9:23 dayton rims aren't split rims, dayton rims mount to cast spoke hubs. Split rims have been available in both dayton and budd (stud pilot) truck wheels. Alot of off road equipment have multi piece wheels. The most dangerous "split" rims were the ones that split in the center (2 piece) not the style with the lock rings.
Nokian Hakkapeliitta? If I am correct it should be pronounced with the "a" similar to "u" in Huckerby. And "ii" as "ee". So perhaps more like Huckupeleettu. Very good wintertires, usually among the top car wintertires in the annual tests done here in Northern Europe.
Sheww watching him hit that split ring gave me the Willy’s!! I worked at a truck stop years and years ago.. had one of these blow out on me!! Thank GOD we used cages back then. The air was all that hurt me.. ripped my work pants and blew a bunch of dirt under my skin.. but I was thankful. When this truck stop first opened in the 60’s.. a worker was decapitated by a split rim.. If you don’t know what you’re doing, they can and WILL kill you.. Stay blessed @Stan !!
3:45...the grip...the amount and length of the rippled cuts in each lug are your grippers as you skid or slide those slashes open up creating another biting edge on the surface you want 5 per lug to be a good snow tire, your tread also has to vent snow and slush out and away from the center of the wheel to both edges. those lug slashes are like hockey blades...not literally hockey blades which contact thru ice with grip like nothing else i can immediately think of. but like i said each new edge you put down puts more bite grip on the down force and stays there until the center of weight is passed and the slash starts to go back to it's closed vertical position, think of it like a flap disc...and actually those would be the best tire, on ice, flapped edges as lugs. so another crucial think about those slashes on the lugs is they trap particulates like sand in them, sand a rubber and weight ontop....💯 that's bonus grip. i first noticed that when i slapped on some cooper discover HT's in the early 2000s when they had the great 5 slashes in the lugs and a center line bead. the tires i run now are General arctic grabber...just look at the treads of those two you will start to see the pattern reveal why it has great traction when you look at blizzaks and i forgot the other great snow tire that's like these 3
We run 20.5 by 25 radial snoplus by Michelin . They came on a loader we bought used they are awesome. I have since purchased multiple sets in 20.5 and 23.5 they are pricey but if you need to run the machine down the road and you are looking for a great gripping tire they are the tire tread to buy. There are multiple different companies that make that tread design and all work well. The only thing is you really need to change the tire once you start working off road after winter.
Ran triangle Triangle TB596 20.5x25s on the loaders this year for snow. Definitely not as good as the Nokians or Michelins, but I was able to get 8 tires for the price of 2 Michelin snow pluses and they were game changers compared to dirt tires with screw in studs.
I have the Nokian tires on my JD 4066, and they have been a great performer! I wanted to see how good they are on snow/ice, and I've yet to find a reason to use four-wheel drive, even while clearing out driveways. I've been on flat and inclines with them. Steering is really good as well on snow filled roads.
We run those year round on our Volvo loader. Never in a pit or an excavating job, they are awful in the dirt which is expected with a snow tire. But for plowing snow and doing road maintenance they are awesome. We haven’t noticed any severe wear or anything running them in the summer. They are holding up good.
Hey Stan I hope you get more snow too I'd love to see those hackapolita working. I don't know how to spell it though. But I live in Canada and I use them 45 years ago and they were great.
Hakkapelutis? 😂 I’ve been driving Hakkapelittas on my cars for at least 20 years and there’s only the swedish Gislaved that comes close to this. And I need the grip here in the north of Sweden.
Almost into April and little snow. May have to wait for snow plow videos next winter. Even here was a couple of inches and no more. Last year was a whole different story. Winter from hell.
I have these tires on a new JD 4075 and they are the best option for mostly asphalt and dirt road over Ag or Industrial. They are also not too bad on turf where will tear a bit but don't leave half the mess the other tires do this time of year.
Love Nokian ice tires. Run studs all winter. The wife won't drive without them. That's saying a lot. She was a very, very tough sell to try the first ones. Thanks Stan.
I think its the footprint for sure! At tha same time, i think there made for working conditions at load rate! Not high speed. If you do have speeds over 15 for a distance to and from i dont see the tire holding up i see it as a recaped! Softer sole on turns with a bucket full i see this tread breaking in chunks on the outer side. Let me know stan . Softer tread makes it roll off its rotation better then a hard tire thus a hard tire will ride more as a lumber wagon.
And final comment. I believe tire science I very common here in Norway, Finland and Sweden. At least for people who live behind the steering wheel. Never know any operator who is not careful with the most effective way to work. fuel and equipment is so important. The Cost of mistakes are what makes you survive
Ran winterfore for 9 years. Had to buy a new set every year. Now i run nokian studs and man 10x better! Also set lasts 3 years. Studs will scratch pavement though if you spin.
It depends a lot on what your facing as to what is the best choice, or the lest compromising. Delivered newspapers for little under 8 years 7nights a week with under 10 sick days (ahh youthful near indestructibility). I've burned through and been burned by just about every type of tire that I could mount. A good winter tire is absolutely beautiful when properly matched to the job, but my newspaper route at 30% loose gravel county road, it is far from "living on hard surfaces," and most true winter tires don't like county road gravel power slides ether, but I and my short wheel base jeep did, so I compromised and got solid snow rated AT's, and carried a set of snow chains that can be put on, in a ditch, without moving the wheel/vehicle, offset diamond pattern and smooth enough to find yourself speed creeping up past 45mph the rated limit for them. Keep them tires out of the gravel/construction like he said, and I bet you will be presently surprised, and they will wear like iron, hell the last set of winter tires my car had dry rotted with 1/2 tread left when a washboard gave the killing blow splitting out the side of my right rear 2 blocks from my house at all of 20mph, tire shop tells me manufacture date was 11 years ago, makes me wonder what some wheel conditioner could have done for them(totally going to look at real world tests of wheel conditioner now >
In the long run wouldn't it be more efficient to have wheels and tires for the winter snow a set of wheels and tires for construction summertime so all you have to do is change out the wheel and tire not have a tire company take them on take them off take them on take them off ?
I love you Stan and I’m happy your trying them but I hate the way pronounce Hakkapeliitta Also in case anyone was unaware this is the same company that used to make Nokia phones they’ve both split in two and been sold off to other companies at this point though
9:23 dayton rims aren't split rims, dayton rims mount to cast spoke hubs.
Split rims have been available in both dayton and budd (stud pilot) truck wheels.
Alot of off road equipment have multi piece wheels.
The most dangerous "split" rims were the ones that split in the center (2 piece) not the style with the lock rings.
get your hoses made at Pirtek Hwy 55 and medicine lake road. it's onsite by the owner, he does great work
Nokian Hakkapeliitta? If I am correct it should be pronounced with the "a" similar to "u" in Huckerby. And "ii" as "ee". So perhaps more like Huckupeleettu. Very good wintertires, usually among the top car wintertires in the annual tests done here in Northern Europe.
Terrain-chains are the most grippy, for stationary jobs on a farm or something, but not suitable for the road.
We use alliance 550 multi use on are 4720 John Deere.
Sheww watching him hit that split ring gave me the Willy’s!! I worked at a truck stop years and years ago.. had one of these blow out on me!! Thank GOD we used cages back then. The air was all that hurt me.. ripped my work pants and blew a bunch of dirt under my skin.. but I was thankful. When this truck stop first opened in the 60’s.. a worker was decapitated by a split rim.. If you don’t know what you’re doing, they can and WILL kill you.. Stay blessed @Stan !!
Good evening Stan! Thanks for the always interesting videos. Keep it up
Thanks man
3:45...the grip...the amount and length of the rippled cuts in each lug are your grippers as you skid or slide those slashes open up creating another biting edge on the surface you want 5 per lug to be a good snow tire, your tread also has to vent snow and slush out and away from the center of the wheel to both edges.
those lug slashes are like hockey blades...not literally hockey blades which contact thru ice with grip like nothing else i can immediately think of. but like i said each new edge you put down puts more bite grip on the down force and stays there until the center of weight is passed and the slash starts to go back to it's closed vertical position, think of it like a flap disc...and actually those would be the best tire, on ice, flapped edges as lugs.
so another crucial think about those slashes on the lugs is they trap particulates like sand in them, sand a rubber and weight ontop....💯 that's bonus grip. i first noticed that when i slapped on some cooper discover HT's in the early 2000s when they had the great 5 slashes in the lugs and a center line bead.
the tires i run now are General arctic grabber...just look at the treads of those two you will start to see the pattern reveal why it has great traction when you look at blizzaks and i forgot the other great snow tire that's like these 3
We run 20.5 by 25 radial snoplus by Michelin . They came on a loader we bought used they are awesome. I have since purchased multiple sets in 20.5 and 23.5 they are pricey but if you need to run the machine down the road and you are looking for a great gripping tire they are the tire tread to buy. There are multiple different companies that make that tread design and all work well. The only thing is you really need to change the tire once you start working off road after winter.
Ran triangle Triangle TB596 20.5x25s on the loaders this year for snow. Definitely not as good as the Nokians or Michelins, but I was able to get 8 tires for the price of 2 Michelin snow pluses and they were game changers compared to dirt tires with screw in studs.
You can’t go wrong with Nokian tires. They make the best tires for anything and whatever application you need for it to perform.
Love it 👊
I have the Nokian tires on my JD 4066, and they have been a great performer! I wanted to see how good they are on snow/ice, and I've yet to find a reason to use four-wheel drive, even while clearing out driveways. I've been on flat and inclines with them. Steering is really good as well on snow filled roads.
Thanks for sharing 👊
We run those year round on our Volvo loader. Never in a pit or an excavating job, they are awful in the dirt which is expected with a snow tire. But for plowing snow and doing road maintenance they are awesome. We haven’t noticed any severe wear or anything running them in the summer. They are holding up good.
Good stuff 👍
Hey Stan I hope you get more snow too I'd love to see those hackapolita working. I don't know how to spell it though. But I live in Canada and I use them 45 years ago and they were great.
I plow with 39” wooden wagon wheels pulled by our donkey
Love it 😂🙌
Hakkapelutis? 😂 I’ve been driving Hakkapelittas on my cars for at least 20 years and there’s only the swedish Gislaved that comes close to this. And I need the grip here in the north of Sweden.
Almost into April and little snow. May have to wait for snow plow videos next winter. Even here was a couple of inches and no more. Last year was a whole different story. Winter from hell.
Same here. Night and day difference from last year to this
I have these tires on a new JD 4075 and they are the best option for mostly asphalt and dirt road over Ag or Industrial. They are also not too bad on turf where will tear a bit but don't leave half the mess the other tires do this time of year.
No snow, El Nino this year.
Next year, you'll get El Nina!
Love Nokian ice tires. Run studs all winter. The wife won't drive without them. That's saying a lot. She was a very, very tough sell to try the first ones. Thanks Stan.
Awesome stuff
Should Listen to the Snow Jobs Podcast, I know that Glacier Snow Management was testing them this year, but not much winter there either.
I think its the footprint for sure! At tha same time, i think there made for working conditions at load rate! Not high speed. If you do have speeds over 15 for a distance to and from i dont see the tire holding up i see it as a recaped! Softer sole on turns with a bucket full i see this tread breaking in chunks on the outer side. Let me know stan .
Softer tread makes it roll off its rotation better then a hard tire thus a hard tire will ride more as a lumber wagon.
Nice one Stan. 👍👍🏴🏴
Here in massachusetts we had a really slow winter...
Couple weeks here in southern Michigan. Crazy winter for sure
Same here
And final comment. I believe tire science I very common here in Norway, Finland and Sweden. At least for people who live behind the steering wheel. Never know any operator who is not careful with the most effective way to work. fuel and equipment is so important. The Cost of mistakes are what makes you survive
Ran winterfore for 9 years. Had to buy a new set every year. Now i run nokian studs and man 10x better! Also set lasts 3 years. Studs will scratch pavement though if you spin.
Nokian all season tires has almost the same tread design
I was wondering why would you be putting on a pair of snow tires in the spring why would you not wait till fall and run the old tires all summer
Nokians! Not cheap, but really work good. Built by my ancestors, the Finns, they know winter. Lol 👍
Haha that’s awesome
Hawk-A-Pa-Lee-TAh
It depends a lot on what your facing as to what is the best choice, or the lest compromising.
Delivered newspapers for little under 8 years 7nights a week with under 10 sick days (ahh youthful near indestructibility).
I've burned through and been burned by just about every type of tire that I could mount.
A good winter tire is absolutely beautiful when properly matched to the job, but my newspaper route at 30% loose gravel county road, it is far from "living on hard surfaces," and most true winter tires don't like county road gravel power slides ether, but I and my short wheel base jeep did, so I compromised and got solid snow rated AT's, and carried a set of snow chains that can be put on, in a ditch, without moving the wheel/vehicle, offset diamond pattern and smooth enough to find yourself speed creeping up past 45mph the rated limit for them.
Keep them tires out of the gravel/construction like he said, and I bet you will be presently surprised, and they will wear like iron, hell the last set of winter tires my car had dry rotted with 1/2 tread left when a washboard gave the killing blow splitting out the side of my right rear 2 blocks from my house at all of 20mph, tire shop tells me manufacture date was 11 years ago, makes me wonder what some wheel conditioner could have done for them(totally going to look at real world tests of wheel conditioner now >
We live on a mountain in Montana and run the Nokians on all our rigs. They are superior to the others. Good choice !
Good to know 👍
I see you went with Nokian, just as i mentioned a couple years earlier
Stan sure they will work perfectly for you it's a dedicated snow loader
Hope his number was a public one that we could see on your phone
Now we gotta wait till next year to see how thry work. Worst winter ever.
lol...2017 the 2 week end mid april 2 18" & 34"snow storms with the 80º & 90º week days
Or best 😂😂
In the long run wouldn't it be more efficient to have wheels and tires for the winter snow a set of wheels and tires for construction summertime so all you have to do is change out the wheel and tire not have a tire company take them on take them off take them on take them off ?
Price how much???
I like em 😊👍🏻👍🏻
Agreed
PACKERS! WTF! Lol.
Packers???🤪 It’s your fault we got all this snow now when you put them tires on!!!
Go Pack Go!!!
all nokian heavy equipment snow tires are not created equal. nokian tri-2s < nokian hakkas. hakkas have siping, tri-2s don't.
We wouldn't even do split rims at my garage
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Man how many gallons is that fish tank? Looks lke it needs water.
Hawkahhpalooties
Did you say hakka puluti????😂😂😂😂
Duh
Stan, I know your getting old, but you don't have to put the resolution of the video in all your titles. ;)
They don’t make these for skid steers
I love you Stan and I’m happy your trying them but I hate the way pronounce Hakkapeliitta
Also in case anyone was unaware this is the same company that used to make Nokia phones they’ve both split in two and been sold off to other companies at this point though
I click on the video only because of the 4 title
You need to try the Hakka LT3 on the your trucks.
What part of Europe are those tires from?
Or are they made in China? Vietnam?
They're made in North Korea. Good rubber prices
@@SummerSausage1 NK? Yeah right 🤣🤣🤣
The guy on the phone has a Nashville number. Wrong accent, though...
Nokian Tires are originally from Finland. Nokian Tires have factories in Finland at Nokia and in Dayton Tennessee USA.
@@fsvideotfin2084 sounds right, I've also done some digging and learned that they make them in Russia as well.
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Take those Stupid stickers off... 🤦♂️
I just want to know how many Dandylions had to die to make these Tires?
Haka pollutes thank you sir
first
Nice