Harley FXR Ultima Evo 127 Tear down PT.1

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024

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  • @shadetreesurgeon
    @shadetreesurgeon Před 2 lety +17

    I'm glad someone is actually making a video on these engines, info on them is so scarce its almost unbelievable

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +6

      I agree man, I'm on the fence about building this one while its down this far or just replacing the cam and lifters then going till it blows

  • @godfellas483
    @godfellas483 Před 2 lety +11

    I had a Torque Monster El Bruto 127. Ran great for me! I sold it after 4 years. No problems. I would go with Jim's lifters as a replacement.

  • @naterockwell7735
    @naterockwell7735 Před 2 lety +4

    I have the 127 in my Softail. Upgraded 🔋 battery all balls starter gear reduction set on clutch hub along with Rivera pro clutch! Great running motor and pulls like a freight train! Nothing but smiles and miles! I’ll keep the whole lifter thing in mind when I approach the 15k miles on the clock. Btw great content!

  • @roundupp
    @roundupp Před 2 lety +8

    I saw this guy blazing though the Great Smokey Mountains, near NC,Va, Tn, I tried to catch him on my Ultima 120 powered FXR, he only left me because he is insane.

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +1

      I sold that bike at the beginning of this year, it has a different owner now

  • @dormantmenace
    @dormantmenace Před 2 lety +9

    That's a evo style motor they are known for eating lifters. Because of the extreme angle they meet the cam. 15 to 30 thousand miles is what you get out of one of Harleys lifters for a aggressive to even moderate rider in one of Harleys motors quite often. Hence it's replacement by the twin cam. Literally as soon as you pulled the heads off. And i saw that evo timing cover. I was thinking ... oh don't tell me he pulled that engine for a set of lifters.

    • @leathers970
      @leathers970 Před 2 lety +5

      I have 200 thousand miles on my 80 inch evo.i did small head work and bigger cam not because I needed to.ive done base gaskets a few times a few stators ,that's it never broke down once.

    • @johncasor9698
      @johncasor9698 Před 6 měsíci +1

      my boss would of fired me if it was only a Lifter and i pulled the engine and pulled the cylinders... over a lifter... Always check the lifters first...

  • @mickeywarren2316
    @mickeywarren2316 Před rokem +2

    Definitely like your point of view brother

  • @brianwinters4991
    @brianwinters4991 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video , I've been waiting to hear someone's view on Ultima , now I better wash my hands .

  • @getoffmygrass6974
    @getoffmygrass6974 Před 2 lety +2

    S&S engines take a dump too. Bang for buck, juice is worth the squeeze. I’m going to try their 124. I spent more piecing together my 95” on my 2002 FHLT only to get a 100/100. Top shelf components but only 5g’s for a complete crate, I’m willing to taste the beef.
    Nicely done with the breakdown, consensus normal mileage for failure, considering you beat the snot out of her as well.

  • @nathanmendham4347
    @nathanmendham4347 Před 2 lety +2

    I have the same motor however my Rivero Primo transmission is toast. Engine has been trouble free. Came for the bike content, stayed for the music pumping

  • @ajc5370
    @ajc5370 Před 2 lety +4

    Great video and a great band I'm glad you found the problem and it can be fixed. I honestly believe that back in the day more than say 10 years ago when Revtech was practically giving motors away that they created a lot of bad feelings in the industry of the V-Twin. The revtech motors had plenty of good and bad, and I think it's very possible that Ultima was always scrutinized because of it. They've put a lot of research and design and some fairly decent assembly and parts specifications in the Ultima motors. In my opinion they are the best option if you don't want to get into the S&S price point.

    • @whatyoumakeofit6635
      @whatyoumakeofit6635 Před rokem +2

      I hear about more problems. From s&s engines and components, than I do about ultima stuff. Most of what I hear about ultima is people complaining that ultima is all Asian made.

  • @theogtommygunnxxx8971
    @theogtommygunnxxx8971 Před 2 lety +3

    I have the Ultima 127 I had an issue with it back in 05 when it had there Ross piston and the rear piston melted but I was doing 135 mph , but Ultima did the machine work and sent Keith black pistons to me and it’s ran fine since 👍🏻

  • @rsbharley4766
    @rsbharley4766 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video, nice to see some long term info on the Ultima's . Thanks for sharing, Cheers

  • @thomaseverley3847
    @thomaseverley3847 Před 2 lety +5

    It is nice to see some more info on the ultima engines. Especially the thrust side of that cylinder still seeing rhe hone marks after your 16,000 mile thrashing is a plus! My 124 ultima twin cam just showed up yesterday! Can't wait to get it in and started!

    • @joalvarez6252
      @joalvarez6252 Před rokem +1

      Hows that motor working out for you right now?

    • @thomaseverley3847
      @thomaseverley3847 Před rokem +1

      @joalvarez6252 I live on utah, so it's still put away. Too much white stuff on the ground still. But it was still running very strong before I had to put it away. Thing is a freight train!

    • @hybridEP3
      @hybridEP3 Před 7 měsíci

      @@thomaseverley3847how’s it running now

    • @thomaseverley3847
      @thomaseverley3847 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @hybridEP3 well, I live in utah, and we are getting rounded with snow right now, so it's parked. I will say, the thing has been driving like a dream. Plenty of power throughout the rpm range. Very easy to drive. Doesn't skip a beat. It does however run pretty hot. Definitely needs a larger oil cooler which I'm going to be installing before the thaw this spring.

    • @hybridEP3
      @hybridEP3 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@thomaseverley3847 been thinking of getting a 113” for my fxdx

  • @kct9967
    @kct9967 Před 2 lety +2

    I've bought these 'unassembled' before, other that some mild machining issues , it looked like they were running their tooling longer than necessary ,but parts quality was never a problem.

  • @rjoetting7594
    @rjoetting7594 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I would like to see a good review of the Ultima shovelhead, I've seen quite a few on their evolution and twin cam but little to nothing on the 98 shovelhead.
    I'm seriously considering getting one for my 78 flh.

  • @scraphaulin
    @scraphaulin Před 2 lety +3

    Love the music 👍 System Restore has a new fan. Thanks for beating this motor too..and being honest and unbiased! I've been looking at 127 for my paul yaffe chopper

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +3

      They are great musicians and people in general. Hell yah man, I plan on continuing to abuse the hell out of it haha, I was just having issues getting parts in but I should have more videos of it up soon

    • @huntert374
      @huntert374 Před 2 lety +1

      @@urbanassaultmedia1543 where do you get your parts from? I have a 94’ Electra glide with the 127ci and having some issues with it

  • @radimmitt
    @radimmitt Před 11 měsíci +2

    I read the comments and didn’t see anyone mention going back with S&S cams, lifters and adjustable push rods. Why not?

  • @BiffBallbag
    @BiffBallbag Před rokem +3

    Performance EVO engines eat up lifters, this isn't unique to Ultima. They've got wonky valve angles, you keep the oiling system up to spec and not let it get out of hand they hold together fine.

  • @StudioELW405
    @StudioELW405 Před 2 lety +4

    I've heard great things about ultima motors recently. I'm eyeballing the 100ci with a 2 year warranty. I think I would have to run Jims rocker arms and lifters though.

    • @dormantmenace
      @dormantmenace Před 2 lety +2

      Won't help much. Its the Evo's extreme lifters angle even the Harleys do this. That's why it was replaced with the twin can motor. 30 thousand is lifter replacement time. For a harlry treated nicely. If your raping it. 15-20 you should probably take a look.

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +2

      @@dormantmenace I think going forward after speaking with some pretty smart people I will be looking at replacements around the 15k mark on this particular motor

  • @gdmcneil1
    @gdmcneil1 Před 3 měsíci

    just picked up a free bike, 00 titan with the 127 ultima and ultima 5 spd tranny...guess itll be worth getting it running I'd say...thanks for your video and personal experience...keep it up brother

  • @Jeefster-is8xl
    @Jeefster-is8xl Před 2 lety +1

    Nice one mate, great video.

  • @davenicholson3219
    @davenicholson3219 Před 2 lety +1

    This guy knows his stuff!👍🏻

  • @philynuku914
    @philynuku914 Před 8 měsíci

    Really enjoyed this one, pity you haven't done any more material recently.

  • @mitchc3569
    @mitchc3569 Před měsícem

    The Ultimate 110 has proven to be exceptionally reliable with the milder cam from the 100. Night & Day better than the Absolute Junk Crate Engine sold by the former S&S.

  • @garyhopkins6337
    @garyhopkins6337 Před 2 lety +1

    I bought a 127 Ultima Elbruto quite a few years ago, it ran fantastic for 600ks and I started to get lifter noise, I limped it home about 20ks and she was rattling. Pulled the cam cover off and one of the lifters was totally destroyed, these were Jim's lifters, had the rebuilt on warranty but it cost me as they only covered parts. It got new cases, oil pump, pistons, rings, just about the whole motor., so now I would never buy Jim's anything again.From the factory it came with Jims cam followers and oil pump you would think your pretty safe, but no.

  • @jamesburke7905
    @jamesburke7905 Před 3 měsíci

    thanks for the video. nothing wrong their lifter a know replacement item on evos.

  • @christophercofone1456
    @christophercofone1456 Před rokem +1

    Great video did u replace the lifters and were u good to go ???

  • @fmanion24
    @fmanion24 Před 2 lety +1

    Good video. 🤘

  • @oscarb5903
    @oscarb5903 Před 2 lety +2

    What happened with this build. Do you have any plans to continue the video series or at least show what it’s like now that it’s fixed?

  • @oscarb5903
    @oscarb5903 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey dumb question but I’m thinking of building a 127ci ultima for my shit. I was wondering where do you mount the oil filter cuz my evo motor is the one with the oil filter up front.

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +5

      on my FXR that this motor was in, the factory location for the oil filter is under the transmission and I just reused that. On yours you can remove the filter mount off your existing engine and just bolt it to the Ultima, the case has threaded holes to accept that mount

  • @Steve_Kelly_Oak
    @Steve_Kelly_Oak Před 2 lety +1

    Is the crank ridin on Timken bearings in these things? - I have one but never needed to tear it down. Some of the new ones are advertised as having Timken mains but I don't really know about the older ones.

  • @kennethwise7108
    @kennethwise7108 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What a shame, you could've just pulled the cam chest apart and addressed everything on the pinion side.

  • @johncasor9698
    @johncasor9698 Před 6 měsíci

    now what??? the crank shaft looks all gulled up ....

  • @leathers970
    @leathers970 Před 2 lety +2

    Fuckin penny holding up a dollar could be worse

  • @longboardalways
    @longboardalways Před 2 lety +2

    When is part 2?

  • @gnarlytothemax
    @gnarlytothemax Před 2 lety +2

    so how many miles did you get out of it before it took a shit?

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +2

      16k before it lost a lifter. the motor looks great otherwise so I'm putting a new cam in and new lifters. When it gives up, I'll let you know

    • @nycLPplayer
      @nycLPplayer Před 2 lety +1

      @@urbanassaultmedia1543 Any thoughts on upgraded lifters given that is an inherent Evo issu? I think Feuling makes some.

  • @clubstyleridahd4695
    @clubstyleridahd4695 Před rokem +1

    I bet your fxr ripped with that motor in it.

  • @sarantisvlassopoulos5795
    @sarantisvlassopoulos5795 Před 2 lety +1

    Where’s part 2

  • @rjoetting7594
    @rjoetting7594 Před 10 měsíci

    I realize that this is a older post, but I have been wondering if anyone has had any experience with the Ultima shovelhead 96 cu/in engine, I'm considering one for my 78 flh shovelhead bobber.

  • @casperpctech
    @casperpctech Před rokem

    Is that county 1 on your plate?

  • @mrpaintball70
    @mrpaintball70 Před 2 lety +3

    Engine

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +2

      You are right, I forgot that this actually goes in an enginecycle, thank you for that clarification

    • @mrpaintball70
      @mrpaintball70 Před 2 lety +2

      @@urbanassaultmedia1543 not knocking you dude, good video very informal, enjoy life's ride brother 👍🤘

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +1

      @@mrpaintball70 thank you very much, you as well man!!

  • @elguitarTom
    @elguitarTom Před rokem

    haha "china!" :D

  • @chrismartin6544
    @chrismartin6544 Před 2 lety

    I never understood how people hate on stuff they never owned

  • @scumdog88
    @scumdog88 Před 4 měsíci

    What I was told by the builder at R&R is that they are good engines and if you want them to last….when they are new pull the cam and lifters and put good ones in them.

  • @RedSun-Cinema
    @RedSun-Cinema Před 2 lety +1

    Jesus... Can you lose the loud music?

    • @urbanassaultmedia1543
      @urbanassaultmedia1543  Před 2 lety +13

      No, but I can make an instructional video on how to turn down your speakers if you would like

  • @tclark2311
    @tclark2311 Před 9 měsíci

    Ha I paid heaps more for an s&s and had same problems never again Harley Davidson motor never a problem !

  • @mickeywarren2316
    @mickeywarren2316 Před rokem

    Definitely like your point of view brother