I love that this is foreshadowing the ending with the hilltop Coke commercial. Basically Don created an AD with meaning which is what Peggy said she wanted to do during this review and Don scoffed at
All the people saying "Peggy is Don". NO. She's trying to emulate what she sees in him, however HE would like to be her: she's single-minded and makes the job her reason of living. We've seen the series and we know Don TRIES to make the job his life, but it's only because he has no life; his job doesn't really satisfy him but he ends up coming back to it as a solace. HE knows that! "So you think these things are unrelated?" He WISHES he could be as simple as Peggy. And that's the complexity of his character and why we love to watch him.
Yes, these two admire each other, always wanting what the other has, or seems to have. Watching them interact throughout the show was always entertaining.
Watch this scene and then go back and watch Peggy's first day in episode 1. Then she was a timid young girl being told by Joan not to be intimidated by the the "technology" (i.e., the typewriter, the phone, and the intercom) in order to be a secretary, and ten years later she's stating her ambition to become the first woman creative director of the agency.
Don isn't asking these questions to gauge Peggy as much as it's a reflective critique on his own banal existence. The writing will always be the winning point of this series for me.
Gotta hand it to Don - he is asking all the right questions. And kudos to him for actually pursuing substantive questions for her benefit instead of: yeah you're doing a great job *pats head*
He's asking the right questions but he's also being a bit shitty and dismissive, and using the performance review as an excuse to help himself think. I don't blame Peggy for getting annoyed.
@@darkale658 I think he was being dismissive because he wasn't actually satisfied with her answers because he thought those answers were too shallow. Especially considering that he had head Ted say the exact same thing to those questions. I always looked at this scene as if Don wanted Peggy to think more and think big
@@JamesNalacar No he had to write a direction statement for the agency. At that point he tried to go to Ted and other people for idea. Once again, when it comes to Peggy, Don takes her for granted and it's always about his own selfish, arrogant and egocentric self. He completely ignored what Peggy asked for and never even tried to give her a performance review. He is such a prick.
He needed to write a statement and was farming ideas from his staff. It turned into a good review but if Peggy had asked when her needs didn’t align with his own then I assume she would’ve had very different answers
I'm in my thirties and I can recall my parents, who were 32 and 18 in 1971, talking about that ad before Mad Men ever aired. I don't think people who don't understand the cultural significance of that ad really recognize just how good the ending to Mad Men was.
If you answer every answer with a question, eventually you circle back to the point and place of beginning. That seems to be the message of this clip. You can dodge, avoid and evade questions posed, those that require some thoughtful/hard answers, by deflecting and answering the question(s) with another question. Are the questions supposed to be the "answer" in a philosophical sort of sense? Yes? No? Maybe? Well there you have it - more questions and the final answer? That seems to be the point of this video.
i'll never understand the people in life who come after what i'm trying to do...because i don't have it and struggle in the process. specifically, they emphasize that work isn't their life...merely a means to an end, something they don't think about as soon as they punch out....and therefore, in the grand perspective, a given person does NOT need to be so specific about what they do - whatever pay the bills. I absolutely get that....and i don't begrudge ANY profession. Warehouse, sewers, writers, police, utilities, drivers,....we need it all, and whoever can do it well is a hero of willpower and motivation. However,...work is your life. It's too big a part of it not to earn that title. You have to reconcile or find SOME worth in what you do to keep yourself from walking out, getting fired, or killing yourself. Because you have a ton of jobs to choose from. In theory, many of them should take care of you. So how do you pick? Major question? And if your shitty warehouse job pays for your insurance or 401K or retirement or vacations....that's the meaning of life right there....how you want to spend your time and the latter portion of your life, whether for your children your spouse or yourself. And if you want to achieve something linked to your job, well, that's a no brainer. Work is life....it makes you miserable or makes you happy one way or another...and how you live is the closest to "meaning" you're gonna get.
@@williammccormick2802 it’s not “seeing politics”. Her dress just happens the same colors as the trans flag. Coincidence They’re not saying Peggy is a pioneer for trans people at the ad agency 🙄
She’s got a serious attitude problem. Wants nothing but praise for everything she ever does in her life. It’s a great character and performance but she’s gotta be the most miserable person in that office.
She doesn’t want praise she wants credit. She’s one of the best in the office and everyone secretly loves her for her work. Wanting feedback doesn’t mean u always expect praise, besides Don is a mentor figure to her
No, she's ambitious and wants the success that Don has. Don's asking all these questions because he himself has already HAD that success, and now that he realizes it's not fulfilling, is trying to figure out what the point of it all is. They're both miserable, but Peggy because she is chasing after the brass ring, and Don because he's got it and still isn't happy.
I always think Don asked these questions for his sake, he was at that point of his life he really didn't know how to self actualize. He needed ideas
No he had to write a statement for the agency and went to everyone to give him ideas.
@@ykMMD even so, Eric’s comment still holds water
Love how Don kept Lane's Mets pennant. This show always got the little details right.
Except for the merger episode where on the projector the handwritten "Sterling" is in two different penmanship in back to back scenes.
Meet the Mets!
Mets were losers in ‘65 and winners in ‘69.
@@fuzzprobe lol spoken like a loser of all decades, hurt people hurt people just like what I’m doing to you now.
That pennant would do well on an episode of "Antiques Roadshow"
I love that this is foreshadowing the ending with the hilltop Coke commercial. Basically Don created an AD with meaning which is what Peggy said she wanted to do during this review and Don scoffed at
All the people saying "Peggy is Don". NO. She's trying to emulate what she sees in him, however HE would like to be her: she's single-minded and makes the job her reason of living. We've seen the series and we know Don TRIES to make the job his life, but it's only because he has no life; his job doesn't really satisfy him but he ends up coming back to it as a solace. HE knows that! "So you think these things are unrelated?" He WISHES he could be as simple as Peggy. And that's the complexity of his character and why we love to watch him.
hm, definitely an interesting take. not sure I 100% agree, but I see alot of truth to what you're saying
Yes, these two admire each other, always wanting what the other has, or seems to have. Watching them interact throughout the show was always entertaining.
“That’s funny to you?” Lmao
Watch this scene and then go back and watch Peggy's first day in episode 1. Then she was a timid young girl being told by Joan not to be intimidated by the the "technology" (i.e., the typewriter, the phone, and the intercom) in order to be a secretary, and ten years later she's stating her ambition to become the first woman creative director of the agency.
When you have the right parents, right boss, right mentor, right friends, etc. anything is possible.
How do you know it was 10 years later?
@@bardgold4553 if only everyone could be that lucky to have the “right” everything all at once.
@@StephenASmithESPN The first episode took place in March 1960, and this episode was set during the fall of 1970.
@@cameronray4107Some of those things you can seek out on your own. Some you just get stuck with
Don isn't asking these questions to gauge Peggy as much as it's a reflective critique on his own banal existence. The writing will always be the winning point of this series for me.
Peggy is Don in a skirt!
Gotta hand it to Don - he is asking all the right questions. And kudos to him for actually pursuing substantive questions for her benefit instead of: yeah you're doing a great job *pats head*
He's asking those questions to help himself think lol. Context of this scene he's supposed to come up with the direction for the agency
He's asking the right questions but he's also being a bit shitty and dismissive, and using the performance review as an excuse to help himself think. I don't blame Peggy for getting annoyed.
@@darkale658 I think he was being dismissive because he wasn't actually satisfied with her answers because he thought those answers were too shallow. Especially considering that he had head Ted say the exact same thing to those questions. I always looked at this scene as if Don wanted Peggy to think more and think big
@@JamesNalacar No he had to write a direction statement for the agency. At that point he tried to go to Ted and other people for idea. Once again, when it comes to Peggy, Don takes her for granted and it's always about his own selfish, arrogant and egocentric self. He completely ignored what Peggy asked for and never even tried to give her a performance review. He is such a prick.
@@JamesNalacar Her answer "to create something of lasting value" is already thinking very big, nothing about that is shallow.
This show! I've watched it three times and want to do it again.
He needed to write a statement and was farming ideas from his staff. It turned into a good review but if Peggy had asked when her needs didn’t align with his own then I assume she would’ve had very different answers
Remember, he had to write an essay on the future of the company and he was milking everyone for ideas.
Ironically Don is (seemingly) the one who created possibly the most famous ad of all time.
Which one?
@@larissarosa3008 The Coke ad at the very end of the series.
@@maxhydekyle2425 thank you for answering.
yup I think he remembered Peggy saying "create a catch phrase" and "create something of lasting value" as he came up with the coke pitch
I'm in my thirties and I can recall my parents, who were 32 and 18 in 1971, talking about that ad before Mad Men ever aired. I don't think people who don't understand the cultural significance of that ad really recognize just how good the ending to Mad Men was.
Loving Peggy’s outfit!! 🏳️⚧️
If you answer every answer with a question, eventually you circle back to the point and place of beginning. That seems to be the message of this clip. You can dodge, avoid
and evade questions posed, those that require some thoughtful/hard answers, by deflecting and answering the question(s) with another question. Are the questions supposed
to be the "answer" in a philosophical sort of sense? Yes? No? Maybe? Well there you have it - more questions and the final answer? That seems to be the point of this video.
I wonder if he's asking her so he can tell himself "what's next."
Seeing Don with a blue shirt feels wrong .
I love how she says ‘is that on there?’ Don is always stealing other people’s ideas haha!
0:40 “That’s what I’m asking…what’s next?” Maybe Don’s looking for answers to copy off Peggy, bc he himself can’t answer his own questions
i'll never understand the people in life who come after what i'm trying to do...because i don't have it and struggle in the process. specifically, they emphasize that work isn't their life...merely a means to an end, something they don't think about as soon as they punch out....and therefore, in the grand perspective, a given person does NOT need to be so specific about what they do - whatever pay the bills. I absolutely get that....and i don't begrudge ANY profession. Warehouse, sewers, writers, police, utilities, drivers,....we need it all, and whoever can do it well is a hero of willpower and motivation. However,...work is your life. It's too big a part of it not to earn that title. You have to reconcile or find SOME worth in what you do to keep yourself from walking out, getting fired, or killing yourself. Because you have a ton of jobs to choose from. In theory, many of them should take care of you. So how do you pick? Major question? And if your shitty warehouse job pays for your insurance or 401K or retirement or vacations....that's the meaning of life right there....how you want to spend your time and the latter portion of your life, whether for your children your spouse or yourself. And if you want to achieve something linked to your job, well, that's a no brainer. Work is life....it makes you miserable or makes you happy one way or another...and how you live is the closest to "meaning" you're gonna get.
I thought Peggy left?
She did, but the agency she joined merged with Sterling Cooper in order to land the Chevy account.
Blue shirt don 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
She's so adorable. Love her top.. Looks like the same colours as the Transgender Flag.
Nope
Classic example of people seeing politics where there isn't.
@@williammccormick2802 People like these will create politics even at instances where there isn't any at all. This is just attention seeking going on
@@williammccormick2802 "politics" why is people existing politics to you?
@@williammccormick2802 it’s not “seeing politics”. Her dress just happens the same colors as the trans flag. Coincidence
They’re not saying Peggy is a pioneer for trans people at the ad agency 🙄
Peggy's outfit said trans rights
Just looked it up...not even close.
@@shawnbrodrick8673 You... looked up trans rights?
@@johnbaker1773 yeah...competition is good🥴
pink and blue remind us that Peggy is forging her own path, the intersectionality of her "Masculine" work goals and "Feminine" outside.
She’s got a serious attitude problem.
Wants nothing but praise for everything she ever does in her life.
It’s a great character and performance but she’s gotta be the most miserable person in that office.
She doesn’t want praise she wants credit. She’s one of the best in the office and everyone secretly loves her for her work. Wanting feedback doesn’t mean u always expect praise, besides Don is a mentor figure to her
No, she's ambitious and wants the success that Don has. Don's asking all these questions because he himself has already HAD that success, and now that he realizes it's not fulfilling, is trying to figure out what the point of it all is. They're both miserable, but Peggy because she is chasing after the brass ring, and Don because he's got it and still isn't happy.
Don’s the most miserable person in the office, and it shows by the cynical way he treats Peggy’s dreams. He was a real asshole in here.
Dude, you're Canadian, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE NICE.
She learned her lesson early on not to expect praise when Don told her “That’s what the money is for”.
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