Installing Starlink In a 100 Foot Tree!
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2022
- After much planning and searching for the proper help, I completed the installation of my Starlink Satellite Internet at my off grid cabin!
Now I have high speed internet in the middle of the deep woods of the Pacific Northwest! I hope this video can help give other folks ideas on how to install their Starlink when located amongst tall trees like me. It can be done!
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Wow I have a lot of respect for the man who climbed that tree!
Awesome video! My heart was pounding the entire time too! What he did was awesome! I could learn to do that with trees, but ... I wouldn't. Haha.
Thanks for this. I'm doing something similar but with a much smaller tree. Your solution for tree mounting is great 👍
Good luck with your installation. Glad I could help in some way! 👊
Metal in trees attracts lightning. Protect the tree and your antenna with a lightning rod. You can also attach things to a tree without nails. Thank you for sharing!
Hey there...thanks for sharing this. Does a lightning rod provide enough protection for a system like this?
You can decrease the risk of burning down the tree and the electronics when the lightning rod rises 3m above the tree and your antenna. But the electronics can still get damage. Search for the highest tree or point in the area of 25m around your antenna and let install a lightning rod there. The thing is that every conductor will attract lightning, but if a lightning does happen it counts how big (good) ist the conductor, can he catch the lightning at maximum height and does he conduct the lightning deep into a good conducting ground. Ask a professional! No DIY! Your antenna can attract lightnings that would otherwise struck miles away. The increased risk of lightning you already have with the antenna. Its now on keeping it far away from the trees and the shed. The electronics can be protected by additional voltage suppressing devices. But a minimum risk will be still there. A lightning can damage your electronics from a few 100m off.
Grounding would provide a better path should the tree/satellite be hit by lightening. With a good conductor traveling from the tree down into the soil, you can minimize current that would want to travel through the cable and into the house. However grounding does not attract or discourage lightning. On average lightning is more likely to hit objects that are sticking out higher then those nearby. A ground wire does not change that, it just gives it a better path to follow if it hits. @@carmelcrane7751
@@hyperchannel4048 A lighting rod would need to be higher than the starlink, why would be build a structure taller than the starlink and not just put it on there
Only if the metal is connected to the ground, in a tree it's insulated.
Wow, amazing job! I need someone like him to mount mine, in the same way lol ! Beautiful place!
Awesome video my friend, been thinking about doing the same with my starlink since all the trees have started blooming here
I'm in North Central Florida and have a couple of very healthy 70+ ft 50-year-old Laurel Oaks I could try something like this. However, the risk factor for lighting strikes is too high in the sunshine state. actually, 10x worse than Tropical Storms or Hurricanes. In my neck of the woods, it's not only the rods but the ground strikes that will fry your mains. Great challenge, great project!
That was so cool!
This is really inspiring. I just moved outside of Hood River and I have tall trees surrounding me. Just got Starlink and its on the ground until I can mount it on the roof. It works but definitely getting slowed because of obstructions. I'm hoping it'll be good enough up there but if not I think I'm going to copy what you did here.
I do specifically tree mount starlink installs in the gorge if you want yours set up!
Man that is awesome! Your tree guy is a God send.
Hey, if your phone supports wifi calling you can get rid of the cell booster. I was able to get rid of my cell booster. Super clear calls with wifi calling with my starlink. Great job by the way
Love it! So glad you made it work man. We will have to get Geronimo’s contact info for future tree climbing stuff here on the property
If Geranimo is around north woods I’d like to get his contact info please.
Your SkyLink needs a plexiglass umbrella of sorts.... Bonus Christmas Tree! I think that is the same Geronimo(like the Famous Indian) that I used to work with, very cool guy from Oaxaca, he was also an amazing photographer and had planted thousands of trees!
it is nice to check in and see what you doing do it all while your young
At some point it's going to need service, so you are either going to climb that tree when you are older, or get someone else to do it.
just completed my SL BEST OPTION install. used this great video as template, tried to make a few strategic improvements. local arborist- $350 to climb, trim, top, and mount dish in 75 foot giant hickory (use hardwood tree over pine). upgraded with heavy duty STEEL cable zip ties (around $13) instead of plastic for uv durability and longevity. critter and squirrel-proof/resistant was essential- upgraded with "conduit" (also for uv durability and longevity on SL cable), used 3/4" black polyethylene tubing (around $45). smooth inside made for easy PUSH thru SL cable on smaller dish end of cable. let tubing warm up in sun, extend fully for easy push thru of cable. black tubing is essentially camouflage and invisible against tree. used 4 simpson strong tie zmax galvanized 1-7/8' clamps (around $3.75/ea) on 8 foot 1-5/8" galvanized metal fence post pipe (around $30) with starlink pipe adapter (around $37). mounted with 4" exterior screws. on way down, arborist used 2.5" exterior screws on 3/4" conduit clamps (20pak, around $7) about every 10 feet. strategically position the "conduit" on the trimmed side of tree- away from branches where squirrels can sit, chill out, and chew. to protect tree integrity, had arborist spray "spectracide pruning seal" (around $7) on top cut. its a black tar spray, seals tree from elements and minimizes insect exposure/invasion.
Love it 🙌
You might be able to get rid of the cell phone booster now since you can use WiFi calling. Nice video I am planning on doing the same at my cabin.
How does the tree.grow when topped like that ? Have you had to cut branches down since then?
gotta do this upstate NY, what cord did you use for your wire? how many feet did you get? thansk!
I noticed you have a bag around the dish… is that to assist w/ any moisture? Is the signal still fine and working okay?
How is the Starlink connection in adverse weather? How about in high winds when the tree is swinging?
That guy is a beast
Where did you find the brackets to screw the pole to the tree?
checking in a year later. i have the same issue- lots of tall trees around a cabin. has this solution held up for the year? any issues with the trees movement in winds/storms?
@diegotrieshard any updates?
Is there a reason you did not go with the ground pole mount offered by Starlink?
How is your connection? I also have my Starlink dish mounted on top of a tree and I have intermittent drops like every 5 minutes.
I just got my Starlink system today and have tree obstructions as well. I have a bucket truck that will get me up pretty high to install a similar setup. I was wondering however if you have any issues when the wind blows and causes movement of the dish at the top of the tree.
Don't discount the danger of a lightning strike, a lightning rod would be a good idea, too.
Diego, great video! I see the brackets you attached to the pole, but can you describe how you actually connected the brackets to the tree? Thanks.
Thank you brother Brian 🙏 I had Jerónimo use an impact drill to screw 3" decking fasteners through the holes in the brackets and into the tree. They were yellow with a T25 torques bit, I got them from home depot with the brackets. Hope that helps 🤙
Where are you located? I need a guy like that to install my Starlink, your woods look similar to mine so thought I’d ask! Thanks
Definitely need to get some copper mesh to fill those holes. Sandpaper sponge won't keep the rodents out 🙂😉
This is a terrific video! We live in the middle of a Ponderosa Pine, Sugar Pine, Doug Fir, Western Cedar forest in the Sierra Nevada Mts. Some of our pines are MONSTERS! I’m hoping you can answer a few questions. We will need to mount ours just like you did and it’s on the way! Hoping you could post a list of extras you needed for this install? It seems you must have needed a “cable extension” if it’s 100ft up (unless the new units come with more than 100ft. How long of a galvanized pipe section did you use under the dish? Does wind moving the top of the tree affect your signal? Lastly, how did you choose which tree to install dish on? Thanks again, this was exactly the video I needed to see. Much appreciated.
Just did this this morning. Did it differently. Bought a floor flange and 1 1/4 galvanized nipple. The tree is topped leaving a flat. The flange is screwed to the flat and then the nipple was screwed into the flange. The starlink pole mount is fitted to the nipple and then the antenna is pointed north and bobs your uncle. Starlink has a 150 ft cable. The nipple is 1 ft. The wind does not affect the signal. Chose a tree that was close to the house and had about 20 ft extra after the install. Coiled up inside the house. Mine is in a ponderosa.
@@tfogelson3139 - Thanks. My biggest issue is no trees really close so with going up a tree and then running to the house, 150 won’t make it. It’s working fairly well now(10x better than Hughesnet was!) 😊👍🏼
Maybe I will try that!
You should have sealed the zip ties from the weather, I am some what of an expert on zip ties. I have been using them for 25 years. I build acft and worked for nasa. The sun and cold will wear out the zip Ty’s and make them brittle, I wish you would have wrapped them in some really good tape for the elements and sealed it with some acft sealant. It might last 3-4 years but then it will break and the clamp going into the antenna base which is built in will be wearing into the wire. With the wind and sun beating on that plastic lock on the internal lock of the zip Ty. It should last a couple years depending on the quality of zip ty. Panduit is the best in the industry for acft. But I’m sure there is some industrial commercial ones that are good too
How long does the power generator last?
Diego! Checking in. How's the setup treating you? Any maintenance required?
that is the way to go for internet................wow
Are you there? It looks like you used 4 clamps on the pole to the tree in the end. Is that correct? It looks like that from your final shots with your drone. What kind of pipe did you use? I can see you used 1" 5/8", but what about the thickness? I am working on this now. First I need to work out the pipe and clamps. My tree is 140 feet tall fir in Northern California. Up there, in the winter, there can be strong winds that push the thinner trees 15 to 20 feet. This dish looks like a sail to me. It could be lifted right off the mast. Then it could be sent down at my house. I want to think of everything before I put it up there.
Are you using conduit grade pipe?
What about the wind swaying the Dishy up there?
Lol this is terrifying. He has to take his safety strap off to get around a bunch of branches. Dude has balls of steel.
I assumed he had 2 straps so one could stay on while going around branches, but 🤷♂. Balls of steel indeed if it was just one.
Thank you for the video, what type of clamps did you use for the mounting of the pole to the tree?
They're called "Simpson Strong-Tie 2-in 12-Gauge Zmax Steel Pipe Rail Tie". I purchased them at my local Home Depot with the metal pole I used 👍
@@DiegoTriesHard Many thanks
How many high wind storms has it seen?
I’m curious too please give us an update!!
Yeah, maybe he died or his dish fell from the tree. I don't know here he is located, but here in the Santa Cruz mountains, the idiot Musk turned all the dishes to the west. So now that I topped the appropriate trees, I am facing more trees. So I started researching people who modified the dish so that Musk could control the direction. There are lots of good CZcams videos on that.
I would de limb half at least of those branches. Less wind to sway the tree
We are waiting on our tree guy to do the same project. This was very helpful!! 2 questions: How long was the pole you used? Also, did you splice the 75 foot and the 150 foot cable together or was the 150 foot cable sufficient?
I used an 8ft pole, and I used the 150ft cable, worked great!
@@DiegoTriesHard Thanks!
We are doing this can u tell. Me all equip I need. Thanks
Have you had any problem on windy days? The trees really get goin' when the wind blows here, even the big ones.
Ya it's been going offline a little here and there, when the tree sways I think the antenna goes offline and waits to stabilize before reconnecting to the satellites.
Thanks for the video. Have you observed your outages from the Starlink application? Are you getting any? If so, how frequent and how long are they?
I’m assuming that the tree climber topped the tree off to keep it from growing vertically and obstructing the dish. Will topping the tree affect the tree’s health and cause it to die prematurely?
How has your setup behaved in windy weather? Is the swaying of the tree and satellite dish affecting your outages? If so, how?
I’m asking all this because I have a similar site and am considering mounting the dish in a tree. Your answers will help me decide whether to pursue that option.
Thank you!
I'm not sure how cutting off the top of the tree will affect the health of it going forward. I sure hope it doesn't cause it to die, then I would have to cut it down, which would be a huge bummer.
The starlink works well enough for checking emails, and streaming some online videos... but, it has had a tendancy to intermittently lose signal. I think it's due to the tree moving. Although it's slight movement, I think it causes it to constantly be searching for satellites. I think the antenna is optimized to work in a completely stationary position (that's just speculation on my part, based on how it's been performing while mounted on the tree).
My neighbor just finished his install and did it a little different...
He put it at approximately 135’ in a 145’ tall tree. He said he’d rather clear branches from all around it vs. topping the tree as topping tends to make the tree grow more branches on the top that can turn into multiple trunks later on. It shouldn’t kill the tree as the tops are sometimes blown out in a wind storm. The tree that his is in looks like that happened at some point.
He used the long wall mount and ran the cable and a 10 ga. ground wire in 3/4” pvc conduit so squirrels or other animals couldn’t chew on the wire. He had to splice a 150’ & 75’ together to make the full run into his cabin. Approximately 220’ run. Works great with very little interruptions so far. It’s faster than the internet he has at home!
@@DiegoTriesHard Did he connect the long wall mount directly to the tree? DId he reinforce that connection in anyway or just installed it like it was on the side of a house?
@@DiegoTriesHard how did he link the pvc together running 135ft up a tree?
How does it work when there's wind blowing/moving the tree?
It has been loosing signal when the tree sways... but it comes back online shortly after it stabilizes. Luckily it's very rarely windy where it's located
Couple of questions as I’m going to be trying the same thing once I get my Starlink. How many feet of cable did you use? Have you had any loss of connection when the tree sways in the wind? Thanks
Not sure about the wind, it's been calm since I installed it... so I'm not sure how it will react yet. According to the Starlink website, it's "Designed and rigorously tested to handle a wide range of temperatures and weather conditions, Starlink is proven to withstand extreme cold and heat, hail, sleet, heavy rain, and gale force winds - and it can even melt snow." We'll see!
I received a 75 foot cable with my equipment, but purchased a 150 foot cable for this application. My tree is 100 feet from ground to top.
Best of luck with your install! 👊
I'll be interested to see his results in a very windy situation, but I suspect he'll be fine, given that the dish primarily uses a phased-array (meaning it does most of the signal aligning virtually internally) to track the satellites. The situation is not too different from those who have mounted Starlink on a boat that is rocking in the water.
Hi Diego just closed on a cabin in the same neighborhood. I have the same issue with Starlink and may have to copy the idea. Thanks for sharing this!
@@benbarnwell1521 if you're on Instagram send me a direct message, my profile is @diegotrieshard, would love to chat! 👊
@@DiegoTriesHard hi Diego. Thanks for the great idea. What type of conduit or pole strap did you use? Also, where did you get it? I have an 8 ft pole that is 1 1/2 inches thick. Thank you.
Have you been worried about lightning protection? I am going to have to install mine in a tree similar to your method but can't think of a way to ground the satellite dish.
I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping for the best 😂
@@DiegoTriesHardmaybe install surge protector so the modem won’t fry if a lightning struck. Very cool solution btw bravo!
Would PVC pipe help reduce the lightning risk?
How has this held up in the snow? Do you still get uninterrupted service in heavy snow?
Not sure, it's still summer here so it hasn't snowed yet.
The dish has a heater in it that melts the snow off.
5:57 What if this dish got fried by lightning?😅😅
Or does. Damaged 😅
8:33 hey how to buy cellular booster?
Anyone do this in the Boone, NC area? Would love to discuss
how much did G charge you for mounting dish?
i asked diegotrieshard same question in another video and he replied, cost was around $400.
Any lightning concerns?
Yup 😂 but I was afraid PVC would get brittle and break if exposed to the elements over the course of a few years.
What cell phone booster do you have and the service type?
It's a WeBoost Home Multiroom, product number 470144, weboost.com
I use Verizon 👍
@@DiegoTriesHard thank you
Should’ve used thick pvc pipe/pole instead. Last thing you want is lightning to strike that metal pole. Sound dumbs considering there’s a lot of other trees around. But nice! I Setup mine up 2 days ago!
Didn't think about the lightning aspect, solid point.
I decided against PVC because despite its lighter weight, I didn't trust its longevity. Here in Washington the weather can get extreme on both ends of the spectrum, and I've seen PVC decay in this climate when left exposed to the elements.
what size pvc pipe did you use?
@@irishpirate6779 1 3/4
ive researched the pvc and best option is avoid the SCHEDULE 40 pvc. instead, SCHEDULE 80 is best. has some u.v. resistance and is much thicker and stronger option than the S40 pvc. after considering S80 pvc, think im still going to go with the metal pipe option used in this video. ive seen multiple videos with everyone using the metal pipe with no problems. if the SL dish gets hit, everything is going to be fried anyway, regardless of pvc or metal pipe.
When the squirrels start chewing, it'll be offline after the first rain.
Hope not 😬😬
So do you not have squirrels there? They love to chew cables.
Lots of squirrels around here, I'm just crossing my fingers and asking them kindly not to do that 🤞
@@DiegoTriesHard Have a honey-(roasted peanut)-pot for them at the base of the tree
Hey can I get this tree guys number? I need to do this exact job here in Hood River. If I could just use your guy he’d already know exactly what I need.
oh the trees is too high
How much did he charge you for that dangerous job?
Im guessing...'Bout Tree-fiddy 🤣
$1200
@@Piledriver2235 I'm a year late on this but.... GOT EEEEEM
I would kill to have your lifestyle...
It is becoming ever more clear that this guy is no longer here. Maybe his Starlink has fallen out of the tree? Maybe he is in one of the fire areas that burned this year. I am doing a similar project, but with a wider topped tree trunk up 140 feet. Starlink says they have only tested the dish to 66+ mph and suggest limiting the wind exposure to under 50mph. Then again, another support person said the dish was tested to 75mph.
Thats a bad idea. Lighning attracted, bird pecking on it and also of the cable is disconnected from the satellite you're screwed
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