The SAS guys in Iraq did the right thing by doing their own thing to save their mates and "F" those sitting aircon offices drinking tea. You guy are not called the SAS for nothing and many should remember that.
oh you mean the "fake war" that was in Iraq. we have not gone to a REAL WAR SENSE Vietnam, so f*ck off about the "SAS" guys. the SAS are cowards and will ALWAYS be a coward.
They were SRR and; there were no none action orders from London. Yes, some Task Force came down from Ballad, Delta also offered support from Task Force (but, was a total British operation). The operation was planned and conducted very much with the British GOC and British Consulate General Basra. The British Ambassador in Baghdad was linked in to the feeds and gave his support. Regular infantry were also heavily involved, it was in fact a Warrior IFV that went through the compound wall to gain access.
@@joesgotya9930 f'g idiot, 14 has changed names so many times to hid, their the same people. We use the current name or, our own like Det. Try serving and then comment. You were not there, Oh yes, I was
You wrote along paragraph stating they were SRR were in fa t your wrong,because they were SAS.As the other guy stated SRR wasn't even established at the time.Where did you get your info from????
Yes.They made the right decision to save their brothers.If it took a court martial to save these 2 men then ot was a court martial they faced but they were still going to do it & damned the consequences.
Yes they did… the camaraderie between these guys is thick.. I know because a good friend of mine was SAS from Britain .. he had an u believable story to tell being held captive and tortured for 30 days straight .. brutal is all I can say…he would have done the same with his group.. it’s their love for each other that saved these guys❤️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@WTF_its_me_Kevin Kevin are you a part of a special team? If you were then you would have to look no further than the hundreds of men and women we saved!
I heard that when they got caught they were dressed up as locals, driving around shooting at civilians. The Iraqi police were confused at first, they didn't know these were special forces.
I was once told this and if true its funny as. I was told the SBS teach the SAS how to launch amphibious assult and the SAS teach the SBS how to launch air assults haha.
If they were the best, you wouldn't be on here constantly trying to remind everyone. The best doesn't need to remind others they are the best. Humble yourself.
I think David sterling and paddy Maine founders of the sas would be well chuffed to her about what they did the legacy they started continuing to this day
No military service history I'm a civilian but I say in terms of right and wrong-they saved a life that's right on. In terms of big picture what if that one save cost a whole platoon special air service helicopter close support. What then a platoon or one man? Idk
The pictures of the two guys with bandages on their heads are not them,these are actors. One of them,was Scottish SAS seargent Colin MacLachlan,and whoever said it was SRR is talking nonsense.
@ruthiecastro9519 Exactly!! But I know the guy on the right with black Tshirt on sitting down is Scottish ex SAS seargent Colin McLachlan even though it's pixilated,I can just tell its him by his posture,but I also know the story,and know,it was two SAS lads.The lads you see their faces are actors. Colin McLachlan's book "The Pilgrim" was banned by the M.O.D about six or seven years ago although some where released,it eventually got taken off the shelves.
When are you going to deal with the allegations of extrajudicial killings. Why is there an ongoing inquiry into war crimes? General Sir Mark Carleton-Smith, the former head of UK Special Forces, was briefed about the alleged unlawful killings but did not pass on the evidence to the Royal Military Police, even after the RMP began a murder investigation into the SAS squadron. Why? What happened to the guys that were taking "head counts". Why don't you ask those that have spoken out on the channel - what are you afraid of. All of these items are markers of group that lost its way by not calling out bad actors.
It seems that government are willing to send these men to do there work. But when the shit hits the fan theyjust leave them to rot. Sorry but the sas did the right thing . Our government want to be jailed gor thisvrime to our services.disgravful
Annnnnnd this is why Delta Force and JSOC built up the Mohawk program in 2005, recruiting and training hand picked Iraqis that could blend into their own communities with ease, and look completely natural.. The Moahawks generated thousands of targets for the Task Force, often getting the location of their targets inside a 10 digit grid, with up close photos taken from just inches away. They were the most reliable and effective reconnaissance and surveillance asset in the apex years of the Iraq insurgency. The idea that a Western Special Forces operator is just gonna throw on a disguise and drive a local car, and think he’s going to fool people that have lived there going back circa ancient Mesopotamia is a total pipe dream. 😂 That shit may of worked in the Balkans, but not Iraq 🫠
Let me remind you what your commander of Special Operations General McCrystal said…In October 2009, Gen McChrystal attended a service at Hereford Cathedral to mark the end of the SAS's campaign in Iraq and spoke at a dinner in the SAS sergeants' mess afterwards. "The squadrons that were part of that [JSOC] were part of one team that was all linked together with intelligence, ISR [Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance], execution. "But they focused more in Baghdad than anyone else and it was when the history is finally understood it was the day after day, night after night, constant focus against networks in Baghdad that were slaughtering an incredible number of Iraqis that led to success." From 2006 to 2009, SAS squadrons of about 60 men, commanded by a major, would spend six months in Baghdad as JSOC's "Task Force Black" and later "Task Force Knight". Asked about their contribution to defeating the Sunni-led insurgency in Iraq, Gen McChrystal responded: "Essential. Could not have done it without them." He singled out the SAS's A Squadron in 2007. "I know one squadron that in a six-month rotation of 180 days I think they did 175 operations. "That's going out every night into combat. combat. I got to go with them several times. These were not just drive around patrols, these were combat assaults. ( sometimes up to 10 a night) "Sometimes right in on the objective by air, more often land away and walk in several kilometres so that you could achieve some surprise and sometimes driving." "Many of these are the same guys who for years here and in Iraq have been at it. And these aren't young kids. These are men with kids in high school and college, they don't think they're bullet proof any more - many of them have proven they're not. They show courage every day and that's pretty extraordinary." That was all quotes from the General McCrystal... And General David Petraeus, CIA director at the time, said this... "22 SAS are absolutely spectacular. We felt privileged to have them in Iraq. Brits should be very proud of all their forces and take special pride in their special forces." "They would use extraordinary skill. And your conventional forces demonstrate the same capacity. I have always been impressed by the courage, capacity for independent action, skill and exceptional will of your soldiers. conventional forces are Royal Marines Commandos & Paras, both Tier 2 forces ). So “that shit only worked in the Balkans” is complete utter bullshit.
It’s actually 100% Bull shit considering the Balkans was not even a 1/10th of the kinetic op tempo that Iraq was. LOL It was also JSOC that brought forth UAV ISR and SIGINT intercept TTPs from Columbia and Bosnia into Iraq that generated that scale of intelligence in Iraq. The F3EAD targeting template came from JSOC, and the SAS were following (their lead) that didn’t come from your UK SF, they were the part time Christmas help, back filling squadrons that were short on shooters. I’ll REMIND YOU, that same SAS Squadron gave mass donations to the family members of fallen Delta Operators, who took 60% causalities by 2008. That’s a testament as to who was far more kinetically active in operations, and it wasn’t the SAS. This is also coming from Mark Urban, which is who you keep referencing LOL I’m not interested or impressed with US Officers paying complimentary platitudes to your SAS. Why don’t you post that famous podcast where Chris Ryan says “Delta is a far more capable and dynamic Unit over the SAS ?” You must LOVE that one, you Tier One Bullshitter
@FORTISWARRIORS Generals whispering sweat nothings at ceremonies is par for the course. US generals say the same thing about everyone they work with. I'd take political grand standing with a grain of salt. It was very much a team effort, but the UK SF in Iraq relied heavily on the US, this isn't a secret. UK Special Forces often found themselves hampered heavily by ROE and even had a hard time keeping up with JSOC counterparts at times due to a lack of kit (to include proper night vision during the early invasion of Iraq) and funding. Let us also not forget Mark Urban's book of Task Force Black. Then SAS Commander Lt Col William Richards was absolutely infatuated with Delta, remarking that his SAS were "best used and most lethal when operating in the style of Delta." Based on how many incidents the SAS had in Iraq, from the Basra Prison Incident to Op Abalone, what OP said is true. There were far better methods of conducting intelligence gathering and kill chain operatipns. I don't see it as a slight against the SAS. Also, it's odd that he would praise your forces participation in Basra as "excellent" when the reality is far different. Not only had British forces failed to defeat the local militias, but they were increasingly forced into their secured airport by these militias, until they eventually opted to pull out, paying the insurgents not to attack them in the process. Read Frank Ledwidge's book Losing Small Wars: British Military Failures in Iraq and Afghanistan. While I do not doubt the individual bravery and professionalism of the British Army, they certainly weren't spectacular.
Sometimes it’s better to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. Perfect example of this.
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The SAS guys in Iraq did the right thing by doing their own thing to save their mates and "F" those sitting aircon offices drinking tea. You guy are not called the SAS for nothing and many should remember that.
oh you mean the "fake war" that was in Iraq. we have not gone to a REAL WAR SENSE Vietnam, so f*ck off about the "SAS" guys. the SAS are cowards and will ALWAYS be a coward.
It was the right thing to do….no one gets left behind…and screw em politicians
🙌🏾👍🏾👌🏾👏🏾💪🏾 I agree
You god damn right! Not only was this bad ass on another level but they also managed save their mates to live another day.
Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6...
Best comment by a mile.
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Damn Straight! Leave No Brother Behind! ⚔️
They were SRR and; there were no none action orders from London. Yes, some Task Force came down from Ballad, Delta also offered support from Task Force (but, was a total British operation). The operation was planned and conducted very much with the British GOC and British Consulate General Basra. The British Ambassador in Baghdad was linked in to the feeds and gave his support. Regular infantry were also heavily involved, it was in fact a Warrior IFV that went through the compound wall to gain access.
One of them was Scottish SAS seargent Colin Maclachlan.
Lol The SRR didn’t become a organization until late 2005-06..
@@joesgotya9930 f'g idiot, 14 has changed names so many times to hid, their the same people. We use the current name or, our own like Det. Try serving and then comment. You were not there, Oh yes, I was
My goodness thank god no one knows all about this.😮
You wrote along paragraph stating they were SRR were in fa t your wrong,because they were SAS.As the other guy stated SRR wasn't even established at the time.Where did you get your info from????
Yes.They made the right decision to save their brothers.If it took a court martial to save these 2 men then ot was a court martial they faced but they were still going to do it & damned the consequences.
Thanks to our American brothers who offered to help 🇺🇸 🇬🇧
Y'all have all of these shorts that are interesting, but where do I find the full interviews?
We need a movie about this 🇬🇧
These OGs speak on this! I seen doc years ago
Of course, they did the correct thing
Yes
Strict orders often suck.
They destroy politics with substitution of fact😂
Yes they did… the camaraderie between these guys is thick.. I know because a good friend of mine was SAS from Britain .. he had an u believable story to tell being held captive and tortured for 30 days straight .. brutal is all I can say…he would have done the same with his group.. it’s their love for each other that saved these guys❤️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
%100 shields up for a brother
If they hadnt have done this I would question them.
I heard that they were trying to get two militias to fight each other. Divide and conquer kinda thing. They got caught with rpg's and militia flags.
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Hell yeah the right decision. I was a capt in a special unit nomen get left behind
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@@WTF_its_me_Kevin Kevin are you a part of a special team? If you were then you would have to look no further than the hundreds of men and women we saved!
Fuckin comedian 😅😅😅😅
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I heard that when they got caught they were dressed up as locals, driving around shooting at civilians. The Iraqi police were confused at first, they didn't know these were special forces.
There and now via CZcams one CIA guy seems to be in most situations and videos, I wonder why!
Secrets of the Sas
Who am I to judge?
S.A.S , S.B.S. Nobody's better, WHO DARES WINS . So proud and thankful that these warriors protect me and my family.
Good luck for S.A.S🇬🇧 and S.B.S 🇬🇧. Great respect from 🇵🇱🕊️🤝
@@DianaKazimiera-how come you never hear anyone say there were in the sbs ? Their all day sas.
How come you don't hear from anyone who was in the sbs their all day sas ?? 🇬🇧🏴🙏♥️🇦🇫🏴🏴🇷🇺🇮🇪
I was once told this and if true its funny as. I was told the SBS teach the SAS how to launch amphibious assult and the SAS teach the SBS how to launch air assults haha.
If they were the best, you wouldn't be on here constantly trying to remind everyone. The best doesn't need to remind others they are the best. Humble yourself.
Goverments always fall, soldiers srand tall...
I think David sterling and paddy Maine founders of the sas would be well chuffed to her about what they did the legacy they started continuing to this day
Colonel Stirling and Lt Colonel maine were Mavericks. That's why the SAS works.
No military service history I'm a civilian but I say in terms of right and wrong-they saved a life that's right on. In terms of big picture what if that one save cost a whole platoon special air service helicopter close support. What then a platoon or one man? Idk
Fuck yeah they did!
Sas really stands for super ard soldiers
no it dont, it stands for "SissyAzzSissy" because that is what they really are.
you think these elite warriors really bother what we think and what their superiors think of them?? haha
Who Dares Wins! Who Died Waited!
The pictures of the two guys with bandages on their heads are not them,these are actors. One of them,was Scottish SAS seargent Colin MacLachlan,and whoever said it was SRR is talking nonsense.
It’s better to keep their identities hidden! Think about it!
@ruthiecastro9519 Exactly!! But I know the guy on the right with black Tshirt on sitting down is Scottish ex SAS seargent Colin McLachlan even though it's pixilated,I can just tell its him by his posture,but I also know the story,and know,it was two SAS lads.The lads you see their faces are actors. Colin McLachlan's book "The Pilgrim" was banned by the M.O.D about six or seven years ago although some where released,it eventually got taken off the shelves.
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When are you going to deal with the allegations of extrajudicial killings. Why is there an ongoing inquiry into war crimes? General Sir Mark Carleton-Smith, the former head of UK Special Forces, was briefed about the alleged unlawful killings but did not pass on the evidence to the Royal Military Police, even after the RMP began a murder investigation into the SAS squadron. Why? What happened to the guys that were taking "head counts". Why don't you ask those that have spoken out on the channel - what are you afraid of. All of these items are markers of group that lost its way by not calling out bad actors.
It seems that government are willing to send these men to do there work. But when the shit hits the fan theyjust leave them to rot. Sorry but the sas did the right thing . Our government want to be jailed gor thisvrime to our services.disgravful
Annnnnnd this is why Delta Force and JSOC built up the Mohawk program in 2005, recruiting and training hand picked Iraqis that could blend into their own communities with ease, and look completely natural.. The Moahawks generated thousands of targets for the Task Force, often getting the location of their targets inside a 10 digit grid, with up close photos taken from just inches away. They were the most reliable and effective reconnaissance and surveillance asset in the apex years of the Iraq insurgency. The idea that a Western Special Forces operator is just gonna throw on a disguise and drive a local car, and think he’s going to fool people that have lived there going back circa ancient Mesopotamia is a total pipe dream. 😂
That shit may of worked in the Balkans, but not Iraq 🫠
Let me remind you what your commander of Special Operations General McCrystal said…In October 2009, Gen McChrystal attended a service at Hereford Cathedral to mark the end of the SAS's campaign in Iraq and spoke at a dinner in the SAS sergeants' mess afterwards.
"The squadrons that were part of that [JSOC] were part of one team that was all linked together with intelligence, ISR [Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance], execution.
"But they focused more in Baghdad than anyone else and it was when the history is finally understood it was the day after day, night after night, constant focus against networks in Baghdad that were slaughtering an incredible number of Iraqis that led to success." From 2006 to 2009, SAS squadrons of about 60 men, commanded by a major, would spend six months in Baghdad as JSOC's "Task Force Black" and later "Task Force Knight".
Asked about their contribution to defeating the Sunni-led insurgency in Iraq, Gen McChrystal responded: "Essential. Could not have done it without them." He singled out the SAS's A Squadron in 2007. "I know one squadron that in a six-month rotation of 180 days I think they did 175 operations.
"That's going out every night into combat. combat. I got to go with them several times. These were not just drive around patrols, these were combat assaults. ( sometimes up to 10 a night)
"Sometimes right in on the objective by air, more often land away and walk in several kilometres so that you could achieve some surprise and sometimes driving."
"Many of these are the same guys who for years here and in Iraq have been at it. And these aren't young kids. These are men with kids in high school and college, they don't think they're bullet proof any more - many of them have proven they're not. They show courage every day and that's pretty extraordinary."
That was all quotes from the General McCrystal...
And General David Petraeus, CIA director at the time, said this...
"22 SAS are absolutely spectacular. We felt privileged to have them in Iraq. Brits should be very proud of all their forces and take special pride in their special forces."
"They would use extraordinary skill. And your conventional forces demonstrate the same capacity. I have always been impressed by the courage, capacity for independent action, skill and exceptional will of your soldiers. conventional forces are Royal Marines Commandos & Paras, both Tier 2 forces ). So “that shit only worked in the Balkans” is complete utter bullshit.
It’s actually 100% Bull shit considering the Balkans was not even a 1/10th of the kinetic op tempo that Iraq was. LOL It was also JSOC that brought forth UAV ISR and SIGINT intercept TTPs from Columbia and Bosnia into Iraq that generated that scale of intelligence in Iraq. The F3EAD targeting template came from JSOC, and the SAS were following (their lead) that didn’t come from your UK SF, they were the part time Christmas help, back filling squadrons that were short on shooters. I’ll REMIND YOU, that same SAS Squadron gave mass donations to the family members of fallen Delta Operators, who took 60% causalities by 2008. That’s a testament as to who was far more kinetically active in operations, and it wasn’t the SAS. This is also coming from Mark Urban, which is who you keep referencing LOL
I’m not interested or impressed with US Officers paying complimentary platitudes to your SAS. Why don’t you post that famous podcast where Chris Ryan says “Delta is a far more capable and dynamic Unit over the SAS ?”
You must LOVE that one, you Tier One Bullshitter
@FORTISWARRIORS Generals whispering sweat nothings at ceremonies is par for the course. US generals say the same thing about everyone they work with. I'd take political grand standing with a grain of salt. It was very much a team effort, but the UK SF in Iraq relied heavily on the US, this isn't a secret. UK Special Forces often found themselves hampered heavily by ROE and even had a hard time keeping up with JSOC counterparts at times due to a lack of kit (to include proper night vision during the early invasion of Iraq) and funding. Let us also not forget Mark Urban's book of Task Force Black. Then SAS Commander Lt Col William Richards was absolutely infatuated with Delta, remarking that his SAS were "best used and most lethal when operating in the style of Delta." Based on how many incidents the SAS had in Iraq, from the Basra Prison Incident to Op Abalone, what OP said is true. There were far better methods of conducting intelligence gathering and kill chain operatipns. I don't see it as a slight against the SAS.
Also, it's odd that he would praise your forces participation in Basra as "excellent" when the reality is far different. Not only had British forces failed to defeat the local militias, but they were increasingly forced into their secured airport by these militias, until they eventually opted to pull out, paying the insurgents not to attack them in the process. Read Frank Ledwidge's book Losing Small Wars: British Military Failures in Iraq and Afghanistan. While I do not doubt the individual bravery and professionalism of the British Army, they certainly weren't spectacular.
Why do American accented individuals feel the need to commentate any and every topic! In the words of Winston Churchill,” bugger off”
Why do British accented individuals feel the need to commentate any and every topic? Quit complaining ya bloody hypocrite. 😂