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With Honors is a old movie they went to Harvard what she know about Harvard
Adult men writing feminist teenage girls will never not be cringe 😬
agreed i always see a 60 year old executive saying "how do ya do fellow kids i support current things too gimme munnies"
They just do not have the range, it always screams them trying to be cool and thinking “the kids will love this one!!!” Meanwhile no teen talks like this
Yeah they are like “Pink, high heels, slow dances rainstones and bows. I hate those because I’m feminist
I don't know. I legitimately knew a girl just like this in high school. It was just as painful to watch in person.
characters like mandy are actually so harmful to feminism their actively shaming women for making their own choices (going to prom/ parties) it's infuriating
edit: i ment that she's not relatable like disney thought she would be most teenage girls are feminists and went to prom doing girlie things isn't the problem and nobody talks like she does overal disney flopped this one
Nah they make it very clear what feminism is really all about. YOU might not feel that way but plenty of your homies do and the way woke sjw politics works is the squeakiest wheel gets the grease. You opened Pandora's box, don't whine when it blows up in your faces.
@george rafa are you using a scripted teens movie as proof that feminism is bad? 😂
*they're :)
And I agree
The fact that Disney cancelled the owl house just because two girls were blushing at each other but let that p in a v joke slide is absolutely infuriating
And he said it TWICE
@Tuesday Grey TWICE 😭😭
Technically it's a Disney + movie that premiered on Disney Channel too a couple days after
They censored it on Disney channel
disney did not cancel toh bc of lgbtqia
“Do you get this character’s personality yet?!”
She’s an insufferable bish?
A total wet blanket?
Completely unlikable?
A Not Like Other Girls cliche?😱
No I don’t. The writing was way too subtle.
Unlikable to you maybe.
@Another Wanda Stan well she seems to be unlikable to most of the people in this comment section.
@Draconicus Oh wait yeah i hate her i thought this was under a different video. Yes i agree shes the worst character i replied to the wrong video
@Another Wanda Stan💀
@Another Wanda Stan💀
Mandy is actually a very realistic pick me girl. She hates anything to do with what others are involved in until she finds out she likes it, and then it’s not a big deal. She’s a “feminist” who doesn’t know how to use a power tool and hates most things guys do until she likes a guy and then it’s not a big deal anymore 😂
Edit: y’all are still arguing on my post oh my gosh 😂💀
“A feminist that doesn’t know how to use a power tool” and so??? what’s the point of you pointing that out cuz it doesn’t have correlation whatsoever.. you can be a feminist without knowing how those tools work
@tofusuns I guess I mean that most modern feminists talk down to men and treat them as less but they don’t know how to do a lot of basic things that are typically “manly” like using power tools. By typically, I mean statistically. And by “modern” I mean the ones of today. Feminism wasn’t about hating on men back then, that’s why I put the word in quotations. Because the “feminists” I see today are basically just whiny brats who hate men
@Kelsey Baloney And how many "feminists" have you actually met then? Because I can tell you that it still isn't about "hating men" unless you delve into places like the manosphere.
Do a lot of modern men know how to use/typical "manly stuff" either? Do they need to? What are the statistics on that?
@tofusuns No.... "a 'feminist' who doesn't know how to use a power tool." Just saying, if you're going to use quotation marks, please make sure you recognize where they're located in your quotes.
THANK YOU! This is an actual pick me girl, not a girl who taps into her own personal brand of femininity.
Kinda bugs me how for someone smart enough to apply to Harvard, not once did she think about getting a letter of recommendation until she got waitlisted..
Like is it not common knowledge to get one when applying literally ANYWHERE?
For me, at least, it was literally required. The best schools don't accept you unless you have at least two letters of recommendation.
Not all schools require the same criteria
Also the letter of recommendation only works in Harvard because grahams father is from Harvard
It wouldn’t work for Princeton
i find it unrealistic because on common-app (the program most american teens use to apply to colleges) literally requires two letters of recommendation so everyone that applies to college in this country knows that they're highly valuable except disney i guess
The writers honestly don’t think through how college admissions actually work. The letter of recommendation was just a plot device to get her to meet her potential love interest. The writers who thought of this probably applied to college years ago and have no idea how weird it was that they wrote the story the way they did.
I'm really tired of female lead characters like this who end up being the worst character but have the audacity to spend the entire film criticizing everyone else.
Did you.. watch the film? that's Mandy's entire character flaw and the moment she realized that, she actually had some decent character development
Yeah I dislike characters like that too where the female protagonist who has the “not like other girls” personality, tries to reach a goal and antagonizes everyone in her way. They’re so terribly written as protagonists, but I’ve seen worse.
*Looks over to Velma*
@CherryLee HartLeybut did she really get punished for those flaws or fail upwards
Gaslight, Gate keep, ✨Girlboss✨
I really love the idea of having a teen show that asks the question “maybe I’ve wasted my teenage life pretending I’m better than everyone else?” I think it’s such an interesting and adult concept and I thought it was really interesting to see in this movie
a good modern example of this is booksmart
Booksmart did it much better
Except the characters didn’t learn anything in this movie lmao
Except when it’s a movie you’ve seen 100 times like this one.
Honestly I am so glad I have been changing my own attitude on this and it’s just so freeing to have fun
as a feminist and a woman, this was an excruciating watch
Agreed!
Honestly this is what modern feminism has become. It’s why I can’t identity with the modern feminist movement, even as a woman in a prestigious career. It’s way too extreme nowadays.
@abby burke literally no one is like this. this is how you know it was written by old men
Ben should've apologized for rejecting LaToya, or even Mandy could've had a girl-to-girl moment with LaToya and explained their prom pact but that they're just friends and she should still go after Ben.
I know, I feel so bad for LaToya
Ben deserves a better BFF tbh
Fr Latoya deserved a better apology and Ben deserved a better friend. But at least Mandy sort of makes up for it and does help him and Latoya get back together again.
I don't know why I got the feeling that Ben actually liked Mandy which is why he doesn't invite LaToya for waffles but idkk
Latoya really got the short end of the stick through held the movie. Has one good night, gets the most awkward conversation ever, then gets bailed on and left with the check. Comes back and gets rejected to prom.
In my head after Ben yells at Mandy he runs back to Latoya and apologizes
I wanted to see Mandy to talk to Latoya, I thought she would after Ben got mad at her
@tfola yea but Mandy’s kinda self centered
@bonita kourtney yes I know, I thought talking to Latoya would be a good start for her redeeming arc but instead Latoya forgave Ben just by him saying I want to kiss her now is bit sudden
@Victoria Mahngo that’s what I was hoping would happen.
I would love to see a teen movie navigate themes of "Don't dislike stuff just because it's popular", and "don't waste your teen years judging everyone else", and of course "getting into your dream college is not actually the be-all-end-all". If only this movie had explored any of that.
Exactly! I wish they explored Ben's worries that he wasted his high school years judging everyone else and acting like he's better than anyone else!
I don't think I've ever hated a character more than I hate Mandy. Her judgmental, SJW, "I'm not like other girls" personality is beyond unbearable.
Velma would like to have a word
I bet that's why Harvard didn't want her lmaoo
Oh thank goodness, it's not just me
Are we still using SJW as an insult after 2016?
Thank you, my friend and I watched this movie and thought she was completely insufferable. 😭
Two popular movies.
Legally blonde and Mean girls. Both the many leads were polar opposites. One that loved all things pretty and pink, the other a total tom boy, they try to change who they are but realized that won't make them happy and go back to what they like. Both characters are strong female leads! Why does Hollywood seriously think that THIS female lead character in this movie would make me feel a connection to her? The whole review I thought, no wonder you only have one friend! Why would I wanna be around someone that is so bitter about everything!
legally blonde is so wonderful the fact that it had a feminine woman being shown in a good light and not stupid and she didn't have to change herself to do well is so amazing and inspiring
I agree with you, no way I could have a connection with Mandy, she is not relatable at all
I would argue that Cady isn’t a “total tomboy”, she’s just kinda an average girl who acts like an average girl and wears average girl clothes. But otherwise, yeah, you’re absolutely correct.
Elle is such a role model. Literally all she has to do is actually try for once. It wasn’t just about proving others wrong. She had to prove to herself that she could be more than her hair and boobs, and that doing so was actually worth it.
Look, I'm a feminist vegetarian, but DEAR LORD if I had to listen to Mandy talk for one more minute I was going to explore 😭
Also, the fact she was volunteering just because it looked good on her application 💀
As a feminist vegetarian... nothing wrong with volunteering because it looks good on an application, that's normal af xD
Volunteering cuz it looks good on your application is a normal thing you know
That’s like the reason 90% of people volunteer
@craigyeah1052 bro it actually is the worst… a teen in my town started a “nonprofit” to “help the homeless” but she literally just took photos with homeless people on one food run and then her parents hired people to run it.
At this point Disney is just trying to make me hate them. Every girl character now is so quirky and basically shames anyone who goes out and parties and things like that. The Mandy girl criticizes EVERYTHING that’s not Harvard or school related. Can we just have a like yk… a movie when the girl isn’t a complete and total pick me…?
Not just Disney it every iteration of girlboss movies/shows
The female ghost busters ❌
Star Wars with rey ❌
Velma ❌
@Ducky Momo starwars was owned by disney before they had Rey
@Ducky MomoThankfully, The Owl House is a good exception. The couple in the movie, Luz and Amity, are both very strong female leads, with Luz leaning more towards genderqueer.
Basically, both characters are not pick me’s because they are just strong as hell, they don’t need to be focused on it at all.
From how this looks I feel like this ending is pretty sweet and I especially love how Ben isn't secretly in love with Mandy and they really are just friends. As a girl whose three closest friends include a guy who's not in love with any of the rest of us at all it's really nice to see friendships being appreciated and not dismissed like they usually are. The one complaint I have is that Mindy seems INSUFFERABLE.
mandy doesn't deserve that harvard application
Finally, the childhood best friends could be best friends and not become romantically involved!!
Gonna give credits where credits due🙌
@Angeline Bena VERY FEW credits but we gotta give them indeed
you know...going to prom with platonic friends is an extremely normal thing. I don't understand why they had to make an entire movie about it
Yeah I went to my prom with my friend group. And I had a great time. It’s not that big of a deal.
We’re you all stalked by a masked killer?
@Freddie Adams That is a classic spam.
exactly
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It’s crazy the entirety of the events of this movie is “Mandy is a bad friend and emotionally manipulates a guy just for it to be completely pointless”
So basically a worse version of the Diary of a Wimpy Kid movies?
The kid who played Graham is named Blake Draper. I went to Primary school with him and he was in my year level. He's a fairly new actor to the game. So I almost had a mini heart attack when i saw his face pop up on my screen. This is the weirdest feeling watching someone i know act in a movie.
That’s awesome!
must be scary 😮
@Joshua Gagba not scary just weird
That's cool asf bro
Wow
Calling Prom a Social patriarchy is one way to tell everyone you're not getting a date 💀
Can I just say Alex’s reaction at 14:55 is the most realistic way I react to secondhand embarrassment during movies/shows
The cringe at that awkward silence is overwhelming lol.
Oh my gosh same. I literally cover my face or ears or both because I'm like no it's so awkward I CAN'T -what are you DOING??!!
the "P in a V" is insane for a Disney Channel movie💀
Its not a Disney Channel movie, its Dismey Plus and when they aired it on Disney channel it was a censored version
I’m scared
lets all remember that none of this would have happened if the guidance counselor just gave Mandy some competent goddamn advice
You know this screams KIssing Booth
To be fair she tried to, but Mandy wouldn't listen
Yep, why must all adults be portrayed as laughably incompetent in teen movies?!
I'm not sure they're allowed to tell kids they can't do something these days.
Technically the guidance counselor tried to say to get a letter of recommendation from a teacher or herself and told her not to do what Mandy did anyway😅
I can kinda relate to Ben. I was the "emo, anti- anything popular, class skipping, everything & everyone is lame" and near end of highschool I realized how immature & shitty I was purposely making school for myself.
I can relate to that too😢
@Angeline Bena yeah same it sucks i peaked in middle school and im doing better im hugh school
I’m so glad to see other people acknowledge how insufferable the main character was. I thought I was alone for a second! I was really glad to see a platonic friendship though that was very refreshing.
Back in my day, Disney movies were about villains with dyed hair, ZOMBIES and aliens with dyed hair, and villains, heroes, zombies, werewolves, aliens, and humans singing musical numbers together
God Disney channel movies have gotten so bad.
Well they still do that, Zombies movie says hi
Zombies isn't even that old, wdym "Back in my day 🤓"
As someone who witnessed the premiere of Lilo and Stitch (2002), this comment makes me feel ancient
Even ZOMBIES had a weird racism allegory.
At 14:50 , I literally don't think I've ever laughed harder at an Alex Meyers video. The sounds of Alex just dying of cringe/2nd hand embarrassment is so freaking funny🤣😂
I've always wondered why these Harvard enthusiast characters never apply to any other of the Ivy league schools. Do they not realise that whatever major they would have picked, they would be learning the same material? Just a different location.
Easy Harvard spends tons of money into marketing to keep their name in the public conscious. So everyone thinking that anything less than Harvard or Yale is less than the best.
“BuT HaRvArD iS tHe BeST!”
Whenever any movie starts doing the “sexism bad I’m gonna prove it by constantly pointing out how men suck” thing I lose braincells, yet Mandy was somehow so bad she made me lose my entire brain.
Agreed. But counterpoint: How good of a man is Graham in the end for ignoring all of that and still indicating a liking for her in the end? Don't forget one of the worst causes of women being brats is the girl worshipping guys that support it. And I'm not even saying that sexism isn't problem. It's a major one but for both and can't be solved by one or the other.
Exactly
What a coincidence! I found a brain last Tuesday while it was raining cats and dogs. Good thing, too, before that hurricane came on Thursday. It's on the lost and found in your local Target.
To be fair, the version that aired on Disney channel was edited to be much more child appropriate than the one that's on Disney plus 😂
Does it still have the p in a v part??
@HappySunny01Last time I checked, no.
@Stuck at the Valley it would be even more amazing if they released the g rated version on DVD. I feel like other Disney channel films went through this same treatment, because we never know what the original could be. There might be versions of the films that have inappropriate themes in it.
The thing that frustrates me about characters like Mandy is that it takes away from real, actual social issues. I'm about as far left as they come, and I despise characters like that. They’re annoying and exhausting and they aren’t helping anyone change their mind or bring awareness. Instead, they make it easy, even morally right, to dismiss these issues. The annoying socially conscience girl is now one of writers' favourite character flaws to write for women lately, as if twitter was their only source for seeing what teen girls are like these days.
Characters like Mandy mellow by the end of the movie (good!) by caring less about those issues or even doing an about-turn by the end (not so good). I wish they would instead realise that the way they're going about it is counterproductive and find actual constructive ways to fight for their rights instead. Society has real-life battles its fighting for equality, and these depictions are damaging.
Yes, there are people like that out there, and they’re pretty universally hated by everyone no matter political views.
Exactly! Couldn't have said it better
"You know Amy, whenever someone brings up the 'breaking of gender roles', it underminds gender equality by saying that this is an exception and not the status que"
- Knuckles
I will say its nice that she wants to go to a specific college in the movie and actually goes to that specific college for once. So often in these movies, you have characters throw away something they've been working towards their whole live at the last minute because it "isnt what they really wanted" which can sometimes be a nice lesson but sometimes its not.
As someone who never had a prom because of covid and also never had any dream school and just picked a random one.... the concepts of these movies are always so TIRED lol
I think its actually smart how they characterized her as this annoying person with all the stereotypes we are familiar with so that she'll learn throughout the film that she's wrong and grow.
A Disney movie talking about underage drinking and sex? Last time I watched anything on there girls couldn’t even wear crop tops 😂
Or cartoon characters spin the bottle
@yoyoyoyoyo they could eat the background characters alive though!
@Puke! princess! And have a flying Dorito take out a deers teeth and relocate the face of a rich dude
It cause it's not Disney channel
Wow, Ben gets a really raw deal in this story, pushes his life to the side to help his friend achieve her goals, screwing up his chances with the girl he likes, and doesn't even get anything to make up for it in the end, just to find out that the entire scheme was unnecessary the entire time.
I honestly liked that Disney went towards more kid content. They can still have subtle adult jokes for older kids and parents. Kids don’t get enough actually kid friendly content that isn’t promoting awful behavior or delaying their brain development XD
i wouldnt say "putting your p in a v" is a very subtle adult joke tho lmao
P.into a V? This movie isn't for kids my dude. That joke is pretty explicit.
@Cecilia Berns I saw on CZcams that there’s actually two versions of this movie. One that aired on Disney channel doesn’t have those adult jokes “drinking” “p in v” etc, he likely watched this on Disney + where it keeps this adult dialogue. There’s two versions of this film
Mandy's friend 5 years from now will be like, "Why was I ever friends with her?"
Also, remember that joke about how Disney always clones their tv stars? Mandy straight up looks like a Demi Lavato mixed with Brenda Song clone, and Grahm looks like one of the Zack and Cody twins mixed with Zac Efron clone.
16:39 My least favourite modern movie trope is scenes written by 40+ year olds in which _kids these days_ record their classmates (in extremely high quality) having plot relevant arguments and it "goes viral" in the school, revealing sHocKiNg information to another character. Are we sure that this movie didn't accidentally come out on the wrong platform?
That was literally my thought! Like why do they always spill everything in public where someone happens to film them
Hey! Take it easy on us 40 year olds! Believe me Niamh....I was just living my life...and them boom! One day I was 15. I kept on living my life and then five seconds later I was 25! Went on living life again and now boom! 3 seconds after being 25, I am now almost 40. I don't know how it happened! Yesterday I was 15!......But, seriously all jokes aside okay? I know I have no idea what is cool and what isn't. The 40+ Year olds need to actually talk to some kids about the lingo and the actions that are going on right now. Just remember though. You too are going to be just bopping along living your life and one day "5 seconds are going to pass" and you are going to be 40 as well. Take it easy on us. We arn't young - we know that but, we also arn't "old" - even though 40 seems old to you. We are doing our best to not wear Forever 21 but we arn't ready for the granny moomoo yet either. Middle age is rough and from what I hear it only gets worse from here on in. Take pity on us!
@Hello it's Aimee! Hehe:). I don't consider 40 to be "old" yet either, I just typed that because people in their 30's are more likely to have grown up around the time when mobile phones were becoming common and therefore understand what kind of scenes involving phones are farfetched.
I find it so interesting to watch how prom is portrayed in media, especially since my experience was in 2021 before I graduated; it was just a bunch of people who were happy to see each other because we were in full lockdown during the whole school year XD
The stuff Mandy says is a great example on how NOT to teach people about sexism. You can't just cram lessons about sexism into places where they don't fit and expect them to seem right. Put it in a context where it makes sense! If anything, it feels like they're making fun of people who fight sexism.
I agree with your last sentence lmao like this has the energy of most Disney movies in that its a caricature of how teens act. In the same way teens were never like "OMG THAT WAS LIKE SO TOTES AWESOME! BRB" in real life. Now theyre trying to portray a "woke" teenage girl but the writers are clearly at least 30 to 40 years old and have no idea how teens act so they just throw buzzwords around hoping the woke teens will love it
Funny thing is I’ve never actually seen anybody in real life outside of Twitter unironically speak like this, it’s just on tv and on social media
@Ks that’s because nobody irl speaks like this 😭
IM SAYING they definitely did that with mandy on purpose
I agree with you totally! It feels like a mockery of feminism and it is a very limited type of feminism (people have to think that women have studied the systemic plight of women while accounting for every type of thing - race, class, colonial histories, environmentalism, lesbianism).
It's like the writers genuinely wanted to say feminists are annoying, silly and dumb. Thanks
unpopular opinion: i actually really enjoyed this movie! yes, the writing was very cringe at parts, but it’s disney so i can try to excuse that. (the “name an 80’z movie that’s not sexist” scene and other parts like that really bothered me though. yes, these conversations are important but it felt so forced and random and had nothing to do w the movie) overall the story was pretty engaging and like somebody else said, i love to see a platonic relationship between a boy and girl without forcing the guy to be gay.
Alex, I'm old also enough to remember how different Disney Channel movies were back in the late 90s and early 2000s. Disney Channel was still in its Zoog Disney era and it was slowly transitioning out of being a family-aimed channel. Disney Channel did have a few movies that had mature moments or addresses serious topics before (like the ones you mentioned at 18:31) that would normally never happen again in modern DCOMs.
You also probably forgot how the original Under Wraps movie had a scene where the girl tells her (male) friends that she doesn't wear pajamas but goes to sleep in the buf and caused one boy to crash his bike. If you thought that part was crazy, Diane Keaton was also in a 90s Disney Channel movie that I remember called Northern Lights where her character CONSTANTLY SMOKES. The plot also deals with the death of her brother (that was actually shown on screen like with the beginning of Suzie Q!) and her nephew's mother was revealed to be mentally ill. So, yeah, Prom Pact almost feels like an older DCOM from the 90s-early 2000s.
If her counselor couldve written her a recommendation letter that would get her in why didnt she do it to begin with 🙄🙄🙄
I was kinda shocked by the more mature bits in this movie but I also think it’s kind of a welcome change. I’m 20 but thinking back to when I was in like middle school, there were only a limited number of shows and movies I could relate to so I just ended up watching either Disney channel shows bc that’s what I watched when I was younger and it was somewhat comforting even though I didn’t really find them all that funny or entertaining anymore, or I’d watch shows made for adults that I also couldn’t relate to even if I liked the storyline. All this to say that I think that’s who Disney is targeting with this, it’s a little too mature for kids under like 11 or 12 but teens would just make fun of it. It’s the exact amount of cringe for the 12-14 year old demographic and imo they’re probably a little content starved bc I know I was when I was their age. Maybe I’m wrong but I would have eaten this shit up
I love that fact that Milo goes to a 80's themed prom. Then he plays a kid who died in the 80's 😂
Right lol
Can we get a teen movie where the main character is not an overachieving girl who hates feminine things and men and her only goal in life is college? No? 😂😂
Also, I was SHOCKED to see that this movie was played on Disney Channel!
@Silver VR no 😂 mostly bc I’m not sure which part you’re referring to
that movie exists its To all the boys I've loved before
But I get what you mean I'm pretty sick of these one note characterizations of not like other girls (which is basically every girl in movies lol)
@Silver VR so… basically everything I said? 😂 I wasn’t sure if you were a bot or something since I see you commented that on a lot of comments haha
@Tam4iAngel ohh I forgot that one! I haven’t watched it, but it looks good from the reviews I’ve watched
And that is why Legally Blond is still iconic.
I always love how Alex will go on for like 20 minutes breaking apart a movie and then his end conclusion is “but despite everything I still like it LMAO”
I hate when tv shows try so hard to create ‘woke’ characters but they end up just being incredibly critical, unlikeable selfish people.
jee its almost like its based on real life. well mainly the left side.
sorry but NGL people like that exist.
Literally just sends the message that all these "angry women" need is a man to treat her right and she'll forget all this nonsense about mistreatment and double standards. But if they REALLY cared they would treat the "good guys" better.
Man those early 2000s DCOMs will always have a special place in my heart. They would always be on around 12 or 1am so id fall asleep to them. Just on the list he showed from 2000 are some of my favorites. Time sure does fly
I feel like Mandy is the type of person that says, "I'm not like the other girls"
Okay I’m genuinely shocked they made a recurring sex joke in a disney movie lmao, disney’s going places thats for sure. The right places, that’s debateable.
watch anything made by nickelodeon in the mid 2000s, or anything by disney from the early 2000s. lmao i didn’t realize we were turning puritanical again and shielding healthy “sex” education from people
@hvnz g8 bro nick never made jokes about putting p's in v's 💀
@Mcflurry that line isn't in the broadcast cut of the movie disney+ carries the uncensored version of the film. The Disney+ version has a 14 rating while the broadcast version has a PG raiting and many scenes are either cut or redubbed
@Baylor Diamond really? That's interesting to know, 2 versions of the film.
Yeah, It doesn’t even seem like a Disney channel movie. has woke agenda, feminism, political ideologies, sex jokes, underage drinking and drugs. There is absolutely no way this is disney channel, it cant be!!! But then again my disney channel days were during thats so raven zack and cody wizards of waverly place Halloween town, ect. So I guess its just a different generation however no way in hell when i have children will i allow my kids to watch this new “disney channel” . Its a shame what kids are watching now.
why is it a common thing in these kinds of movies for the main character to be completely unlikable and undeserving of anything, but yet they always get the happy ending and the guy (or girl) in the end too? there’s like no real learning achieved in these types of films
Because it's a fantasy by the writer(s), who are also appealing to a similar audience, that they can be a completely inhumane piece of shit and still get everything they wanted out of life. I'd love to see a movie where a Mandi-esque character just gets completely shit on by the world and gets the comeuppance they wish onto others for the sin of "being different than me."
Honestly the best thing about this movie is that unlike other modern Disney channel movies it doesn’t feel overly sanitized I like that they’re finally starting to try and break free from the overly kiddy stuff and make stuff that actually appeals to all ages again
Yeah the sex joke REALLY surprised me for a Disney movie
“Has your p ever been in a v??” Peak writing right there.
@Keira a joke like that would never fly on late 2000s and 2010s Disney channel
I’m an English major going on my 4th year of college and I have learned how to and how not to write characters. One of the most important things I was taught is how to observe people. They told me stories who don’t seem realistic don’t get published, but so many teenage movies/shows are so awkward and unrealistic lol
I really found this movie refreshing, it was a lot of fun, I loved the directing style, the color palette is really nice, the worlds built well the chemistry between the main characters was really watchable. I think it had some uniqueness whilst having a predictable ending plot. I thought having all the prom proposals in the background was really cleaver. The dialogue could be sort of cringey but it worked for the style of film overall the quality was much higher than I expected.
Oh gosh the "Get laid in HS, or you're a nerd," trope. I'm pretty sure everyone knows not having sex in highschool is normal, and the people that talked the most about sex either didn't have any themselves.
This is not a Disney Channel movie. I am convinced executives stole this from Netflix and no one said anything because Netflix has so many scripts like this they simply lost count.
The broke into Netflix HQ, I swear
It said a disney channel original movie. Which is shocking
I mean it does have Disney actors so they probably just stole the script if anything
@The Movie Critic well high school musical is litterally grease 3
@Baylor Diamond Yeah I know, pretty obvious
what i really liked about this movie was that ben and mandy having any kind of romantic feelings for each other was not a thing at all, quite refreshing
This main character is impossible to root for, and this type of lead isn’t impossible to like. Sabrina Carpenters character in “work it” was very similar except for the fact that she wasn’t completely irredeemable
My personal headcanon is that Graham actually mailed the letter after she gave it back to him. Kept waiting for that to be the reveal and it never came lol
Overall though, I think the movie had a lot of good laughs; it’s fun and light-hearted and I enjoyed it without taking it too seriously
I think Booksmart (2019) is the movie with the most similar premise to this one (two overachieving misfits / inseparable friends try to blend in with everyone else at the very end of high school). I think I prefer Booksmart but this movie is a worthy addition to the genre
the amount of second hand embarassment this movie produced in me even just through this video is awe inspiring
At least the best friends stayed platonic by the end, which is a great way to subvert expectations. There should be more guy/girl friendships on screen!
There is ducky and whatever Molly Ringwalds character was called. And whatever you think of that movie at least kissing booth had a decent platonic relationship too. Agreed though! Normalize heterosexual friendship!
Listening to this girl complaining about the patriarchy nonstop is annoying just in this little video. Imagine having to live with this girl in reality. It would be headache inducing
@DontReadMyUserPic Okay, I won't
@Rossm3838 Avoid people like that in real life to trust me they are annoying.
Exactly, 100 percent agree.
I just love how i watch these videos without actually watching the shows or even knowing they exist. I just love how you explain them with making fun of them. Just perfect😅🤣
This is a great example of how adult themes and suggestive content doesn't automatically make a movie more adult. It actually makes it seem way more immature.
Crazy to see how much effort people can put into a PROMposal. I will never get an actual proposal
Me and my best friend were so excited to watch this together when it came out because of how stupid it sounded. I waited to watch this video because I wanted to be completely surprised when I watched it with her.
Goes to say we never watched it. We haven't even really talked in almost two months. I really miss her, especially since we go to different schools. If you see this K, hmu, I'm still willing to watch the movie lol.
The thing with characters like Mandy is that they act like they are better than everyone else because they don't do things "other girls" do
The fact that they are teaching kids that high school is the peak of your life is just sad. And they've been teaching this for at least 3 or 4 generations
Ikr. Your time in high school, you're still developing. You're definitely not at your peak. My life blossomed as soon as i left college and started being more and more independent. Adulthood is the peak, not during high school years.
how can a time where you still live under one's authority (school and parents) and have grades to wrry about be the best time of your life? have these people heard of their 20s? being in control of your life will always be better than being a kid. but some ppl think otherwise cuz they are too scared to make their own dr's appointments. its ridiculous
I've been out of high school for 4 years and it's been hell. High School wasn't perfect but it was worse after. My friends are gone, and Covid made me realize how shitty people I trusted really are.
THIS! And then it makes school even worse when you realize it’s not…
yap 100% agree.
this and the fact these movies have literally been the cause of the recent generations' obsession with "losing virginity" in high school. all these teen movies written by adults about how 16 and 17 year olds are so embarrassed about not "hooking up" yet, and being scared to move on from high school "inexperienced" is so fucked up. really not the lessons we should be teaching anyone...
I never got over the shock that she was trying to get into Harvard. That literally never happens. People want to go to Harvard?
this actually feels like a nice movie?? recently disney channel has been making movies mostly for literal 6 year olds, but this movie feels like it was actually made for young teens, and i really enjoy that
7:45 there is NO WAY someone wrote that as a line and thought it was a good idea. I felt my stomach come out of my mouth after hearing that 😂
Your videos are getting much better and better 😂 I cannot believe how much Disney films have changed 😅
Your videos are such gold comedy. Much much better than the movies you review! Who is your animator? The drawings with that voice over are so friggin hilarious.
The minute Mandy started talking about how Prom-posals are stupid, even if I never went to my prom, HATED the idea of it, let people have fun. Quit being a sourpuss my gods.
Not gonna lie it sounds stupid the fact we found an abbreviation for such a question most took for granted anyway
Prom-posals are stupid thought. About the same cringe level as public proposals. And dont take me wrong here, i wont say anything against anyone liking those. I will most possibly shudder and facepalm behind their backs thought.
explain the pfp
@nora mine? It's just a picture I had drawn years ago.
Feminists
I am genuinely concerned that this is a Disney movie. There are so many sex and substance abuse references it's disturbing children of all ages will be able to watch this without their parents knowing what they're absorbing on a channel for children.
8:35 Alex, I was literally thinking that, at that exact moment, as a woman who hates "duh paytreearchy" she's awfully hung up on Harvard, which is established as the gateway to the establishment. Dang!
The most realistic part of the movie was the school councilor giving terrible advice and then acting like it was the main character's fault for not already having everything figured out lol
Besides the fact you know it didn’t say she wasn’t accepted to Harvard it said she was waitlisted meaning she was out in a wait list for the foreseeable future while they review the idk millions of applicants and is farther into being accepted than what it said she was earlier lmao
I feel bad for Ben. Mandy just got her happy ending and learned nothing.
OK but like how are prom proposals misogynistic and a part of the patriarchy??…. OH WAIT they’re not💀💀
Decided to consider the sociopolitical implications of a "promposal" on a lark. Perhaps the idea is that because there's an expectation of guys asking girls out for prom, Mandy's suggesting that the girls being asked out are seen as prizes to be won over while the guys doing the asking out are having their social standing decided by whether or not they can succeed at finding a partner for the local promenade?...
Obviously though, I think the actual answer is that the writers don't know how to write for a feminist character, and had her spout random buzzwords that don't connect with each other at the start of the movie to showcase her eventual turnaround by the end of the movie.
The only good points about prom was whe she pointed out the way the guys didn't even care enough to do a promposal that was based on their girlfriends liking
It would be great if prom wasn't about going with a date at all.
They are though.
because it's romantic and being romantic is a total girly girl non-feministic move
I, unironically, LOVE Two Dots lol. It’s one of my “airplane games”, but I have been playing it for years. Really love the music, too.
Haven’t seen this movie, but very perplexed on the story and to being (refreshingly) adult.
“Promposals are literally just another example of the patriarchy opposing their dominance over women”
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Not Disknee in their ‘woke feminist’ era 😍😍
That grocery store scene is ridiculous for Disney. If my 8 y/o was watching that ON DISNEY CHANNEL, I'd be big pissed at Disney
Two Dots actually is kinda fun. Winning/3 star potential is kinda RNG based sometimes. I don’t tend to do the extra modes, it feels like there’s a lot going on. But the base game is pretty fun
your animation evolving is keeping your channel alive my man! 100% appreciation for the quality bro💯
i think this movie is quite better than most disney movies because they kept a platonic relationship platonic without making one of them gay .
Agreed, Disney has a habit of pairing their leads together, so it's great to see them subvert expectations.
@Trina Q Please do not ever say "subvert expectations" again I had flashbacks of Arya Stark stabbing the night king just by reading it😪
Fr these days the main characters get together or one is over the top high voice always wearing a long tacky librarian skirt gay. Idc if ur gay or whatnot but Disney’s always trying to be woke 😭
that second part is literally irrelevant to anything, no idea why you had to sneak that in there
@CherryLee HartLey not really,Disney has a history of doing it sometimes,I don’t have anything wrong with it in my opinion it’s good rep but like at the same time it gets predictable slash repetitive to the point where it doesn’t seem genuine and it makes it seem more like they just snuck it in there to seem/feel good about themselves
I love how these movies are always about horrible people being rewarded.
This seems like a nice movie to watch, it could be painfully relatable in my highschool years, but now it would be just depressingly funny. Maybe I would give it a shot someday, but knowing that the MC befriends a popular cool and handsome guy who has a deep gentle personality, gives me my darkest flashbacks... At least Mandy had a "good ending" with that dude, I'd be happy for her.
I LOVED Phantom of the Megaplex... I know, random since you just mentioned it in passing but it was one of the best DCOMs!
Also I cannot believe they actually did P in a V in a Dcom... its more like what actual teens talk about but not like its scripted lol
This is my first time actually watching one of your videos and I couldn't stop laughing at your little animations especially the reaction you had for her not getting into Harvard 🤣😂
OH ALSO- the reason for the turn in the 2010s was quite literally the creation of the “tween” category, it’s a very recent invention, literally created by the founder of justice when he realized 10-13 year old girls just followed the fads of older teens, and created a store that fit that untapped market, basically kids clothing that emulates teen “culture” and the same happened for media
Honestly I was definitely expecting Mandy and Ben to fall in love with each other with a classic love triangle thing looking at the poster but I was mildly impressed they stayed best friends till the end
yeah, i think thats cool too! i just hope it *stays* that way cause the end probably set it up for a sequel 😭😭
I wanted them to fall in love.
@Kaitlyn Morgan What would the sequel be about? College prom?
i hate how in movies like this the mc always ditches the much better best friend just to go for the new guy she barely knows. like come onn
@f That's real life, buddy. :(
Surprised me but I'm also kinda happy! I feel like good rom-coms have been lacking lately! I always end up re-watching older ones.
Thank you Alex for suffering through this mess for our sakes.