A Day on Amtrak's 110 MPH Michigan Line: All 8 Trains
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Class VI track means you'll get in and out of a block pretty damn quick. We're very excited to present "Speed! Through the Rain," a day spent on Amtrak's Michigan Line, where we caught all eight scheduled trains in the 110 MPH territory.
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This video is a good illustration of why the speed of an approaching train is almost impossible to gauge. The train looks like it is crawling to you and then suddenly it zips by at 110, 79, 60, and even 40. Obey the crossing signals and save your life.
Well said!..AmorY Bendiciones 🙏🏽💕
@@aureliafrazier5927 Thank you!
Hannah, You should see an F-14 Tomcat going Mach 1.5 fly by, back in the day. A fighter will demonstrate this by approaching 5 miles away, low, on the port side of an aircraft carrier. With your two index fingers plugging your ears, you can see the fighter jet, but cannot hear it. At .5 mile, you can see a large cloud following behind, this is water vapor forming on the shock wave. Just a couple of seconds past the bow there is a HUGE BANG!!! That’s the sonic boom! It rattles your rib cage! Also scares the @#$& out of you. Most carriers will do this the day before returning from deployment or local training operations to allow the crew to witness a Mach 1 fly by... “The Need For Speed” just like Amtrak and fast freights... At sea level Mach 1 is: 761 mph. This is also the last plane to depart for maintenance at their respective Naval Air Station. Just put a couple of wings through the dinning car and you’ll see Amtrak’s SW Chief go airborne off the tracks, giving the passengers something to ‘text’ about. 🤔🤣 🚂 🛩 Go Navy, Beat Army. 😀🤨🏈⛵️
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@@dennisammann9104 omg that sounds amazing, I love airplanes as well we have an airshow every year at Willow Run Airport near Ypsilanti Michigan, truly awesome! Blessings to you and everyone here! 🙏🏽💕
This is speed at which these locomotives were designed to operate! AWEOME!
those GE-Erie pistons, beating like indigenous drums..
Yeah, 65mph, like the curves are built for.
@@prjndigo do some research before you make stupid comments. Just shows how little you know about things you’re commenting on.
Finally, a railroad video without a bunch of ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM.You let the trains come too you. Very nicely done.
thanks you sir! Not much else you can do but do the math on this speed and then wait. Didn't have to wait too long at all! :-)
@@EDOTrains lets wait for brightline
extention to orlando airport
Excellent video!! I love how amtrak goes at 110mph! It's so fun and when I hear the train sound comes it sounds like a tornado
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I worked near the tracks in three oaks and those trains do go that fast.
2:40 All passenger trains should travel at speeds like these.
In many parts of Europe, for the most part, they do.
don't count us out yet, Finn!
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I remember the days of Amtrak's Rohr Turbotrains, or RTLs as they were known by. They would regularly take some straightaways at 130 mph. They couldn't do that for too long though because the tracks where I live weren't in such great shape back in the day.
JE--love the old photos of the same in Craig Sanders' Amtrak in the Heartland, in particular. Let me know if you model at all, as we've done some parts for the Jouef models of those trainsets. Thank you for watching, and I surely hope you'll subscribe for more great ( R X R ) videos!
@@EDOTrains I used to model, but the hobby got to be too expensive, plus I live in a small, 1 bedroom apt. so as you can imagine, there's no room to run trains here.
More consistent high speed than a lot of the Northeast Corridor
That could very well be a fact.
I'm a Michigander who's been on the Wolverine and the NEC, and you could be right!
They need an Acela
im from the new england area yes, this is more consistent. You need an acela Chicago to Detroit would make stacks for amtrak.
The fact that Americans think 110 mph is high speed 🤷♂️
Good to see the tracks well maintained and looking fit for the Amtrak trains. It’s about time The USA railroads come roaring back from their dismal state. Looking forward to riding the rails in the future!
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I enjoyed watching this video. I am not as concerned about the precise speed of the trains as some people are. I lived through the days when it looked like passenger trains were going to disappear completely, so I enjoy seeing them whenever I can.
you know it. This was shot my second-to-last day before leaving the company, and I made sure to share it with my colleagues as a reminder of all that can be good about passenger rail outside of the Northeast Corridor.
Welcome back to those days...
First time watching Amtrak this close ! Thanks for sharing- exciting!
I've traveled on the Wolverine and Blue Water umpteen times between Kalamazoo and Chicago... They do go that fast... most towns come and go in a blink of an eye!!
a mile every 33 seconds!
Literally my favorite trains. I've used them to get to Chicago quite a few times ^^
Amtrak trains are very beautiful and I really like the sound they make when they pass.
symphonic sounds, no?
@@EDOTrains Beautiful sound
Truly an awesome video! Thank you.👍👍
I have enjoyed my Amtrak trips from Battle Creek to Chicago and back. I miss going to Chicago because my friends sold their downtown Chicago apartment.
Im in Eaton County. That would be a great ride. Will have to look into that.
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I really like the lawton rock building @ 8:11. Those engines were really hauling butt! Thanks for sharing! I saved it to my playlist!
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Great speed. Awesome catches!
you're the best!
NS GP60 7149 was star of the Pentrex video Through The Rathole Cab Ride, back when the engine was still very young and she was the only unit on a long heavy RoadRailer train. Nice to see she's still out there working for Norfolk Southern in 2019.
Wow, this is so cool! Thanks for sharing this! I subbed.
awesome! Do you have any other faves from our current uploads?
Well the conductor on my train wasn't lying....I asked him how fast are we going??? he said "110"...……….September 7th 2019.
Average speed here in the northeast.. on the highways.
I always use my GPS on the train to determine our speed. Been as high as 122mph between Lancaster, PA and NYC.
@@dennismullen9700 wow thats fast!
@Jack Liberman holy shit nobody is going to read that
@Jack Liberman it was a joke dude
very serene -- a relaxing evening watch -- thanks
thank you, was going for the cinematic and dramatic effect!
Excellent, I loved it...Thank you! I'm subscribing👍
I really enjoyed this.
Daniel, Stephanie--you two are the best! Stay safe out there!
WELL DONE, MATE !! VERY NICE VIDEO !! THANKS 4 THE LONG INTROS !!
BE WELL !!
Love the nighttime shots in the rain!
thanks, man! Nothing better than fast trains at night, am I right?
Awesome Video!!!! Very good Content!!👍👍👍
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The horns on the Norfolk Southern trains will haunt me in my sleep!!😊-Zzzzzzz
the important thing is the freight move waiting it's turn for the people-move to hustle through!
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Another step towards getting High Speed rail in the USA ,its not 160 like the New Brunswick/ Trenton section of the Northeast Corridor but again it's a start....
truth! however many steps forward, it is indeed forward
That section isn't 160 yet either. Still 135 for Acela and 125 for everything else.
Got that info from a Amt track supervisor who said it's coming, just a matter of when....
@@geraldgreen5371 Amtrak is most likely going to wait for the new Acelas to inaugurate 160 mph running on that section. The old Acelas are more than capable though...
Attleboro' MA. Acelas roar through at 150mph both ways! That's 220 feet a second. Quite a feature to watch them from the station where there's a breakfast counter. Sometimes I would do a morning pick-me-up of a quick Acela trip South Sta. BOS to Providence Station. The mileposts are on the left and there's a new one every 24 seconds--I timed them.
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a Flying Locomotive ! Damn. You won't see an Amtrak at those speeds anywhere here in So Cal.
90 on the Pac Surfliner around Oceanside
someday!
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Back about 40 years ago, my Dad and I took Amtrak from Los Angeles (Union Station) to San Diego. Around Oceanside and Del Mar out in the country, I asked one of the train guys how fast we were travelling, and they said top speed was 93 mph. It took a long time, 2.5 hours one-way, but we had about 13 stops one way. That took all our time. I wouldn't want to do it from LA to New York, but it was fun for a day.
Like the Tyco HO Amtrak train set my dad revved full throttle across the layout in 1976. :)
with coaches exactly as old as 1976!
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I've ridden the TGV high-speed trains in Europe at about 200mph, and what a thrill they were. That's 300 feet per second! There are no grade crossings anywhere. Automobiles, animals, and pedestrians go over or under the rails. Tracks are welded. No click, click, click. Eight cars permanently linked together. So quiet inside you can whisper to your seat mate.
On the Paris/London route, we transited the Chunnel. Our conductor announced that the English rail system was not yet set up for high-speed rail (this was in 1999), "so we will be reducing our speed to 100mph." !
@phillyslasher I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the majority of European trains, even the regular intercity trains, a step below the high-speed type, run at 120 mph consistently and are very modern in design and are extremely comfortable.
My wife and I went to Germany a few years ago and rode all types of passenger trains throughout the country, including local (100 mph), regional and regular intercity (120 mph) and high-speed intercity types (normally at 200 mph). We once took a high-speed ICE train and actually hit 211 mph!
And I've got another shocker for you! Their freight trains that run during the day operate at 100 mph! Otherwise, at lesser speeds, they must operate at night.
If only we had a similar modernized passenger rail system in place in both Canada and the US, travelers would immediately flock to this form of transportation rather than regularly remain stuck in gridlocked traffic!
I agree with you that European trains stop very frequently, but due to the fact that they are electric, they can decelerate and accelerate far more quickly than diesel-powered trains, thereby still allowing for much shorter travel times.
But I firmly believe that times are changing and that, eventually, modernized passenger rail will be made available to the traveling public in North America!
An example as to how the US is improving its capabilities in passenger rail are the Siemens Charger train sets presently being built in California for the North American market which can run at 125 mph either in diesel and/or electric modes! Several of these train sets have already been sold throughout your country and have also been ordered by the Canadian government for our new upcoming Via Rail high frequency rail project for the Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal-Quebec City corridor encompassing a population of at least 19 million people!
@phillyslasher All isn't rosy in Canada either since our politicians have been delaying the approval of our high frequency rail project for several years even though the benefits far outweigh any possible negative elements following the implementation of this highly anticipated and desired project!
But it's getting to the point where our political leaders won't have any other choice but to give the go-ahead for this project due to ever-increasing gridlock in and around our major cities such as Toronto (area population: 6 million), Ottawa (our capital with a population of over 1 million) or Montreal (area population: over 4 million)!
Although Canada has a population of only 37 plus million, most of it is located just North of the American border along Lake Erie, Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence river.
As such, most of our gridlock occurs along highway #401, which is actually the busiest in North America.
Therefore, effective solutions to help mitigate gridlock must be placed high on the priority list whereby an obvious first step would entail our HFR project.
@phillyslasher There are a few problems with the Go system in having to make stops at every local station using diesel trains that are dreadfully slow when decelerating and accelerating, using worn-out trackage on some of their routes, maximum speeds of much less than 100 mph, and finally, the lack of sufficient trains to satisfy high demand.
When it comes to our intercity passenger rail service, Via Rail, its biggest problems lie in having to run on extremely congested, shared trackage owned by freight companies such as CN, which slows down Via's train speeds, resulting in travel times not that much faster than driving while decreasing reliability to the traveling public.
The track quality on these freight lines is also nowhere close to European standards, thereby causing shaky rides and limiting top speeds to 100 mph rather than 110 mph, which is the capability of some of Via's Genesis locomotives.
However, public support for modernized passenger rail has increased to the point that politicians will ultimately have no other choice but to give in and support our rail services.
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I was your 1k subscriber, keep up the work
Nicely done!
thank you so much! Plan your work, work your plan....occasionally I see it through :-)
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I live in Ann Arbor and sometimes hop on the train to Detroit to visit family and friends! It is a quick trip of about 47 mnutes, a cool way to avoid traffic and a fun way to travel. It would have been nice to see, the stations in Ann Arbor, Desrborn (beautiful station) and Detroit. Tyfs! I enjoyed the video! 🙏🏽💕
Hi Aurelia! Thanks for your feedback here. Please keep supporting passenger rail as you have--the future remains bright!
@@EDOTrains will do! Stay safe and keep up the good work. Be blessed! 🙏🏽💕
Nice. Really enjoyed it.
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This is really cool thanks for staying out there all day to catch every train!!! Railfanning definitley involves a lot of patience!! Lol. I live in NC right by the csx S line in Raleigh and they are going to eventually make it into a 110 mph line for Amtrak’s going to and from Richmond Virginia and Washington DC can’t wait till it’s done!
I spent just shy of a decade at Amtrak and this shoot was on my bucket list throughout. I finally checked that box with authority on my last day on the job :-)!
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My Grandfather and Great Grandfather worked this line out of the roundhouse (now long gone) in Kalamazoo. Great Grandfather was yard superintendent at Kalamazoo. Grandfather started working for MCRR as a machinist in 1916 out of Bay City, then went to Jackson for awhile then on to Kalamazoo from 1940 until 1961 when he retired. Dad would take me down to the roundhouse to watch Gramps work, and I was allowed to climb up into the cabs of the engines in for work and ring the bell. Hurt like hell when they tore that old roundhouse down.
OneLastHitB4IGo great American story. The previous generations who laid the ground work for this country, with their hard work, integrity and dedication would appreciate your comment as I do. I feel your fondness and nostalgic vibe shining through your post. Thank you and kudos to the great men of the railways and stock yards who helped make this country the greatest in the world, which includes your Dad and Grandpa.
Peace.
@@jjcnyc6313 Greatest in the world, eh? Many other countries with longer histories would disagree with that sentiment.
the physical plant and plethora of yards that used to pockmark this line were pretty incredible. Fast-moving Hudsons and later, hotshot piggyback from the east coast, across the Dominion and chop-chop-chop--right into Chicago.
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You did a great video. Bring more. 😃
Great video!!!!
Terrific catches!
Thank you from Buffalo. Godspeed next Sunday.
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That last Amtrak was literally flying illustrated by how quickly it past and got out of sight.
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Ah the daily 3 oaks noon whistle. Gotta love it.
nicely timed yeah? :-)
love your vids them sd 40s are my fav units of all time they just dont get any better they had a sound of there own and power i spent 8 yrs in one clinchfield railroad good old days
Awesome!
hey--YOU the one that's awesome.
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Just Passing Through. I Love Trains. Norfolk Southern Has Building Here In Hampton Roads. The Power Is Awesome They Have. Thanks For Sharing Your Video.
Gotta love it!!
my man
The length of an Amtrak Amfleet car is 85'4" and a Horizon car is 85'. 110-mph translates to 161.333 feet per second. When the cars are passing the power poles at around the 2:45 mark, my stopwatch on my phones ticks off 1.04 to 1.07 seconds (give or take a hundredth of a second) for two cars (a Horizon/Horizon and a Horizon/Amfleet combo). That's pretty doggone close to 110-mph by the stopwatch.
:-D
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Wow so fast
..really enjoyable
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I know this was posted back in 2019, but if there were a few more trains added to the Michigan services' timetables, that would be great for the 110 miles an hour fun indeed. If there was enough coaches and locomotives to run that is to get these trains for options on the 110 MPH zone in Michigan:
Wolverine - 356, 357, 358, 359
Blue Water - 360, 361, 362, 363, 366, 367, 368, 369
Great video! How’s the ridership along this line? It’s nice to see em whippin up the dust only to crawl between Indiana/Illinois border into the city.
Amtrak has the great ideas for the Midwest corridor trains, just the crawling in and out of Chicago really kills the speedy sections.
I mean Chi-Stl ya got 21st, Ashland, Brighton, Corwith, Nerska, McCook, grade level crossings just between Chicago and Joliet (approx 35miles). It really kills the running times or it really can make those trains have a bad day.
ridership popped about 10 years ago when gas prices were >$4 per gallon and was mostly steady thereafter. On-time performance (OTP) issues have hurt the service on and off over the past 5 years, but as I understand it, numbers have started climbing again with the addition of 110 MPH service east of Kalamazoo.
And you're right; this will never meet it's true potential until there's a passenger-only route from Northwest Indiana to Chicago Union Station.
I am a regular-rider on Wolverine, 350, HMI-DER. It's frustrating that there's only 1 train a day at HMI. Covid killed service may 2020 to July 2021. They spent $$$ in 2020 rebuilding the HMI station platform, but us riders have no access to the station house -- it's still closed -- no restrooms or shelter from the weather.
Nice video/ You can see the D212 milepost early in the video. It looks to be in great shape. Are many of the mileposts still in place along this route?
I know of a few, though most are the reflective numbers on a u-channel post, now. The originals that still exist are well kept by Amtrak's engineering dept though!
If only those speeds could be sustained..
I was going to go from North Carolina down to Orlando and I found a train but it took 13 hours to go 542 miles. I really like math so I averaged it out in the average speed is only 40 miles per hour. So there I was I spent $10 less hopped on a Spirit Airlines flight and was there in an hour and 13 minutes
But, you missed the scenery. Many enjoy taking their time and enjoying the ride.
@@lucyterrier7905
That thing was I was in Orlando to see some family. The Experience between North Carolina was not what I was going for.
Trust me, I do not like to fly.
My flight was actually cheaper than the ticket would have been on Amtrak.
Here is yet another thing to think about.
Years ago, I was in Gering Nabraska, to haul a semi load of beans to Milwaukee.
I had 3 days to get it there,, no problem. ..
After a long discussion with the railroad agent, he told me that it would take the train atleast 30 days to make the delivery...
As it was, the place that I was going to had no rail yard...
Trains have a purpose, , but they are not the right tool for every job.
remember--the endpoints make the pretty posters and the advertisements, but the long-distance network is really about serving the communities in-between, for many of whom their Amtrak service is the only commerical transportation available for hundreds of miles!
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Very good.
I don't understand why people are saying we NEED high speed rail, especially transcontinental. Because we don't.
Amtrak's main competitor is driving. Instead of having to drive for hours, or spend many in a cramped bus, you can enjoy the scenery on the train, and be able to walk around and relax. The only problem is that it's slower and expensive.
All Amtrak should do for the long distance routes is get the average speed to above 70mph, and aim for 90-110 on most routes. This will already make it much closer to driving. If Amtrak get's it so it's comparable to driving and taking the bus, it will attract riders. Because if we make a coast-coast high speed rail, it will not be worth it. It will bypass the small towns that rely on Amtrak the most; the ones with just a few thousand, or even a few hundred people. It will still not be comparable to flying, being over 1,000 miles long. It will also be IMMENSLY expensive.
For corridors, such as these, aim for a 125mph corridor, which is faster than a car.
Just make Amtrak just as fast, or faster than cars, at a moderate price. It will attract more people.
125 mph won‘t be enough, trust me people will still drive with cars. It needs High Speed Rail to get people out of there cars because „High Speed“ immediately attracts attention and gives a good public image and also because people will take the train only if it’s considerably faster than the car. I live in Germany and four years ago, the DB (Germany’s national career) opened a high speed line between Berlin and Munich, stopping at major cities like Dresden, Halle, Erfurt, Ingolstadt and Nuremberg. The line has a top speed of 300 km/h, sorry I don’t speak Burger per school shooting ;) Jokes aside: The line completely destroyed the domestic air travel on this route and Lufthansa is now negotiating with DB to run joint operations between major German cities to reduce domestic air travel. Oh, and I don’t have to talk about how much the High Speed Line relieved the Autobahn (Highway), do I?
@@scanida5070 Amtrak's ridership was already steadily increasing before the pandemic, and it was as fast/slower than cars. So if we make it consistently faster than cars, then they should come.
All of you here (and elsewhere) who carp about high-speed rail service in Europe and Japan, let me clarify some things:
1. European railways are almost EXCLUSIVELY GOVERNMENT OWNED; U.S. Railroads, with the exception of Amtrak, are ALL Private, Corporate-Owned businesses.
2. ALL European railway rights-of-way are Government Property, taken under rules of Eminent Domain or similar government fiat. ALL U.S. railroad right-of-way are Private Property, mostly, but not all, owned by the Primary Railroad operating on that right-of-way; ALL other lines must negotiate operating passageway over that trackage, under U.S. Railroad Administration rules (now superseded by FOT Regis) established during either the Spanish-American War or World War I.
3. Most U.S. Trackage could NOT handle the high-speed Eurorail TGV-type trains, nor the Japanese shin-kansen trains. But that's okay, because NEITHER CAN THE REGULAR TRACKAGE in those countries! Again, the Government built seperate trackage for the high-speed trains. That could be done here in the U.S., if people elect the Congress willing to fully fund Amtrak to the level required. Watch your taxes go as high as they are in the EU or Japan.
TANSTAAFL!
Bullshit, JR is private...as you well know...and US train service is a fucking joke.
(Maverick from Top Gun) "I feel the need. The need for speed." 🚄
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I'm a regular-rider/commuter on Wolverine. Amtrak has it's own dedicated rail from New Buffalo eastbound. The rest of the time, they share rail with CN freight. Far too many times, Amtrak has to wait for the freight to clear, making parts of the route agonizingly sloooow. And LATE.
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Amazing! I didn't know that there were runs outside the NEC that hit speeds above 100 mph. I'm impressed!
smoothjazzaxe why are you impressed. I rode the last City of Los Angeles in 1971 and we did 104mph leaving Green River headed to LA.
@@johnnyjames7139 I suppose because much of that track is leased from freight railroads. The only portion Amtrak owns is the NEC. That's where I'm used to speeds above 100 mph. I am a little amazed that there are cross country trains that are actually making those speeds as well
There's also the Keystone Corridor, Philadelphia-Harrisburg.
@@RailRide Quite correct. Who owns those tracks?
@@William_sJazzLoft Amtrak
Wow, old 27 is still around and still on the Wolverine route at 9:15. I got to tour it with the conductor and ride up front for part of the trip as a kid back in the day. It must have been brand new back then.
Really fast trains!
This would be me serving 350-353 and 364-355 as a conductor!
here's hoping that Messrs. Zak or Morris let you know I'd be out there!
I haven't been through Three Oaks since 1966, but remember those tracks running parallel to US 12.
Impresive. I remember when I saw the rirst train comming towards me at that speed. I was excited and a little scared.
Good to see finally what genesis was made for.
in their last days doing this, no less! All Chargers now.
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5:09 353 snuck up on me--read from an out-of-date employee timetable!
At least you weren't standing too close; the vacuum could suck you up.
The only stops between Kalamazoo and Chicago in Michigan are. New Buffalo,Niles and Dowagiac. Only four of the eight stop at the Dowagiac Station. Two eastbound and Two westbound. The Wolverine and Blue Water. Most of the other towns are to small to support a station. Dowagiac station is not busy in the winter months. Although in the summer it’s used often. They keep Dowagiac as a stop because of all the inland lakes. Indian,Diamond and of course the Sister Lakes area. The Chicago residents who own lake homes in this area fought to keep Dowagiac as a stop. If you go to Dowagiac in the summer you will notice the parking lot with many vehicles with Illinois plates
That green and white LAWTON sign @8:00 looks like a remnant from New York Central or Penn Central days.
yes sir PC original!
Cool video. I live right by where the first location is. Miss the old P42s that ran around.
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AMTRAK isnt no joke damn these trains moveeeeeeeee
my favorite is the ssssoo sssoo sssooo sssooo sound it makes as each car passes
@@EDOTrains yes that's when u know that bad boy is moving
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I’m new to your channel and I love your catches! They looked slower than 110 though but maybe my eyes are deceiving me.
Thanks, Josh! Be well
These trains are not going 110 mph ever!
thats how it works on video
I like the night footage. 🌙
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Still hoping one day the old PRR Fort Wayne line will be rebuilt as a high-speed rail corridor. Won't happen any time soon tho, if at all. But it's nice to think about.
The biggest issue right now is the federal gov't surrendering all short-distance route development to the states. Many states develop it well, but occasionally there's an Indiana that refuses to invest in its rail service. The death of the Hoosier State was the death of Chicago-Fort Wayne-Columbus as well :-(.
@@EDOTrains Yes Indiana has a long sad history of non support of rail svc, passenger or freight. And it's not a question of whether the line would generate sufficient return on investment.
That Amtrak Passed that NS train like it was standing still. :)
10:31 is amazing!
is there anything better than a train at-speed in the night?
Trains in Europe and Japan were reaching these speeds routinely in the 1960s. Better late than never mind.
Before them, passenger trains in the United States were routinely travelling over 100mph during the 1920's-1940's.
Have a look at the famous 20th Century Limited. It was well known steam locomotives were quite fast in certain trim.
In my view, one of the issues for trains here is the lack of effective political support. Many of the tracks are owned by the respective RR companies and freight pays better than passenger service, especially since most people enjoy flying. It may change due to some of the newer constraints on airplanes, airports, etc.
got to hope, got to vote, and got to play your part in this--the people is how it will happen!
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Only one train near the beginning was going anywhere close to 110. The rest were doing 79mph at best.
Nope. They all go 110
wow you are smart
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For a smaller town Dowagiac, MI has a really nice classic train station.
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I love big bad ass locomotives!!!!
camera and earth-quaking, no less, Robert.
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Ive seen 7149 and 7146 lurking around the Gainesville GA Yard many many times
This station used to have a direct express to Eastern Canada Toronto region via Port Huron or Detroit
US Customs and Immigration sure screwed that up!
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@@EDOTrains Only the Cascade has the u.s. immigration done in Vancouver, BC🇨🇦. It does not apply to Blue Water Chicago Toronto via Port Huron🇺🇸 Sarnia🇨🇦 Maple Leaf Niagara Falls NY🇺🇸 & ON🇨🇦 34th Street Penn Station to Toronto Union Station and lastly the Adirondack Montreal Gare Central Lacolle🇨🇦 Rouses Point Albany Poughkeepsie Croton Harmon and Yonkers Metro-North New York Penn Station 🇺🇸.
@@EpicThe112 When Grand Trunk ran the trains from Toronto to Chicago via Port Huron, US Customs and Immigration agents boarded the trains in Ontario before they reached Port Huron, so there were hardly any delays. The agents then got off the train when it made its stop in Port Huron. And vice-versa with the Canadian officials boarding the eastbound trains in the United States. This is how it was done in Europe as well. You don't stop a train for inspections. You do that while the train is moving. People just don't have any common sense nowadays.
@EDO Trains When will the Kalamazoo to Dearborn section be 110 mph it’s seems like forever?
that's actually news to me. My understanding was that I was shooting the second-to-last day before they flipped the switch on that. Still nothing?
awesome Doppler effect 5:00
better still at around 7:30 and 10:50 :-)
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The little red lights on the backs of the Amfleets remind me of TIE fighter thrusters
from the space age for sure!
Put it at 1.5x speed and pretend it’s Europe
Europe rail is mostly passenger. U.S. Rail is mostly freight. Lines in GB and Europe are engineered for lighter, shorter trains and faster rail speed. Here, not so much. Heavy freight mostly. And 1-2 mile long trains. (1.6-3.21 km)
@@adamcollins9293 New resolution passed to increase trainlengths to 1 mile, so now we have 125 mph regular passenger trains and longer cargo trains :p
@@PTB_BE Our freight trains nowadays often exceed 3 miles and regardless are built for a much larger loading gauge, so we can haul more in the same train length. Also our trains run a far longer distance, for example we have 16,000 foot doublestack intermodal trains that run 70 mph across 3,000 miles basically nonstop.
We have a select few 125 mph passenger trains now, but 80 years ago most of our passenger trains across the country were doing 120+, pulled by huge 4-8-4 steam locomotives and early E-unit diesels. That’s pretty astonishing, only Germany was anywhere close to that at the time and theirs was far more limited. Over the years, as culture shifted to cars, we seem to have forgotten our high speed past but it absolutely bears mention. The Japanese engineers that designed the first Shinkansen in the early 60s actually came to the US first to learn about the Pennsy’s operation on the Northeast Corridor; and to study the Budd Zephyr trainsets from the 1930s (!) that were far ahead of their time with their invention of single truck articulation, high speed DC traction motor winding, and much much more. The first gen Shinkansen only maxed out at 125mph. By the late 60s, we had Budd Metroliner trains running at 160mph in revenue service, which I’m pretty sure shattered the record in our favor for decades. We were 30 years ahead of the rest of the world until the 70s when we basically stopped trying. Slowly but surely everyone else caught up to and exceeded us, and here we are, but we still have our crown on the freight side.
It’s funny, the line in this video was home to huge, heavy trains powered by steam and diesel at 130+ mph as early as the 1930s and 40s, and then slowly over time the speed limit fell to 79mph like so much of the rest of the country. But we forgot, and so our 110mph increase back in 2012 seemed like a big deal. :/
@@PTB_BE Longer cargo trains my ass. Y’all don’t even have many freight trains anyways, due to the fact y’all have constant PSR.
@@railsofchicagoandbeyond8832 Sorry that we have a reliable freightnetwork that works with a schedule that makes it possible to have freight and passengertrains all the time :(
Train 8 seems to be really hustling down the line, and all on a single track line.
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11:16
Eeeeyeah! How fast can YOU run on wet gravel? : )
can laugh about it now, and...I wasn't ever going to get clipped, but...I could've handled that a little safer for sure (we always can, I guess).
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When was this shot? I thought all the midwest intercity lines were using chargers by now.
April 5, 2019. I thought so too when I went out there! I forget what the reasoning was why they weren't out there.
Can cofirm Pere Marquette was had an SC44 at that time.
EDO Trains A lot of the ITCS equipped P42’s that have been on the Midwest trains before the chargers displaced them have been on the Downeaster lately.
Thought the top speed of the P42's was 103 MPH...The original designation was AMD-103 (Amtrak Diesel, 103 MPH)
What's the hurry with AMTRAC? Get on a few days earlier and slow down and enjoy the scenery.
It seems odd to us in the UK that even high speed lines are just open access to all. Here, the railway authorities wiould be having kittens and if anyone got hurt (even if they broke through a fence) would be facing fines and damages.
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What was used to clock these trains? Some really didn't look to be going 110 mph, but other - especially the last one - eight - do.
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Now THIS is 110! God, imagine stopping distance though, it's gotta be comparable to some freight
You're not wrong! I actually did a search for a refresher on the sort of 'rule of thumb' formula on stopping a train; Minnesota Operation Lifesaver is the king of SEO in this regard: www.minnesotasafetycouncil.org/OL/stop.cfm#:~:text=Trains%20can't%20stop%20quickly,fully%20applies%20the%20emergency%20brake.
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That Norfolk consist on the siding is just begging to run down that blue line. If only they could stretch those legs like Amtrak is allowed to
VERY INTERESTING ARTIFACT @4:50. Has it been tested by NIST for traces of thermite?
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Do you have any fast trains in the USA like the ones in Europe, Japan and China?
There is the Acela Express which runs from Boston to Washington DC. Max speed at least 220 kph.
@@bensmall6548 It's km/h... the Acela max speed is 150 mph (241.35 km/h).
A better question would be: Do we spend the kind of _money_ for fast trains the way Europe, Japan, and China do?
And the answer would be " _OHMYGODWTFBBQ THE SUBSIDIEEEES!!! MAH TAXES!!!! BOOOOOOONDOGGLE REEEEEEEEEE!!!_ "
Short answer is no. The Acela (closest you can get) runs on a curvy track full of slower Amtraks, commuter rail, and freight, unlike in Europe and Asia.
NEC trains do 106 all through Maryland and Delaware. Very densely populated areas.
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2:05 sth-10 doing a test sounded nice ngl
Would be cool to get a cheap radar gun and see how fast they're actually going.
They have to go this fast, to beat the cars on the Interstate going 85 - 95!
This video makes me want to create a street racing survival game. And yes, this game would involve racing a train in a car. Pretty amazing, right?
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The one secene with the ns engines and the siren made me think a huge derailment had happened