Drum Teacher Reacts: John Bonham 'MOBY DICK' - Led Zeppelin (Live At Royal Albert Hall 1970)
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I'm also a lifelong drum teacher and 58 years old. Different drummers are "the best of all time" at different things. Bonham's mastery was his balance of heaviness of a hard rock drummer with the groove of a jazz drummer. One thing that made Zeppelin amazing that is often overlooked is how much Paige would construct many guitar riffs OFF OF Bonham's grooves. It gave the songs so much swagger because the rhythm was often composed before the guitar. A great compositional trick that allows the drummer to come up with something with maximal groove and heaviness first, and THEN build the melodies around those grooves. I can't believe this isn't better known about Zeppelin.
GREAT comment!
I’ve tried to explain this to people and just couldn’t find the right words.. well said..
this band were very in tune with each other.. I’m not sure any guitarist was more involved with the drums than Page was in the way her put songs together.. 😎
Most people who listen to zep don’t Ny get what you’re saying. It’s so true. Those two together were the music behind the groups success.
In the same way the did call and response rythms between page and bohnam that sounded so clean.
Actually, Bonham followed Page. That fact is in interviews and videos I have recently seen. That's why the groove was so good. Just repeating what I heard. I am a musician. Not great, but I know what I'm doing. My talent is putting songs together and my ear.
I was there, aged nearly 15, having illicitly sneaked out of boarding school Northwest of London with a buddy, and got back before morning roll-call. One of my great life experiences. Magnificent.
“There’s no loud or fast without quiet and slow.” That’s just good life advice 😂
Mark Knopfler knew that. It is in almost every his song.
Keenly brilliant observation sir!
@@maryellenleach7457 thank you mamn!
I was at the Sydney concert in late February 1972. No one had ever seen a stage set up like theirs. They opened up with the Immigrant Song, pretty appropriate eh. When Bonzo started Moby Dick the band all left the stage and let him go for it. I had been drumming for a few years but had never heard anything like it. I was convinced that he had some kind of electronics up there making it sound faster. But no this was Bonham at his unbelievable best and it was a privilege to have been there to see it.
Great memories right there Peter!
Is that the one in the Cricket gorund or was that Adelaide?
@@telephonic Neither, the Sydney concert was at the Showground.
@@flattiekiller I'm actually jealous, you got to see Led Zeppelin live, pretty freaking awesome.
best band youve seen live?
Bonham was a heavy hitter, when he wanted to be. He knew exactly what to play for what song and how hard
Yup!
What strikes me the most is his innate and absolutely impeccable sense of timing. It's flawless!
Just so you know he was 22 and I was at that concert . I know Plant and Page were the front men but Without Jones and Bonham as the engine room they would not have become one of the greatest rock bands in the world. John Bonham was taken too soon
Amazing.
Thank you John
No, he was actually only 21. May 31, 1948. The concert was January 9, 1970.
You are absolutely correct. Every Zep member was a genius in their field. So jealous that you saw this live. Good for you.
Their story of how they got together is amazing, they were meant to be together, like a cosmic pull towards each other, to become the best rock band of the century
@@eileenbaran7040 sometimes the stars align.....
' I need a cigarette and a lay down' is by far the most perfect response to this video
Anyone here can you do this for over 15 minutes and still go on with the concert, he's a legend
Being a teenager in the seventies truly had its perks. We had Led Zeppelin and some many other great bands.
Two things to remember: John knew how to -tune- his drums and a Motown freak(with Jones of course.) Interesting story at the Newport Jazz Festival,James Brown(at the time had 3 drummers) They all watch Bonzo,'how heck is doing that?' Great video!Thank you!
Hope to do more Bonham reactions
Now you see why when John Henry Bonham passed away the band just called it quits. Led Zeppelin was four members and all were irreplaceable. How many bands would eventually replace the drummer and move on? Some bands replace the lead singer and still carry on! Zep knew who they were and ruled for a decade before the passing of our boy here. Zep was no more, but we all understood. It would never be the same again.
They did (mostly Plant and Page) return under the Zep name here and there, but they always seemed to resist the idea of 'being' Led Zeppelin again without Bonzo. Both they and us knew that it wasn't, and could never be, Led Zeppelin.
That drum solo gets better and better the more you watch. Great stuff from the Legend.
Peace
Great point. It's a real band. 4 contributors.
Very different to today's model of a songwriter, and then a product (singer) with a backing band.
still, it would have been awesome for led zeppelin to have continued in a new direction with maybe phil collins on drums & vocals & co-writing. it would have kept page plant & jones together in one studio. imagine all of the cool music they + collins might have made.
Awesome was that they did get to come back and play with Bonzo's son on drums
@@johncarey4040 yes but they just rehashed old music
@@jamesha175 To me, the mid '90s could have been that sweet spot when, instead of the Page & Plant thing, they brought back Jones too and did a Zeppelin thing. Page and Plant actually WROTE stuff for the Unledded thing and then, of course the Page and Plant record. A decade plus had gone by for each guy to do his own thing. All they needed was to ring up JPJ and get a good drummer (maybe Jason?). Opportunity lost.
John Bonham the best rock drummer ever,by far,and one of the best drummer in the history...Im a drum teacher of jazz too...
He certainly lives up to his reputation!
De donde eres Albano?
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Im from Portugal...
Neil Peart is definitely on par with Bonham. You can't say JB is best by far. It's immeasurable.
Ian Paice was better IMO
@Fran Ra And that's your opinion. Which you're entitled to. I prefer Rush but I know they aren't a better band than Zep. Zep have fewer albums but they're packed full of great songs. Rush on the other hand have 20 odd albums, most of them full of filler songs with 3 or 4 top quality songs. IMO
I really enjoyed this reaction. You asked how a crowd in this timeframe might react, in awe and appreciation would be the way I would put it. They were unlike anything we had ever seen, and no group really highlighted the drum and bass the way Zeppelin did. It wasn’t dance music, it sit down, turn it up and get high if you want to. I don’t know how familiar you are with Zeppelin, but “Achilles Last Stand”, “Four Sticks”, “The Wanton Song”, “When the Levee Breaks”, “in My Time Of Dying”, “Kashmir “ might be enjoyable for you. “Achilles Last Stand”, and “Kashmir “ both live at Knebworth in 1979 show some of his great drum fills, and the speed of Achilles is like a horse galloping for 10 minutes.
Love your passion!
Definitely seems to be 'stand there mesmerized' type music
The PG album is a tour de force of Bonham's drum.
Andrew, you should listen to Dazed and Confused for the call-and-resonse going on. Bonham plays c&r with Page for a while, then he plays with Jones' bass for an extended period, while Plant then does call-and-response with Page. These guys were beyond everything else going on at the time,. And that is why we are still analyzing it all 50+ years alater.
A story I read in Rollingstone years ago said when Bonham first met John-Paul Jones he told him about his love of drag racing. So Bonham played the drums loud and fast to mimic the engines. Plant was there at the time and told everyone they found their drummer.
Excellent Ivor!
THIS MAKES *SOOOOO* much since. THANK YOU 🙏
Led Zeppelin: the greatest band in history? Quite possibly. The tightest band in history? Almost certainly!
YES CHARLIE!
Just remember Andrew, you kept taking breaks but he never did.
HAHA Yes!
Greatest of all time
Buddy Rich used to perform often on late night tv. He might have been the most visible jazz drummer for folks in 1970.
Yeah, it's not about buddy though.
I saw Don Henley interviewed in "The History of the Eagles" and when they were getting started recording, Henley asked the producer for at least one more mike on his bass drum so it would sound more like John Bonham's style. The producer told him "No" and told Henley to hit his bass drum harder. Henley's reply was "I can't hit it as hard as he can!"
People THOUGHT Bonham was loud, because he was dynamic.
He's just the right volume. Totally approriate
@@AndrewRooneyDrums You are a drum teacher. I'm only a guitarist that knows very little about drums. I've read numerous times that Bonham was very good at tuning his drum heads to provide that huge sound without bashing them like an ape. Any truth to that?
@Philip Gannello There's absolutely no need to say "the drummer I like is better than the one you like!" Talk about how great Palmer may have been, but you don't have to disrespect Bonham.
@Philip Gannello still doesnt sound as good as bonham
That's not playing drums that is a MASTERCLASS on drums!!!
He was 22 in 70 , 20 when he joined Zeppelin. He said he started playing with a kit at 16 , in four years he was on Zeppelins first album. Plus he didn’t take lessons . That’s amazing he was that proficient at an early age and no lessons . He did beat on his mothers pots and pans from an early age . Way cool thanks for the video
I know it's probably been quoted before, But John Bonham was 22 years old in 1970... TWENTY TWO!!!!! Incredible talent at that age...
First concert I went to was Zeppelin in 73 in Detroit. They opened with this. Unbelievable. Nothing to compare them to or the experience. I have seen many greats over the years for sure they had the power. I was so lucky.
Many of their drum solos were 30 minutes or more. The Mighty Zep earned their accolades, touring relentlessly, playing up to 4 1/2 hour shows, no opener...it goes on and on. One show, John did a 53 minutes drum solo. Wonder what the other boys were doing back stage.
Zeppelin Rulz!
That's insane!
Have a meal, impregnate 3 groupies and take a nap...that's a long solo.
@@davidc6032 You missed the Snort Loads of Crack part........ during those long solo's!
Rails were being consumed during the solos for sure.
It is important to note that both John Bonham and Robert Plant were barely even 21 when this was recorded.
Yeah... um..
That's just silly. Stop it please...
BAHAHAHA
@@AndrewRooneyDrums it's true though
Rgades well.... Bonham died in 1980 in his 31st year.... do the math ....
10 years prior ( 1970 ) = 21 :)))))
👍👍👍🥁🍺
Rgades bang on brother !
Yup. JPJ just turned 24 that week. Page turned 26 that very day (Jan 9, 1970)
Add to this that John was a raging alcoholic, it's amazing he kept up this tempo.
Crazy town alright!
Yeh, you'd think, his other addiction however, was cocaine.. R.I.P. BONZO
Bonzo and Page were smashed on heroin by 1978.
@@richardharrold9736 Never heard a thing about Bonham and heroin.
@@betsyduane3461 really? I was always under the impression he was using as heavily as Jimmy.
just love his "high hat" work...no one does it anymore...at least to the point that he did
Yes keeps an anchor throughout the solo. It's great
@Stuart Munkley HAHA YUP!
The best
Keeping high hat working during solo. Amazing.
Bonham, would have been about twenty two in 1970. Even after all these years still the best of the best for me. Really enjoyed your review!
Yup I really dig his vibe
Still 21 this was January 9th turned 22 May 31th
Best drummer alive at the age of 21 , talk about talent, Remarkable is an understatement!!!
cubby8873 -It’s was actually Jimmy’s 26th Birthday
Great reaction! He was 21 years old when this was filmed. His 22nd birthday would be coming up in May 1970. Best version of his Moby Dick chops is from the live album release in 2003, How the West was Won, recorded in June 1972 in California. Mind blowing solo. Please react to it. I can send you the link, but official Led Zep channel has it available on CZcams 🙂🥁🥁🎶
Sounds awesome
@@AndrewRooneyDrumsit's a great soundboard audio recording, that's why Led Zep released it as an official live recording. Drumming at it's peak, you will love it
Anyone who says John Bonham is only good because he hits the drums hard gets butted out of the conversation immediately. Its obvious they have only heard one Led Zeppelin song. Im really enjoying your breakdowns of Bonham
It's one of these things that gets repeated enough until everyone else just agrees by default.
Sure, hitting hard at some points... but it's all totally appropriate and overall seems very controlled to me :)
Perhaps people think he plays loud because he is very "up front" in the mix?
He's massively overrated. In my early days of listening to them, i never thought how he stood out.
@@pretoshohmoofcguy6523 Get a Life
@@pretoshohmoofcguy6523 You are a buffoon
Bonham was 22 when this was recorded. So great for a very young man.
"what were the crowd thinking in 1970?" -- if they were music fans and/or drummers, they'd be thinking "i really like how Bonham does those Elvin Jones and Joe Morello licks in his solo".
Drama is a great description of everything these guys did
That snare tone when he picks his sticks back up and twats the snare a few times... It's the best snare sound I've ever heard. God damn.
Bonham played that solo over 200 times, at some point during a 3 to 4 hour concert, he’s so amazing & the greatest drummer ever.
i can’t help but smile when i watch this, RIP JB❤️
Great Eli! Yes he remains a legend for sure.
Best drummer ever .
3cheers from Canada
He's definitely up there!
I think that out of all of the great drummers that have been in rock bands over the years that I have had the pleasure of hearing and seeing the way that John did his crossover moves was and always has been my favorite! The way he did his to me was just completely different from anyone else that I have seen and he did it in the most smoothest way!
*spins stick*
“whaaaaahhh wasn’t expecting that fire” like that was the most impressive part 😂
In ‘73 I saw them live, saw Deep Purple twice, saw Pink Floyd do Dark Side, saw the Stones with Billy Preston on Keyboards....Van Morrison with an incredible band....I don’t bother saying anyone is the absolute greatest??? Really?? I loved the Who.... Emerson Lake & Palmer....Jethro Tull...I appreciated them all.....we were so lucky.... I love your reaction videos....👍🏻🥂😎
I learned to play drums in high school........It was 1985 I was 14 and I had as all kids had, a WALKMAN....All I had was Led Zeppelin and The Doors tapes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well every 6th period I sat in a soundproof room with A bass, a snare, 2tom toms. 1 ride 1 crash..hi hat and learned drums by learning Bonham!!! Moby dick I had down at 15........'Thank You' has those flowing rolls
Nice to hear a percussionist react to this! I heard that Bonham was influenced by jazz greats like Gene Krupa, Art Blakey, Elvin Jones and Buddy Rich. As you pointed out, the jazz influence is quite clear in this solo!... Zeppelin is known for their groove - Bonham and bassist John Paul Jones have very nice chemistry. I’d recommend songs like How Many More Times (1969), Good Times Bad Times (1969), Out on the Tiles (1970), or Achilles Last Stand (1976) if you want to hear Zeppelin’s rhythm section shine.
Thanks for the recommends!!!
Two bigger influences on John for this solo were Max Roach and overall Joe Morello.
Here's the playlist with all my reactions. Thank you for watching!
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You’ll never be that great. I suggest that you take up the saxophone 🎷
Don’t forget to mention his crush @ single stroke rolls ???????
that was really great BUT it did need a little more cowbell.
Have you heard of Lenoir and freinds?
Sorry Lenoid and Friends.
You definitely tell they were a tight band no question.
Very classy. Artistic
Really appreciate hearing a drum teacher break this down. I'm not a drummer myself, but I've always enjoyed it and watching your reaction validates what I can hear, namely that this is a masterpiece.
One of the great things in live music that I love is how a band interacts. These days there's so much clinical stuff which is fine but I just adore watching a band work together. I've seen this in a few bands but at the beginning of this video I love the huddle Page, Bonham and JPJ does. That's how you lock step and feed off each other.
Andrew... EACH time I see THAT particular footage, I am the same as you, I want to watch in a loop. But I also bite my knucle out of frustration😂. My ultimate drum god🤘
FOUND it
Bonham was a fan boy and admirer of big band, swing drummer Buddy Rich, you can actually hear the influence and in reciprocal, Buddy Rich had huge respect for Bonham
YESSSS!
There's been a lot of Bonham blocked to. Available to the patrons
Yeah you can hear the influence.
Led Zeppelin was known for 2.5 hour-long concerts so this often was an intermission event at the shows.
About the many comments about the age of John Bonham...
At 1970 I was 25 and the top plumber in the city.
Thanks.
HAHA! Nice!
There's a common misconception that Bonham played with a double pedal - how else could he play so fast? In fact, he did his signature triplets on a standard bass drum pedal
Unless you’re New to drumming and drummers, ie, you’re very young, you know he was not using double bass. I’ve never heard anyone say he must’ve used two bass drums 🤷♂️🤔
You can see his Joe Morello influence with the hand playing and the Al Jackson Jr. Groove influence.
22 years old and playing at this level.
10 years later and gone...
The brightest stars burn the fastest.
1970,i was 5 Jears old and i grow up with this stuff.YEA!!!
Always gonna love the stuff you grow up on! Awesome
@@AndrewRooneyDrums You right!greetings from Germany!Love your channel.
He really took to that Moeller technique. One of his big influences was Buddy Rich from what I understand, though I feel like his phrasing in solo's is a bit more Louis Bellson in a way, a little more dynamic and varied than what Rich was known for.
But yes, mega dynamics, lots of technique, Moeller and rudimentary. I tell ya, I miss the days when dynamics were more of a thing, when technique mattered more than speed and blast beats. And when drums sounded like drums, just pure and melodic, without all this stuff with triggers and whatnot.
Reading this as a guitarist is alien haha
Couldn't agree more. His solo's almost follow the same template as Buddy Rich,
That kick on the bass drum to quote Jimmy Hendrix, was like playing the maracas!
How did I miss this, nice analysis! Merry holidays, Andrew!!
🙏
This entire show is remarkable.
Loving this Bonham in the groove! Your reaction is very insightful and very different from most reactors🥰 giving me new appreciation and enjoyment THANK YOU SIR keep rocking ✌️
Back in the early 70's it was typical of most every band to have a drum feature, It became a friendly "battle" of sorts as to which drummer on a given night won the nights competition. As a drummer I loved it! This of course led to more and more extensive solos and became known as the over indulgence of the time. EVERYONE had an extended feature on their instrument to showcase their virtuosity ( or the attempt at such) and they got longer and longer and lengthy drum solos especially became a prime example of something with which people grew weary, and eventually no one wanted to hear. Keep in mind, people back then went out to experience music. This was before music videos. Audiences paid attention to the performance, whereas today's audience is distracted and less responsive. As for Bonham being a heavy hitter -- one must take that in context. Hal Blaine was the premier "rock drummer" up until 1968, and then along comes Bonham and it was obvious, he was getting a sound and feel from the drums that hadn't yet existed. Today, it's standard.
Very well said Nelson.
Great comments
I have this whole concert on DVD, bought it 16 years ago, my friends and I may have enjoyed the occasional substance. And this is what we watched almost everytime. The whole concert is absolute perfection. And the audio is shockingly good.
Jones and bonham were the best without a doubt bass and drum combo off all time , they compliment each other like no others
Yes!
Moonie and Thunderfingers
The best drum solo ever
Sensational Robert
It all makes sense now...John Bonham was the direct inspiration for ‘Animal’ on The Muppets 😁
Feel, timing, touch.
Bricklayers hands, strength.
Phenomenal endurance & chops for day's.
Thanks for talking us through long drum solo...I am one of those fans who usually fast fowards through them, but now I can appreciate a lot more.!!
Great vids Andrew really enjoying them
"JOE MORELLO: The Great Drum Solo" is on YT. He was the drummer from The Dave Brubeck Quartet. There are parts of Morello's solo that sound remarkably like Bonham including Morello playing his fingers and hands on the snare. Two really superb Jazz drummers in my opinion. I love them both!
The backbone of this band was Bonham and Jones. Just listen to JPJ stuff on Them Crooked Vultures ... he was like 75 and playing crazy grooves and everything was looking so effortless
When people like Clapton and Baker used to look down on Bonham as just a basher I wonder if they've ever seen something like this. This solo is like a memoir from Bonham. He's showing you almost every tool in his bag. How to build tension and relieve it. Jazz, African, Funk, etc. It's all here.
I always thought Baker’s drumming sounded like he was banging on plastic paint cans.
Everybody hated Zepp for being a cover band. Just a really great one
and yes, exactly, he was a jazz drummer with serious chops and creativity.... he became known for heavy hitting later on as he gradually slowed down and had his issues with substance, but he was my favorite drummer because of his inventive funky jazzy creativity on the 1st five albums, which then started to subside somewhat after that, although with plenty of brilliant moments still through until his untimely demise.
Single bass drum which he stuck to all through the 70's when most rock drummers went double bass. He still nailed the solo until the very end of Zep. I was lucky to see them live on their last US tour at Day On The Green - Oakland Ca.
I thought that I had heard Plant say that when Bonham started doing drum solo's in their set, the audience just stared at him. This type of thing was not done back then . He brought drumming out of the shadows and into the light. No one could believe that he was that good
That's awesome Jim. It turns it into a performance/concert as opposed to a regular gig I guess. Very cool
Ginger Baker did it with Cream at the same venue the year before. Bonham did Moby as a response to Baker’s Toad
Awesome analogy! Enjoyed hearing a breakdown and appreciation from a drummers perspective. I grew up back then, (68 yo), and am a drummer, so he was a major influence. You can hear the Joe Morello influence and people didn't see the jazz tendencies John had. The power, speed, dynamics, drama, all rolled up in the solo. Ebbs and flows. Again, nice breakdown.
Never gets old
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He was 22 years old... passed away 10 years later in 1980...What a fabulous drummer. Led Zeppelin as a whole is my favorite bad... the bass/keyboardist, the vocals, the lead guitar and drummer all tick my band boxes
Yes Denise! Such a fantastic band :)
He was actually only 21 at this gig.......incredible
Can hear how Alex Van Halen pulled his Hot For Teacher intro from JB. Love your reaction when the band chimes back in!
Bonzo was only 22 years young when he played this legendary solo.
The sound on the drums was captured as best I have heard, they did not mess around with providing the best audio.
Enjoyed your critique. When you smile it's a good sign.
15 minutes for a drum solo??? John had the chops for it. He was so darn good!!!!!!!!!! Super talent.
It's a damn long solo. NEVER boring
Rock Gods in the time of so many greats!
I have a 6.5 Ludwig supraphonic, coated emperor on the top, a diplomat snare head on the bottom with 42 snare strand wires. I have that Exact sound!! Saw Zep three times in the 70s, I’ll never forget!!
EXCELLENT!
At some point, watch this drum solo while imaging being on the Pequod. Sailing the seas, sometimes calm, sometimes rough. Ever searching for signs of the great white whale.
Then you see it. Imagine the great and ferocious battle. Harpoons flying. Ropes pulled taught. The beast leaps and dives and struggles. A terrible, beautiful fight that leaves naught but destruction in its wake.
Ahab's obsession. Moby Dick's defiance.
It's all in there on that stage.
Love it Brian
BONZO!!!! The Thunder!!
Thanks for the video! Fair and balanced look at the best drummer ever! Great channel!
Saw/heard Moby Dick four times in concert. Awesome each time.
Great Louis!!!
Always amazes me how good these 60's, 70's drummers kits sounded. I'm a massive fan of this era of rock music and wonder with the evolution of drums and tech how they produced such a wicked sound.
The John Bonham's, Ian Paice's and Mitch Mitchell's certainly paved the way for not only great rock music but also the dynamics of future drum engineering.
Thanks for the videos Andrew, really enjoy your insight.
Great point Tony. I think a lot of it is the player. Needed great control and balance on such limited set ups and recording technology!
Bonzo tuned his drums in very specific way. His resonant were tuned slightly higher then his batter heads. And the overall tuning in general was higher then might think especially by todays standard.
Great review!
Yo! Thanks!
I was there, several times, at both the Spectrum and MSG. The audience was pretty much in total awe of what they were hearing and watching. The applause sometimes came during the piece when the audience just had to react to the performance, like after a tremendous trombone solo at a Mingus concert
This is from The film for 'the song remains the same', IIRC. We called it "The Bong Remains the Same"......
Your videos are amazing thank you.
John was an Absolute Fantastic Drummer!! A Miracle.
Best drummer to have graced this planet with his raw power and talent .
Oooohhhhh. Finally im gonna watch right now
The best to ever do it IMO. Dude was a man of fire.
I got my tea from a "Drums and Coffee" mug, headphones and the day off tomorrow. Let's kick it like Bonham, bro!
Bah bah bah bah baaaaah. We're loving it~!