ACR FIGHTS BACK Against Bots Who Stole MILLIONS
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They're All BASTARDS, Vivian!
I'm glad when I heard Doug Polk shitting on Charlie, I took the time to listen to Charlie, and quickly realized he's the one of the most normie and least ego driven of all the top players, who actually cares about the health of the poker community.
Yeah, kind of. He also thinks he's a magic wizard though, so there's also that đ
Charlie's got a massive ego, don't let the lovey dovey spiritual crap jerk your chain
I noticed this on ACR as well. Made an account a few years ago and was playing strictly Sit and Go's and there were about 6 or 7 profiles that I had noticed were playing 16+ hours straight for days and days on end across 10+ tables at the same time and playing extremely odd. They would fold 15-20 hands in a row then would all of a sudden call a jam 20-30bb's deep with 72o and won 90% of the time doing this. Very funky behavior and to win at that frequency over the 80ish games I played with these players.....yeah very shady things going on at ACR. Funny thing is, every one of these accounts were from the same country. Not to mention the multiple bank fraud charges that came up from them by depositing funds at ACR.....I could go on for days about them. It's just a shady company all around. Stay away!
there is same on gg poker mystery royale. i calculated someone must play 16 tables 8-10 hours to win leaderboard
That volume isnt Impossible over a short period of time. But i get your point.
â@@mrpenabommmystery royale is absolute rubbish anyway
Thank you Charlie, your iron integrity is always greatly appreciated.
Hi Charlie, thank you for the video.
I think that there is a big problem in the poker community and media here. I think it should be appreciated and encouraged more by the poker media that they did find and ban bots. Also, that guy that helped finding the bots should find way more appreciation.
I mean, in some way, even this video which I really like oversimplified is "ACR did something against cheating, don't go to hard on them guys"
The poker community and media actually gives incentives for sites not to take care about the cheating problems that much. The way it is now, a site does something about it, it is taken for granted and underappreciated, you lose some customers that get aware of bots the first time, you get bad press for not doing sth right or even ridiculed (in this video here that someone has been refunded an amount that he doesn't think is fair). There is no reward for a site taking action. And there is almost no reward for private people doing research. And that is a problem in incentives.
The question is, how we as a community can reward that guy. How could I ship him $50 as a thank you f.e.? (Or paying him a grand for having a deep look into the games I play on another site)
What do you think?
Because they own the bots
Is there any evidence for thos whatsoever?
@@CharlieCarrel Any time anything gets exposed it's by someone else and not by the poker room "security". I mean... Plus they have incentive to take as much money back from the "guarantees" they provide so they have a motive.
â@@CharlieCarrel same with GG, always a player who notices patterns , strange things etc
â@@vandalarThat isn't evidence for it being their own bots. It could easily be incompetence.
I wouldn't either out, but you have to base your conspiracy theories in reason, not purely assumption.
@@CharlieCarrel I'd assume it's very probable rather than improbable that they have some insider stuff going. And yes, it's all just assumptions and not an accusation, maybe i worded it badly. Just look at the past of online poker. And like you said- just a few years ago talking about bots taking tournament guarantees away would've ended you being labeled as a looney or conspiracy theorist but that is a technological reality. Sad thing is that most of the trust in online poker integrity is just blind trust. Some of the stuff can be verified by analyzing data and poker community has been pretty good at that for obvious reasons. But it seems that the more time goes by and more tech advances, the more likely it is that the entire industry is ran by bots and all kinds of stables, big data analysis, RTA etc etc. Sadly, i believe that just like at the early days of online poker when HUD-s came out there was discussion about whether it's ethical to use, due to technical reality of things we might see some of the RTA stuff or something similar being accepted to some extent at some point or another. But who knows. Trusting online is more difficult than ever.
I just wanna say that person that says he lost $77k and only got reimbursed 47Âą is ridiculous. I got reimbursed almost $50 and my ABI is $6. So I have to call bullshitâŠand I can provide proof of my Game Integrity Reimbursement if needed
ACR as been a bot infested swamp for a long time, I remember playing for a while on ACR cash PLO and a decent number of players at lower stakes PLO 50-100 had ridiculously similar frequencies. I think Joey Ingram also posted a video on similar bots on ACR around that time.
The Joey vid rings a bell. Ima lucky, I live in New Zealand and we can play anywhere, prolly why Lex has moved here but likely he wants Kiwi values and the nice guy aura instilled in his kids by sending them to Kiwi schools. All In Pav is here too but that's because Ozzie banned online pokers a few years ago. The foos.
He hasn't moved here, he was just visiting
Just show us how corrupt online poker is and riged
Nothing new, remember Full Tilt. Whenever money is involved, the cockroaches come out of their holes. (DeepL Trandlstor). Greets from no more Germoney đ€
If youâre serious about making money playing poker. NEVER PLAY ONLINE
If you want to train and battle low stakes, have at it
Last Friday ACR sent me an email saying I was getting back $6 due to bots on my table. I doubt i will ever deposit money on ACR but i grinded up to $62 from the $6 so far! wish me good luck maybe go $62 to 1k?? hope so lol
I was refunded $88. No idea how they arrived at this figure. I suspect it should be much much more.
i can see why these companies don't reimburse players. It's not like they could ever refund money that cheaters took out of the site. Online poker is not that profitable. So they can only refund what they confiscate which is most likely going to be a fraction of what was lost. Especially in tournaments where sure you might've lost $x in EV to a player, but more than likely most of that money went to a real player (or a bot that already cashed out), it's not like ACR can confiscate prize winnings from a legit player to pay back people that were cheated. So now we're talking fractions of fractions. But ok, we actually have money to return, even if it's a small amount. How do you determine who gets it and how much? You could calculate the EV of chips that were lost to the cheaters, and figure out the EV for every player who lost a pot to the cheater than give them their proportionate fraction of the recovered funds. But how exactly are you going to do that? Does ACR even have the backend capabilities to calculate that? Or a staff member with the necessary statistical understanding to build and calculate a system like that? more than likely the best a site like that can do is just divide the recovered funds equally by anybody who ever paid the cheater. That means most of the people getting funds probably only played one small pot or no pots at all with the cheater. Which is going to disproportionately affect players who lost significant amount of money/ev to the cheater. So now we're talking about fractions of fractions of fractions. There's basically no way to do this that doesn't either a. endanger the cashflow of the site, risking bankrupting it or b. give pittances to the affected players that's most likely more disrespectful than giving them nothing
lol. ACR was the only site that would not return my deposit when my state got regulated poker and I closed all my offshore accounts.
Online Poker has been ruined for years with bots, super users hacking to able to see others hole cards, hackers being able to see all players equity, and solver RTA. If you're playing online today and you're NOT cheating, you're definitely BEING cheated. I'll only play live poker from here on out. The way ACR and GG have handled these scandals is pathetic
I used to report bots all the time on ACR years ago. Nothing ever was done about them. I supported clear and obvious documentation of accounts registering and playing tournaments for inhuman amounts of time (continuous hourly sessions of 16-20 hours with a 2-4 hour break). I don't even recall ever hearing back from them. I stopped playing on their site forever ago. It's garbage and they don't care. They only act when absolutely necessary to save their ass.
Joey Ingram did a long expose about the ACR bot ring years ago.
Unregulated site is unregulatedâŠ
Shoutouts to MTTDatabaseReview guy for fighting the good fight, guy is a great coach and a class act. Best DB review in the business
i have no idea how much ive played vs bots but ive played over 1000 MTTs on ACR avg buy in of 11$ and they refunded me $10
Didn't Joe Ingram talk about this 5 years ago? It took ACR 5 years to start doing something about this.
"ACR fights back" by getting called out in public and then responding in the lest ideal way (letting them blind out instead of removing them from the tournament). Headline should be "ACR embarrassed failing to take action AGAIN" by not listening about these bots when they were told about them a month before
The hilarious thing is I think they blinded them out because they don't actually have the software capabilities to delete a player from a tournament without them going bust
Charlie the bot on ACR is not McGregor as you stated, it is Mr Egor, the mixing of upper and lower case caused several people on You Tube vids to say McGregor, including from Berkeys podcast team. That Bot sure is a tricky bugger, even trolling with his/hers/them/theyze/et al, handle.
Personally I believe that itâs not just ACR. Itâs every single online poker site on planet earth. Itâs illegal to play online in my country so we have to use crypto which has taken me all over many different sites and some are horrendous and some are downright criminal.
Online poker is done for years now bro. After pokerstars got sold and full tilt closed due to "issues" online poker is gone. Even then things were tricky and shady sometimes but now it's out of hand. These companies are stealing blatantly and people just keep hoping that after studying for a decade gto and etc they'll bing a big one and turn to coaches.
When you say "bots" are you referring to someone using RTA or a program that runs automatically playing perfect gto? Or both?
if i join a table on any site and more than a third of the players are from russia/belarus/brazil etc i leave the table immediately
also i have had a refund from stars recently due to chip dumping in stt
I couldn't hear the video over the open cabinet in the background đ€Ș
Hey Charlie. Thanks for the content. As always, much appreciated. Do you think the bot problem on ACR is strictly in the higher stakes games or is it also possibly prevalent in low to mid stakes? Have been thinking of joining ACR for some low stakes ($2-5) MTT action but this gives me pause. Are my concerns legit or not? Again, thanks for doing what you do for our community.
It's definitely in the low stakes too, probably even more than high stakes. I got refunded by ACR and I play small stakes
@@jimbojones9118 That's......disheartening. You would figure that after all this time, the poker sites would have a handle on this. Damn shame. Thanks for letting me know. And, as always, thanks for the content.
Can't help but think bots/bot rings are like coc kroaches, catch a few but there's a derriere-load more hidden somewhere
What about your own personal fight with horizontal farms? Vertical all the way baby!!!!!
Lmao why do i read this comment on all his videos and shorts? Whats this about?
@@adilbrohi2799 Ask Charlie! you deserve the truth
ah yes ACR bots, yet again. main problem with usa not having worldwide poker online
Played 550 hands vs Mregor 50$ Jackpots on Acr. I thought he's kinda fish/weak
Hmm.. was wondering why acr gave me ~$100 after not playing there for almost two years.. these bots must have been around for a looong time. I have a feeling lots of them were sng and tournament bots. Many cash game players from certain countries also feel like bots but itâs nice to see them cracking down on them finally.
The bots did not steal, the owners of the bots did. All the bots did was outplay a human...
Idk how I never got refunded anything when Iâm constantly playing on there. (For whatever damn reason, I just love online poker) Cash and mtts. 7k+ mtts and all dif stakes of cash. No refund ever.
I can't prove it but when I switched from FTP and Stars to Carbon and ACR, my winrate plummeted and I became a losing player that couldn't beat $5 sngs 5 years later, whereas I used to beat $33 sngs in the mid 2000s.
people are a lot better than they were in the mid 2000s
@@MrJoosebawkz yeah, it was early 2010s that FTP and PSs shut down and forced Americans to go to places like ACR in the first place, my point is I think the bots were there from the very beginning.
@@MrJoosebawkz they were probably at Lock Poker too.
@@gmgssilverplateacr pool probably the most strong now.
im playing 50nl on stars, but cant beat nl25 on acr.
a lot of regs and nits that gringing rakeback.
@@testarosa9314 That's probably it, many of the easy money quit online poker when FTP and AP and Poker Stars stole player money for years and years, and only the people who were playing for a living and didn't move on yet moved onto sites like ACR.
We would have more security if online poker wasnât illegal in the states
Webcams on your screen could work for now until they just start using AI deep fakes to cover things đ
This is why live will never die I can not trust any online site and if you do you may as well play slots imho if not bots there's extra computer running gto perfect goof bloody luck
I was one of those people he stacked and I only got back $15from ACR! After spending 2650 to get in
That hurts
Love seein vids like this. I just wanna play legit online poker in California
Your outfit is looking sharp, Charlie. No more tank top in the kitchen! lol
They deploy these bots nothing new here. This has been a thing on this site. Since it was converted from Doyleâs room to Acr branding. They can not cover the prize pool so they deploy bots not rocket science. Letâs say they never caught this last bot. Better yet the bot binks the win. They put up some random name online as the winner. Public is none the wiser then they make all the money off of entry fee plus prize p00l. Pretty easy con to pull. People play blind to this day like this site has not been this way since it started well over ten years ago now. Wake up
Just so you guys know, there are tons of bots at gg poker, and they literally never ban then, the only way for then to ban is reporting the account and explaining, their team is trash, i had a few accounts i was abble to exploit so i was not reporting then, they are playing pretty much every day for a year or so.
You have to verify accounts on Gg?
@@lolitapitpong3826 yes, but i think they use some random people ID from europe and deposit using bitcoin, thats how they open so many accounts, i think you shouldnt be able to deposit using bitcoin right away, maybe deposit through other methods before, idk, i feel like beeing able to deposit using bitcoin it makes it way easier for then.
Bot farms contracted with the sites
Bruh all the pokerplatforms use bots, they own the bots.. thatâs how they get some (rakeback) mah G
Wouldn't touch acr with a 20 foot pole
Looks more like 6% of a dollar. Money in: $.06
Charlie is like the Dalai lama of poker
Online poker is dead. Period. It's so obvious it screams to the heavens. Picture recognition plus AI plus perfect GTO. No idea why people are still playing. And I am sure they are getting better faster than the recognition.
Itâs definitely not as easy as it once was and Iâm sure it will get worse but good players still make huge money despite bots, coaching, streaming, ai, gto, etc. Iâve never read a book, used a chart, or had any coaching and I still pull minimum 6 figures on a bad year. But Iâve been playing since 2008 and Iâve seen all the âstrategiesâ, when it comes down to it poker is still poker.
whats the point playing online anymore?
I hardly play much on ACR but I received $89
I permanently self banned myself from ACR
The site is full of bots and also rigged
@@ashleymartin6521 seems increasingly harder and harder to play an honest game
15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
ALL online poker is a huge scam.....ALL....
Interesting take.. Iâve made 5+ mil in less than 8 yrs so I have to disagree. Although my live tournament cash rate is much higher so maybe youâre on to something.
Bot ring initiated
50 cents back :)
When you are a top poker player but you record on a potato camera... with a max of 720p of resolution... come on Charlie step up your game.
tHE bot IN QUESTION HAS LOST $14K IN 500 GAMES AS SEEN ON SHARKSCOPE SO WHATS UP??
players need to stop playing on ACR
GGPoker being the biggest đ
Wow
ACR is absolute trash
Hi charlie! I would love to talk to you in private to share an idea of mine (a collaboration).
I'm from italy, i'm now travelling to visit different communities and ecovillages. I'd love to start this collaboration with you to be able to work remotely while pursuing my passions with my beautiful girlfriend.
Hope to hear from you soon đ
DONT PLAY ONLINE ... simple
I remember playing exclusively high stakes on GG 2 years ago when they noticed I was colluded against, notified me and refunded me like $12.
Hilarious.
only reason i liked is because you called me a bastard