially with the loss of anything to use as leverage. While Todoroki could use ice, think about Bakugo would just use it as something to get better footing even if it is slippery and continue attacking. Hir fire is a different story, but it would make bakugo sweat more, and he can take attacks so depending on the heat he may be able to take it. So, without support items? either really, with? Bakugo, he can throw him off guard and most likely take advantage and stun him someway with explosions to the point there's not permanent damage but there's still enough to stop him comepletely.
I think Midoriya, Bakugo, and Todoroki are all equal right now
I am going to just say i think shoto would win saying he can freeze the inside of his opponents shown in the usj fight.freezing bakugos inside makeing him unable to move or use his quirk,but he can only do this if he can catch him.but all in all i think shoto would win.
nah bakugo got this bro
The biggest move we have seen todoroki do is his final super move against 100% deku with one arm. While bakugos biggest move without any support was a blast that flew all might (who was under restraint but still stronger than we have ever seen deku) into the air for over 10-15 seconds. His blasts that damaged his nerves were able to cause enough damage to hold back all might for a while. I’d say bakugo has done more but todoroki still has more potential
bakugo has ap shot though, he’s got close combat and ranged covered easily
I'm not trying to be toxic or anything but the other guy had brain dead arguments, LOGICALLY speaking Todoroki, especially at this point in the manga, hard counters Bakugo without support items
Yeah no sorry mate. Bakugo could beat him. I’m not saying todoroki couldn’t but I’d saying more often then not bakugo would win. If your talking about logic bakugo is technically as fire resistant as todoroki. It’s a factual that bakugo is physically stronger and more durable, he has better speed agility, reaction time, attack styles, ect. Must I go on
Bakugo is better in Ever way expect fire power. He’s faster, smarter and more durable. If it’s not a clash of power bakugo stomps
It won't be easy but Bakugo would win
In terms of raw power shoto does have him beat but Bakugo is more intelligent skilled and versatile with his quirk. Bakugo has better mobility and agility which will catch shoto off guard. Also shoto still isn't skilled enough with his flames which bakugo could use to generate more sweat. Also bakugo has the potential to make flames too due to his quirk so shoto wouldn't have the edge.
Shoto could go and try to use his max ice output and freeze bakugo nearly to death but bakugo already knows this and wouldn't fall for it. Plus shoto could only use that max ice output only a few times since it would lower his body temp too much.
As we've seen before in MHA skill almost always beat raw power so I see bakugo winning
Destructive power: bakugou
Speed:easily bakugou
Technique: Bakugou
Intelligence:bakugou (battls wise this is a no brainer and he outplaced him on the final if you want to argue grades)
Better quirk: Todoroki
Bakugou easily claps
@@DattoFlicks420 I agree with you but with that being said I really want the book and show to start portraying shoto at the same level as and a proper rivalry to deku and bakugo
I want his beef with deku and bakugo to be given just a much importance as deku and bakugo'a rivalry
The 3 way feud they had at the start of the anime is what really got me into it and Im scared they're leaving shoto behind
Edit: In terms of destructive power Im gonna give it to shoto
He can giant walls of ice big enough to take up half a stadium with ease and he can make huge walls of fire. Also he will also be able to do everything endeavor can (such as blow up high skyscrapers create blue flames, hell spider etc.) And to an even greater extend bc he'll never have to worry about over heating. I think right now todoroki is slightly above bakugo in destructive power but as they get older and shoto eventually learns all of endeavors moves plus as his ice gets stronger the gap between him and bakugo in terms of DP will be large
@@thepatbackexperience4573 it aint a 3 way feud though.
@@zantosd.dreamer981 They used to present it that way though, from like season 1 and especially the sports festival arc
Now the focus is mainly on bakugo vs deku which I understand but I dont like
Bakugo would get clapped if Shoto detonated all of his sweat using his flames, which would leave him sweat-less and defenseless, not to mention very dead, because Bakugo's not immune to his own explosions the same way Shoto is immune to his flames.
The Strength of Todoroki's quirk is supposed to give him the potential to rival Allmight or at least be better than Endeavor which is saying a lot. The duality of his quirk is much more versatile or if not at least deals more damage than Bakugo. Range and terrain manipulation as they said gives him the edge. Imo
It gives him the edge but not against bakugo lol. Bakugo can destroy todorokis ice easily. Ice/cold is bakugos weakness remember during the sports festival bakugo broke thru all of todorokis ice effortlessly...that says alot. And let me remind u of something todorokis quirk will make him stronger than endeavours but bakugo and deku have always been aiming to surpass all might. And they will end of series. Even with tht duality hes still not tht versatile for example all he does is spam his fire and ice. Now bakugo uses his quirk to fly to create light tht blinds his opponents. He gets more versatile and creative
i wouldn't be surprised if shoto won, but at the same time i very much doubt that bakugou would go down with out causing alot of damage to shoto.
Where's your facts? You probably dont even really the manga. Destructive power: bakugou
Speed:easily bakugou
Technique: Bakugou
Intelligence:bakugou (battls wise this is a no brainer and he outplaced him on the final if you want to argue grades)
Better quirk: Todoroki
Bakugou easily claps
@@DattoFlicks420 why do u keep on telling the same points, if you look at todorokis stats in the manga he has high stats in all around aspects, they both have high stats bakugou would not easily clap shoto, but the chances that both of them will win in a situation is not low so it's not that easy to say that bakugou would easily win
@@Salchicha69 because that data book is outdated. It came out before the internship. Shoto dosent have the feats to match up with his stats. I keep repeating the same thing because their was more than one person baking shoto. Now ill also repost what I just said because I don't feel like retyping it.
Bakugou provided a better power feat in that same foght with all might with his full power explosion. Todoroki had an advantage because his attack was a ranged based attack while deku's was a meele based. Deku was the one to break through cementos while todoroki capitilized. Shoto was also blasted back by dekus attack and todorokis flames never reached deku. He just got blown back out of the arena which we see by deku not having any burn marks by the end of that fight.
For "proof" bakugou vs ending was far faster than anything shoto has shown and it happened to be with a single condensed explosion. Bakugou was able to save Natsuo before todoroki even had the time to move. And with it being his brother that was in danger shoto dosent have any bigger reason to rush into action.
For reaction time you can use bakugou avoiding every member of the league apart from dabi and kurogiri during the fight with all might or you can use his fight against full cowling deku which happens to both be far faster then the one kick from season two that he barley managed to dodge from Iida while he is later counter feated by his fight against class 1b where testsu completely blitzed him.
Another thing from bakugou for speed was when he blasted off towards Kirishima Iida and Deku which also happens to be far faster than anything shoto has shown.
And for another power feat we have a statement from all might that says that he was the strongest in the class. That's not much of a feat but any attack that would make all might feel something is so much more than competing with wind pressure, also considering todoroki only remained in the ring do to his ice and the blow being cushioned that doesn't make for a good power feat.
Rebuttal to the 7:26 comment. It isn’t that it’s inconsistent it’s that the more he sweats the more power range and damage his explosions cause.
Todoroki should win but bakugo will win because PLOT ARMOUR!
what are you talking about bakugo blitses todaroki
He's agile.. not that fast.
@Kakashi Hatake Because... bakugo has... What?
@Kakashi Hatake and Todoroki can do that😂
@Kakashi Hatake plus ice 🧊
THanks for making more MHA videos, keep it up
Im voting for Shoto! Of course i havent watches it yet, it came out like 2 minutes ago and its a 45 minute video lol.
ScourgeAshfur95 Bakugo is clapping Todoroki
Yeet!
Kirishima Gang Nah, Bakugo is too fast for him, I don't see Todoroki keeping up with 8% deku, which Bakugo was capable of.
why people not giving shoto a chance?
@@nosediger2111 Because we've seen what Shoto can do
He isn't as skilled, mobile, and still uses his quirk in a black and white way
If he wants to compete with deku and bakugo he has to get out of his comfort zone and be creative
Todoroki would win
Todoroki's ice would cooldown bakugou and limit his explosions
Also in the 1st mha academia movie when todoroki, bakugou and kirishima where fighting villians the guy had bakugou sweat in his hand and todoroki used his fire side and they explosion blew up do if todoroki lands a fire movebits game over for bakugou.
Bakugo is blast resistant idiot. He took his own final move in the festival arch (according to Newton’s law the recoil was as strong as his blast) so essentially he took the same amount of power that todoroki did and got up instantly and was ready to fight again while todoroki passed out. Bakugo could ap shot and todoroki is dead lol. Also his ice hasn’t proven to limit his explosions. After all bakugo easily countered todorokis special move with ice.
@@oggamer197 bakugo isnt blast resistant but ok
@@yahananok8153 any proof of this?
Honestly I feel like bakugo would win because Todoroki relies to much on his power and since bakugo is a close-up fighter he had to learn hand to hand combat...and Shoto probably never really got to focus on that since his father only really wanted him to focus on his quirk and shoto would only be able to counter bakugo but not so much as it only takes about 15 minutes until he starts to get frostbite on his arm.Yes, shoto has his fire but he dosen't really has that much control over it, and his hero suit was only made for his ice quirk since he only relied on that.....that's my theory...
How the hell is bakugou a close up fighter.
Destructive power: bakugou
Speed:easily bakugou
Technique: Bakugou
Intelligence:bakugou (battls wise this is a no brainer and he outplaced him on the final if you want to argue grades)
Better quirk: Todoroki
Bakugou easily claps
@@DattoFlicks420 If you haven't noticed, in all of his fights he is very close to his opponent and with a quirk like his it would be smart to be close because he could do more damage and he has smarts in close combat so that's one if the reasons he is close....you could go through all of his fights if you but he usually jumps with a right hook at them...(Thanks Izuku for the info :D )
He uses his fire much more, he doesn't have to rely on control of his fire to melt his ice
You guys realize that Todoroki can literally just blow up Bakugo's sweat with his flames? The man is literally sweating nitro-glycerin; he's essentially a bomb with legs. One spark of flame later, and kaboom. Kacchan goes off like a 4th of july firework.
@@zusfrankenstein8561 you know he only sweats nitroglician with his palms right?
Tbh I think Bak would win because last time he broke his ice and shoto is more of a defense fighter so I doubt he would win even if he use his fire that's just my opinion
Bakago would win 🙂
The reason shoto will lose is because bakaugo is a mobile and flashy and deadly stain bakugo wouldn’t destroy shoto the stain did but he be pressure heavily by bakaugo vs bakaugo already knows how shoto moves and probably built a counter to him knowing that if shoto goes full heat he’s done or keeps going heat up even the cold can’t help and with those flashes of flames bakugo would have to fly back back also fly back in just as fast
Fire=Heat and then heat makes people sweat. Bakugo’s quirk depends on how much he sweats meaning that he would have more firepower
your wrong
Nitrogliceryn if i spell wrong. can be activated automaticaly with fire so bakugo might blow himself up 😂
@@nosediger2111 Blowing himself up doesn't affect him except launch him forward
Nah...he would sweat but shoto’s Fire would just ignite him like we saw in that movie when Shoto was fighting the villain. Even shoto’s heat has the potential to ignite bakugo.
@@2gatsuuga your right
It would either end very quickly with Bakugou as the victor or it would be a long drawn out fight which would result in Todoroki winning with his version of the prominence burn