How Powerful is Optimus Prime?| BAYVERSE SERIES
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Even if this version of Optimus isn't the most powerful incarnation, I will say he is probably within the top 5 when it comes to his close quarters combat capabilities, and this is a version of Optimus you don't want to end fighting against.
Bayverse Optimus Prime just hits different sure he may be brutal and ruthless but can you blame him? He's been through a lot I mean he died and the last words he heard were "You are so weak" so when he came back to life he was like "Alright bet now everyone is getting bodied" and they did everyone did get bodied and it was awesome to watch Bayverse Optimus Prime is the robot Rick Grimes and I love it
Fr I don’t understand why people get mad at his aggression the people he’s stopping are always trying to blow up planets or stars like bru you want him
To hug it out or something ☠️
Other primes have been through the same, and they still persisted in being gentle giants instead of killing machines
@@Goji-COptimus takes measures depending on the situation
@@Earth009-d7p so? not every prime needs to be the same copy pasted thing, open your mind
I have to agree that this optimus can be cool at times, but he isn't optimus prime in my opinion.Every version does something unique to prime.Animated had him be a younger bot transformers earthspark had a lighthearted optimus.This one is just.....pure rage at least those primes kept their cool
Despite how bad the writing can be for some of the majority of the bay films still loved Optimus regardless. Pretty good vid.
i never knew Bayverse Prime was this strong, do a video on Bayverse Megatron
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Optimus Prime is weak sauce, Sam Witwicky is High Trans Infinite Outerversal and can solo Marvel and D.C. at thr same time.
Mate I aprreciate therebpeople out there knowing optimus prime scaling but brotha, There are atleast 30 High Outerverse characters in Marvel and DC and 2 boundless characters which is TOAA and presence so no he aint beating the verses.
@@Chillersnowman you don't get it, you don't know about the other 17 dimensions so that makes Sam Witwicky Omnipotent.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Scaling to 17 dimensions aint doing shit to cosmologies which has an infinite amount of them viewing the one below it as fictional and many characters scaling to it 💀💀💀💀
The cosmology is 21-D actually, since Sam had said "other" 17 dimensions while human understanding caps at 4-D.
Bro I've seen the first 3 movies countless times and every time with subtitles, I don't remember him saying that at all.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki it was said in "Revenge of the Fallen" college scene when Sam was in class and his body started moving on it's own. He mentioned the other 17 dimensions right after saying 'Einstein was wrong.' He was saying it a bit too quickly so it's not surprising that the subtitles couldn't catch up.
@@ssbwalker5144 lol my bad, I legitimately didn't even notice him saying it but I rewatched the scene and there's like half a second of him saying it. First time in Years.
I don’t think I’ve really had anybody explain how attack potency and destructive capability actually works. Absolute W video on one of my favorite characters of all time next to Godzilla
There's heaps of videos from countless CZcamsrs you just need to look, mainly on vs battles and power scaling videos.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki I have looked the ones I’ve watched just never explained it until I saw this video.
That scaling is so weird. Its lore accurate, but the movies show him and other transformers getting pieced up by human or human tier weaponry☠️. Clearly Michael didn't take the lore into consideration 😔
I mean tbf they say back in the first movie that they reverse engineered technology from studying Megatron
Look at wonder woman, she has universal scaling but can still be killed by a bullet
@@yu-gi-ohheathenway beyond Universal but yeah, same with Superman although Retribution Superman is thr bullet level one while 99% of the other forms are above that. Outliers are very annoying.
*"Bayverse's Transformers can die to human weapons,so this debunk them"*
We can considers this 3 things
in the Prequel of DOTM they already stated they used Cybertronians Tech to fight in battles
And in the First movie lennox stated that they armor gets Broken by High Temperature of the Guns (or something like this)
And in TLK unicron is inside of Earth,and maybe he can work like an energy Source to earth with his Dark Energon
One megatron couldn catch a human in the First movie. two It's Just bad writing that can be explained by the fact that Mychael Bay Just didn't give a sh#t about consistecy like megatron is massivelly faster than light and then on the same movie the same robot who can endore the vacaum of space gets trapped in an iceberg the cons also thought they could die form a small city explosion 4 the autobots aren't faster than cars my Guy 4 imagine thinking a being who can't even catch a human is "universal plus the scalling is inconsistent as fu$k since humans Can react to cybertonians If you're using these random ass statment from promo material most likely to atract nerds. I could say monsterverse godzilla is boundless because the novel says mechagodzilla had boundless Power in his hands orthat final Wars is outeversal these statements are moe incosistant than even the final Wars one imagine that a multiversal being can't endure the vacaum of space Optimus prime tlk😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
One of the best versions of Optimus
The goat
Sometimes attack potency is equal to destructive capacity
He would scale to some of the angles in dragon ball super who at a high end are 14D to 16D
WOW! Really shocked but especially on speed, didn't know Prime was that fast! Overall, very good video with some very good scaling
I’m glad I was able to teach you something ! I aim to teach people about characters that aren’t really that well scaled so if I shocked you that’s a compliment to me, thank you for commenting and be sure to subscribe to support the channel!
I love the first 3 films, Optimus was so raw in the movies🥶
Ok, a knew that this version of Optimus is powerful but I didn’t know it was that dang powerful, for real, you make me had a new perspective of power level of this Optimus (unlike the VSWiki or other CZcamsrs who state that majority of the versions of the movies of Transformes are weak).
But you did a bit justice to the movieverse of Michael Bay by making this power level for Optimus Prime (he is one of my favorite versions of Optimus Prime because he is realistic when it comes to the concept of war, although the aligned version is also my favorite because he is a balance of the Movieverse and the G1, I also like the Unicron Triology version because he feels like an anime hero).
Holy shit!
That's mean Optimus is powerful than 12D anti spiral!!!
I think people forget how powerful Optimus is because he is supposed to be the hero, so he doesn’t go around flattening cities and destroying planets for the fun of it. And also because the Bayverse has a lot of inconsistencies to accurately power scale. (Still love the first 3 movies though)
Yes it has inconsistencies but at least the power scale is consistent. it is underrated tho bc most people's didn't like the movies when they first came out
10:22 had me dying lol 🤣, but awesome scaling video man keep it up 😎
Yo it’s me shojo🤞🗣️ W vid keep it up
Thanks for making it towards the end bro we back next week 🙏🙏🙏💯
Finally someone that doesn't downplay bayformers, people underestimate the verse because of mook tier decepticons dying to humans but forget that it's through HEAT based rounds (which for some reason are called sabot in the movie) and through cybertronian technology gifted by the autobots and that the decepticons equivalents of attack dog like scorponok who shrugged off getting carpet bombed with anti-tank and even anti-warship weapons and ravage who shrugged off orbital entry. the latter feat is consistent since both the autobot gang from the first movie, the fallen and several other mook decepticons did the exact same with decepticons crashlanding with enough force to pierce through a warship and even an aircraft supercarrier. This is further backed up by the official guidebook stating how several weapons the autobots have like bumblebee plasma cannon, Optimus prime barrage cannon and ironhide arm mounted cannons having firepower in the kiloton range. Or when rotf Megatron (the weakest form of bayformers megatron) who just has been resurrected casually shoulder-checked a nuclear submarine while underwear soo hard that he flung it into the air do note Megatron also got curbstomped by optimus throughout the entire movie despite always having other decepticons like Starscream, grindor and the fallen helping him. Do note all of this is mid-end and excluding power scaling
Thank you for proving bayverse is stronger than most people downplay him
Definitely did not except Bayverse Optimus to be this strong . Earned a new sub
Already knew for quite sometime, but he ALSO had eaned another sub from me.
Dope video
GOAT OPTIMUS AND GOJI
I had him at *casually* multi city block level. No idea he was this strong 😭also where did you get that large planet level calc and comic scan from?
From the revenge of fallen gudebooks I think and dam I also used to think he on that lvl.
@@Chillersnowman appreciate it
Truly is HIM
I CAN NOT BELIEVE HE GOT CORY ON A FEATURE‼️‼️‼️‼️
Wow so bayverse is a lot stronger than what we thought.
Fr! I’m glad I could help you understand the true power of a prime, thank you for the comment and do consider subscribing to see more power scaling content for bayverse and other characters as well!
@@Goji-Cwill do
"In scaling"
Not in logic
@@WRATH_69 in logic too lol
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RotB Optimus Prime thinks he's HIM, broo 😮💨
He is not him.
Actually I've Rotb optimus scaling
Gotta say he's also a beast who can beat up superman
@@Artimus_Primeuh the video got removed
@@Eradicator_MK666 ye but I've saved it in my gallery
Rotb Optimus is freaking cool
Optimus Prime is the GOATED transformer
Another Goji dub 👑
When you gonna post we miss you 🥺
@@Goji-C Next week or the weekend probs, might be a short one ngl
😮😮😮😮, oh nah man, optimus beign universal is far fetched. I would put him at planetary level. Not downplaying , i am a big fan of op ever since i was 7.
GOAT
Ngl sounds like a Showa Godzilla victim
Of course
Actually no
Bruh Showa Godzilla is weak in comparison to bayverse haven’t you watched the entire video about his scale or at least payed attention at all ?
Oh wait u haven’t cause u don’t know about powerscaling
Optimus negs
@@PoIarisPrime fax
Immeasurable speed is not directly tied to dimensionality. It's time travelling via sheer speed.
Holy shit I know this guy
Also this was fucking amazing
Thank you for the support bru🙏🙏🙏
Also that he has the matrix of leadership which has the power to destroy suns via machines like the sun harvester and if used right, nothing can stop him.
If u add feat from the Titan magazine comics and Rise of the dark spark optimus resist reality bending from lockdown
GOATimus
Didn’t Quintessa easily restraint Optimus and Bumblebee caught her off guard?
I grew up on OG prime-collecting them G1 pieces every Christmas. Bayberry Prime was a problem. He looked cool and did cool stuff-but you could say he was the lesser of 2 evils. I could see why the government would get rid of him.
Bumblebee didnt kill quintessa, he just shot her from behind. A cheap shot. But still overall good video. You should do other bayverse characters as well
very useful video for a fan of bayverse optimus like me , but i dont know if its true but the fallen in the 2nd film wasnt in his full power , i watched other videos of other creators and some said that the fallen wasnt at full power do to his fight with his brothers in the comics so that wouldnt scale the fallen from the 2nd film above the universe and so jet power optimus could defeat him when he still didnt get the power from the harvester or smth so im just mentioning what i heard/ watched ( full respect )
You’re right, I think the Fallen was still injured from his fight with the other primes, which is probably why he didn’t want to go to Earth until Optimus was dead
@@CoalitionStopmotion Yea, but Prime should still scale to the lowball from this video
@@superomniamost definitely, just reassuring this guy that he was correct in saying that the Fallen fought his brothers and got injured. A mfer that can teleport and is like 40 feet tall is still going to be a major problem
Hey, if you don't mind, in which issue did you see the comic scene in 8:32?
Issue 1
Ending
I’m just hoping he doesn’t forget that him killing the fallen was with amp…
We need one form y boy grimlock
He can kill the fallen who survives star’s blowing up from the star harvester that said on screen to be able to destroy planets
This pisses me off because the writing is ass and the writers didn't care about the franchise anymore due to lack of innovation, like looking at that time bubble that prime just casually gets them out of a time bubble, like how unfortunate
Comics Optimus prime: (Kills deer) "All life is scared" sad :(
Michael bay optimus prime: The fallen vs optimus "your a victim".
so bayverse prime > tfp prime?
By a long shot
a lot of people say otherwise@@PoIarisPrime
@@mixmasterfanboy6223 they don't know scaling
@@PoIarisPrime yes
unfortunately no
TFP has WFC, FOC and Aligned continuity scaling
Goji-chronic its true that optimus can beat marvel and dc but godzilla ok maybe 2014 but 2019 and 2021 yes optimus died in almost every movie but mv godzilla survive a oxygen destroyer that gojira the first ever godzilla die by the hand of it and it kill every live form who need oxygen to breath and yet godzilla is still alive with some communication from mothra and survive a idk 100 or something thousands feets of drop to the ground from king ghidrah even if his dorsal plates is the first one to connect to the ground it didn't break and survive a atomic breath from mechagodzilla and gravilty beam from ghidrah it hotter than sun i think but i can see y and i didn't know about transformers villians is this powerful
Where is the scan for black hole galvatron?
If this Optimus is universal level, then how is he and the other transformer is damage by human weaponry?
It’s in the video but in case you missed it, basically humanity used cybertroian tech to make the weapons we see used in the bayverse,
@@Goji-C hell I don’t fit I’m guilty of that but I’m still not 100% convinced since in the 2007 movie regular missiles from F 22 raptor‘s were able to badly injured, and kill blackout and almost cripple Megatron you canthink that if you want, but, but I am just going to agree to disagree. Personally, I’d say city block to maybe town levels right but I’m not gonna fight you about it.
meant I’m guilty of that.I didn’t mean that came out wrong.
I also forgot about the planet moving thing
One of the revenge of the fallen game missions explained that apparently
Wouldn't that make Sam mftl+?
people dont understand how strong man kind has become humans as a whole are likely planet+ level we are able to level continents with a button
hello
Hello manji good sir
Surprised the Multi + and 5D wasn’t here tho
Mb, considered dropping a sub tho ong I plan on doing more transformers content in the future maybe I can get around to that
@@Goji-C Alr
BRO UNI+ AND CAN MOVE IN STOPPED TIME IS MY TAKE.
ACTUALLY HE HAS INFINITE SPEED NOT MOVING IN 0 TIME
He definitely isn't the Strongest Prime IDW would Bodie Bay Prime but i like Bay Prime
For sure idw prime is a different monster all together, thx for the comment I love to engage in my community and for more scaling content consider dropping a sub it helps the channel grow
IDW prime is Multiversal from what I've seen
So bayverse clears
Now... I love prime as much as the next guy. Really I do. He was and always will be him. But he is not as strong as you make him out to be. How is bro scaling against stars and black holes when he gets stuck in cables for half of the third movie's final act. The first movie had him and bots of similar strength injured by weapons that can at most destroy buildings. Regular human weapons. And as for the feats from the last movie, the ability scaled to hacks, as some characters have hacks abilities. But that same final boss that Quintessa was, she died to a shot from Bumblebee. He has shot regular buildings and they sometimes are not even fully destroyed. There are so many anti feats to say that at most he is able to dodge blaster fire and react to and shoot at space ships that were not flying at top speed. He is able to destroy buildings pretty easily so I would not be shocked if he was town to city level in attack potency. And he is durable enough to crash through the pyramids which are solid rock and very heavy. We seen him crash through buildings all the time in fact and he is generally ok. So I would scale him to around the same as his attack potency. But your calcs at least for prime are kinda out there if you ask me. I get it, cybertronian tec in later movies, but really, you have to look at what really did damage him and what he could damage at whatever speed we see from him. So no, he doesn't beat out dceu superman, mv godzilla or mcu thor. superman speed blitzes him and punches a whole in his stomach, thor does the same, and mv godzilla, even if he grazes him, is probably killing or at the very least badly injuring prime.
1.
Optimus was clearly ripping the cables apart upon getting stuck.
2.
Even then, one of his arms had a gun attached to it which wouldn't help with grip.
3.
Optimus could barely see them as they were also so thin.
4.
The cables were also wrapped around his jet-pack parts, which he could barely reach all behind him.
5.
Often in movies certain scenes can happen at the same time as other parts. He likely wasn't up there for that long.
Even if he was "building level", cables don't have the strength to wrap around him.
When did any "damaged" bots ever scale near prime? It's always been clear prime > other bots by a massive gap.
Also, those weapons weren't ordinary. Lethal rounds aren't carried in 37mm and yet, they're fired in those sizes during the movie.
They also produce muzzle flash. Those weapons were heavily implied to have been infused with the cube's energy.
Bumblebee never killed her, although he did stun her.
There is no implication bumblebee never tore through any block he shot.
Plus, quintessa moved cybertron into orbit.
He definitely beats everyone u listed
I thought to be the only to find his scaling a bit off
@@RazarOmni it's not off
Just cause quinntessa moved a planet does not mean she is as durable as a planet
Yeah it does, basic scaling
And two even if we say this, she was yelling in the process while absorbing the staff energy to drain unicrons life force.
This implies she's tanking the energy
And she needed the staff to drain unicron
so unicron and the staff > her base powers which on their own, moved cybertron
(It was a somewhat hollow size moon tho, so it's probably less than large planet level unless you argue the planets durability compared to a moon makes up for that so it can still scale)
This video is definitely a joke. Here, let me use this videos logic. Sam killed 07 Megatron who is stronger than Optimus. Therefore Sam is beyond universal and an all powerful being that God himself fears. You see what I mean? I'm pretty sure this video is a joke
optimus didnt move cybertron
what he meant is that prime could hurt Quintessa, who was able to move cybertron
I will say I do believe in the fallen being 17D but the durability all over the place honestly makes the transformers look weak geeting shit up by the military like how’d prime get injured in age of extinction by that missile when the fallen survived a star blowing up in tie in comics like 😊
Because that missile was from lockdown
You telling me Bayverse Optimus Prime beats Monsterverse Godzilla **AND** DCEU Superman...
I must've missed those videos while checking your channel. If they haven't been made, I would very much like to see those
Not actually, Optimus is literally an insect to Godzilla. I'm pretty sure this is just a joke
@@OneWithNoFace Optimus would one shot Godzilla
@@PoIarisPrime Good one, you have a career in comedy
@@OneWithNoFace I sent my earlier paragraph and you ignored it because I gave plenty of evidence man. Agree to disagree
@@OneWithNoFace Godzilla cannot survive 150 tenatons of force neither infinite power
bro is milking the fallen's death
Wdym
8:23 I have a bit of a problem with this, he very clearly isn’t moving at the speed the image you show from the comics, if that was the case, he would’ve moved faster then we would be able to proceed. And the fallen feat was with a power up that he does not have in base form.
Yeah it was a mach 3 feat if we're being generous but Optimus still scales to the fallen without the jetfire parts because the fallen feared coming to Earth with his presence and Optimus used his own fist to beat the fallen when the Jetfire upgrade didn't even scratch him
@@PoIarisPrime just because he feared him doesn’t mean that he would’ve lost, either that, or he just was too lazy to do it himself
@@PoIarisPrime oh, and the Quintessa one is also not accurate. Yes, Optimus does scale over bumblebee, but bumblebee only won (against Quintessa) because he didn’t even fight head on and used a sneak attack tactic, which I guess also Optimus did and he also kind of failed to kill her, despite having the advantage of a sneak attack.
@@Blizzardholocron The fallen was actively fearing Optimus lol, even saying only a prime can defeat him and two being lazy means nothing because he would've put all his effort into achieving his goals, Optimus was just more of a threat
and like said before Optimus used his own fist, the fallen ripped the entire upgrade Jetfire gave into pieces and Jetfire's arsenal bounced off of him, Optimus in base is superior to the fallen
@@Blizzardholocron Optimus surviving Quintessa's attack was calculated to be multi-continental. My friend calced it for me while I gave details for what to calc.
Sure using bumblebee as an example for damaging her doesn't work but Optimus still gets a feat out of it
Honestly I think he caps at planetary all of the other scaling u provided were from other versions of these characters from other sources for other versions prime he might be uni+ but bayverse is planetary at best
If you really wanna lowball, bay prime caps at star level
Fair @@PoIarisPrime
All of the versions he showed here are bayverse optimus lol
More like his gun slows time
Yeah lol
But can he beat Idw Optimus prime ?
Nope IDW is outerversal Goji got bayverse to universal
@@shannonhopper2141 hyperversal specifically but ye still Idw Optimus slams
@@Narphajira Isnt IDW prime scales to High Complex Multiversal?
@@isu152stalin2 apparently scales higher
@@Narphajira So
Low ball: Multiversal
High ball: Hyperversal
?
W scaling negs murder drones
Stil gets negged by Primeverse optimus
The same guy who struggled to stop a train? Nice try 😂 barricade is enough for him
@@PoIarisPrime bruh do you even know how fast that train was going? These Bayverse meat riders are insane
@@WRATH_69 that doesn't matter, a train is a train if u struggle with that ur strength is automatically below mountain level... Btw I don't think TFP prime is actually that weak I know he's way higher but I'm saying it cause why not he's still bay primes victim 😭
@@PoIarisPrime tf do you mean it doesn't matter💀 if an train is on minimal speed an Transformer would easily stop it but if on maximal speed anyone would struggle so stfu Bayverse meat rider
@@WRATH_69 So ur saying an island level character will struggle against any train at any speed sure thing 😂 guess the entire trains themselves create island level KE apparently
Primeverse Optimus is large mountain level
The inconsistency is wack in the movie tho they got NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS FIGHTING WITH BRO. I can’t say he isn’t that strong but like humans being able to see it makes is wack. Even with that technology they’re still just normal humans with guns
Don’t underestimate humanity. They can erase an entire continent with one button and maybe even more with enough technology. If anything, it just upscales the weapons.
@@FastModz95 I understand that but I just can’t see a normal human perceiving the insane speed they fight at
@@xicor172 Optimus has reaction and combat speed. Not travel speed.
@@FastModz95 That’s what I’m saying. How are humans able to even compete when they have that kind of reaction speed? Sam even jumped on Scarscreams face and with his human reaction speed and movement he hit Starscream in the eye
Starscream*
The fallen wouldnt be a trans dimensional being if he can be perceived by 3D beings
If you're talking about people perceiving his movement, no one was shown to react to him other than prime so I fail to see how this means he isn't transdimensional. If you're talking about perceiving him in general, fiction ignores this all the time, doesn't mean he isn't transdimensional
@@PoIarisPrime3D beings can’t comprehend beings from a higher cosmology, their brains would literally explode just by him existing
@@minilla2934 And this is just false. In fiction plenty of characters are 4D but can be at least perceived or seen by others who are 3D without undergoing any form of damage. They just can't react to the fallen. If they did then ur point would stand
And that's not how scaling works, you can still be transdimensional, because fiction ignores this
@@minilla2934 and even if that was true, fallen still has high uni AP
@@PoIarisPrimeyea but those are characters who have shown to feats to prove it while the fallen only has statements
I thought this was a real look until I got 5 minutes in, then I realized it was a joke.
What do u mean?
@PoIarisPrime Seriously? Everything said was completely insane. Let's use the same logic he used. Sam killed 07 Megatron and Starscream. And 07 Megatron was stronger than Optimus. So, using the same logic in this video, Sam is a beyond universal being that God himself fears. Because he killed someone stronger than Optimus. See what I mean? It's just a joke
@@OneWithNoFace First off being universal doesn't make u close to God as universal is infinitely far from even multiversal. Two, when did he claim Sam was universal? And he used the cube
@@PoIarisPrime he didn't, I just used the same logic to show how ridiculous this method of power scaling is. If you can even call it that
@@OneWithNoFace It's not far fetched tho the movie books outright claim the transformers have universal power... Optimus destroyed a Star Harvester which eats stars in the second movie
Hey bro do you have Discord Server?
Not unfortunately maybe when I get to like 100k subs I will make one
@@Goji-C do you have IDW Prime's Scalings?