I've been working with acrylics for 18 years and want to try oils. Your channel is the best i've looked at for information. Thanks for posting these videos, they've been a fantastic source. Keep them coming!!!
trevor bradley I just switched to oil mid January, (15 years acrylic) I will never touch acrylic again! I've been kicking myself every day now, for not switching sooner. it's much more enjoyable, I also feel like I have more expression and room to grow. if you go the simple route, there is only one extra step from acrylic. my setup: linseed oil, pure turpentine (from a place in Georgia), oil colors, and brushes I used to use for acrylic. you don't need to get all fancy with a ton of specialized mediums and stuff. the only advice out side of that is, don't go cheap on paint, and don't taint your perception of oil paint by using water mixable (in case you don't like it). I hope that helps! and feel free to hit me up if you have questions from the acrylic perspective :)
Thanks dreanki for the encouragement. I am looking forward to giving them a go. I have all my supplies picked up and about ready to pick my first piece to paint. I have noticing that over the last few years my paintings are becoming too tight with acrylics and I am hoping that oils will help me loosen up.
Best of luck to you and I hope you really have fun with the oils! The key to painting in a looser style isn't so much in which paint you use as it is in how you approach it. Try to see everything as simplified shapes. Use the biggest brush you can for as long as you can...that will help you fight the urge to start getting too detailed.
trevor bradley lol, your having the opposite problem I had! I was trying to get more detailed, and found I couldn't get what I wanted from acrylic. however, I do have to say, wherever your style oil has the flexibility to do it. :) I hope you enjoy it! p.S. let me know how you like it, I'm curious to see how another acrylic artist reacts to oil :)
The difference using Chromatic black, and ivory black on my bird painting has helped tremendously where the black contrast for the black eye on a black mask, made it so much easier to get the eye to stand out. THank you for this knowledge!!
You broke 1000 subscribers! Congratulations! So proud to have been one of your subscribers when you were in the single digits. I look forward to seeing this channel grow indefinitely. Keep up the great work!
Thanks!! Yes, I am excited about it! I think it's awesome that you were one of the early ones and it means so much that I am able to pass on my love of art to others. :)
I bought chromatic black yesterday because you referenced a liking for it in another one of your videos. Originally I didn’t know why I wanted it lol, but now I do. Again, another great informative video. I sound like a demented broken record... great video great video but honestly, every video you do is so on point! 😃👍🏻👏🏻
Thanks, it’s very intimidating using blacks and this video is very useful to get confidence to work with them, really I appreciate your sharing your ample knowledge…. I feel found was a blessing to found your videos…. Say a lot of your personality helping other people Task’s a lot…..
I just discovered chromatic black a few weeks back and it has become a favorite of mine. Nice timing to discover this clip :). I started to mix my own CB but ended up buying some premix for convenience
I just had a bad experience with Gamblin Mars black. I chose it because it was supposed to be the blackest black and would dry with a matte finish. I used it straight from the tube to represent a large area of black velvet in my painting. The problem was when it dried it had a strange sheen to it, kind of iridescent, and looked like I had used a Sharpie pen. You ever used a Sharpie pen and noticed that weird color sheen it has to it? Just like that. Weirdest thing. I waited for it to dry completely, and then covered it with a layer of Ivory Black. Just a warning to others, remember that it has a sheen if used straight from the tube.
Thanks. Working on a Rembrandt-like portrait with a flat or matte black background. Having trouble getting a uniform "abyss" type finish. I suspect it is the medium I am using. It is distracting.
Again very nice video! I heard somewhere over youtube that George Inness glazed with ivory black, I think who commented on this was Dennis Sheehan. Chromatic Black is a very useful mixture!
Thanks for the compliment! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I wouldn't be surprised if Inness used Ivory Black. The color was very common until the Impressionists.
hello sir nice video very informative its no wonder why zorn use ivory black for mixtures because it is weaker tinting strenght compared to mars and lamp black
It would seem that chromatic blacks preserve the saturation (brightness of a color) of the colors they tint compared to more optic blacks. The dirty look means that it loses saturation.
I'm surprised you found chromatic black to be nearly neutral - I just tested it, along with 4 other blacks (each mixed with titanium, 2 different lead whites, cad yellow light, and cad red medium). What I found was that the chromatic was by far the bluest in all mixtures, although in the red the differences among them were subtle. With titanium, it was really significantly more blue than the others, and with the yellow, it made the cleanest and most chromatic green by far.
Interesting! I guess i was comparing it to the Ivory Black i have which is generally much cooler. It can also depend on lighting and other factors. The best thing to do is figure out what mixes your actual paints that you use make and how they work for you, so your testing was a great idea! Thanks for watching! :)
Hello! This is Kanchana from NOVA. I enjoy all your tips and information on all things art related. I am an oil painter now. You spoke about the three blacks. Would like to know about bone black and lamp black. Thank you
Bone Black is the same as Ivory Black. It isn't really made form ivory anymore of course, but was a long time ago. Lamp Black tends to be very dense and cool in tone. It dries very slowly. Thanks for watching!
Brother Jason, here I am again to give you mad props & say thx!!! So so so helpful... I have a question... would the mixtures of burnt umber & ultramarine blue give me a transparent chromatic black? I’ve def done the crimson (or magenta) phthalo Green (or viridian) mix, but that gives a perdy paynes gray. I have no doubt you’re gonna know EXACTLY what I’m talkin about, & thanks in advance fer yer answer, my friend!!! Wayne in VA
Thanks so much for the nice comment! Yes, you will get a more transparent black with mixing Ultramarine and Burnt Umber although I actually prefer Burnt Sienna for this mixture. It's a better compliment to the Ultramarine and makes a cleaner color. :) Thanks for watching!
I just found that M Graham has a black called “Chroma Black” made from PB29 and PBr7. I tried both and think the M Graham’s is slightly warmer. Both are good.
Nice vídeo Walcott, as always. My main concern with the Cromatic Black is the transparency. Can you easily get full coverage on a white Canvas? Im coming from acrylics and their blacks were very transparent to the point that only carbon Black would work (not even Ivory Black covered well). Because of that, Im leaning towards Ivory, since I dont want the fast drying quality oh the Mars Black. Thanks a lot
Chromatic Black is made from two fairly transparent pigments so it may not have the opacity you want. Sounds like Ivory Black might work better for you. Thanks for the nice comment and for watching! :)
Any difference between Ivory black and jet black? The only thing i found on the W&N page was that jet black had a higher tinting strength, i am practicing the Zorn palette using gouache and unintentionally bought jet black instead of ivory, they are both on the cooler side but i am cheating a bit by adding ultramarine blue.
Thanks for watching! I have never seen "Jet Black" as an oil color...as you said it seems to be only in gouache. Jet Black is "Aniline Black" meaning it is a dye based pigment. That means it will stain more than Ivory Black and is probably more transparent. Hope that helps!
Which black has less light reflection. I'm trying to avoid seeing brush work. I use lamp black and there is a lot of glar, depending on where your standing in front of painting. I hope I made sense. Thank you
To be honest I'm not sure. I think maybe Mars Black might be more matte since it's an earth iron oxide color. You can also thin your paint with some solvent or a medium so it smooths out more and doesn't leave heavy brushstrokes. Another thing you can always do is put a matte varnish on your paintings which will reduce the gloss. Gamblin makes a matte version of their Gamvar. Thanks for watching!
Great video, as usual! :D Just one question, I was taught to use ultramarine blue and burnt umber to mix chromatic blacks, how would this black differ from the ones you mention?
Thanks for the nice comment and for watching! Gamblin's Chromatic Black is a mixture of Phthalo Green and Quinacridone Magenta. It's the same idea as your mixture of Ultramarine and Burnt Umber (which is also wonderful!)... You are using dark compliments to create a near-black. Ivory and Lamp Black are actual black pigments which tend to look a bit dirty in mixtures...they are better for specific uses. :)
I've been experimenting with the Zorn pallet. Which black would be best? Also would Payne's grey be cheating. I thought it'd be easier to get blues with it.
Thanks for watching! I would say use either Ivory Black or Chromatic Black (Gamblin). There's no such thing as "cheating". :) If you want to use Payne's Gray, use it! Each artist should find whatever palette works best for them. Enjoy!
Thanks for watching! Yes there is a pigment called "Pyrrol Scarlet" it's pigment index is PR255. It's pretty close to Cadmium Red light in hue but will not have the same opacity. It will typically be less expensive. Winsor & Newton calls their version in oils Scarlet Lake...but always check the PI number to be certain.
I just switched to oil paint in January, and I decided to go with all blue ridge oil colors. I see that you use some of his stuff too. I don't have any reference point for quality, and I'm wondering how you would rate blue ridge. do you find that they have a high quality paint? I feel like they are, but that might be because I used to use acrylic.
Thanks for the comment! Yes, Blue RIdge Oils are very good...top of the line brand! Don't feel you need to stick to any one brand though. You can if you want to, but most artists (including me) have certain colors they like from different paint brands. So the next time you need to buy a new tube, feel free to test out some other brands. You might enjoy watching my "Which Oil Paints Should You Buy" video. :)
is the chromatic black somewhat transparent? and are both thalo green and quinac rose transparent colors? and is it safe to assume that making my own black with thalo green and quinac rose would be basically the same as the chromatic black in the tube? thanks
Yes, Chromatic Black is a mixture of those two colors. They are both transparent so the black will be as well. You can certainly mix your own, but the pre-made paint is more convenient. Thanks for watching!
Hello, I have a tube of Neutral Color from Old Holland. Bought it for experimenting but I would like to know more about it. Is there anything you can tell me about it?
Thanks for watching! I have never used that color, but typically neutral tints are just that...a gray that's neither warm nor cool that you can use to create neutral mixes of colors from brighter ones. I would encourage you to experiment with it and see if you like it! :)
Nice information, I'm running low on black ivory black I think I have. I'm going to get some mars black becouse I would not need to use as much from the look of this video. Think I'll try an artist grade one of a manufacturer I have not used before, do you recommend any? I use winser and newton and some daler-rowney georgian.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you found the video useful. I would recommend trying Gamblin oil paints. Gamblin is an artist quality paint that is really nice and priced well. Enjoy!
There is one other company that makes a chromatic black that I know of: M. Graham makes one, but theirs consists of pigments B 29 & Br 7(ultramarine + Burnt Umber). ; ) Its convenient for me because I dont have to mix a black every time I paint...
Thanks for watching and for the information about the M. Graham black! I will have to check that out. M. Graham remains one of the few brands I have never tried.
Really, Im suprised,you really should try a few colors they are excellent, made with walnut oil. The thing I really love about them is they dont "seperate" like most other brands that manufacture their paint with linseed or safflower oil!
Thanks for the comment! Lamp Black is more transparent and more often used in watercolors although a few companies make it in oil. Lamp Black would probably be closest to Ivory Black since it is also a carbon based black.
Walcott Fine Art I was under the impression that Lamp Black and Carbon Black are the same thing-made from smoke carbons (soot)? These are the blackest black we have-so I hear-and they do seem to be that way for me, where as the Ivory Black is also carbon based but made from charred animal bones-which used to be solely from Ivory tusks. In oils I think the Ivory Black is the most transparent one is it not and is used more for mixing-like zinc white-when one wishes color chroma strength to be more prominent? Is Lamp Black favored in WC because it can be made more transparent because of the very fine pigment or is it favored because it IS transparent?
Lamp Black is most often used in watercolors because unlike Mars or Ivory it doesn't granulate. In oils it worst of the three because of very long drying time.
Lamp black is pure carbon. Ivory is carbon plus various calcium compounds (after all these are calcined bones). Pure carbon doesn't aid oxidation of oil at all. And since oil paint dries by oxidation, lamp is bound to be the slowest drier. Here is table of drying times of most of Williamsburg paints: www.justpaint.org/weighing-in-on-the-drying-of-oils/
Thanks for the comment! Flake White is slightly warmer than Titanium so it would push the mixtures more toward neutral and away from the cool grays. Flake White also has a lower tinting strength so it would take less black to get the same shade.
With black you are losing so much chroma when it's mixed with colors that I'm not sure it makes that much difference...very slight if any. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 thanks! I'm very scared of using black oil paint, im mixing burnt umber and ultramarine or something similar, don't now when I will overcome fear and start using black color
Those are basically two names for the same pigment. Ivory Black tends to be a bit cool in oil painting, but is a fine color to use. It does not contain Ivory anymore in case you were worried. :) Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching Larry! Yes, the Chromatic Black will make green when mixed with a yellow. Greens made with black and yellow are very natural looking and great for landscapes. :)
gamblins chromatic black(which i love) is actually a mix of phthalo emerald and quinacridone red, as they do not make quinacridone rose. other than that great video.
Bob Ross used a “Midnight” Black. It is a Chromatic Black except what he used back then was the fugitive R83 Alizarin Crimson and G7. He does however, have an Ivory Black in his soft paints for florals and animals. Using the R83 in a chromatic black should not be an issue since the issue with it was that it goes dark over time and this is a “black” any way.
That is very unusual! The only thing I can think of that would account for that is that some yellow is getting into your mixes. Ivory and Mars black should mix pretty neutral grays. Also check your white to make sure the oil hasn't yellowed. Thanks for watching!
I tried to choose the most common blacks and what I have in my studio. I typically don't keep Lamp Black on hand. Payne's Gray is a mixed pigment which I didn't cover in these oil color videos. Thanks for watching! :)
Lamp Black is the same thing as Carbon Black. Years ago it was made from the soot of oil lamps. It's a cool black, but is very slow drying. I have never really tried it. Thanks for watching!
Hi Jason thanx so much for all the videos! by pigment check also the bob ross "midnight black" is made from phtalo green but with alizarin crimson. PR-83, PG-7. if anyone want to try just make sure is made by F webber (US) and not the European manufacture they are low quality. I just started painting for fun 18 months ago with spray paint and moved to oils (spray smell and toxic and the mask is no fun) really learning alot here and its time to upgrade for finer details, you make it way less intimidating :) you can see my better ones here: tsabeat.wixsite.com/gallery
Thanks for watching and for the link :) Your paintings are awesome!! Keep up the great work! Yes, the Bob Ross black is mixed, like Gamblin's, just be aware that Ross uses Alizarin Crimson (PR83) which is known to fade relatively quickly. So what will happen is the black will eventually turn dark green (since the Alizarin fades but the Phthalo will not). Gamblin uses Quinacridone Rose/PV19 in theirs which is far more permanent.
@@walcottfineart5088 thanks I'll remember that... I need to finish LOTS of paint i already got before buying new ones... seems so far "alexander art" paints i got are the best quality out of all (ross, pebeo, winton, mont marte) after those will sure try some of the gamblin 1980's and their chromatic black :)
You can certainly mix some wonderful blacks from other colors, but some artists might want to use black for convenience, or another application where they need a lot of it. :) Thanks for watching!
Have you ever worked in acrylics? Do you know any serious artist who works in acrylics? If you do work in acrylics can you make a video on that? It seems all the acrylic videos is like hobby and 'effects' videos, not serious art. You know what is so coincidental? After writing this I scrolled down and someone said he is leaving Acrylics for oil. Maybe I should leave acrylics alone. Its just that acrylics dries so much faster, lets say you are doing abstract expressionist art and you want to work layer on layer. What is your thoughts on this? Imagine there were no oil paints in Rembrandt's day, would he have cut it with acrylics? Don't think so, nothing beats oils richness. But, if you want to work like a child, maybe, I don't know? Look at Basquiat for example who drew with oil sticks on flatly painted acrylic surfaces in a collage kind of way. His one painting sold for $110 million. So if I sold my first $100 million acrylic painting i would be able to afford Rublev paints. What do you think of oil sticks....maybe you can do a video on this. These days you also get acrylic enamels.....I wonder if Jackson Pollock might have used them if they were available. The blackest paint.....czcams.com/video/JoLEIiza9Bc/video.html
Thanks for a great comment! I did try acrylics back in college and I never really liked them. I find the fast drying to be hard to work with. Plus I never cared for their texture that much. As you said, oils are much richer. If you want a fast drying time (24hrs or less) with all the advantages of oils, you can either try alkyds, or mix an alkyd medium like Liquin or Galkyd with your oil paint. Oils and alkyds are 100% compatible and can be mixed in the same painting even when wet. Oil sticks are a great medium to try. They are basically just oil paint in stick form. They will dry just like regular oil paint and can be mixed with regular oils as well. Thanks for watching!
hello sir nice video very informative its no wonder why zorn use ivory black for mixtures because it is weaker tinting strenght compared to mars and lamp black
I've been working with acrylics for 18 years and want to try oils.
Your channel is the best i've looked at for information.
Thanks for posting these videos, they've been a fantastic source.
Keep them coming!!!
Thank you so much for the nice comments!! I'm really glad you have found my videos useful. Enjoy your oil painting! :)
trevor bradley I just switched to oil mid January, (15 years acrylic) I will never touch acrylic again! I've been kicking myself every day now, for not switching sooner. it's much more enjoyable, I also feel like I have more expression and room to grow. if you go the simple route, there is only one extra step from acrylic. my setup: linseed oil, pure turpentine (from a place in Georgia), oil colors, and brushes I used to use for acrylic. you don't need to get all fancy with a ton of specialized mediums and stuff. the only advice out side of that is, don't go cheap on paint, and don't taint your perception of oil paint by using water mixable (in case you don't like it).
I hope that helps! and feel free to hit me up if you have questions from the acrylic perspective :)
Thanks dreanki for the encouragement. I am looking forward to giving them a go.
I have all my supplies picked up and about ready to pick my first piece to paint.
I have noticing that over the last few years my paintings are becoming too tight with acrylics and I am hoping that oils will help me loosen up.
Best of luck to you and I hope you really have fun with the oils! The key to painting in a looser style isn't so much in which paint you use as it is in how you approach it. Try to see everything as simplified shapes. Use the biggest brush you can for as long as you can...that will help you fight the urge to start getting too detailed.
trevor bradley lol, your having the opposite problem I had! I was trying to get more detailed, and found I couldn't get what I wanted from acrylic. however, I do have to say, wherever your style oil has the flexibility to do it. :) I hope you enjoy it!
p.S. let me know how you like it, I'm curious to see how another acrylic artist reacts to oil :)
I'm so glad you've gone over the composition of all the colors and demoed their strengths and weaknesses. Each video was so helpful. Thanks
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad it helped. There's still one or two more to come! :)
Once again I learned something! And that's a win! Thanks for your videos.
Thanks for watching!
I really enjoy your videos, thank you so much for the time you spend in making them.
Thank you for the nice comment! I'm glad you are enjoying my videos. :)
Video from this guy actually helps a lot, very much appreciated, keep up
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching :)
The difference using Chromatic black, and ivory black on my bird painting has helped tremendously where the black contrast for the black eye on a black mask, made it so much easier to get the eye to stand out. THank you for this knowledge!!
I'm so glad my video was helpful! Thanks for watching :)
Thanks man! I appreciate these videos!
Jason, I've learned a lot from you. You have a wonderful personality and your videos are very good quality. Thank you!! Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much for the nice comment! I'm glad you've enjoyed my channel. :)
Great demonstration. I have been mixing my own chromatic black. This was a good breakdown to watch.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching! :)
VERY informative, thanks you very much!!
You broke 1000 subscribers! Congratulations! So proud to have been one of your subscribers when you were in the single digits. I look forward to seeing this channel grow indefinitely. Keep up the great work!
Thanks!! Yes, I am excited about it! I think it's awesome that you were one of the early ones and it means so much that I am able to pass on my love of art to others. :)
Love your all videos ,very helpful
Thank you
Thanks for watching. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video!
This is the perfect video! I’ve been looking for in depth comparisons, sometimes hearing what people’s “favorites” are just isn’t enough!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching :)
Your videos are great............many thanks.
Thanks for the nice comment and for watching! :)
Thanks Jason, useful and informative
Glad you liked it! :)
I bought chromatic black yesterday because you referenced a liking for it in another one of your videos. Originally I didn’t know why I wanted it lol, but now I do. Again, another great informative video. I sound like a demented broken record... great video great video but honestly, every video you do is so on point! 😃👍🏻👏🏻
Thanks so much for the nice comment! I'm glad you've enjoyed my videos. :)
Amazing video as usual, keep up the good work!
Thanks for the nice comment! I'm glad you are enjoying my videos. :)
Thanks, it’s very intimidating using blacks and this video is very useful to get confidence to work with them, really I appreciate your sharing your ample knowledge….
I feel found was a blessing to found your videos…. Say a lot of your personality helping other people Task’s a lot…..
I'm so glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for watching :)
so very glad i found you again, had forgotten your name(sorry) you are so kind to help us all with your information. thank you
I'm so glad you are enjoying my videos! Thanks for watching :)
I just discovered chromatic black a few weeks back and it has become a favorite of mine. Nice timing to discover this clip :). I started to mix my own CB but ended up buying some premix for convenience
Yes, it's a great color for mixes! Thanks for watching :)
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you for the nice comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video..
I just had a bad experience with Gamblin Mars black. I chose it because it was supposed to be the blackest black and would dry with a matte finish. I used it straight from the tube to represent a large area of black velvet in my painting. The problem was when it dried it had a strange sheen to it, kind of iridescent, and looked like I had used a Sharpie pen. You ever used a Sharpie pen and noticed that weird color sheen it has to it? Just like that. Weirdest thing. I waited for it to dry completely, and then covered it with a layer of Ivory Black. Just a warning to others, remember that it has a sheen if used straight from the tube.
Thank you for the info! I'm not sure why the Mars Black would have done that. You may want to contact Gamblin about it. Thanks for watching!
Very interesting. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Blew my mind!
Thanks. Working on a Rembrandt-like portrait with a flat or matte black background. Having trouble getting a uniform "abyss" type finish. I suspect it is the medium I am using. It is distracting.
Again very nice video! I heard somewhere over youtube that George Inness glazed with ivory black, I think who commented on this was Dennis Sheehan. Chromatic Black is a very useful mixture!
Thanks for the compliment! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I wouldn't be surprised if Inness used Ivory Black. The color was very common until the Impressionists.
I'm sold 😉👍
Glad you enjoyed this! Thanks for watching. :)
Wonderful video. Thank you so much. : )
Glad you liked it!
hello sir nice video very informative its no wonder why zorn use ivory black for mixtures because it is weaker tinting strenght compared to mars and lamp black
Thanks really useful!
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad you found the video informative. :)
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Thank you! 😊
I love your knowledge man! If you don't already you should think about teaching color theory
Thanks so much for the nice comment! Glad you enjoyed this. :)
It would seem that chromatic blacks preserve the saturation (brightness of a color) of the colors they tint compared to more optic blacks. The dirty look means that it loses saturation.
Yes! You are quite right...the Chromatic Black neutralizes the color without making it dirty or "dead" looking. Thanks for watching!
I'm surprised you found chromatic black to be nearly neutral - I just tested it, along with 4 other blacks (each mixed with titanium, 2 different lead whites, cad yellow light, and cad red medium). What I found was that the chromatic was by far the bluest in all mixtures, although in the red the differences among them were subtle. With titanium, it was really significantly more blue than the others, and with the yellow, it made the cleanest and most chromatic green by far.
Interesting! I guess i was comparing it to the Ivory Black i have which is generally much cooler. It can also depend on lighting and other factors. The best thing to do is figure out what mixes your actual paints that you use make and how they work for you, so your testing was a great idea! Thanks for watching! :)
Hello! This is Kanchana from NOVA. I enjoy all your tips and information on all things art related. I am an oil painter now. You spoke about the three blacks. Would like to know about bone black and lamp black. Thank you
Bone Black is the same as Ivory Black. It isn't really made form ivory anymore of course, but was a long time ago. Lamp Black tends to be very dense and cool in tone. It dries very slowly. Thanks for watching!
Brother Jason, here I am again to give you mad props & say thx!!! So so so helpful... I have a question... would the mixtures of burnt umber & ultramarine blue give me a transparent chromatic black? I’ve def done the crimson (or magenta) phthalo Green (or viridian) mix, but that gives a perdy paynes gray. I have no doubt you’re gonna know EXACTLY what I’m talkin about, & thanks in advance fer yer answer, my friend!!!
Wayne in VA
Thanks so much for the nice comment! Yes, you will get a more transparent black with mixing Ultramarine and Burnt Umber although I actually prefer Burnt Sienna for this mixture. It's a better compliment to the Ultramarine and makes a cleaner color. :) Thanks for watching!
I just found that M Graham has a black called “Chroma Black” made from PB29 and PBr7. I tried both and think the M Graham’s is slightly warmer. Both are good.
Yes I heard that! I was unaware until recently. Thanks for posting the info here. :)
Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching! :)
Nice vídeo Walcott, as always. My main concern with the Cromatic Black is the transparency. Can you easily get full coverage on a white Canvas? Im coming from acrylics and their blacks were very transparent to the point that only carbon Black would work (not even Ivory Black covered well). Because of that, Im leaning towards Ivory, since I dont want the fast drying quality oh the Mars Black. Thanks a lot
Chromatic Black is made from two fairly transparent pigments so it may not have the opacity you want. Sounds like Ivory Black might work better for you. Thanks for the nice comment and for watching! :)
Any difference between Ivory black and jet black? The only thing i found on the W&N page was that jet black had a higher tinting strength, i am practicing the Zorn palette using gouache and unintentionally bought jet black instead of ivory, they are both on the cooler side but i am cheating a bit by adding ultramarine blue.
Thanks for watching! I have never seen "Jet Black" as an oil color...as you said it seems to be only in gouache. Jet Black is "Aniline Black" meaning it is a dye based pigment. That means it will stain more than Ivory Black and is probably more transparent. Hope that helps!
Which black has less light reflection. I'm trying to avoid seeing brush work. I use lamp black and there is a lot of glar, depending on where your standing in front of painting. I hope I made sense. Thank you
To be honest I'm not sure. I think maybe Mars Black might be more matte since it's an earth iron oxide color. You can also thin your paint with some solvent or a medium so it smooths out more and doesn't leave heavy brushstrokes. Another thing you can always do is put a matte varnish on your paintings which will reduce the gloss. Gamblin makes a matte version of their Gamvar. Thanks for watching!
Great video, as usual! :D Just one question, I was taught to use ultramarine blue and burnt umber to mix chromatic blacks, how would this black differ from the ones you mention?
Thanks for the nice comment and for watching! Gamblin's Chromatic Black is a mixture of Phthalo Green and Quinacridone Magenta. It's the same idea as your mixture of Ultramarine and Burnt Umber (which is also wonderful!)... You are using dark compliments to create a near-black. Ivory and Lamp Black are actual black pigments which tend to look a bit dirty in mixtures...they are better for specific uses. :)
To be more specific, Gamblin's chromatic black is a mixture of quinacridone red and phthalo emerald (or phthalo green, yellow shade).
I've been experimenting with the Zorn pallet. Which black would be best? Also would Payne's grey be cheating. I thought it'd be easier to get blues with it.
Thanks for watching! I would say use either Ivory Black or Chromatic Black (Gamblin). There's no such thing as "cheating". :) If you want to use Payne's Gray, use it! Each artist should find whatever palette works best for them. Enjoy!
Great video..what would you reccomend for replacing cad red light with something a little cheaper. Is There some pigment that isclose to it
Thanks for watching! Yes there is a pigment called "Pyrrol Scarlet" it's pigment index is PR255. It's pretty close to Cadmium Red light in hue but will not have the same opacity. It will typically be less expensive. Winsor & Newton calls their version in oils Scarlet Lake...but always check the PI number to be certain.
Walcott Fine Art thank you!
I just switched to oil paint in January, and I decided to go with all blue ridge oil colors. I see that you use some of his stuff too. I don't have any reference point for quality, and I'm wondering how you would rate blue ridge. do you find that they have a high quality paint? I feel like they are, but that might be because I used to use acrylic.
Thanks for the comment! Yes, Blue RIdge Oils are very good...top of the line brand! Don't feel you need to stick to any one brand though. You can if you want to, but most artists (including me) have certain colors they like from different paint brands. So the next time you need to buy a new tube, feel free to test out some other brands. You might enjoy watching my "Which Oil Paints Should You Buy" video. :)
is the chromatic black somewhat transparent? and are both thalo green and quinac rose transparent colors? and is it safe to assume that making my own black with thalo green and quinac rose would be basically the same as the chromatic black in the tube? thanks
Yes, Chromatic Black is a mixture of those two colors. They are both transparent so the black will be as well. You can certainly mix your own, but the pre-made paint is more convenient. Thanks for watching!
Hello, I have a tube of Neutral Color from Old Holland. Bought it for experimenting but I would like to know more about it. Is there anything you can tell me about it?
Thanks for watching! I have never used that color, but typically neutral tints are just that...a gray that's neither warm nor cool that you can use to create neutral mixes of colors from brighter ones. I would encourage you to experiment with it and see if you like it! :)
Nice information, I'm running low on black ivory black I think I have. I'm going to get some mars black becouse I would not need to use as much from the look of this video. Think I'll try an artist grade one of a manufacturer I have not used before, do you recommend any? I use winser and newton and some daler-rowney georgian.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you found the video useful. I would recommend trying Gamblin oil paints. Gamblin is an artist quality paint that is really nice and priced well. Enjoy!
Walcott Fine Art Thanks for replying, I'll go for that, cheers.
There is one other company that makes a chromatic black that I know of: M. Graham makes one, but theirs consists of pigments B 29 & Br 7(ultramarine + Burnt Umber). ; ) Its convenient for me because I dont have to mix a black every time I paint...
Thanks for watching and for the information about the M. Graham black! I will have to check that out. M. Graham remains one of the few brands I have never tried.
Really, Im suprised,you really should try a few colors they are excellent, made with walnut oil. The thing I really love about them is they dont "seperate" like most other brands that manufacture their paint with linseed or safflower oil!
I will definitely try them now thanks! :)
I have a tube of Lamp Black. What is it closest to? Thanks for all the great videos.
Thanks for the comment! Lamp Black is more transparent and more often used in watercolors although a few companies make it in oil. Lamp Black would probably be closest to Ivory Black since it is also a carbon based black.
Walcott Fine Art I was under the impression that Lamp Black and Carbon Black are the same thing-made from smoke carbons (soot)? These are the blackest black we have-so I hear-and they do seem to be that way for me, where as the Ivory Black is also carbon based but made from charred animal bones-which used to be solely from Ivory tusks. In oils I think the Ivory Black is the most transparent one is it not and is used more for mixing-like zinc white-when one wishes color chroma strength to be more prominent?
Is Lamp Black favored in WC because it can be made more transparent because of the very fine pigment or is it favored because it IS transparent?
Lamp Black is most often used in watercolors because unlike Mars or Ivory it doesn't granulate.
In oils it worst of the three because of very long drying time.
ulutiu Interesting. I thought Ivory was the longest drying in oil?
Lamp black is pure carbon. Ivory is carbon plus various calcium compounds (after all these are calcined bones).
Pure carbon doesn't aid oxidation of oil at all. And since oil paint dries by oxidation, lamp is bound to be the slowest drier.
Here is table of drying times of most of Williamsburg paints: www.justpaint.org/weighing-in-on-the-drying-of-oils/
I would like to see the difference in results if you used flake rather than titanium.
Thanks for the comment! Flake White is slightly warmer than Titanium so it would push the mixtures more toward neutral and away from the cool grays. Flake White also has a lower tinting strength so it would take less black to get the same shade.
Rembrand ivory black contains Pbk19 and Pb29 wich is ultramarine. MH is pure Pbk19, should be less milky/dull when mixed with bright colors?
With black you are losing so much chroma when it's mixed with colors that I'm not sure it makes that much difference...very slight if any. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 thanks! I'm very scared of using black oil paint, im mixing burnt umber and ultramarine or something similar, don't now when I will overcome fear and start using black color
@@paintkoziej6812 Actually your burnt umber and ultramarine mixture is probably way better! I would stick with that rather than a tubed black. :)
Sir, is the ivry black is a bone black and how isbone black for oil painting . Is it good?
Those are basically two names for the same pigment. Ivory Black tends to be a bit cool in oil painting, but is a fine color to use. It does not contain Ivory anymore in case you were worried. :) Thanks for watching!
Hi Jason,by any chance have you tried the chromatic black with a yellow to make a green?Just wondering would it make a green?Thank you
Thanks for watching Larry! Yes, the Chromatic Black will make green when mixed with a yellow. Greens made with black and yellow are very natural looking and great for landscapes. :)
@@walcottfineart5088 Thanks a million Jason
gamblins chromatic black(which i love) is actually a mix of phthalo emerald and quinacridone red, as they do not make quinacridone rose. other than that great video.
Thanks for the clarification! :)
Great video again. Do you know if Bob Ross and/or Bill Alexander paint is a Mars or Ivory black?
Thanks! To be honest, I'm not sure! I sold what was left of my Bob Ross paints on eBay a long time ago... I would assume it was Ivory Black?
Thanks Jason. By the way that is a cool sea scape you have in the beginning of the video.
Thank you so much!
Bob Ross used a “Midnight” Black. It is a Chromatic Black except what he used back then was the fugitive R83 Alizarin Crimson and G7. He does however, have an Ivory Black in his soft paints for florals and animals. Using the R83 in a chromatic black should not be an issue since the issue with it was that it goes dark over time and this is a “black” any way.
alizarin crimson and viridian would produce a more subtle version.
Thanks for watching! I would caution against using Alizarin Crimson as it is not permanent.
I'm suffering with blacks !! .. each time I mix evory (or Mars) black with Titanium white, it turns greenish .. is that normal?
That is very unusual! The only thing I can think of that would account for that is that some yellow is getting into your mixes. Ivory and Mars black should mix pretty neutral grays. Also check your white to make sure the oil hasn't yellowed. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 thank u very much
Where is lamp black? Or Payne’s gray dark?
I tried to choose the most common blacks and what I have in my studio. I typically don't keep Lamp Black on hand. Payne's Gray is a mixed pigment which I didn't cover in these oil color videos. Thanks for watching! :)
Not mentioned is lamp black which is the darkest black
Yes, this is not comprehensive, just a look at themost common pigments. Thanks for watching! :)
Hello Jason, what about Lamp Black?
Lamp Black is the same thing as Carbon Black. Years ago it was made from the soot of oil lamps. It's a cool black, but is very slow drying. I have never really tried it. Thanks for watching!
@@walcottfineart5088 so it is similar to ivory black.
Thank you for the info. Informative as always.
I was watching a demonstration of a portrait, the artist used Ivory black, so I went to my trusted Walcott to see if he was right 😂🤣😅
You are so amazingly knowledgable! You do not to have giveaways or newsletters; just make YT videos. Are you OK?
Yes I am fine, thanks! I stopped making videos during the pandemic and just never got started again. I'm glad you're enjoying my videos! :)
At first I thought that black tool with the yellow dot on it is a kazoo ...lol
Yeah that was my measuring spoon LOL Thanks for watching! :)
Gambling is a good product.
Hi Jason thanx so much for all the videos!
by pigment check also the bob ross "midnight black" is made from phtalo green but with alizarin crimson. PR-83, PG-7.
if anyone want to try just make sure is made by F webber (US) and not the European manufacture they are low quality.
I just started painting for fun 18 months ago with spray paint and moved to oils (spray smell and toxic and the mask is no fun)
really learning alot here and its time to upgrade for finer details, you make it way less intimidating :)
you can see my better ones here: tsabeat.wixsite.com/gallery
Thanks for watching and for the link :) Your paintings are awesome!! Keep up the great work! Yes, the Bob Ross black is mixed, like Gamblin's, just be aware that Ross uses Alizarin Crimson (PR83) which is known to fade relatively quickly. So what will happen is the black will eventually turn dark green (since the Alizarin fades but the Phthalo will not). Gamblin uses Quinacridone Rose/PV19 in theirs which is far more permanent.
@@walcottfineart5088 thanks I'll remember that...
I need to finish LOTS of paint i already got before buying new ones... seems so far "alexander art" paints i got are the best quality out of all (ross, pebeo, winton, mont marte) after those will sure try some of the gamblin 1980's and their chromatic black :)
Why ever use black when you can make black by mixing?
You can certainly mix some wonderful blacks from other colors, but some artists might want to use black for convenience, or another application where they need a lot of it. :) Thanks for watching!
Have you ever worked in acrylics? Do you know any serious artist who works in acrylics? If you do work in acrylics can you make a video on that? It seems all the acrylic videos is like hobby and 'effects' videos, not serious art.
You know what is so coincidental? After writing this I scrolled down and someone said he is leaving Acrylics for oil. Maybe I should leave acrylics alone. Its just that acrylics dries so much faster, lets say you are doing abstract expressionist art and you want to work layer on layer. What is your thoughts on this? Imagine there were no oil paints in Rembrandt's day, would he have cut it with acrylics? Don't think so, nothing beats oils richness. But, if you want to work like a child, maybe, I don't know? Look at Basquiat for example who drew with oil sticks on flatly painted acrylic surfaces in a collage kind of way. His one painting sold for $110 million. So if I sold my first $100 million acrylic painting i would be able to afford Rublev paints.
What do you think of oil sticks....maybe you can do a video on this.
These days you also get acrylic enamels.....I wonder if Jackson Pollock might have used them if they were available.
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Thanks for a great comment! I did try acrylics back in college and I never really liked them. I find the fast drying to be hard to work with. Plus I never cared for their texture that much. As you said, oils are much richer. If you want a fast drying time (24hrs or less) with all the advantages of oils, you can either try alkyds, or mix an alkyd medium like Liquin or Galkyd with your oil paint. Oils and alkyds are 100% compatible and can be mixed in the same painting even when wet. Oil sticks are a great medium to try. They are basically just oil paint in stick form. They will dry just like regular oil paint and can be mixed with regular oils as well. Thanks for watching!
Black is black I want my baby back.
LOL Thanks for watching!
hello sir nice video very informative its no wonder why zorn use ivory black for mixtures because it is weaker tinting strenght compared to mars and lamp black