Monty Roberts and Freddie the non-loader at Hartpury College (2013)
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- Monty Roberts and Freddie the non-loader at Hartpury College (2013)
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Just like anyone else you tell them not to and they suddenly want to do it absolutely brilliant man
I really enjoy watching Monty Roberts. Such a calm approach to horsemanship. Poetry in motion
I love how gentle you are with these supposed troubled horses!!
Great job, again, and hugs all around!! 👍
The main thing horse owners often don't get is that this is an incredibly important part of their overall training. They tend to ignore it completely, until the morning they're leaving for a horse show! They would usually only allow 10-15 min. for the trailer-loading process, and freak out if their "time limit" had been exceeded. Then the abuse begins. :( This training can take a few minutes, such as the above, or it can take hours. Or days. Or weeks. A lot depends upon the horse and its experiences, the rig, the and the experience of the person teaching it to load. I dealt with this a lot during my years as a hauler, and was so grateful when clients wanted me to come and work with their horse for as long as he needed, long before they ever planned to go anywhere with it. That way we all knew what to expect on show-day, and had a calm, quiet, reliable horse to load when it really mattered. The other half of the story is how you DRIVE once he's in the trailer. All the good loading work in the world can be undone with just a few minutes of poor driving. I not only trained horses to load, I also took the time to take their owners out on the road... so that they could learn to give their horses a smooth, safe, balanced ride in the trailer.
So lovely to watch could watch for hours
we left the trailer in the field and fed my filly in there. One day we couldn't find her and then saw her in the trailer waiting for breakfast. Monty is so kind, I hope to go see him working one day.
Love the way he speaks the horse’s thinking out loud for us to understand ☺️
What an amazing man with horses and people.
Laurali Svec Hi yes lol x.
this guy is a joke!
Gentleness I sll
Just watching this Video and it reminds me of When Monty came to New Zealand , he was so good and he did not have a fence when he loaded a horse on a float it can be done . He is so gentle.
Brilliant. Love the way he works these horses
I watched this at Hartpury! Monty Roberts is awesome :D
Was this the demo that was supposed to be held elsewhere and had a change of venue?
@@Loki1815 Not that I'm aware of, it was always meant to be there
The first time I ever used this technique ( without barricades) was on a horse I had never met before, she was fairly mistreated in her past and very scared, but none the less after doing basic round pen training with kindness, she came good, trusting me to load her in eight minutes in a trailer she had never seen before. This technique works very well. I have used it on others horses since no problem. Don’t knock it till you understand what he is teaching here.
Gorgeous horse
MONTY is the best!
he is amazing
Excellent!
Super stuff, and aww, Monty gets a thany you hug at the end! :¬)
Worked on my daughter when she was 4 she was sick for awhile n wouldn't eat..I made an adult sized bowl of oatmeat with apples n cinnamon..I said mommys going to the bathroom but do not eat my oatmeal...ok...I walked back a couple times midway out of the room..went to the bathroom..flushed..ran water..the oatmeal was gone by the time I got back...lots of giggles
Fascinating how petty and childish people are. All that counts is that he got a non-loader on the trailer. Secure adults focus on the product not the process or the personality.
That’s the opposite of what any secure adult should actually do?
You can see Freddie thinking, at the first go - what the Heck happened, how did he make me do that??? and then giving Monty a more thourough sniffing😂😂😂
Horse said: that f you think iam getting on that damn thing your crazy.
That just looks like entrapment to me
Very Cool!
TBH i always thought the best way to box train a horse was to leave the thing open in the paddock if possible for like a week. let nature take its course. or open in the yard for a month ...they can walk by it every day...this is REALLY clever though. I love monty!
Basically trapping the horse to get in the trailer
atleast they didn't force him/her, just simplifying where he/she was supposed to go, making it easier for him/her to get over his/her fear.
Freddie thinks that trailer is too small, not enough head room. He also knows that while he may bluff his owner, he can't bluff this new bloke.
A good day
I've just been watching a bunch of Ed Crothers videos, and I'm left wondering how Monty's sure it's not a pain issue. It's not like he gets to know many of these horses before he demonstrates with them.
And a regular trailor?
How did they get the horse where it is in the clip
It must be nice to have an arena, a cyclone fence and people to help you! I’m a backyard horse owner and have to load by myself. This video was not helpful but I have figured it out anyway.
So you had a horse that wouldn't load, you watched this video but it was of no help, you then got your horse to load anyway?
Interesting!
So this works only if you have 3-4 people with a portable chain link fence to chase the horse in the trailer
Exactly.Well said
This trick absolutely worked for my hard to load horse. A horse that has no problems with the trailer, but did not want to load. So when I used a barricade, so basically I had to think outside the box since I didn't have this portable movable gates. I used my Shed and the fence line that is near the shed, backed up my trailer to the end of the shed, and once I open the trailer door it went all the way to the fence line leaving no room to run, and with the trailer near the shed corner, again no room to run accept for in the shed it self. Sure, he rear up again, but saw he had no where to run, and what do you know, he came inside the trailer with zero problems. His problem is, going to places he don't like, and I believe he remembers that for people who think horse can't remember and for people who think horses are dumb, your the dumb ones with little intellect and ability to know the horse knows more then you every known. I have a extremely smart horse and to top it off, he's has been Alpha to every single horse he has come in contact with, no one has matched him as yet.
I mean, I don't know... he looks like a loader to me. XD
So how did the horse get to the demo in the first place? It was probably loaded and transported. Horse is not a non-loader but a reluctant loader or not quick enough for the owner.
I offered a non loader for a Monty R demo many years ago and ended up not being able to get the horse to the show because it wouldn't load. So I took a different horse that I had a biting problem with. THAT horse would load himself. I explained the situation to Monty and he said no problems, he'd work my horse. A few hours later I saw him convince a couple of thousand people that the horse wouldn't load.. Then (having spent 10 minutes successfully teaching the horse to load lol) he put a 'Be Nice' head collar on him and sure enough within 5 minutes he could stand with his back to the horse and not get bitten. Jolly good BUT. When he'd finished I went into the arena with the regular head collar. The SECOND the painful head collar was off my horse grabbed Monty by the shoulder and threw him to the ground. The man is a good trainer but these 10 minute 'fixes' are a showmanship con and have made him a rich man. Training doesn't happen in 10 minutes.
I spoke to the owner of a non-loader at a MR demo, who rode her horse to the demo and camped out overnight in a borrowed field.
Having never camped out overnight before, she never realised how cold she would be at 4 o'clock in the morning, she said she shivered all night!
Mat frintco
But in real life, there are no fences to put behind a horse that won't load.
I wonder what Monty Roberts is doing nowadays?
I just left his ranch today after a 3 day course.he is doing amazing. He and his wife are making people!
Well, what if you do not have iron gates, and a crew sweeping and minding your every cue? :-)
Linda Mellingen you don’t have a fence? You have zero natural barrier to use? Back the trailer up to it. Duh. He had them clean the poop so the horse didn’t step in it and to keep the arena clean. Big whoop. I’d love to see all the naysayers accomplish this with a hard loader in this amount of time.
We had good results with a lunge line between two people. Get him facing the trailer, put the line against his butt--keep sawing it, so the horse can't figure out if it's solid or not. Let him figure out kicking at it doesn't accomplish anything. Eventually his butt gets warm and he's willing to move forward. Then the handler walks into the trailer, the linesmen walk forward with the handler, and the horse goes into the trailer. Within five minutes.
Problem is, people think using a lunge means pulling the horse in, and that doesn't work.
LOL, not my horse....I wish, but not this one
I used John Lyons method of loading and used no gates or panels. It took me 30 minutes in my front yard and never had another problem with her.
Ashley Peake he has done this thousands of times without an audience or crew.
🥹🥹
Pretty sure having that gate entrapment isn't really getting horse to comply willingly
Pretty positive that if you got out of lift at basement level and a sign pointed down a corridor for the exit and when you get to the door, you find it locked, that you voluntarily turn around and get back in the lift!
Monty please watch videos of Klaus Hempkling he much more gentle.
Freddie the non - loader as opposed to Freddie the freeloader..............
1000-1500lb animal that can hurt you just like that, so it is better to offer cooperative respect, gentleness and patience plus lack of fear when doing ANYTHING around them. Enslaved treatment is always a no no.
TY
AThis is pure nonsense. Showmanship
Oh yes let's crowd this prey animal all around with creeping predator people, blocking him with a fence. He will surely want to load up next time with ease...not!
Monty, Can you help me teach my horse to walk across a line of gasoline fire? I have to do this at a mounted patrol clinic in March, and I would like my horse not to be afraid and exposed in a slow fashion. Thank you!
Loading the grey is an unadulterated mess
I had a person bring me a gray roan that would not load either he said it took him over an hour to load him when he was bringing him to me for training I worked on ground work and pen work and didn’t think much about trailer loading until I was going to take him out for his first cattle drive and I worked him in and out of the trailer until he would jump in on command and of we went until I went to load him after we were done and it was the same fight so I told him you will load next time and I started in the cattle loading crowding tube with a good stick asked he said no so I told him once with the stick and repeated it the next day and all I had to do was ask from then on
Horse training for the rich and famous.
Why the rich and famous? I’m neither rich or famous and have succeeded countless times using Montys methods.
That horse has been loaded before there is no way that it’s first time
Monty Roberts in particular, but also Clinton Anderson, Pat Parelli, et al, have merely figured out ways to make good livings at the expense of people who lack a basic understanding of equines. They each sell different methods, but they all work about as well. Equines are intelligent animals who learn and adapt quickly, and the animals deserve FAR more credit than the trainers. If I have to watch Monty Roberts get a horse to go inside a trailer by using several thousand dollars worth of fencing or break a horse by velcroing a plastic dummy on his back one more time, I'm going to throw up.
You are jealous, come on, man up and admit it!
It's so engrossing we forgot to click on 'Like' (or 'Dislike')!
Pop up on his back and ride him in! or a bucket with favourite food in inside the box generally worked, I didn't have a crew or fencing.
retrained by leaving box in field and putting treats inside right up against the far end, like carrots or apple every day, none on that pulling and messing about, this is rubbish.
Nice trick, but just a trick.. this is not training
These are no impulses but constant pressure and no timeouts for the horse, although it's stepping forward he pulls further. This is really bad work...!
If he's so good why doesn't he do it without locking the horse in an enclosure. Regular people do not have stuff like that so it doesn't help one bit. He uses too many gimmicks.
+Digitalbumpin Many of us agist our horses and do not have the option of carting around, owning and storing large portable fences. We have to make do with what is available. I have seen trainers work with difficult loaders without the aid of gimmicks such as fancy headcollars and portable fences, and they get results.
And I would never recommend letting a horse turn around in the float and come off frontwards like Monty does in this video. I made that mistake with a youngster of mine many years ago. After that one time, he then refused to back off a float and unloading him became dangerous so I had to send him to a trainer for correction.
sscliche it should be done without the gates, you can't take gates to a show are racecourse
sscliche regular people don’t have a fence or any barrier of any kind? Use your brain. Stop acting stupid.
The purpose of the gates is for speed. He can certainly train the horse to load without the fencing. However, what took 3 minuets might have taken an hour or two. His job is to try and help as many horses in that day as he possibly can. So yes, he uses a few short cuts.. he still got the job done.
Of the portable variety like he's using? NO. That's commercial equipment, not the "back forty" equipment that the one-horse-on-a-dairy farm or country cottage horseman has available.
Give the horse to Pat Parelli and he will playfully walk him in and out of any trailer in ten minutes without steel fences and the help of four (4 !) other people.
To all Monty Roberts - followers: Do read the book "Horse Whisperers And Lies" by Joyce Renebome.
I daresay, the man is not my favourite rolemodel. ;-)
I think it is perfectly fine to have many people who love and work well with horses. Though there may be differences that is to be expected. This man and his style works for many people as does Pat Parelli, Klaus Hempfling, and Buch B. Different styles but lots of experience and love of horses.
+Paul Mittermayr naa give the horse to nevzorov or hempfling and the horse dont even need a halster bit or other thing to control the horse head
+Paul Mittermayr : I have seen him do this without the extra help , and he was fantastic. What does it matter either way, he is not hurting the horse to get his way, and is teaching those who previously did not to and why. This is not always his way to train them to load, just one of them. Haters gonna hate I guess, but it is really petty.
Could you perhaps explain what the helpers actually DO that makes life so much easier for Monty? And OK, so you don't have an enclosed area.. And spend the entire session chasing the horse round... What? An arena? A paddock? A field? A farm?............
Jealousy is a terrible thing
Sure, until he meets my horse, LOL. This horse automatically give up after knowing he/she couldn't go anywhere, so there you have it. I could probably do this with my horse, block him in that way, then maybe I'll get him inside. I have him tied to 4 tires so he stops running away, now he only runs a certain distance as far as the rope will take him, he don't drag the tires anymore, LOL. I am so going to try this on my stubborn horse, barricade him where he has no where to go, and then he'll have to go in the trailer because that is the only place he can go either the trailer or in the run in shed, oh man, I really hope this works.
Learn the body language that encourages a horse to feel safe and follow you. Park the trailer in his paddock and leave food in it so he has to load himself to eat (take the partition out first) Desensitise him to the sound of his feet on a ramp by getting him walking over a sheet of Sterling board on the ground. 99% of loading problems are caused by impatience - the handler's not the horse's!
Trailers should be banned, they are dangerous and if in an accident the horse doesn't stand a chance.
How are people supposed to transport them?
I used to think he was a real horseman. Until i watched people like Clinton Anderson and Pat Parelli. They dont need steel panels to corral the horse in the trailer, or helpers, or pull the horse in the trailer.
Sorry.. but Clint does not respect his horses.. he beats them .. He doesn`t even respects women =( Parelli, Rick Gore, Buck, Raleigh and Monty they know the meaning of respect and how to build a relationship with horses
Have to agree. I've seen a lot of video's of Clint and though I agree with his underlying idea, I don't agree with how he puts it to practice. That's why I'm such a huge fan of Warwick Schiller. He basically uses the same idea but without actual violence for no apparent reason. He starts of with a small gesture and makes that gesture gradually increase as long as the horse doesn't get the message. He doesn't, like Clint, immediately start whacking and jerking like there's no tomorrow, stressing the horses out like crazy.
I'm a bit skeptical about Parelli as a method, because I once saw a video of a woman who I was told was his wife, who was downright abusing a horse missing an eye for no apparent reason. I'm not that familiar with Pat Parelli himself so I can't judge him, but if that's his wife I sure want nothing to do with her.
Kann mich den anderen nur anschließen, Clintons Methode entspricht nicht dem natürlichen Kommunikationsmuster von Pferden. Release, von wegen! Kann dir nur empfehlen dich mittels Bücher weiter zu bilden, da diese ausführlicher die Hintergründe von z.B. Montys Handeln erklären. Ebenfalls empfehle ich einmal den Kanal von Warwick Schiller zu besuchen, seine Videos sind sehr lehrreich...
He’s 83 friggin years old. Having a helper does not diminish his ability and that’s the OWNER at the end. Not a helper. If you think Clinton Anderson is the best trainer then you’ve got a lot to learn about the difference between respect and pain. Rick Gore, Monty Roberts, sometimes Pat Parelli (his wife is awful) are the best there are.
Another trainer I like pretty well, besides Roberts, Gore or Schiller, is a fellow that has the channel called "Colorado Reinsman", Sean Davies. I've never, ever heard him even raise his voice at a horse, and his methods allows the horse to practically teach himself.
I can load a dam elephant with gate get real if anyone pays to see this sorry
LOL - I'd pay to see someone try to load a stubborn elephant into a trailer.
All very well when you just have a stubborn horse like Freddie.... this is not necessarily confidence building for a horse (like mine) who has had a trauma/accident. Monty Roberts is not my cup of tea and quite frankly, I think he's WAYYYY over rated.
we dont need your opinion sorry
Have you never heard of Freedom of Speech? Welcome to the internet, a wonderful place were you have share your opinion.
I agree, Sophie Fuller. This is passive aggressive and may work in a slow motion, five man clinic but .....
+Sophie Fuller It's an interesting opinion but it sounds like you r frustrated that he's using a different method for a different problem.
I think it's important to remember the time he has come from and how he completely changed the perception on what you needed to do to train a horse. Perhaps some people think his methods are out dated now but he set the ball rolling for not domineering/violent training that we accept today, for English speaking nations ofcourse
+Kergilliack6 d
The only time I saw him at equine affair in Ohio the horse had been hauled for years and then was in an accident and refused to get in. The gates worked "perfectly" because he just needed to be reminded that the trailer would not hurt him. Yeah, I was not impressed. This method does not teach the horse to listen or to handle/get over his fears. Would never pay money to see him.
This guy is a terrible horseman.
I don’t like this mans methods at all.
He’s making a lot of mistakes here and can potentially get people injured.
Gee Molly, Tell us what you're calling "a lot of mistakes"?
Yes, I would be interested to hear what his mistakes are....Molly, have you read any of his books ? I think you might find them very interesting.
He has only done this his entire life so he's probably still a little green compared to you.
@@alb5489 hi mmm silence from Molly well I guess no one is surprised.
What kind of idiot ever tries to lead a horse anywhere while walking backward? And his frieking dully halter that he has on this horse inflicts pain if the horse resists.
When teaching any horse to lead there are two things you teach them first. One is when I face you that means STOP. And TWO, when I put my hands on you anywhere that means standstill. So, why would you do either of those things while asking a horse to go forward?
Any horse can be led and loaded into a horse trailer in a matter of minutes with no pain, coercion, treats, whips, flags, or anything other than a simple lead rope attached to the bottom ring of the halter and ONE person leading the horse, that KNOWS HOW TO LEAD a horse. Not what this guy is doing.
And I know you’re going to say that I don’t know about Monty. I actually know him very well and have for many years and I can assure you that he is in this for only one reason, and that is to make money off gullible people that do not know any better.
It must be nice to have an arena, a cyclone fence and people to help you! I’m a backyard horse owner and have to load by myself. This video was not helpful but I have figured it out anyway.
Lena Sullivan you don’t have to own an arena to do this, and I’m sure you can find at least one person to help you.
When your horse is used to loading, and it’s not nervous anymore when it has to go in the trailer you can do it on your own too.
It’s all about practice.