Genn Greymane, one of the few beings dwelling within the World of Warcraft who has been blessed with the privilege of handing Sylvanas Windrunner an unmitigated L.
As a father who has lost his son, I can't ever watch this cutscene again without shedding tears whenever Genn says "For my son" and "You took my son's future and now I have taken yours." I wish I had someone I could target for vengeance and vent all my anger and frustrations on.
Believe me, you don't want that. It leads down a very, very dark path and could result in unimaginable harm to innocent people just to make the guilty party suffer. Trust me, I was walking it once.
The voice actor for Greymane did a damn good job in this clip. I love how he yells "I will have my VENGEANCE! For Varian! For Gilneas! FOR! MY! SON!" You can hear so well with the last three words that this is a angry man who is out for vengeance and has nothing to lose.
I like how this comment literally sounds like a chat GPT response explaining what happened in the video and what emotion it portrayed, but then to realise its a 7 year old comment
One thing I love about the ending of this cinematic, is what they did with Genn's voice. When he said "You took my son's future", he sounds like a human, a dad who lost his son. And then outside the frame we hear a voice of a beast, carving for vengeance, yet satisfied with what he just did "And now, I've taken yours." As if it's 2 sides of the same coin. One where he is human and the other, where there's a raging beast.
Idk about that. He's pretty badass no doubt but Darius Crowley is more badass than he is. Not to mention Tyrande (when Blizzard write her properly), Mekkatorque, Danath Trollbane, Kurdran Wildhammer, Muradin Bronzebeard and the list goes on. The Alliance has a load of underused badasses frankly.
Additionally Magni became un-petrified and is able to commune with Azeroth's World-Soul. The Bronzebeard brother are definitely the most badass brother you have in Azeroth. (Brann, too)
Gotta say, Genn is really growing on me as a character. Worgen or not, he's sort of the last embodiment of the old Warcraft 2 version of the Alliance, which is pretty awesome to counterbalance a bunch of the new characters (well, I say NEW - I mean WarCraft 3 and forwards).
Why do people defend Sylvanas? Unprovoked, she stole Genn's kingdom while it was weak. She slaughtered and enslaved Genn's people, and killed his son. Quite hypocritical, considering the fact that she constantly whines and bitches about Arthas ruining her kingdom. She took over Hillsbrad in such a disgusting and vile manner; massacring innocents and burying the survivors up to their heads in dirt, like some kind of twisted farm. Now that Gilneas is back in action, this bitch is going to feel the hound bite back for once. I see people saying they want Genn to die, but that would ruin the potential for such a satisfying revenge story. Sylvanas will regret the day she provoked Gilneas, and I'm going to enjoy every bit of it.
Bob Reno Yes, but the way she conducted her invasion was horrible. She used plague when explicitly told not to, resulting in a rather vile desecration of Gilneas. Sylvanas was pretty willing to invade Gilneas herself anyway. She revealed that in Silverpine.
Kieran Marcus The Ebon Blade attacked a friendly faction in their own order hall, killed various members, and only the light stopped them for ressing Tirion. They're also going to slaughter the WHOLE RED DRAGONFLIGHT for no reason. And nobody blinks an eye.
andrea ghiretti nobody ever said the Ebon Blade were good guys. They just weren’t bad guys we are fighting since they helped with scourge secrets, without them we wouldn’t have ever gotten close to Arthas. After that, they’re still undead, if Death Knights don’t kill they pretty much go insane. Everyone knows they’re evil but they figure an evil fighting with us is better than an evil fighting against us I guess.
I'm a bit of a Sylvanas fanboy but I honestly have to side with Genn here. I would probably do the same thing if I felt I had the chance. A man with nothing to lose is never to be toyed with.
I enjoy Sylvanas for what she is, but yeah. Anyone that thinks she's in the right in this situation is a maniac. She's done a lot of horrible and downright evil things.
I'm mainly a Horde player. Almost all of my characters are Horde. The Horde has always been my favorite faction. Despite all this: I cheered for Greymane the whole time while watching this xD Such an EPIC scene!
@@oluftheexplorer9476 It’s really not that weird. Some people just prefer the races of one faction over the other. Some people may only have 1 character on one faction.
evil in what way exactly? this certainly isn't enough to justify such an insult, so I assume you're talking about Gilneas? it's evil to lay siege to an enemy "country"? because that's basically what that was, on her own turf no less.
+Raybeze It's evil to plague them. Also Gilneas wasn't an enemy country at the time. She and Garrosh (let's not forget his role) invaded them for no reason while they hid behind their wall and actually made them their enemies and pushed them back into the Alliance.
I mean, she makes a deal with the evil goddess Helya and then tries to force Eyir (the val'kyr queen, who is loyal to Odyn and trying to help stop the legion) and her Val'kyr into slavery and steal her power so....
Even Garrosh had forbidden the use of the plague, the undead are an abomination, everyone deserves to rest, humans, taurens, elves, etc Sylvanas and her forsaken shouldn't exist EDIT: Forgot to mention, same goes for death knights, but hey, that's my opinion.
Anyone who says Sylvanas is not evil needs to do the Silverpine and Hillsbrad questline asap. I fucking hope she dies. I'm still bitter about Blizz killing off Vol'jin to progress her storyline as a fan service for her pre-pubescent angsty fan boys.
+Dmm 435 That would be the only way for her to die again. After all, both times she's fallen it's been in the name of her people, be they High Elves or Forsaken, past and present. For all her shady dealings, she is a rather selfless leader amongst her followers most of the time.
MyViolador late to the party but yes! That is the theme that plays when Varian dies (RIP). Its a mix of the Stormwind theme with a really dramatic touch.
So, I just had a though. Given that Genn can resist the poison from Sylvanas' arrow due to the Worgen curse, does that mean that Liam sacrificed himself for nothing? There's no way either could have known at the time, but in retrospect that would mean that Liam died for nothing - his father could have survived the shot.
Aftrer cinematic when you deliver quest as an alliance, npc states that the greymane got just in time to get antidote, so no he is not immune. They didn't have antidote back fhen when Genn son died
Five years too late, but Sylvanas says the poison used on Liam was specifically meant to kill Genn. It surely would have, being overkill for Liam as well.
And another question, should it have been Genn instead of Saurfang to Mak'gora Sylvanas. In the BFA intro cinematic Genn b1tchslaps saurfang like a (very big) green toy. Guy propably has decent shadow resistance too lol
So glad they are following up on the rivalry between Gilneas and the Forsaken! Been wanting to see this dynamic escalate since I did the questlines in Gilneas, Silverpine and Hillsbrad in Cata.
I honestly feel so bad for Genn, he lost his son to Sylvanas and now wants nothing but vengeance for him. I'd be in a furious rage trying to get vengeance if my son's killer was in my vicinity, too.
Great cut-scene, Sylvanas, standing there monologuing. And Genn wordlessly shatters her dreams. Then with words filled with fuck you walks away like a boss.
I dont root for shit, both are retards in their own way. Genn, for attacking the Horde while Legion summons countless demons from Tomb of Sargeras. Sylvanas, acting once more selfish and using the warchief mantle only to pursue immortality which will do nothing if the Legion wins the war.
You fucking dumbass, a fel reaver clung on to their ship. Varian had to sacrifice himself in order to save the alliance. Can't say much for Horde haha.
I loved this cinematic. Had me at the edge of my seat when I was watching it. Even though I mainly play Horde, I was so worried Graymane was going to get killed, so it was a real treat to see him not only survive, but to deal a huge blow to Sylvanas's schemes and get some vengeance for Gilneas. I know a lot of people are probably confused as to why Graymane is so adamantly against Sylvanas, but if you did the Worgen Starting Zone, the Silverpine and Hillsbrad questline, the atrocities Sylvanas has committed runs so much deeper than just commanding the Horde retreating in the Broken Isles battle and leaving the Alliance vulnerable to be flanked. (See, being angry over the Horde retreating seems unfair, considering both the Horde and Alliance would have lost anyways.)
Forsaken of Lordaeron should be led by a Forsaken of LORDAERON. Not a pretender obsessed with attaining immortality with the Forsaken as her meatshield.
Leo Tacugue well, knowing Sylvanas, she would rather burn live civilians, and you can’t really find that in Gilneas at the moment. But on the bright side Blizzard might bring Gilneas back during this expansion!
Leo Tacugue well, I’m a worgen death knight. Though I do grieve for Teldrasil, I believe it is an opening chance for Blizzard to replace it with Gioneas. I just love the atmosphere
Guys if you put yourselves in the places of both Genn and Sylvanas, you will see that both sides are right in their own respect. So before throwing shit at each other, think about this, Sylvanas constantly remarks that she is worried about the future of her people, that being the Forsaken, and the only way to ensure their survival is to acquire the Valkyrs' powers. No one can even argue that Sylvanas wants all those powers for her own personal agenda. It is clear that her greatest concern has always been her people, and that responsibility grew even further when she unwillingly became the Warchief. Some of you may not agree with her methods which she uses to achieve those goals but in the end, Sylvanas did what she did to make Forsaken matter in the world. It is not that hard to figure it out, but Sylvanas is the exact definition of a Chaotic Good. Genn on the other hand is a grieving father whom has lost his son, his friend and his entire city and as fas as Im concerned has every right to be pissed at the Horde, specifically Sylvanas. She razed his city, killed his son and the way he sees it, she also betrayed and abandoned them at the Broken Shore which led to the death of his dear friend and the King of the Alliance, Varian. These are just events that build up to the hatred we just saw between the two. There will probably never ever be peace between Genn and Sylvanas but that's just the way it is. Maybe we should just accept this and respect the motives and intentions of both sides before yelling 'Fuck this, fuck that' or whatever. Blizzard isn't just making up goofy shit for you fanboys to trash talk at each other, what I've said earlier is just the tip of the iceberg, there is a lot more to those characters which add to their developments throughout the story and I believe that is what make us feel for those characters. Can't we just get over this already and enjoy the story? Or at least channel our common hatred towards Gul'dan pls, he sucks.
Thanks Genn I wanted to see something like this since Cataclysm! He could have taken her bow when he attacked her but he choose to take her destiny instead ! And i am interested what Odyn is going to say to the horde :P
Sorry, already been confirmed that Sylvanas will be turned on by the Horde and replaced by Nathanos Blightcaller as leader of the undead. Datamining implies her future is in a Dalaran prison cell.
you mean Queen "everything I do fucks up hilariously but people still find excuses for my failures" or Queen "I'm totally not like the Lich King even though I do everything he did"
Just came here after seeing Sylvanas just destroy Saurfang. Wtf happened to her? Here she's kinda getting tossed around by fucking Greymane and then an expansion later she just destroyed one of the greatest warriors to ever live.
Barokai Rein well sylvanas is much stronger in bfa i think. And the thing is genn is pretty strong, or at the very least his hatred for her rivals her own hatred for arthas and that made him strong enough to fight her. Also hes likely much faster than saurfang due to his worgen form.
She's now empowered by some powerful kind of dark magic. Did you see that purple energy in her hands when she's talking to Saurfang? That's void to me. Old God magic. This explains her growing power.
I see people saying he disobeyed Anduin's orders. True enough, but he didn't do this in the Alliance's name, he did this in his son's name, in Gilneas name, and in Varian's name. Notice he doesn't mention the Alliance in this cinematic.
i don't think any of those people would like genn going on selfish missions to get his vengeance, sinking the forsaken fleet, downing the skyfire and wasting resources on finding sylvanas when there's much greater threats to face
daenerys targaryen What about Sylvanas who wants to secure a future for Forsaken ? She doesn't care about Azeroth or the Legion, she only cares about her power. If Genn didn't do this, then the next threat would have been Sylvanas.
Ezorde it's not like he knew she was going to enslave the val'kyr, he just happened to conveniently stop her from doing such on his petty quest for vengeance
Sylvanas was after the Val'kyr in order to assure the survival of the Forsaken as a species, Genn however had lost his home to the Forsaken, not just that, but from what he saw, Sylvanas retreated, she had already taken his son, she had turned his land into something worthy of Fallout due to the fact that even now in the lore Gilneas is still trying to be cleansed of plague making it a wasteland. Sylvanas, ruined his life, his peoples lives, he has a daughter, he has a wife, but he lost, a son. He also lost his home, his best friends daughter was kidnapped only to be traded in for the Worgen to leave Gilneas a defeat that cost Genn heavily. He has lost, in his heart, everything. His son was meant to succeed him, not his daughter, Tess may rise to be a great queen, but Genn sees only a daughter. So to him, Sylvanas, took away his future, and so now, he has repaid her, by taking away the one thing that would assure the survival of her species. Now she has "No" way to rebuild the Forsaken, and sooner or later, they will be forced to accept that without the living, they, will die forever.
Genn has my vote for being the new High King of the Alliance. Whats the point of stopping the Legion only to have Sylvanas stab us in the back afterwards.
There are no excuses for evil when people talks about sylvana’s past , just look for the Varyan’s story and learn what is a tragic past but he still kept on his way ! That’s what a better person do and that’s why varyan was better
because her body in short canon story described as nigh indestructible. "Slowly, she crunched her way to the ragged edge of the icy platform. A thousand feet below, shrouded by the clouds, lay a forest of shattered saronite spikes she had scouted out earlier. The fall alone couldn't kill her: her animate flesh was nigh indestructible. But the spikes, the hardened blood of an Old God, they not only would tear the body apart but would obliterate the soul as well. She longed for it. A return to peace. The work she had begun in the forests of Silvermoon was finally complete with the death of Arthas."-Sylvanas Windrunner: Edge of Night
It is, they didn't coordinate their retreat with the Alliance. The faction whose warcry is: "Lok'tar Ogar! Victory or Death!" was the one that chickened out and backed off while the other faction was facing bigger Force. Horde got outmaneuvered, chickened out and simply botched the entire assault.
They didn't coordinate? They blew a f*cking horn for everyone to hear, yet the Alliance feels betrayed somehow. Also, there's a difference dying honorably in battle and getting slaughtered from two fronts for no reason.
***** To coordinate a military retreat, all segments first prepare for the retreat, then retreat together. Going "*tuut tuut sound the horn tuut tuut* We going back bitches, ya'll better run fo yo lives!" isn't coordinated...
To be fair, Blizzard failed during the Broken Shore cinematic on Allianceside. While the situation looked quite dire for the Horde, as Alliance you see how her archers slander off the ridge with no urgend haste and turn their backs to the alliance. From below, depicted as it was, you could come to the same conclution, that the Horde turns tail and leaves the Alliance to die. I like the horde version better because of how hasty the retreat looks.
I remember when we defeated Garrosh and Jaina asked Varian to dismantle the horde and then some called her a bitch, witch and even now as dreadlord when she is right. Anyway, this cinematic clearly shows who's the real bitch. Thank you Genn for chasing her.
@@macrons593 true, everytime i think of the horde i think of the ugly looking orcs and skinny zombies they call undead. Blood elfs are the only normal looking ones but go Kuku for cocopufs if they have mana
@@superslav268 You've never played Warcraft 3 as I can see, or even WOTLK. Arthas was a hero who became evil because he was corrupted by stronger force, when he took Frostmourne. Sylvanas was a bitch since Warcraft 3, and he ressurected her because he thought the she didn't deserve to die so easily,cause she gave him so much trouble. After the end of WOTLK, after Arthas died, she didn't know what to do, and even tried to kill herself.The fact that she is also raising undead doesn't mean that she is fucking Arthas, man use your brains
Genn Greymane, one of the few beings dwelling within the World of Warcraft who has been blessed with the privilege of handing Sylvanas Windrunner an unmitigated L.
The absolute gigachad of WoW
Imagine what Variann would have done 😂
@@Yorheimshe wouldn't have even 1 expansion to be warchief. She would've died so fast.
"Always fear an old man in a profession where men die young."
Too bad Genn joined that profession late instead of pulling a Saurafang
wrg, idts, no fearx for suchx, anyx, do things not fear things
Very true
which is pickpocketing :D
@@KHfanz I mean, of the two of them, which of them survived fighting Sylvanas?
As a father who has lost his son, I can't ever watch this cutscene again without shedding tears whenever Genn says "For my son" and "You took my son's future and now I have taken yours." I wish I had someone I could target for vengeance and vent all my anger and frustrations on.
Believe me, you don't want that. It leads down a very, very dark path and could result in unimaginable harm to innocent people just to make the guilty party suffer.
Trust me, I was walking it once.
@@tprime2702 I know. I'm working on myself and my grief. But in my situation all we could blame it on was bad luck...
I’m so sorry for your loss. I wish I could take away your pain
I love the unbreakable eye contact of Genn as he reveals the lantern and smashes it in front of Sylvanus. Drinking in her despair
Sylvanas*
yeah he did that for his son even he made sylvanas really mad! it makes her wanna kill him!
The voice actor for Greymane did a damn good job in this clip. I love how he yells "I will have my VENGEANCE! For Varian! For Gilneas! FOR! MY! SON!" You can hear so well with the last three words that this is a angry man who is out for vengeance and has nothing to lose.
Just to be a smartass: I've is actually 2 words combined into 1 *I* and *have*. So it's actually the last 4 words
nothing to lose? He has a daughter and wife
@@allanaalberto588 He already lost his son. The last thing he would ever lose is his daughter and wife.
That good
I like how this comment literally sounds like a chat GPT response explaining what happened in the video and what emotion it portrayed, but then to realise its a 7 year old comment
How did Genn survive a gunship crash, a massive explosion, and an arrow to the chest all in the same fucking day?
He is also worgen, so he could jump off or something, and also, an arrow to the chest is not a big damage for a human.
+MrBaranygabor It looked like the arrow went into his lung, which would be fatal for almost anyone.
if he removed it entirely it would've been worse.
Because he's a badass, something the Horde try too hard to be, but never attain. All hail King Genn Graymane! For Gilneas!
Oluf The Explorer
*TRIGGERED*
"You took my son's future, and now I've taken yours!"
That's real cool!
Genn is the hero we needed
#MakeAllianceGreatAgain
No. He isn't the hero we needed, but the hero we deserved.
Genn is the hero even the true Horde needs right now. We need to put that Sylvanas bitch down into a grave.
genn is the wrinkly furry who will be the end of azeroth if someone doesn't stop him from continuing with his antics
+Keydiam
One thing I love about the ending of this cinematic, is what they did with Genn's voice. When he said "You took my son's future", he sounds like a human, a dad who lost his son. And then outside the frame we hear a voice of a beast, carving for vengeance, yet satisfied with what he just did "And now, I've taken yours." As if it's 2 sides of the same coin. One where he is human and the other, where there's a raging beast.
Greymane is by far now the most badass character of the Alliance
Nope. Still Varian. This in coming from a worgen main.
Genn and Jaina are the most badass characters alive, but Varian will allways be the best.
Idk about that. He's pretty badass no doubt but Darius Crowley is more badass than he is. Not to mention Tyrande (when Blizzard write her properly), Mekkatorque, Danath Trollbane, Kurdran Wildhammer, Muradin Bronzebeard and the list goes on. The Alliance has a load of underused badasses frankly.
+Lewis Scott That's correct, but i would not say Genn is less badass.
Additionally Magni became un-petrified and is able to commune with Azeroth's World-Soul. The Bronzebeard brother are definitely the most badass brother you have in Azeroth. (Brann, too)
Gotta say, Genn is really growing on me as a character. Worgen or not, he's sort of the last embodiment of the old Warcraft 2 version of the Alliance, which is pretty awesome to counterbalance a bunch of the new characters (well, I say NEW - I mean WarCraft 3 and forwards).
Why do people defend Sylvanas?
Unprovoked, she stole Genn's kingdom while it was weak. She slaughtered and enslaved Genn's people, and killed his son. Quite hypocritical, considering the fact that she constantly whines and bitches about Arthas ruining her kingdom. She took over Hillsbrad in such a disgusting and vile manner; massacring innocents and burying the survivors up to their heads in dirt, like some kind of twisted farm. Now that Gilneas is back in action, this bitch is going to feel the hound bite back for once. I see people saying they want Genn to die, but that would ruin the potential for such a satisfying revenge story. Sylvanas will regret the day she provoked Gilneas, and I'm going to enjoy every bit of it.
Bob Reno Yes, but the way she conducted her invasion was horrible. She used plague when explicitly told not to, resulting in a rather vile desecration of Gilneas. Sylvanas was pretty willing to invade Gilneas herself anyway. She revealed that in Silverpine.
@Bob Reno sylvanas works only for herself . she used garrosh for her benefit .
Kieran Marcus The Ebon Blade attacked a friendly faction in their own order hall, killed various members, and only the light stopped them for ressing Tirion. They're also going to slaughter the WHOLE RED DRAGONFLIGHT for no reason. And nobody blinks an eye.
Boobs. Simple, right?
andrea ghiretti nobody ever said the Ebon Blade were good guys. They just weren’t bad guys we are fighting since they helped with scourge secrets, without them we wouldn’t have ever gotten close to Arthas. After that, they’re still undead, if Death Knights don’t kill they pretty much go insane. Everyone knows they’re evil but they figure an evil fighting with us is better than an evil fighting against us I guess.
I'm a bit of a Sylvanas fanboy but I honestly have to side with Genn here. I would probably do the same thing if I felt I had the chance. A man with nothing to lose is never to be toyed with.
Idk that he has nothing to lose. He still has a wife and a daughter and his people.
a man with everything to lose is even worse
I enjoy Sylvanas for what she is, but yeah. Anyone that thinks she's in the right in this situation is a maniac. She's done a lot of horrible and downright evil things.
Your thinking of Crowley. He only has what remains of his people.
you just a traitor. sylvanas looks for better way for her people! if she would not retreat, thrall, herself, baine and others would die!
I'm mainly a Horde player. Almost all of my characters are Horde. The Horde has always been my favorite faction. Despite all this: I cheered for Greymane the whole time while watching this xD Such an EPIC scene!
I don't know what kinda weirdo only plays one faction, but ok ... regardless yeah, Sylvanas really got what she deserved here
Well after Sylvanas: " Horde is nothing ". Evan Horde player can fully enjoy Genn beating shit out of her.
@@oluftheexplorer9476 It’s really not that weird. Some people just prefer the races of one faction over the other. Some people may only have 1 character on one faction.
Horde and Alliance enjoyers both can rejoice in hating Sylvanas
Thresh: "At least someone out there knows how to grab the lantern"
Roflmao.. WW ganks comin in hot with that lantern bruh
Pffff thats sad XD atleast one man can
"Oh ya Sylvanas is totally not evil" pfft ya okay. Also holy shit Genn is a badass
evil in what way exactly?
this certainly isn't enough to justify such an insult, so I assume you're talking about Gilneas?
it's evil to lay siege to an enemy "country"? because that's basically what that was, on her own turf no less.
+Raybeze It's evil to plague them. Also Gilneas wasn't an enemy country at the time. She and Garrosh (let's not forget his role) invaded them for no reason while they hid behind their wall and actually made them their enemies and pushed them back into the Alliance.
I mean, she makes a deal with the evil goddess Helya and then tries to force Eyir (the val'kyr queen, who is loyal to Odyn and trying to help stop the legion) and her Val'kyr into slavery and steal her power so....
Even Garrosh had forbidden the use of the plague, the undead are an abomination, everyone deserves to rest, humans, taurens, elves, etc Sylvanas and her forsaken shouldn't exist
EDIT: Forgot to mention, same goes for death knights, but hey, that's my opinion.
Anyone who says Sylvanas is not evil needs to do the Silverpine and Hillsbrad questline asap.
I fucking hope she dies. I'm still bitter about Blizz killing off Vol'jin to progress her storyline as a fan service for her pre-pubescent angsty fan boys.
Never thought i would say that , damm it Genn the old wolf still has his teeth. Sylvanas humiliated always brings joy to my heart...
Agreed entirely, she is scourge filth.
I don't think you know the difference between the Scourge and the Forsaken, my friend.
That is true the Forsaken are not Scourge , but you will have to agree that Sylvanas is walking a very thin line between them lately...
+Someone Only difference between Sylvanas and the LK is that she commands intelligent undead.
Edward Lavaden And makes even deadlier plagues than the ones scourge used.
I desperately want Blizzard to use Genn's cinematic worgen form for the base of new worgen models someday. Kind of like what they did with Garrosh.
Idem! Worgennin too!
I wish they would update worgen. My fave race tbh as well as undead but they are starting to look outdated.
whitemothunwritten lol
whitemothunwritten
And they need different fur colors too
Your wish is being granted soon
GO GENN! He did it! HE WON A THING!
Bitch is about yo bite the bust almost 5 years later. Thank GOD
as an Alliance player I sooo needed this... Go GENN !!!
The raw emotion from genns voice actor is amazing
I sincerely hope Genn do not die for this..
No he lives, he"ll be just in time to reverse sylvanas' poison
I'm going to transfer from my game, and get into Warcraft, just to kick his ass.
graymane is smart graymane knows alchemy
be like graymane and study chemistry :D
he didn't ezcape, he walked away like gentelman :D
Too many alliance heroes dies in the lore. I hope this does not happen to genn asswell.
One of the most cathartic moments in the history of WoW
sylvannas is not my warchief. DarkSpear NEVER DIE!
that troll died from a normal demon, he was a fucking nobody
Or it proves that even normal demons have the capability of killing our leaders.
Varyan died from two normal demons too
Umm... No. Re-watch that cinematic
Samuel Pauley He would've died even without Gul'Dan
RIP Genn's whole plot line
I let out manly squeals during this cinematic.
FOR GILNEAS! FOR LIAM! FOR THE ALLIANCE!
Hope I don't find out Greymane is dead from poisoning on a quest called "took an arrow to the shoulder"...
He isn't he lives. Survives the poison as does the player. Who somehow also got poisoned.
Knowing how blizzard works in their naming, they'd probably just use "I used to be an adventurer, like you." Or "Until I took an arrow..."
@@aaronyayger nice, telling someone to kill themselves online, just nice
@@Resi1ience Dude removed his comment where he was acting like an ass. Check the conceited attitude at the door next time, bud.
@@aaronyayger Do you think it's ever okay to tell someone to kill themselves, online or no? Fucking idiot.
"FOR MY SON!!" holy shit that was so badass
Genn: HAHAHA IM RELEVANT AGAIN!
Ok that comment is great lol
Well now he's dead so... His only purpose was to be a plot point for Sylvanas just like the troll's. Pah
more like hackers
***** ^^ yet.
+Dmm 435 That would be the only way for her to die again. After all, both times she's fallen it's been in the name of her people, be they High Elves or Forsaken, past and present. For all her shady dealings, she is a rather selfless leader amongst her followers most of the time.
Was really hoping Eyir would vaporize Sylvanas when she became free.
if only she did...
For Liam!
For all Gilneas!
Genn extracting the cancer from Azeroth.
Good to see you're an alliance player my spiritual liege!
My lord! Your crusade must come to azeroth. Let them see the light of our mighty emperor.
bfa is so fucking good
*MY LIEGE IS ALSO AN ALLIANCE!! WHAT A DAY TO BE ALIVE!!*
just hear the heroic music when genn destroys that lamp, He did the right thing
MyViolador late to the party but yes! That is the theme that plays when Varian dies (RIP). Its a mix of the Stormwind theme with a really dramatic touch.
I love the moment when she realizes she done fucked up and completely underestimated Greymane, rather than overestimated.
Yeah Genn! Show her whose top dog!
Word
Genn Greymane: Make Alliance Great Again
Insivel he even built a wall.... And made the orcs pay for it
Wait so does that mean if we build the wall, we become Worgen too?
I'm in!
@@arawn1061 Orgrimmar is not sending us their best Orcs.
Hell yes! Genn Greymane has risen from the grave, take that Sylvanas!
A fully geared Sylvanas just got pwned by Genn, wearing nothing but pants.
Lesson: Don't fuck with Genn.
So, I just had a though. Given that Genn can resist the poison from Sylvanas' arrow due to the Worgen curse, does that mean that Liam sacrificed himself for nothing? There's no way either could have known at the time, but in retrospect that would mean that Liam died for nothing - his father could have survived the shot.
Good question, but who's to say it's the same poison used?
Aftrer cinematic when you deliver quest as an alliance, npc states that the greymane got just in time to get antidote, so no he is not immune. They didn't have antidote back fhen when Genn son died
Five years too late, but Sylvanas says the poison used on Liam was specifically meant to kill Genn. It surely would have, being overkill for Liam as well.
And another question, should it have been Genn instead of Saurfang to Mak'gora Sylvanas. In the BFA intro cinematic Genn b1tchslaps saurfang like a (very big) green toy. Guy propably has decent shadow resistance too lol
So glad they are following up on the rivalry between Gilneas and the Forsaken! Been wanting to see this dynamic escalate since I did the questlines in Gilneas, Silverpine and Hillsbrad in Cata.
I honestly feel so bad for Genn, he lost his son to Sylvanas and now wants nothing but vengeance for him. I'd be in a furious rage trying to get vengeance if my son's killer was in my vicinity, too.
Great cut-scene, Sylvanas, standing there monologuing. And Genn wordlessly shatters her dreams. Then with words filled with fuck you walks away like a boss.
Don't matter if you Horde or Alliance, I think most people were rooting for Genn here.
Why? What did sylvanas do wrong?
I dont root for shit, both are retards in their own way.
Genn, for attacking the Horde while Legion summons countless demons from Tomb of Sargeras.
Sylvanas, acting once more selfish and using the warchief mantle only to pursue immortality which will do nothing if the Legion wins the war.
WretchedDrake Nope. Still follow Sylvanas
**Genn, for stopping an evil banshee from obtaining immortality which would have been used against the Alliance, AND the Horde.**
Fixed it for you.
Genn is so badass
Foreshadowing when Sylvanas becomes a new raid boss and we kill her. Can't wait for it.
Genn is in the wrong, the Horde had to of left. Fucking Varian would still be alive if they would of left as well.
will never happen
But the Horde would have died in the process.
BBQ nachos You can't fight destiny.
You fucking dumbass, a fel reaver clung on to their ship. Varian had to sacrifice himself in order to save the alliance. Can't say much for Horde haha.
Legion, was the last time Blizzard could do something else then girl boss Sylvanas.
I loved this cinematic. Had me at the edge of my seat when I was watching it.
Even though I mainly play Horde, I was so worried Graymane was going to get killed, so it was a real treat to see him not only survive, but to deal a huge blow to Sylvanas's schemes and get some vengeance for Gilneas.
I know a lot of people are probably confused as to why Graymane is so adamantly against Sylvanas, but if you did the Worgen Starting Zone, the Silverpine and Hillsbrad questline, the atrocities Sylvanas has committed runs so much deeper than just commanding the Horde retreating in the Broken Isles battle and leaving the Alliance vulnerable to be flanked. (See, being angry over the Horde retreating seems unfair, considering both the Horde and Alliance would have lost anyways.)
I've been waiting for this moment since Cataclysm
as a Horde player, as an Undead too, This Makes me happy. No seriously though, banshee bitch needs to kick it soon.
I am so agreeing you
You might be a stinky rotted corpse but you are obviously not a Forsaken of Lordearon. VICTORY FOR SYLVANAS.
I too am among the Forsaken that is rather concerned for the road Sylvanas will lead the Horde to.
Forsaken of Lordaeron should be led by a Forsaken of LORDAERON. Not a pretender obsessed with attaining immortality with the Forsaken as her meatshield.
Plus, fuck Elves, AMiright?
FOR GILNEAS!
Necroxis FOR.....MYYYY.......SOOOON!
GILNEAS WILL RISE AGAIN!
Leo Tacugue well, knowing Sylvanas, she would rather burn live civilians, and you can’t really find that in Gilneas at the moment. But on the bright side Blizzard might bring Gilneas back during this expansion!
Leo Tacugue well, I’m a worgen death knight. Though I do grieve for Teldrasil, I believe it is an opening chance for Blizzard to replace it with Gioneas. I just love the atmosphere
Filthy Alliance fanboy
Such an epic cinematic. My favorite cinematic in game so far
Jupp...still one of my top 3 fav cinematics.
So awesome to see Genn finally get his revenge after all these years!
Genn is such a badass
Guys if you put yourselves in the places of both Genn and Sylvanas, you will see that both sides are right in their own respect.
So before throwing shit at each other, think about this, Sylvanas constantly remarks that she is worried about the future of her people, that being the Forsaken, and the only way to ensure their survival is to acquire the Valkyrs' powers. No one can even argue that Sylvanas wants all those powers for her own personal agenda. It is clear that her greatest concern has always been her people, and that responsibility grew even further when she unwillingly became the Warchief. Some of you may not agree with her methods which she uses to achieve those goals but in the end, Sylvanas did what she did to make Forsaken matter in the world. It is not that hard to figure it out, but Sylvanas is the exact definition of a Chaotic Good.
Genn on the other hand is a grieving father whom has lost his son, his friend and his entire city and as fas as Im concerned has every right to be pissed at the Horde, specifically Sylvanas. She razed his city, killed his son and the way he sees it, she also betrayed and abandoned them at the Broken Shore which led to the death of his dear friend and the King of the Alliance, Varian. These are just events that build up to the hatred we just saw between the two. There will probably never ever be peace between Genn and Sylvanas but that's just the way it is. Maybe we should just accept this and respect the motives and intentions of both sides before yelling 'Fuck this, fuck that' or whatever. Blizzard isn't just making up goofy shit for you fanboys to trash talk at each other, what I've said earlier is just the tip of the iceberg, there is a lot more to those characters which add to their developments throughout the story and I believe that is what make us feel for those characters.
Can't we just get over this already and enjoy the story? Or at least channel our common hatred towards Gul'dan pls, he sucks.
Thanks Genn I wanted to see something like this since Cataclysm!
He could have taken her bow when he attacked her but he choose to take her destiny instead !
And i am interested what Odyn is going to say to the horde :P
here i was hoping genn would kick the bucket.
god damn it
I was hoping the same with sylvanas, and damn am I proud. AHAHAHAAAAA
I dunno, that wound was all black abd poisony looking
thunder wolf except Sylvanas isn't dead either :^)
+backlemore crabbypatty but Genn did accomplish his goal, preventing her from getting the Val'kyr, and by extension immortality.
Genn should have sapped her before coming out of stealth. Wolf don't know how to rogue.
Suits Sylvanas to have taken away her future after what she did to Graymane's son.
she did to gilneas the same that arthas to quelthalas
Yeah. It also suits him his fate for the atrocities he committed on Azeroth.
MyViolador u know arthas did worst to the alliance then the horde,
What a pity!She us in The Maw(equivalent to hell)but she is a big commander there.
You deserve everything you get coming to you Sylvanas.
You Go Greymane! FOR GINEAS!
0:46 that smack to the face felt sooo good
Stupid old wolf... Don't mess with my Queen. You will join Varian soon.
Grey mane has people he can rely on, who in the horde trusts sylvanas and will be there when the inevitable arrives?
cya .. very funny ;)
Sylvanas faboy harrem is the worst...
Sorry, already been confirmed that Sylvanas will be turned on by the Horde and replaced by Nathanos Blightcaller as leader of the undead. Datamining implies her future is in a Dalaran prison cell.
you mean Queen "everything I do fucks up hilariously but people still find excuses for my failures" or Queen "I'm totally not like the Lich King even though I do everything he did"
Can't wait for the day Sylvanas is finally dragged to hell, to spend eternity with Arthas.
When he says her name... it always gives me chills!
Gilneas. Southshore. Never forget.
Just came here after seeing Sylvanas just destroy Saurfang. Wtf happened to her? Here she's kinda getting tossed around by fucking Greymane and then an expansion later she just destroyed one of the greatest warriors to ever live.
Barokai Rein well sylvanas is much stronger in bfa i think. And the thing is genn is pretty strong, or at the very least his hatred for her rivals her own hatred for arthas and that made him strong enough to fight her. Also hes likely much faster than saurfang due to his worgen form.
She's now empowered by some powerful kind of dark magic. Did you see that purple energy in her hands when she's talking to Saurfang? That's void to me. Old God magic. This explains her growing power.
I see people saying he disobeyed Anduin's orders. True enough, but he didn't do this in the Alliance's name, he did this in his son's name, in Gilneas name, and in Varian's name. Notice he doesn't mention the Alliance in this cinematic.
i don't think any of those people would like genn going on selfish missions to get his vengeance, sinking the forsaken fleet, downing the skyfire and wasting resources on finding sylvanas when there's much greater threats to face
daenerys targaryen What about Sylvanas who wants to secure a future for Forsaken ? She doesn't care about Azeroth or the Legion, she only cares about her power. If Genn didn't do this, then the next threat would have been Sylvanas.
she cares enough to attempt enslave the Valkyr to save her people.
Ezorde it's not like he knew she was going to enslave the val'kyr, he just happened to conveniently stop her from doing such on his petty quest for vengeance
I don't know if she was gonna slave them or to corrupt them, the Val'Kyr she uses for the Forsaken are undead corrupted Val'Kyr
Sylvanas was after the Val'kyr in order to assure the survival of the Forsaken as a species, Genn however had lost his home to the Forsaken, not just that, but from what he saw, Sylvanas retreated, she had already taken his son, she had turned his land into something worthy of Fallout due to the fact that even now in the lore Gilneas is still trying to be cleansed of plague making it a wasteland.
Sylvanas, ruined his life, his peoples lives, he has a daughter, he has a wife, but he lost, a son.
He also lost his home, his best friends daughter was kidnapped only to be traded in for the Worgen to leave Gilneas a defeat that cost Genn heavily.
He has lost, in his heart, everything. His son was meant to succeed him, not his daughter, Tess may rise to be a great queen, but Genn sees only a daughter. So to him, Sylvanas, took away his future, and so now, he has repaid her, by taking away the one thing that would assure the survival of her species.
Now she has "No" way to rebuild the Forsaken, and sooner or later, they will be forced to accept that without the living, they, will die forever.
I can't stop pressing 4. Genn punching Sylvanas' face is awesome.
REALLY was hoping for Eyir to smite the shit outta Sylvanas
I'd have to say that this is Greymane's win. He just effectively cut off her way of keeping her people going.
Genn has my vote for being the new High King of the Alliance. Whats the point of stopping the Legion only to have Sylvanas stab us in the back afterwards.
There are no excuses for evil when people talks about sylvana’s past , just look for the Varyan’s story and learn what is a tragic past but he still kept on his way ! That’s what a better person do and that’s why varyan was better
The fact that Eyir didn't smite Sylvanas is a crime.
All this Horde-Alliance conflict must make old man Gul'dan happy. And whole Legion for that matter.
Sylvanas gets a claw in the face and takes zero damage lmao, and why didnt it even leave a wound. Also FOR GILNEAS
because her body in short canon story described as nigh indestructible.
"Slowly, she crunched her way to the ragged edge of the icy platform. A thousand feet below, shrouded by the clouds, lay a forest of shattered saronite spikes she had scouted out earlier. The fall alone couldn't kill her: her animate flesh was nigh indestructible. But the spikes, the hardened blood of an Old God, they not only would tear the body apart but would obliterate the soul as well. She longed for it. A return to peace. The work she had begun in the forests of Silvermoon was finally complete with the death of Arthas."-Sylvanas Windrunner: Edge of Night
+undead4500 Ah thanks
And yet, she fears death, which means she's either not "nigh indestructable", OR, "Edge of Night" is non-canon.
She got shot once and died so there is something up
She wears the strongest armour with the highest iLevel and stats, it's known as Plot Armour.
I'm a Horde player, but Garrosh was right about Sylvanas. She's a bitch..
So is the rest of the Horde, really, but that's a matter for another day.
Like Baine, Ji, Vol'jin[*]and all other great and honorable characters?
honor doesn't win a war against the legion
Garrosh did nothing wrong
For the FORSAKEN
Greymane and Jaina are the making this mess because Varian Death "It not the Horde Fucking Fault!"
It is, they didn't coordinate their retreat with the Alliance. The faction whose warcry is: "Lok'tar Ogar! Victory or Death!" was the one that chickened out and backed off while the other faction was facing bigger Force.
Horde got outmaneuvered, chickened out and simply botched the entire assault.
They didn't coordinate? They blew a f*cking horn for everyone to hear, yet the Alliance feels betrayed somehow. Also, there's a difference dying honorably in battle and getting slaughtered from two fronts for no reason.
***** To coordinate a military retreat, all segments first prepare for the retreat, then retreat together.
Going "*tuut tuut sound the horn tuut tuut* We going back bitches, ya'll better run fo yo lives!" isn't coordinated...
True
To be fair, Blizzard failed during the Broken Shore cinematic on Allianceside. While the situation looked quite dire for the Horde, as Alliance you see how her archers slander off the ridge with no urgend haste and turn their backs to the alliance. From below, depicted as it was, you could come to the same conclution, that the Horde turns tail and leaves the Alliance to die. I like the horde version better because of how hasty the retreat looks.
Dat wolf-sound at 1:20 tho!! INNER BEAST!!!!!
Fuck yes! It's about goddamn time Genn got to show that undead bitch what's up.
A WoW cinematic that is not full of cancer. How rare.
a russian who can speak english, how rare
Solaxe S That's not russian, you muppet.
GO ON GENN!
I remember when we defeated Garrosh and Jaina asked Varian to dismantle the horde and then some called her a bitch, witch and even now as dreadlord when she is right. Anyway, this cinematic clearly shows who's the real bitch. Thank you Genn for chasing her.
No it just shows how much the Alliance is fully of Whiny Bitches that need therapy, Characters on horde side have ptsd issues too ya know?!
Sylvanas at the end: "What if I did what he did to that lantern... But instead I do it to the Helm of Domination?"
And thus Shadowlands began...
Man I've been waiting for Genns time to shine for so long!!
Anyone know if the Stormwind theme that plays when Genn smashes the lantern can be found anywhere? It's a pretty awesome version of the song.
Sylvanas.....your quest for immortality has left you vulnerable. I will have my vengeance! For Varian! For Gilneas! For my son!
lol..
the horde has this monster as "warchief"
Suits well for the faction of monsters
@@macrons593 true, everytime i think of the horde i think of the ugly looking orcs and skinny zombies they call undead. Blood elfs are the only normal looking ones but go Kuku for cocopufs if they have mana
Genn walked out of that like a BOSS!
Geen : Sylvanas ! your quest for immortality has left you vulnerable
Sylvanas : Tell that to Teldrassil
REVENGE FOR GILNEAS👍👍👊✊💪
Greymane is freaking bad ass dudes :-D
Arthas should have let her die
@@superslav268 You've never played Warcraft 3 as I can see, or even WOTLK. Arthas was a hero who became evil because he was corrupted by stronger force, when he took Frostmourne.
Sylvanas was a bitch since Warcraft 3, and he ressurected her because he thought the she didn't deserve to die so easily,cause she gave him so much trouble. After the end of WOTLK, after Arthas died, she didn't know what to do, and even tried to kill herself.The fact that she is also raising undead doesn't mean that she is fucking Arthas, man use your brains
''I'll have my VenGENNce...''
*flies away*
Who else loved it how she didn't shoot anymore arrows after she gripped her bow, I know I didn't.
For Varian For The ALLIENCE!
For Gilneas!
that noob died for nothing
I'll see Gilneas burn!
The only thing i see burning is Sylvanas dreams for immortality hehehe.
For the Alliance! (But I like how the Horde turned evil once again, undead are suppose to be evil af not have feelings, blizzard.)
Gilneas will rise again!!
Hell awaits, Sylvanas :^)
YEAHHH! That's what I'm talking about. The 7.1 raid that finishes up this story is gonna be badass.
dangit, i didnt see this video till now. That 180 no scope shot Sylva... pro biitch