The Most Intimidating Integral I've Ever Seen

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 27. 06. 2021
  • This Putnam Series was given on the Putnam exam in 1997 (Problem A3). Let's figure out a way to deal with this Putnam problem!
    For those that don't know, the Putnam math competition features some super interesting and challenging problems!
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  • @BriTheMathGuy
    @BriTheMathGuy  Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +2

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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen Pƙed 3 lety +552

    Beautiful presentation! Love it!

  • @RisetotheEquation
    @RisetotheEquation Pƙed 3 lety +191

    Outstanding. Sometimes I wonder who's more impressive: the student who solved the integral or the person who conjured it.

  • @farukkaya4396
    @farukkaya4396 Pƙed 3 lety +58

    Arms getting bigger, so is the channel!

  • @flintsteel2700
    @flintsteel2700 Pƙed 3 lety +118

    The echo is a little jarring but nonetheless still a beautiful solution to such an intimidating integral! Good stuff

    • @sujitdey1717
      @sujitdey1717 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      And i thought i was the one who felt something was different.

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  Pƙed 3 lety +26

      Sorry about that! It should be fixed in the future.

    • @sujitdey1717
      @sujitdey1717 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@BriTheMathGuy no problem the math was great as always. Love you and your content. 💙.

  • @yohangross5518
    @yohangross5518 Pƙed 3 lety +31

    That's a very very beautiful way of solving a particularly intimidating integral, you just won a suscriber

  • @victorhernandez-eg7wp
    @victorhernandez-eg7wp Pƙed 3 lety +35

    That was so insightful. I have never dealt with an integral like that, but now I am confident that if I ever see one, not to panic. Thank you! I really enjoyed this video.

  • @archieharrodine3925
    @archieharrodine3925 Pƙed 3 lety +9

    That feeling when n factorial cancels

  • @MrThrashMan98
    @MrThrashMan98 Pƙed 3 lety +16

    Watching these videos makes me realize that my hunger for scientific knowledge is still stronger and bigger than my fatigue after a full-time, warehouse-assistant working day.

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  Pƙed 3 lety +4

      We all crave it! Thanks for watching after your tough day!

  • @lucas0m0james
    @lucas0m0james Pƙed 2 lety +14

    Very nice presentation! To be absolutely rigorous though, it'd be nice to mention that each of the series converge for all positive x (ratio test) and that the sum and integral can be interchanged (e.g. tonelli's theorem)

  • @yousifkhalil9655
    @yousifkhalil9655 Pƙed 3 lety +25

    Watched to the end, liked, saved to favorite math playlist, already subscribed, there isn't just anything left to do.

  • @thegodoflols
    @thegodoflols Pƙed 2 lety

    Phenomenal!!
    Your way of presenting a problem is mind-blowing.
    Discussing the possible methods in a step, how to start solving it, best approach ...
    Everything illustrates how good you are in math and throws light on the beauty of math

  • @tmsniper9229
    @tmsniper9229 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    5:11 i think swapping the integral and the infinite sum there requires using the dominated convergence theorem(if we think about it rigorously), very good presentation overall

  • @eduardoduque6288
    @eduardoduque6288 Pƙed 2 lety

    What a tremendous exposition! New subscriber! Thank you for your material! đŸŒčđŸ”„

  • @rishavchoudhuri8806
    @rishavchoudhuri8806 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Subscribed!! Brilliant way of solving the integral as well as presenting it. Loved the video!

  • @SaidVSMath
    @SaidVSMath Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Your videos kick ass man, I want to make ones just like them! I love this fast paced but concise format

  • @kummer45
    @kummer45 Pƙed 2 lety

    The format of black screen, the math in all the details and the clean process with all the steps makes these series of tutorial useful.

  • @manucitomx
    @manucitomx Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Wow!
    What a great way with words! I love your channel.

  • @PunmasterSTP
    @PunmasterSTP Pƙed 3 lety

    This was amazing; thank you so much for sharing!

  • @maxkempf7687
    @maxkempf7687 Pƙed 3 lety

    That is a suprisingly beautiful result! Thank you for covering this in a video. :D

  • @yusufdenli9363
    @yusufdenli9363 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    That was amazing👏👏 Congratulations

  • @tomkerruish2982
    @tomkerruish2982 Pƙed 3 lety +9

    The second power series (1 + xÂČ/2ÂČ + ...) equals the the Bessel function of the first kind J_0 evaluated at ix, although I don't know how that would be helpful in this problem.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      It would be helpful if you are familiar with the Bessel functions, since they satisfy many integral equations.

  • @majdsaleh_
    @majdsaleh_ Pƙed rokem +1

    You release that you're good at math when u start watching the contents in x2

  • @diegopablogordillovaras106

    Beautiful problem, and very beautiful answer.
    Using the sum representation of the exponential function and the Gamma function
 what a ride haha.
    Love your channel!!

  • @lizs004
    @lizs004 Pƙed 3 lety

    Such a great video!

  • @purim_sakamoto
    @purim_sakamoto Pƙed 3 lety

    うおおおお Bravo!!
    めっちゃくちゃわかりやすかったです!!!😍😍😍👍👍👍

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Your videos are so fun to watch.😃

  • @marble17
    @marble17 Pƙed rokem +1

    2:18
    My dirty brain just hears a curse word

  • @yomonsbuzz4978
    @yomonsbuzz4978 Pƙed 3 lety

    i appreciate this hope that maths will be fun and famous like nothing before once

  • @kinshuksinghania4289
    @kinshuksinghania4289 Pƙed 3 lety

    Wow!! Absolutely marvelous!!

  • @kafianan6586
    @kafianan6586 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    The way you explain, makes these intimidating integrals seem easier

  • @tueur2squall973
    @tueur2squall973 Pƙed 3 lety +16

    5:05 why can we do this ? Permute the sum and the integral?
    Is it because the sum is converging uniformly on [0,+infinity] ?

    • @BrollyyLSSJ
      @BrollyyLSSJ Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I'd say dominated convergence theorem, with something like exp(-u+u/2) = exp(-u/2) being the integrable dominant.

    • @Rzko
      @Rzko Pƙed 3 lety

      The integral of the sum is the sum of the integrals because the integral is a linear function. Then you just put out of the integral the terms that don't have 'u', which means they are constants.

    • @tueur2squall973
      @tueur2squall973 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@Rzko U can do this when Everything is finite , I mean when the sum is finite , but when It's a series (infinite sum) , you need more argument : you need to know if the sum is converging , how it's converging in order to switch the sum with the integral

    • @tueur2squall973
      @tueur2squall973 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@Rzko And yeah Thank you , I did understand the following steps

    • @Rzko
      @Rzko Pƙed 3 lety

      @@tueur2squall973 are you sure about that? An infinite sum is just the limit of a partial sum (idk if we say like that in english)

  • @sicapanjesis3987
    @sicapanjesis3987 Pƙed 3 lety

    Your presentation of the solution always gets me. My best wishes to you and please please continue

  • @djridoo
    @djridoo Pƙed 3 lety +1

    So good video !

  • @yahav897
    @yahav897 Pƙed 3 lety

    I really enjoy these videos! Can't wait to start taking higher level maths in uni

  • @aloneworm7
    @aloneworm7 Pƙed 2 lety

    4:15 When he said "we still have some exes lingering about' , I felt that

  • @mehex9858
    @mehex9858 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    By looking at that integral, I instantly understood that I would not be able to solve it if I try.
    *And I was not disappointed*

  • @blazedinfernape886
    @blazedinfernape886 Pƙed 3 lety +23

    Beautiful. I am so proud of myself that I solved it on my own.
    Edit: Okay maybe I didn't solve it completely correct lol I messed up a 2^r and got the answer e instead of sqrt(e)........ that is fine right!?!?!

  • @scotttidwell262
    @scotttidwell262 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great video, thanks Bri. What program are you using for the text?

  • @ianbryant
    @ianbryant Pƙed 2 lety

    I like that you get into the math immediately

  • @maximevanderbeken4712
    @maximevanderbeken4712 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    Nice proof ! Now you just need to justify swapping the sum and the integral.. as it cannot always be done .

  • @ashishraje5712
    @ashishraje5712 Pƙed 2 lety

    Great u make maths lucid

  • @rotsovanvorleak4704
    @rotsovanvorleak4704 Pƙed 2 lety

    Such the one of the best teacher ever

  • @ArjunBhanap
    @ArjunBhanap Pƙed 3 lety

    Incredible explanation!

  • @romanoemmanuelle1967
    @romanoemmanuelle1967 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Beautiful!

  • @axbs4863
    @axbs4863 Pƙed 2 lety

    That worked out so perfectly lmao

  • @dharrshanmahadevan9450
    @dharrshanmahadevan9450 Pƙed 2 lety

    i have no clue what he is talking about but i still love it

  • @loshwoof311
    @loshwoof311 Pƙed 2 lety

    cool integral, great video:D

  • @user-wy3mr6nj6w
    @user-wy3mr6nj6w Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Amazing!

  • @frankreashore
    @frankreashore Pƙed 3 lety

    Very nice. Thanks.

  • @muse0622
    @muse0622 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    I can explain this integral just one word.
    WOW

  • @malexmartinez4007
    @malexmartinez4007 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    The awkward moment when a solution is as pretty as the one presenting it.

  • @arnavsoni1701
    @arnavsoni1701 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    You really should become a math professor....

  • @hydropage2855
    @hydropage2855 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    This is awesome

  • @kangmoabel
    @kangmoabel Pƙed 2 lety

    This video is sooooo Good ❀❀
    from Ethiopia, Africa

  • @mohammedal-haddad2652
    @mohammedal-haddad2652 Pƙed 3 lety

    Incredible!

  • @adithyar4282
    @adithyar4282 Pƙed 3 lety

    bro pls make more videos on putnam integrals .They are really interesting. Thank you in advance

  • @Diaming787
    @Diaming787 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Is there a Taylor series expansion that expands to the factor of (n!)^2?

  • @polychromaa
    @polychromaa Pƙed 2 lety

    Are there any other places where i could find an integral like this with two sums multiplied together in the integrand?

  • @manojsurya1005
    @manojsurya1005 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    đŸ€©, it was a crazy integral, it involved power series gamma u sub,I want more integrals like this

  • @iamtrash288
    @iamtrash288 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Does the second series converge on 0 to INF though? I can't really see it because I suck at evaluating them functional series.

    • @umylten4142
      @umylten4142 Pƙed 3 lety

      The second series absolutely converges.
      If I call U(n) = {x^(2n)}/{[2^(2n)]*(n!)^2}, then you have:
      U(n+1)/U(n) = {x^2}/{4(n+1)^2}, which converges to 0 as n -> infinity, for all x in (0, infinity).
      By the ratio test, that series converges.

  • @nqa1893
    @nqa1893 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Always awesome like you are :-)

  • @viniciusmoretti
    @viniciusmoretti Pƙed 2 lety +1

    You say that to all of them.

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 Pƙed 2 lety

    For the first factor I did the following
    pulled out x,
    substituted u=-x^2/2
    For the second factor i have got second order linear differential equation but not with constant coefficients
    xy''+y'-xy=0
    Second factor will probably be Bessel function
    but when we get first factor Gamma function will be helpful

  • @EssentialsOfMath
    @EssentialsOfMath Pƙed 3 lety

    Nice, I was able to do this one! Really awesome integral

  • @minecraftherobrine1234
    @minecraftherobrine1234 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    This is so good

  • @victorribera5796
    @victorribera5796 Pƙed 2 lety

    can you cancel the x, in the same quick step where you cancel the 2^n?? since one of the limits of integration is 0 you would have a 0/0 in x, I'm not sure if it is allowed to cancel out the x there

  • @aayushsinghsengar7129
    @aayushsinghsengar7129 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    this goes way beyond advanced level of that pesky JEE

    • @dfsfssdfsdfs3084
      @dfsfssdfsdfs3084 Pƙed 3 lety

      Really? I thought the advanced JEE was the hardest test

  • @Observer_detector
    @Observer_detector Pƙed 3 lety +1

    hmmmm.. that integral can simplify like
    ʃ (1-x*exp(-x^2))*BesselI(0,x) dx
    and BesselI(0,x) is modified Bessel Function of the First kind

  • @normanfrancisco2063
    @normanfrancisco2063 Pƙed 3 lety

    Woah!!! Mind blown...

  • @ranadanial6668
    @ranadanial6668 Pƙed 3 lety

    Hi I graduated from mathematics in Science in 2000 from Iraq and I have been in Australia 11 years.I have recognised in my Bachelors degree from Australia and I did in Australia certificate 3and4 in Accounting 9 years ago and I didn’t work all past years because of some circumstances I had related to my family . Now I am thinking for work and I wish something related to my math bachelor degree instead Tafe certification for better job even I can start from step 1 but in the future it will leads me to good job in the math field . I know you are not in Australia but I would like to ask you if you could advise me what kind of job I have to find related to what I have with no experience and from long time of graduation and also in case if there’s an any support courses related to the gap made after graduation to be suitable or competent for work .Sorry I am asking you but I am thinking you might help me from where I can began . I was thinking for doing master in math but I found it well be harder to me now after 21 years of the graduation even I got about 85% in bachelor in math all university years or excellent in Accounting (but for only one year) . Thank you in advance. Rana

  • @a.osethkin55
    @a.osethkin55 Pƙed 3 lety

    Super!

  • @tommoritz1007
    @tommoritz1007 Pƙed 3 lety

    That was so enjoyable

  • @deekshanaik2438
    @deekshanaik2438 Pƙed 2 lety

    I lost track for the first few times but I'm glad I understood this in the end :)

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  Pƙed 2 lety +1

      it's a tricky one! :) thanks for watching!

    • @deekshanaik2438
      @deekshanaik2438 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@BriTheMathGuy yea your vids are quite interesting... Who knew a bio nerd like me would binge math questions some day... Thanks for ur efforts

  • @henryginn7490
    @henryginn7490 Pƙed 2 lety

    I hear so much stuff about the Putnam being ridiculously hard, but every step here was the most obvious thing to do given the current stage. Like it's not something you just scribble down in a hurry, but it's something I imagine most mathematically experienced people could do. Lovely presentation though

  • @atrumluminarium
    @atrumluminarium Pƙed 3 lety

    That was quite an aesthetic one

  • @kummer45
    @kummer45 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Use double factorials. These are useful.

  • @braedenlarson9122
    @braedenlarson9122 Pƙed 2 lety

    I love watching *other* people do integrals :)

  • @endormaster2315
    @endormaster2315 Pƙed 3 lety

    Incredible

  • @aakashkhamaru9403
    @aakashkhamaru9403 Pƙed 2 lety

    Amazing.

  • @jakewenczkowski1056
    @jakewenczkowski1056 Pƙed 3 lety

    Awesome

  • @puceno
    @puceno Pƙed rokem

    at 3:30 u had a chance to turn that sum into e^2x*sum(n=0,infinity,1/2^2n)

  • @pamir8232
    @pamir8232 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    The second part can also be written as (x^n)^2 / ((2^n)^2 * (n!)^2) and we can take the entire term into square like (x^n / 2^n * n!) ^2 which we can write as ((x^n/2^n)/n!)^2 = ((x/2)^n /n!) ^2 so we can put it into e^x form like (e^(x/2))^2 which basically is e^x.

    • @violintegral
      @violintegral Pƙed rokem

      You made a mistake. In general, given a sequence a_n, the sum of (a_n)^2 is not equal to (the sum of a_n)^2

  • @felipegomabrockmann2740
    @felipegomabrockmann2740 Pƙed 3 lety

    that was pretty cool

  • @aashsyed1277
    @aashsyed1277 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    You did a HARD putnum problem in 6 minutes!
    So impressed !
    I think you are a genius !

    • @magicmulder
      @magicmulder Pƙed 3 lety +2

      He explained the solution in 6 minutes. No telling how long it took him to find the solution.

    • @aashsyed1277
      @aashsyed1277 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@magicmulder no but at least he is a genius .........

    • @magicmulder
      @magicmulder Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@aashsyed1277 He is very good, but most math students could solve that one. Genius is rare. Very rare.

  • @shehnazsalahuddin6053
    @shehnazsalahuddin6053 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I like your videos very much. One tiny suggestion though- can you slow down your speed while explaining such problems. You go very fast, which is problematic to understand what you are saying. I mean, before even I understand the concept you told, you move to another concept.

  • @YT-uo7fc
    @YT-uo7fc Pƙed 3 lety +3

    why echo?

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  Pƙed 3 lety

      Sorry about that! It should be fixed in the future.

  • @daphenomenalz4100
    @daphenomenalz4100 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Why do we always end up at gamma in these types of problems 😂,

  • @ashikak5743
    @ashikak5743 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Intimidating ❀

  • @raunak1147
    @raunak1147 Pƙed 3 lety

    I got the first sum. But was clueless about what to do with (n!)^2...
    Subbing x^2/2=u was brilliant bruh

  • @PixelSergey
    @PixelSergey Pƙed 3 lety +1

    This one was very beautiful

  • @tornation5609
    @tornation5609 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Is the echo on purpose ?

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  Pƙed 3 lety

      Had an issue while recording, Sorry about that! It should be fixed in the future.

  • @spsubjectparaphrased8377
    @spsubjectparaphrased8377 Pƙed 2 lety

    Simplified results are beauty gives extraterrestrial vibes.

  • @fasihullisan3066
    @fasihullisan3066 Pƙed 3 lety

    awesome

  • @keldwikchaldain9545
    @keldwikchaldain9545 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    What's with the audio issues?

    • @BriTheMathGuy
      @BriTheMathGuy  Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Sorry about that! It should be fixed in the future.

  • @ARBB1
    @ARBB1 Pƙed 3 lety

    Nice answer

  • @azurev2258
    @azurev2258 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    it's crazy how something that looks absolutely nasty like this can simplify down into √e at the end

  • @quantumgaming9180
    @quantumgaming9180 Pƙed 3 lety

    Mathematics always blows up my mind

  • @aaryanjogina
    @aaryanjogina Pƙed rokem

    I liked this

  • @AcademyOmen
    @AcademyOmen Pƙed 3 lety

    Nice🍀