Parker Boats - Crooked Pilot House Boat Another Manufacture Defect
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Fishing Tropical Caribbean Destinations and staying on board a Small 21 Feet Crooked Pilot House boat .
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I saw one of the other videos about the side window frames filling with water and leaking inside. Possible fix for that would be drilling some drain holes or slots on the outside of the window frame so the water has somewhere to drain.
Great channel! I enjoy watching the storm videos.
Thanks for the tip! cap i will look into it and thanks for watching my channel cap.👍⚓
I've never really heard too many good things about Parker Boats. They look nice, but I guess that's about it.
Their quality is going down cap
If only the quality issues were better, you would have been the best salesperson that Parker ever had. Thanks Captain for keeping us informed!
Great point cap. i know this boats inside out at this point , i should be their quality control Manager😉👍👍
@@OutOnTheReef I hear ya. I work in manufacturing. When a company's customer become the quality control, that's a problem !
@@markdimaio8396 You are a 100% right captain. Because that means they're slacking
I hate that you’ve had issues with this boat, Cap. I think it’s a beautiful boat, and probably well constructed overall, but the little things can drive you nuts. Well, I guess water intrusion isn’t a “little thing”, but sometimes you just gotta be your own engineer. You seem to be good at that.
thanks and yes it drives me nuts but i will live with it 😉👍⚓
Pull the rub rail, replace the seal, do it right. The way you have done it runs the risk of trapping water and making the issue worse. Good DIY video.
Awesome suggestion and yes, I think you are a 100% right, captain.
@@OutOnTheReef is what will happen. I know from experience
@@fredbrad thanks Fred
Agree, 5200 where cap meets gunnel and each screws. and convince buddy to help stretch rubrail when replacing.
@@exfaraldo thanks cap
I think it's just your little war between you and Parker boats in regards to the unlevel floor.
That and all the other crooked part of the pilothouse issues captain , this boat has been a terrible factory mess
Great job, Captain. Good finds and solutions. You are right about Florida heat, I just got back from Naples about an hour ago. The heat and humidity were tough on me.
Enjoy Naples, captain.I do have family there as beautiful and thank you for watching
My favorite Captain and my favorite boat, and thank you for all the sprinter information!
You bet! cap and thanks for watching both of my channels cap you rock
I have a 2023 2320. Cap was not sealed. Front hatch was not sealed. All roof penatrations were leaking. All fixed now. Still love the boat.
Wow cap. That is what im talking about, this company at this ege they still screwing up they need better quality control, if they fox this problems i think they can improve, enjoy your Non Crooked PilotHouse Boat cap.
Great advice! Thanks for sharing! 😎👍
You bet! cap and great to hear from you cap, have a great night
Another great informative video. Thanks Capt
thanks buddy for watching 😉👍
tú te imaginas si tú tuvieras la alfombra pegada al barco y le empieza entrar toda esa agua la peste que coge a humedad y que coge moho increíble capitan las cosas que hacen estas compañías baratas
si capitan y estos barcoas balen ahora 100k cuando tenia la carpeta siempre estaba mojada por eso la quite
You likely use all our most of the 4200 tube but if you didn't and want to perseve it for future use, use a vaccum food sealer to seal the tube in and then keep it in your freezer. Will lay indefinitely.
thanks for the awesome suggestion cap👍⚓
Great job on the caulking. I need to do that same thing on my 24 year old boat at the rubrail. Why 4200 over 5200?
4200 is removable and 5200 is permanent cap.
@@OutOnTheReef got it thanks
RUST?! How are they not using 316SS hardware?! WOW>
My Arima Sea Legend has a lot of sealant up under the rub rail where your Parker is leaking.
I really wanted a Parker, but it seems i wound up with the better choice, despite only having a curtain and not a bulkhead.
thanks cap and enjoy that Arima 👍
Hey captain, I like what you did. May I suggest, come winter, you pull the rub rail completely off, and seal the joint, then reinstall the rub rail. I think that would be 100%
i think you have the right choice cap, during winter is a great time to do that , thanks buddy
Wow cap! You know, we went to the Palm beach boat show and Parker had a boat there. If you watch the video, you can see that the hatch in the cabin above the berth was leaking! 🤦🏻 so it seems it’s still an ongoing issue for them! 🤙
Thank you, captain and yes, the quality control service still stinks on that company. They need to improve if they don't. This company is gonna go bankrupt in the future.
is almost like local indonesia fiberboat .is always rubber ring or seal,,can find local from sulawesi and my own was made from Bali island,,is beach boat builder. keep smiliing on weak become plus and make channel famous. and you always allowed us sat on your boat and cheers all day..
You are awesome Aga thanks for always being a passenger and please dont take my coffee machine 😂
Thank Cap. Always make sure… Props Clear! I hope they see this video, and they should take into consideration all your knowledge of that particular vessel to make better changes for new editions. You would help them a lot.
That would help the company inprove quality for sure cap
Thanks
I’m glad you took the time to do a video on preventive maintenance to your boat… thank you
You bet! Williams thanks for watching cap
I recommend using isopropyl alcohol. Regular alcohol has oils in it that can affect adhesion.
thanks cap i did not know that thanks
@@OutOnTheReef Thank you for your amazing videos!!!
@@randolphbehm877 Any time captain and thank you for being part of my channel
My 2003 had the same issue. Fixed with $10 of silicone and it was done.
How did you apply the silicone cap, did you do it like me?
@@OutOnTheReef Yes. You mention the boat separating. That will not happen. These boats are overbuilt and will last a lifetime. My ‘03 is as solid as the day it was new. If this is the biggest issue you have with it, you’re doing well.
@@timrudy4359 check this other problem cap. It will blow your mind
And tell me what you think
czcams.com/video/9Klne1ssh7k/video.htmlfeature=shared
Did they not offer to remedy? Is the boat structurally defected? Cmon man, you have to know by now that for a 21’ these things are over built and can handle a lot. Crawl all over a 20 year old mass produced boat of a lesser builder and you will count your blessings with a Parker.
@timrudy4359 but 1 1/2 inches Crooked that is terrible, And they never offer me a new boat. What they offer me was a rebuild the one I have.
I wish all boat owners took as much care with maintenance as you cap!
thank you and yes they need maintenance because they are expensive boats so they can hold their value
It's a shame that the manufacturer would allow those flaws to leave the factory. Nice job, calm seas Capt.
im surprise my self cap, thanks for watching
I have the same issue with my 2020 Beneteau Antares 7, I was wondering where the small amount of water in my cabin was coming from. I bet its the same issue. Will look at my rub rail this weekend. Thanks for sharing!
awesome cap i hope you find your leak that drives us creasy 🤣
Skipp My Grady did the same thing, used the same product never had a problem after, isn't it amazing what salt water does to everything. If you fish salt water your forever beating back the abuse the sea does to your boat
Yes i agree cap we love the ocean but the ocean dont like any tipe of metals🤣
Great Job. I'm surprised Parker didn't seal that better, it's not a cheap boat by any means.
im surprise my self cap thanks
But what about all your rusted bolts Captain. What did manufacturer say to you about possibly replacing the rusted bolts?
I have not contacted my manufacturer because they voided my warranty because the crooked pilothouse problem that did not get solved cap.
Remove the bump strip and all of the bolts. Fibreglass the inside where the hull and deck meets then glass the exterior where the hull and deck meets. Install bump strip then caulk it once more. Job done.
That os 100% better choice cap. Thanks
Very nice work cap.
thanks cap i have to be on tot of the Crooked Pilothouse so it doesn't fall apart
These boats are over 100k new. There are no excuses for issues like these. Time to move onto a Steiger Craft.
in think you have a point cap 👍
yessss. built in my home town bellport ny
I would make them give me another boat. Looks like a drunk person built that boat.
Aluminum boats will take over soon these fiberglass boats are bs
There's a reason he calls his You Tube Channel "Crooked Pilot House" bc nothing was square or straight.
For the cost of these you can get an aluminum boat with every electronic you want at 23-25 foot. I'm working with gospelboats for one.
Awesome, captain.I will check them out.I have never heard of them before.Thanks for the recommendation
Yup, they're cutting corners AND using cheap materials (stainless steel nuts and bolts).
very sad cap because this boats are 100k
Generally there is adhesive sealant applied before they join the top cap or liner/cap to the hull. Appears they missed it on your boat. I'm guessing this was a pandemic constructed boat as standards went into the toilet during that period. What you should do is remove the rub rail, apply sealant as best you can into the joint and then replace the rub rail. Assuming you still have any warranty period and haven't pissed off the dealership, ask them to fix it.
Hello captain and this was 2 year before covid started so you can imagine how terrible they did during covid and thanks for the advice cap.
Hey there Skipper, what you have done is a good "For now" fix but what I think you should do at the end of the season is take the fender rubber right off and replace all the through screws for marine grade stainless steel ones, these should`nt be rusting, and bearing in mind that you use your boat and not sit and look at it, you should fibreglass the two mouldings together, inside and out if you can, especially in the house. Thats what I would do anyway,, its a permanent fix. Great video again Capt, be good and look forward to the next one.
That is a awesome fix cap i like your idea thank you
Buenas noches Capi desde Barcelona desgraciadamente este problema se da casi en todas las marcas en mi caso Merry Fissher 655 y de un amigo Ocquecteau 8,30 es un tema pendiente de soluccion de algunos astilleros,saludos espero que llegue el buen tiempo para ver mas videos tuyos.Un abrazo.
muy cierto capi y muchas gracias por ver mis videos desde Barcelona un abrazo capi 👍
Hi Capt.... It's a shame you, or anyone else has to deal with these kind of leaks. So far I have been lucky with our Parker; no window leaks, and no gunnel-seam leaks. But, I still deal with the leak from the windlass-rode-feed hole, into the anchor locker, running water through the bilge to the stern.... It's a great tip you gave to use the butyl sealant around the windows, and the 4200 at the gunnel seam.... Our last boat had 3 large Bomar hatches, and 19 Gebo windows. (Half were fixed/non opening). We had the boat for 28 years, but after 24 years, 4 of the windows started leaking. I completely removed all of the windows and hatches, and started over; Prepping the openings, grinding, sanding and scraping away what was left of the old sealants. When I re-installed the windows, I used a similar butyl sealant like you used. It totally sealed the aluminum frames to the hull fiberglass; no leaks.... Thank you for another informative video!
Hello cap , your boat is better build because in the past they took more pride on their work and yes butyl is awesome cap and it gives strength to the window and wow cap 28 years with your boat that was a long time, thanks for your comment cap and we learn from each other 😉👍
esas ventanas de los barcos deberían de hacerla que abran hacia fuera no que de adentro abran hacia adentro para eliminar la entrada de agua esos son malos diseños
eso es tremenda idea capitan tu si saves de ingieneria yo no abia pensado eso
Captain, is the top of the rail sealed? You wouldn’t want water to get in from there and now it can’t drain out the bottom. Then the screws and bolts never dry. Maybe leave a couple drain holes. I had to do that with my leaky windows. Good luck!
great point cap i was thinking of that but it very fitted on the top side , thanks for the great point cap.
You should have Mrs captain spray the hull with a hose from the outside while you film from the inside
that is something i did not think cap thanks
Always awesome cap.
thanks cap 😉👍
Hey Capt. I have same model and engine 8 yrs old2016 …keep it at the slip and I’m noticing when it rains I’m getting puddles towards the pilot house not flushing out the back like it should? Was wondering if you notice the same issue……Thanks
Thanks for sharing cap and my question is have you added a heavy chain in the anchor looker or added extra weigh towers the front and i read once about a parker boat anchor looker drain getting clogged and it got front heavy because of that, check those things out cap. and let me know if that checks out for now, keep me updated cap so we can learn to trouble shoot problem like this to help other Parker owners 👍
Haven’t changed anything in bow…did check anchor locker for clogs didn’t notice anything just kinda sits more bow heavy as the boat aged and is annoying to walk into a puddle in the cockpit whenever it rains
@hiroller27 I have the same problem cap. And One thing I can think of is remember.Parker uses Foam fill on the boats And if There's a cavity that water goes into the Foam ,What's gonna happen is that Water will be absorbed by the foam and would not leave the out of bilge
I think that may be your problem.And if it is the only way to find out is drilling to the phone from the top And if it is parker is really sucking at building boat.
Let me know what you think of that idea
It's just not your Parker, it's all production boats with the deck to hull joint.
It's just that 95% don't use their boats as hard as you. Like they're meant to.
I was a boat dealer for many brands from 98, until 2016.
The customers that ran their boats hard and had the same issue. We would pull the rubrail and thrue bolt as much as we could. Then fill everything with 5200 fast cure, then reinstall or replace the rubrail.
Very true, captain. Some people just navigate a couple of hours and I am out there in the open ocean. Pounding the waves. So I am the one that really is putting this book to the test. And it's not passing the test
The problem is without taking b the rubrail off the salt etc that is under there is trapped and you didn't treat any of it. Eventually they will completely rust. Now will this cause a failure? Doubtful but at some point in a few years it may be. I personally would pull rubrail and replace whatever bolts need it and rust encapsulate the rest and replace rubrail.. very nice boat and of course for me it's easier because I'm retired but keeping the boat long term it would be worth it.
I agree 100% with you cap , that choice will be the best one for keeping my boat a long time. Thanks cap
To do it right you need to pull the rubber rail and all the hardware off so you can see the hull and cap silicon all around were the two meet then make sure to go back with Marine grade stainless steel hardware that is silicone in the place then install the rubber rail guaranteed no more leaks.
great suggestion cap ,that is what most viewer are saying , thanks cap.
While putting 4200/5200 is your best bet, the manufacturer should have joined the deck correctly. The shells should have been coupled together with an industrial epoxy. This is not only for water intrusion, but more importantly strength.
Very true cap and since this boats are made for open ocean navigation they need the extra strength
Parker seem to have no pride in their work and craftsmanship what a lemon!
yes cap and did you see how Crooked My boat is in this video czcams.com/video/9Klne1ssh7k/video.htmlsi=T-gNgEEk8tU02sLc
Like and share.
thanks Curtis you are awesome cap.
That was fun to watch. I know Parker boats are very good boats and they have a very very good reputation. You are the man I love the video. 🫡😀
Thanks 👍 ralph for watching
It's not the rub rail that's leaking, it's the hull to deck joint. Those are SS screws and while they can show rust weeping they are prob OK. Your using the boat in heavy waves is flexing the hull deck joint causing the leaking. Remove the rub rail, clean and caulk the seam. Also Parker boats are built strong but they are work boats, fit and finish secondary.
Hello, captain Ann. When I was at sea, I saw the water coming through the boat not through the joint. And yes, that is a great suggestion.Thank you for helping out captain
@@OutOnTheReef Then the screws are leaking. Rub rail is just a bumper around the boat
@davidroseman9586 good point but is there was no gaps in the rub rail this will not be happening cap
@@davidroseman9586 and this Been happening since day one
@@OutOnTheReef I agree the rub rail gap is not helping at all but you should be able to run that boat with no rub rail at all and stay bone dry. I used to own a new 2520XL, it was a great boat but I knew it was a rough built work boat and I had allot of silly issues. Take the rub rail off change and reculk the deck screws etc. Should be good to go.
Hopefully you caught it before it becomes a big problem.
Yes cap or a accident on the water wen the boat comes apart
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Thanks for that! Francus 😁😉👍
Parker should hire you as their Q/A expert. They obviously have an opening at that position. It's very disappointing to see a reputedly high-quality product at very high prices delivered to customers only to frustrate the owners.
i agree cap, and i will apply to see if i get hire and yes this mistakes are easy to fix at productions .
I own the MayCraft version and it comes from the factory caulked behind the rub rail. I’ve offered wondered why and now I know.
i wish this manufacture did mine the write way
Capt. Please consider sealing the top of the rub rail also. I had a similar issue and after sealing the lower rail it still leaked until I caulked the top rail.
Great suggestion cap. I will try to do this for now thanks for sharing your experience cap. You are awesome
Time for a Steiger Cap... that boat has been a headache for you from day one...
I think that will fix it buddy I've got to chase down a few leaks on my boat to I think it's the windows my boat turned 41 this year have a good one buddy don't catch them all
hello cap and wow 41 years that boat is part of the family cap
Nice vid captain. However I would recommend you remove the rub rail. Treat the screws in there with crc anti rust coating to stop the corrosion. Coating never dries. We used it in Panama all the time with great success. Rub rail screws are those that you are looking at on the chrome trim. Those screws should be long and go into the side to hold rub rail and chrome trim strip in place along the boat. Rub rail easy to uninstall and reinstall. At least you used 4200. 5200 is he** to get off. Once rub rail is off, you can really get to the side there where rub rail mounts with alcohol and clean it up so 4200 adheres well.
thanks for the awesome suggestion cap i agree 👍
Wow! That boat does not have a warranty? Incredible! Maybe it might time to move up and buy another boat.
That is a great choice but im out of funds i spent it all on the Crooked pilothouse boat
They skimped on the stainless. Didn't use 316. Don't jury rigg. Pull the rub rauil off and do it right.
good point cap.
That is terrible. Maybe we should start a "go fund me". That way you can buy a 50' Sea Ray, and your favorite fans, can travel to the Bahamas with you. You will also be the designated chef. But we'll have to discuss the Corana beer preference??? 😂😂😂😂
lol cap . if that happens we will have all brands of beers 😁😉👍
I was delivering a CT54 sailing vessel from HA to CA, and the deck to hull joint snapped almost completely around the whole boat. Worst storm I had ever been in, biggest waves too. Very wet and scary ride for the last four days. Where the two are joined together, which is with most boats, it cannot be seen without pulling many things off, water is seen leaking in, or until complete failure. Great informative video, Capt. Thanks for making this vid and telling others! Stay safe!
wow cap that was scary trip but im glad you made it safe and thanks for watching cap.
flex seal- Phil Swift
thanks cap
No way anyone should get a Parker boat, poor quality... Thank you for the videos cap!
i agree they need to improve on their quality
That sealant is going to shrink and crack. It will not last. You need to remove that strip completely and seal it right. Additionally since you can access that seam so easily on the inside, i would seal the crap out of that too. Fix it once. Good luck captain!.
Great suggestion cap. I like it
The 4200 is a good band aid fix but really that whole hull to cap/deck king should be glassed together.
that would be the perfect fix cap thanks
That's called a rub rail, not a bumper .
Lol you know im a rookie 🤣thanks cap
We have the same model from Parker and we had the same issue. Our dealer took it apart and sealed it up for us under warranty.
so this is a problem that they know about it wow
@@OutOnTheReefthe hardware on the inside of my 21se is rusted I just assumed it’s the shit hardware they use that rusts all over the boat. My boat is in a slip but will check when I get down to it
@@DLeopoldi914 very sad cap sorry to hear that
@@OutOnTheReef I am in a center console and have access to the backside. May be as easy as use a silicone on the backside. Boat sits in a slip I will use a hose on the gunnels and see if someone can put their hand on the backside and feel anything. If anything I will use probably a clear sealant by starbeite. That 4200 yellows in the sun and looks like crap. Pettit even has Anchor tech which is a product that is uv proof
@@DLeopoldi914 awesome choice cap.
I have 2320 crooked pilot house, I will need to look for this defect now captain. Thanks for the public service announcements!
Good luck! cap and hope your Crooked PilotHouse is ok
capt crooked you know you have the only Crooked Pilot House other wise your name wouldn’t be worldwide known. JT HOOKED N ROLLING OFFSHORE 🇺🇸🇺🇸🐟🐠🎣🛥🌴
hull must have been a reject!!! but they didnt want to lose money , so they sold you thinking or not knowing that you were such a meticulous boat owner and user.... love ur boat and ur adventures..
lol cap you are right someone else would not seen this things , you know me to well 😁👍👍
I paid about the same for a 21 Whaler and its built top notch! (but no cabin)
they are great quality cap 👍
This is not the proper fix to your issues. You need to remove that rub rail and clean with acetone in between the cap and Hull and then seal with 4200! The rub rail goes back on using 4200 on screw holes as well but I don’t use any thing to seal rub rail! As long as you seal cap to hull and all the screws water will not penetrate.
very true cap that needs to be done soon thanks
My Parker 2120 is a 2013 model. Zero leaks.
wow one of a kind cap because lots of parker owners are complaining here about leaks
Did you ever try to drill drain holes in the outside tracks of the side windows?
no i haven't cap, do you think that will work?
@@OutOnTheReef my side windows are a little different setup, but the outside rails do have drain holes from the factory. If they didnt, or they got plugged up, i could see how the water would fill the chanel and overflow inside...
That rub rail fix is not a good fix. Water can come in on the top of the rub rail. It will hold water and rust the bolts more and likely enter the boat. The rub rail needs to come off, and the hull joint needs to be caulked.
Ues you are 100%correct cap. This was a quick fix but i need to do that
Wow captain that’s very concerning. Imagine the top cap comes loose while you are navigating! Don’t you have hull warranty thru Parker? I would have them evaluate the entire boat . Good luck with that and be safe
they expire my warranty because of the Crooked Pilot house problem we had in the past, im on my own cap.
Hey captain! Have you taught about getting a new different boat?
hello and no because is not in my budget , the Crooked Pilothouse is here to stay for a wile
That rub rail material will shrink over time-may have been an issue even if Parker did caulk it from the factory. The other thing is-The carpet you removed years ago would have soaked up the water as it was coming in and you would’ve only seen stains on it.
I’m sure every Parker pilot house has the same issue and has water stains on the carpet that lines the cabin walls.
A lot of other comments here suggested removing and replacing the through bolts with better quality stainless fasteners. With that you would be removing the rub rail to get to them-so you can also replace the black gasket material as well.What you did here will certainly hold up for a while but overhauling the whole thing is the right way to fix it.
May be time to consider a “Level Pilot house”--Boston Whaler Conquest 345-- it’s only about $850,000
385k 👀 my wife will go bananas if i do that cap and thanks for your helpful comment cap👍
@@OutOnTheReef a new 345 Conquest is way more than $385k.Bruh-keep her happy and caulk your new Stainless through bolts…
Nice to talk to you again-it’s been a while
@@johnm5714 nice to talk to you too cap
Million dollar question....." Would you buy another Crooked Pilot House " ..🚤⚓⚓⚓
i ran out of money cap this is my last boat Crooked PilotHouse is here to stay
Parker. Get this man a new boat. This is your fault. Make it right.
Lol cap. Im waiting everyday for that outcome but i thought it
I’ve got a 27 foot pilot house for sale. Move away from Parker twin outboards more gas more range!
what is the brand and size cap.
2:07 speaking, pause, oops- rusty noises 😂
lol cap
Parker never known for good boats.
now i know cap
@@OutOnTheReef still love the content lol. Would love to meet you out on the water. Im in Miami
Boston Whaler Conquest is their version of the pilot house they're pricey but a great boat. Best of luck to you
yes that is my dream boat cap and yes the pilothouse is my favorite of Boston Whaler
You might consider pulling the rub rail to see if there's some separation occurring or bolts rusted out.
good point cap i may have to do that before my boat falls apart at sea 🤣
@@OutOnTheReef I knew of an older Ocean sportfish (flexible flier😂) that it happened to. Split at the bow, almost lost the boat.
You need to update your branding: Crooked Leaky Pilot House
lol 🤣😂🤣
which mean Parker is made cheaper than what they made it sound to be or the QC person is doing a great job. That section to the bottom hull and top side section should have been sealed with silicone when both were joined.
i agree cap but not in this Crooked PilotHouse boat
Rust never sleeps😮
yes sir is our enemy 😂
Urs was also crooked
yes but yours is not?
I sure do like Parker boats. I want to buy one down the road when I live closer to the ocean. Thanks Captain
awesome cap maybe i will see you in the ocean cap 👍
Did you call Parker? Did you talk to the dealer?
No cap Paker voided my warranty because i did not geta the Crooked pilothouse fix with them 7 years ago so im on my own cap
Hey Capt., if I were you I would remove the rub-rail completely to see what further damage is under there. There could be more corrosion and damage underneath there…especially as this is a safety issue as that is where the cap is connected/bonded to the hull. Hope it all works out. 👍🏼
great suggestion cap thanks
Agreed, Im afraid the hull/deck joint and through bolts need to be resealed. I had a similar issues with a larger boat. Had to remove the rub rail, remove failed adhesive from the joint, shoot it full, the apply more adhesive to reseal the rub rail… good luck.
@@johnlove4183 exactly, I had the same issue on a 31‘ center console and when the rubrail was removed there was definitely more work to be done to make her seaworthy again.
Remove rub rail and replace bolts with new stainless steel 316. Than fill with caulk
@@yunierperez8987 Defo, I don`t understand how anyone can not use anything other than 316 in such a hostile environment, I used to fit out boats and re engine some older ones for customers, how they think that mild steel, zinc or cad plated is going to last god only knows.
Mine came sealed with urethane sealer in 05. Buy some black 4200
that's great cap mine they forgot i guess
Cap'n, your next boat should be a STEIGERCRAFT pilothouse! It is exactly the same style as yours, but it comes with a LIFETIME hull warranty. 😉
That would be cool! cap.
Hi MikeyDee, I agree Steiger Craft makes a great boat, (although a tad unattractive ☺) but their Lifetime Hull Warranty does not cover a hull-to-deck gunnel leak like the one OOTR is experiencing. It covers 'structural' failures, and a leak of this type does not fall under that category. I'm not saying Steiger would not fix one of their boats with this kind of issue; I don't know.
@andrewfyakim525 thats a greatvpoint Andrew 👍
I use to work for Regal Boats between 1993-2003 and work on the assembly line doing nail and rail and back them after we seat the deck on top of the hall we use to seal all around with marine caulking and after we install the rub rail and insert we also caulking the insert all around to avoid leaks between the haul and the deck.
wow cap that was a great practice and i have visited the Regal Facility before is very interesting place, thanks for your comment
#Parkerboats the most important Captain in company history! 📢📢 Full steam ahead ⚓
thanks cap 😉👍👍👍⚓
Cap'n, I don't think you understand how your hull-deck joint is assembled. To picture how your hull-deck joint was made, imagine an old style shoe box: The lid's top folds down on all 4 sides and fits over the top edge of the box. That's basically what you have there. The black vinyl trim (and half oval stainless strip on top of it) are to serve as a lightweight rub rail and cosmetic finish. The hull-deck joint seal does not come from the vinyl trim; that lies outside the hull-deck joint. Instead, it appears the choice of the builder was to place a thick mastic material (perhaps butyl tape) all around the top outside edge of the 'box' (the hull), then place the deck mold over the hull so the edge of the deck mold overlaps the top of the hull mold by an inch or more. The two are then fastened together by fasteners every so many inches, drawing the deck mold's edge and top edge of the hull together. This (is supposed to) squeeze the two molds together and form a tight seal thanks to the tape. This method eventually leads to what is called 'panting' in a seaway, just like a dog pants when it's hot, as the hull flexes from wave impacts and opens up little sections of the joint between the fasteners.. Cover that joint up with vinyl strips and stainless strips and this can't be seen. Based on what you are showing us, I'd say the root cause of your problem is the inexpensive method for attaching the hull to the deck, made worse by what appears to be a fastener pattern that doesn't have them close enough together. (Your video makes it look like the fasteners were placed every 10" or so, tho' it's hard to tell). Beyond that, the mastic material may have originally been undersized and/or not up to the task that was asked of it, and it is now aged and not as resilient. (I'll bet you didn't have this problem when you first used the boat). Unfortunately, if I'm correct about the hull-deck joint being used, your sealant application won't help as you can't really get the sealant into the hull-deck joint. One last point: It is possible to use this hull-deck joint method successfully. You marry the two molds together, just like the shoe box, and then apply multiple strips of fiberglass & resin over the joint to make the hull & deck molds into one completed monocoque structure. It's a big job to do this now....but if you only do it in the cabin area of the hull, where you mostly have good access, perhaps it's worth considering. I suggest you invite a marine surveyor over to have a look. He/she will know immediately if my description of the joint and its consequences are on the right track.
Captain Crooked wont do that to the boat
awesome suggestions cap thanks for taking your time to explain it to me it really helps
Look to me that you were in the boat manufacturing business at some point.
What a poor way of joining the top to the hull's gunnel / gunwale. You'd better seal the top edge, too. That way, water doesn't come in from the top and accumulate underneath the rubber trim and promote more rust.
yes cap that is another concern , i may have to go and take the whole rail off to inspect
@@OutOnTheReef I had a Wellcraft in the 1970's and 1980's with the same problem. Under the rub-rail, it had small steel bolts, which were rusting. I replaced them all with high quality stainless steel bolts and large fender washers on the inside and outside of the boat (to prevent the bolts from pulling through the fiberglass). I also used stainless, prevailing torque nuts.
Welcome to owning a boat bro. It’s not a piano. Everything. Than can leak will leak over time.
very true cap but this is been happening since day one i just did not find it
Sad we pay the money we do for or boats and this is what we get my R222 was real bad on the back booth sides of the motor they did the same thing u did crazy New and have to deal with this
wow cap sorry to hear that and yes we pay a lot but get very little quality