A “Normal” Day for The Irish on The American Frontier

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  • čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
  • How did the Irish arrive in America? What was life like for the Irish on the American Frontier? How would the Irish be welcomed in a new foreign land? Where did the Irish work? What type of businesses were the Irish involved in? What states did the Irish live in? How did the Irish serve the military?
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Komentáře • 90

  • @djquinn11
    @djquinn11 Před 4 měsíci +113

    The Irish have never forgotten the charity of the Choctaw. Imagine barely being able to feed your own people due to oppression and hearing of the starvation in Ireland and helping a people you had never met. That is having humanity.

    • @halfdome4158
      @halfdome4158 Před 4 měsíci +4

      And thousands of whhyte Americans sent food, money and supplies, ship tickets to come to the US. The plight of the Irish was in all the newspapers and donations were sought from everyone. This is in addition to the $500,000 our govt designated to buy food, etc and to ship it to Ireland.

    • @mrgoatguy7828
      @mrgoatguy7828 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @halfdome4158 Unfortunately though we still lost 2 million people and some of the food and money was taken by Britain

    • @CornPopWazABadDude
      @CornPopWazABadDude Před 4 měsíci

      @@mrgoatguy7828 the video said 1 million, what was it - 1 or 2 million?

    • @mrgoatguy7828
      @mrgoatguy7828 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@CornPopWazABadDude due to the initial famine 1 million to emigration and 1 million deaths

    • @CornPopWazABadDude
      @CornPopWazABadDude Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@mrgoatguy7828 ahh, makes sense. That is wild, any idea what the total population of the country was back then? That mightve been like 1/4 or so of all people living there at the time?

  • @pauloamw
    @pauloamw Před 4 měsíci +40

    Native Americans actually donated more than Queen Victoria personally.

    • @pillipino3788
      @pillipino3788 Před 4 měsíci

      Queen Vickie hated paddies as all English did and do

    • @mrgoatguy7828
      @mrgoatguy7828 Před 4 měsíci

      The British Tried to kill us during the famine, they shipped all remaining civilian food out of Ireland and all of the food from our factories were shipped to England

    • @guillermoadrianolopezdomin1860
      @guillermoadrianolopezdomin1860 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Ironically Sultán Abdulmecil from the Ottoman Empire send money (10,000 £ of that age) to help the Irish, but Queen Victoria send 2,000 £ as "help", and her government prohibited any other donation that surpassed the one of the queen, so he only could send 1,000£

    • @pauloamw
      @pauloamw Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@guillermoadrianolopezdomin1860 that's right, everyone did more than the queen to her own subjects.

  • @christysonaroll1570
    @christysonaroll1570 Před 4 měsíci +53

    Genocide not famine!!

    • @Raja-bz4yw
      @Raja-bz4yw Před 4 měsíci +8

      It was a famine at one point. It became a genocide when the British refused to do nothing and allow more to die. Their policies forced out more Irish than anything.

    • @master_beefmagoo2944
      @master_beefmagoo2944 Před 4 měsíci

      Actually queen Victoria completely screwed over the irish she donated like 2k and there was a law that nobody could donate more than the queen so that pretty much made it so nobody could help the irish

    • @LeahDyson-kq4bd
      @LeahDyson-kq4bd Před 3 měsíci +6

      ​@@Raja-bz4ywit was famine only from the potato problem but the British were exporting stuff out of Ireland and using it for themselves or to trade while Irish starved

    • @Notso987
      @Notso987 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Truth.

  • @Stuckinabucketagain
    @Stuckinabucketagain Před 4 měsíci +22

    My family are the Irish that settled in the Appalachians, which my other family is the indigenous and the Cajuns. My mom spoke Irish. I speak a little

    • @andysalt9232
      @andysalt9232 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Gaelic

    • @Stuckinabucketagain
      @Stuckinabucketagain Před 4 měsíci +4

      @andysalt9232 Sá. Gaélíge. In English they just call it Irish, as it can be confused with the Scottish Gaelic dielect.

    • @ko0974
      @ko0974 Před 13 dny

      @@andysalt9232 we say to speak Irish here in Ireland

  • @user-ik6kb7bw7v
    @user-ik6kb7bw7v Před 4 měsíci +22

    I'm an American of Irish and German descent I learned something new today I didn't know the Irish attacked attack Canada after the civil war lol

    • @Nameless_Night
      @Nameless_Night Před 4 měsíci +2

      Oh no! As an Irish Canadian.....I'm confused 😂😂

    • @Nameless_Night
      @Nameless_Night Před 3 měsíci

      @@stevenc8140 😂😂 okay! Is it a paying job, being confused?

  • @neilhannan7525
    @neilhannan7525 Před 4 měsíci +18

    During the American Civil War my people were Give me the nickname the Fighting Irish General Edwin Sumner of the Union once said Qutoe
    "if the Irishsmen ever ran from a battlefield i would ran too"
    President Lincoln once made a speech to union he kissed the Irish colors and said "God bless the Irish Flag
    Confederation General Robert E Lee Referred to 69th Regiment as Qutoe "that fighting 69"
    And Norte Dame Football Team there nickname was the Fighting Irish that words holds historially valve to the Irish who died Fighting in American Civil War ❤❤

    • @mrgoatguy7828
      @mrgoatguy7828 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Cool, especially since we didn't have our independence at that point, which means that he kissed the tri-colour. Advocating for our independence, now I like him even more!!

  • @jaydoster
    @jaydoster Před 4 měsíci +7

    That 1853 bare-knuckle fight between "Old Smoke" Morrissey and Yankee Sullivan took place in Boston Corners, New York...a backwoods hamlet within a three hour train ride north of New York City. The circumstances surrounding this notorious event is worthy of an entire Nutty History episode!

  • @mickeyflanagan4019
    @mickeyflanagan4019 Před 4 měsíci +17

    So much cool info. I just finished the book "Patty Wacked." It started with the story of "Old Smoke." Great Video. Thanks!

  • @IrishMike22
    @IrishMike22 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Out-friggin-standing video!!!! I truly wish more people knew about this stuff...so many groups have been persecuted, neglected and marginalized throughout history....we need to be better as humans.

  • @dennislogan6781
    @dennislogan6781 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Correction. At 15:40 you show a picture an say it is the Pinkerton Detective Agency. That is incorrect sir. That is a famous photograph of the Hole in the Wall gang with such famous members as Butch Cassidy, The Sundance Kid, and Harvey Logan. It was made in my home town of Fort Worth, Texas.

  • @ZJPark7111
    @ZJPark7111 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Im really starting to like this channel. Thank you for all your hard work. Its all very well done!

  • @Davidf8L
    @Davidf8L Před 4 měsíci +5

    First families of East Tennessee members scots Irish Cherokee yes I've heard some stories ❤thanks for your work and time

  • @moirajamiechuma5149
    @moirajamiechuma5149 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Yay! A new video from one of my faves🤩

  • @koriw1701
    @koriw1701 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Thank you got yet another excellent video. The Scottish people really appreciate you calling them 'Scots-Irish, rather than the derogatory 'Scotch-Irish.'
    It's wonderful to hear you try to pronounce everything the way it's supposed to be and everyone I've read in the comments says the same thing. In that light, you *almost* got 'Schuylkill' right. But don't worry, *nobody* gets it right if you weren't raised in the Delaware Valley. The word is Dutch, (which isn't surprising as there are many Pennsylvania Dutch) and it's translated as 'hidden river,' referring to the river's confluence with the Delaware River at League Island, which was nearly hidden by dense vegetation.
    Most of the letters are silent, and since Dutch is quite the tongue-twister anyway, it is pronounced thus: "SKOO-kull" As for the railroad company, the word 'Reading' is pronounced "RED-ing"

    • @ko0974
      @ko0974 Před 13 dny

      Ulster Scott's is how know in Ireland

  • @jimartinez2016
    @jimartinez2016 Před 4 měsíci +7

    I want some Mexicans in the Frontier content now. The frontier was a wild time!!

    • @BFRIZZLE909
      @BFRIZZLE909 Před 4 měsíci +4

      The original cowboy, caballos that would be cool.

  • @mikeyfn-a6684
    @mikeyfn-a6684 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Searching for the best break the black forties could afford them
    Came these ever-proud world-renowned rowdy, roving men
    With a firmness and a purpose that so many did dismiss
    Sailed these huddled human ballasts on their stinking coffin ships
    [Chorus:]
    From the prison of their lonely hearts they labored long and hard
    A poor needy down trodden rough and ready sod
    Working 18 hour days for the B.A.C.
    Intelligent, respectable, but made of modest means
    With an independent spirit, so full of hopes and dreams
    Opportunity denied them in a doomed and starving land
    Came these openhearted kindly spirits of a truly threatened man

  • @KheKheGanja
    @KheKheGanja Před 4 měsíci +4

    It's true , the Irish were also housed with the African slaves at times, hence the Caribbean dialect in alot of the islands have Irish tone to them for example the accent of the people of Barbados "bajans" they sound very similar , some words they say in and Jamaica especially have Irish undertone. Shows the closimity within the integration of the "slaves" . The proof is in the DNA as well lol😅

  • @thomasdevine5202
    @thomasdevine5202 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The Irish didn't starve just because the potatoes rotted, they starved because Trevelayn took all the good food for the English.

  • @namieaguilar
    @namieaguilar Před 4 měsíci +3

    I find out i have Scottish and Irish in me as descent and i remember my ma told me and my 2 younger siblings about that we have irish and that our ancestor left Ireland bc his family got killed and he left and went to America until fews years later they found him and killed him and they don't know that he have a wife and kids

  • @viralyoutubeshorts4687
    @viralyoutubeshorts4687 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Please make more frontier videos

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
    @user-qs7gx7rp7m Před 4 měsíci +2

    Good stuff !

  • @andrewrolfe4334
    @andrewrolfe4334 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Very well done,sir.

  • @kyote1089
    @kyote1089 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Can you please do more on Canadian history, please? 🙏🏻

  • @trisgilmour
    @trisgilmour Před 4 měsíci +2

    Very interesting

  • @madamesalamander16
    @madamesalamander16 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Cheers to the Irish that lived and worked in old Mauch Chunk, now Jim Thorpe, PA. The infamous Molly Maguire trial was an early labor dispute with the coal barons that shaped the early days of the worker's rights movement in the US. And, all the Mauch Chunk Millionaires hired Irish Catholic maids and German Lutheran butlers, confident that they shall be naturally unattractive to one another. 😆

  • @edsteward7717
    @edsteward7717 Před 4 měsíci +1

    That was an interesting one.

  • @lianefehrle9921
    @lianefehrle9921 Před 4 měsíci +2

    You said it all. Thanks for the info

  • @tomreilly515
    @tomreilly515 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank youuuor

  • @mattihp
    @mattihp Před 4 měsíci +1

    15:30 is Reading in the US pronounced like that?!

  • @diobolikal1230
    @diobolikal1230 Před 4 měsíci +3

    🥃

  • @janvanaardt3773
    @janvanaardt3773 Před 2 měsíci

    During the Anglo Boer war Irish came and supported the Boers The Boers are protestant but being both anti enlish they worker together

    • @ko0974
      @ko0974 Před 13 dny

      Thank you, that I never knew !! Just proves the troubles in Ireland were not about religion, but occupation

  • @master_beefmagoo2944
    @master_beefmagoo2944 Před 4 měsíci +7

    The irish were slaves too but you dont hear the irish begging for handouts in the form of reparations like a curtain group of individuals

  • @caseybranton812
    @caseybranton812 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You forgot about the rail rrroad workers

  • @karlfonner7589
    @karlfonner7589 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Reading railroad😂 is pronounced Redding railroad😂

  • @LeahDyson-kq4bd
    @LeahDyson-kq4bd Před 3 měsíci +1

    Can't believe my ancestors were this poor the irish are rich now

    • @Notso987
      @Notso987 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Really? Where? I’m Irish American I make good money because I bust my ass. I am not rich. I don’t know, I’ve never heard anyone say that we are rich in anything other than spirit, hart and pride!

  • @mattihp
    @mattihp Před 4 měsíci +2

    19:00 it is county Cork, not Cork County

  • @CherokeeBird
    @CherokeeBird Před 4 měsíci +4

    I have Scots-Irish all in my ancestry on my mom's side. I found that my 7th great grandmother was enslaved in a breeding house 😢 Indentured servants were nothing more than slaves, and treated way more harshly than African slaves.

  • @walkertongdee
    @walkertongdee Před 4 měsíci

    Untold eh, so they are just making this up?

  • @glenn6583
    @glenn6583 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I believe the Irish have been mistreated, and had much misfortune!
    Some of what I hear of the potato famine is over simplified. Wealthy Irish people were OK, they kept a lot from their fellow Irish. Many things went wrong!

  • @inukleist5258
    @inukleist5258 Před 4 měsíci

    Oi oi oi! ;D

  • @Bloodsaber64
    @Bloodsaber64 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Why didn't the Irish fish to make up the difference in potatoes? Aren't they surrounded by the ocean

    • @mrgoatguy7828
      @mrgoatguy7828 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Only the people on the coastline could've done that, and it's not as easy as it sounds, us Irish were so poor to the point that we couldn't even afford clothes, we wouldn't have been able to Because people were starving they did not have the energy that would be required to go fishing, haul up nets and drag the boats ashore. In addition, some people may have sold their personal belongings in order to survive. This would have included their boats.

    • @ko0974
      @ko0974 Před 13 dny

      Because to do so woukd be stealing from the King, which was a hanging offence. If young they were held in workhouse till shipload full, and were then transported as slaves to the Empire.. When Cromwell ruled he evicted Irish from their homes and lands ,and English moved in, so they had litery nothing

  • @MbisonBalrog
    @MbisonBalrog Před 4 měsíci

    The reason Ireland suffered famine is a lot of people monocropped. Never good idea. Raise sheep grow turnips carrots etc go fishing and no famine

    • @mrgoatguy7828
      @mrgoatguy7828 Před 4 měsíci +1

      We were way too poor, some people can't even begin to imagine how much poverty was in Ireland at this time. They couldn't afford anything but potatoes, so that's all they could sow. And also nearly all of the crops and animals raised and factories used, all exported to outside of Ireland particularly England. (700 year's of oppression didn't help either). They had to sell most of their belongings to survive anyways including boats and fishing equipment so fishing wouldn't have worked either.
      The Blight in potatoes didn't help either

    • @MbisonBalrog
      @MbisonBalrog Před 4 měsíci

      @@mrgoatguy7828 if you own land then can afford plus potato is new world crop. What they farm originally? Unless they all just sharecroppers, but then LLs lose 💰 when potato crops fail. The LLs should then plant something else. Unless of course the famine created on purpose.

    • @mrgoatguy7828
      @mrgoatguy7828 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @MbisonBalrog well I see your point, but most of the working class Catholic farmers got paid very very little and Sir Walter Raleigh introduced potatoes to Ireland in 1589 so they were there for quite a while. We often used the good land to grow things like wheat and corn that they would sell to pay their rent. This left the farmers with a small piece of land to grow their own food. Potatoes took up very little space and were very nutritious. One acre of potatoes could feed a family of four for a year. But the potato blight made them all inedible, and if they did eat them they would get violently ill and have severe diarrhea. Until the arrival of the potato in the 16th century, grains such as oats, wheat and barley, cooked either as porridge or bread. At least two-thirds of the farmers in Ireland grew only potatoes for themselves and their family, so the other civilians who weren't farmers couldn't work with much. So By the time of the famine, nearly half of Ireland's population relied almost exclusively on potatoes for their diet, and the other half ate potatoes frequently. Why were potatoes so important to Ireland, and why did the Irish not grow much else? The potato plant was hardy, nutritious, calorie-dense, and easy to grow in Irish soil. AND There wasn't enough other food available in Ireland because so much of it was exported to England. The land in Ireland was controlled and owned by English Landlords, many of whom lived the high life in London while their tenants starved. In fact, the export of all livestock from Ireland to England increased during the famine except for pigs. However, the export of ham and bacon did increase. Other exports from Ireland during the "famine" included peas, beans, onions, rabbits, salmon, oysters, herring, lard, honey and even potatoes. So it was attempted genocide caused mainly by Britain.

    • @MbisonBalrog
      @MbisonBalrog Před 4 měsíci

      @@mrgoatguy7828 once blight happens you have no choice but switch. If they aren’t allowed then famine is man made on purpose by govt.

    • @mrgoatguy7828
      @mrgoatguy7828 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @MbisonBalrog It was man made that's the thing, not the blight (Obviously) the famine. If you read my previous comment then you would realise that they weren't able to switch, potatoes were the main source of food.

  • @Raja-bz4yw
    @Raja-bz4yw Před 4 měsíci +6

    Thank you mentioning that indentured servitude and slavery were not the same. Indentured servitude is wrong on so many levels but it's not the same as slavery especially American slavery. Also fun fact many Irish in indentured servitude helped black slaves escape and some brought their freedom after their contract ended. And many ended up having romantic relationships that allowed their children to be free from slavery. The parent who was enslaved didn't get their freedom all the time though.

    • @StandStrong614
      @StandStrong614 Před 4 měsíci +6

      How is American slavery worse than other slavery? I bet you reeee about slavery constanly here but say nothing about the fact their is more slaves today than any time in recorded history. America fought a war to end slavery so maybe you should focus on the millions of slaves today now.

    • @ko0974
      @ko0974 Před 13 dny

      From the 1600s to late 1800s ot was FORCED indenturship, no contracts, sold and zero rights.

  • @MegaCoffee90
    @MegaCoffee90 Před 4 měsíci

    Let’s see how many white washing happens here for the actual plight of the Irish.

  • @Lukemacleary
    @Lukemacleary Před 4 měsíci

    The Irish: "We just want freedom, and opportunity!"
    Also the Irish: *Rioting over bibles, and invading Canada*