Trangia Mystery Hack… No More Center Hot Spot Cooking!! 🤨

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024

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  • @dobrofool
    @dobrofool  Před měsícem +2

    If you have always wrestled with the center hot spotting while cooking on a Trangia 25 or 27 (this video covers a mod I made to the 25)... then you will not want to miss this! Trust me!
    Please Like, Subscribe, and PLEASE comment what you think of this modification/hack! Thanks, and God Bless!

  • @KasperLidegaard
    @KasperLidegaard Před 5 dny +3

    Cool video for USA, almost everyone else uses the metric system

  • @TheHeraldOfChange
    @TheHeraldOfChange Před měsícem +3

    Use some copper, aluminium, or steel strap and make three custom sized hooks specifically for your Diffusion Plate then you can use the Trangia hooks as originally meant. Alternatively, if you're not adverse to customising, drill three holes and install some bolts to hold the diffusion plate in place. If weight is an issue try using aluminium plate instead of steel. As for the non-stick pan protector, there are many air fryer liner and silicone steamer mats options now available. Aliexpress is your friend (or Temu?) for a lot of this grill trivets and liners, stuff, etc.
    OR, you could replace the trangia pots with sandwich bottom saucepans? 🤪

    • @questions6746
      @questions6746 Před 7 dny

      Do you use that with a 25 or a 27? I have not noticed it with my 27, but have not used a 25.

  • @totoblaubar8393
    @totoblaubar8393 Před 4 hodinami

    The main issue of the original trangia pan is the thin material. It's a good idear to use an additional heatspreader. Most easy way, would be to use a steel disc with the same diameter of the pan putting it directly underneath of the pan. Using the pan and the heatspreader in the original position. There is no need for the 2 meshes. The main issue of the original trangia pan is the thin material.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před hodinou

      Thanks for commenting! So my experience has painfully taught me that placing these very thin pans directly on a super hot steel plate warps the bottom of the pans. I actually was able to pick up a small metal reducer usually used on a stove for glass coffee pots. I will be experimenting with this, but I know it will work, as there will now be a nice air gap between the steel plate and the bottom of the pan.
      As far as the mesh is concerned, there is a benefit to this: for example, tonight I made myself some eggs and sausage, and then after I pulled the pan, I dropped two pieces of bread on the mesh. The metal plate down below reduces/removes direct flame spread, and just controlled heat from the gas stove browned up some perfect toast.
      So there’s a great reason to have a mesh! 😉

  • @cobscamping6909
    @cobscamping6909 Před měsícem +4

    I been using the bottom of a loose bottom cake tin on my acahol stove for years.

    • @questions6746
      @questions6746 Před 7 dny

      Is that with a 27 or a 25

    • @cobscamping6909
      @cobscamping6909 Před 7 dny

      @@questions6746 .
      It works with any trangia cook set you just have to measure it and get the cake tin.

  • @krimke881
    @krimke881 Před měsícem +2

    welcome back to the 90's =)

  • @Magoo652
    @Magoo652 Před měsícem +3

    Well done, Heat needs to be diffused. Short of constant lifting pan of & moving around. It's the bane of Trangia users. Thank you for sharing 👍

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před měsícem +1

      You’re very welcome. I hope more users see this and gain this benefit. The heat shield alone is only $2.99 plus a cheap shipping rate through eBay. The hack is so inexpensive, it’s a joke, compared to what Trangia charges for their stuff. Appreciate the comment!

    • @Magoo652
      @Magoo652 Před měsícem

      @dobrofool You would think Trangia would have done something in-house, they put out Stainless steel versions. Then Duossal with the aluminium causes alzheimer scare period. Then they made more durable, lighter UL models. I'm hearing you.👍

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před měsícem +1

      Not to mention the problems with non stick. Scrapes off at the edges, because no silicone protection on the pot grips, and worse yet on the Mini.. the nubbed indentations used to snap the kit together “flake” completely away INSIDE the pan! I have an upcoming video on how to get around THAT too! So if you have one of those, stay tuned! 😎👍

    • @Magoo652
      @Magoo652 Před měsícem

      @dobrofool Yes! I do have T28 Mini, a great little cook set with an extra windscreen. Yes, exactly, as you describe with it's Non-stick too.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před měsícem

      @Magoo652 I have the video session recorded, just need to get it edited down! Thanks for the feedback. Encourages me to jump on the bandwagon and get-r done! 🤨

  • @questions6746
    @questions6746 Před 7 dny

    I have not had the heat ring with my 27. The system is designed for the best heat distribution and efficiency. How high do you you run the spirits. No need to have it on full. Right?

  • @eddyjoon-nl
    @eddyjoon-nl Před 21 dnem

    Instead of the standard alcohol and gas stove I use a Primus OmniliteTi with silencer with the "25". Trangia sells a special adapter to make Optimus and Primus multifuel stoves fit in the Trangia set. That is much better than the original Trangia solutions and spreads the flame much better. Also you will have full benefit of the fuel-energy. I admit, it is not cheap, but being able to use also gasoline and kerosene as fuel you will never be without fuel during a trip. If needed I also use my Trangia set as BBQ with charcoal on alu foil to cover the hole of the base or as a twig stove. Advantage of Trangia is that you can buy all parts separately. A life time lasting kookset. With a large enough round grill grate on the folded pot supports you can increase the distance between the food (meat) and the heat source and also use that same grate as support for your frying pan with the supports unfolded.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 21 dnem

      Hot coals right on the aluminum (ok, tin foil between, but still..) 🤔 I’m guessing you’ve done it enough to recommend it.. I would have thought that much intense heat directly on that thin aluminum would warp and eventually melt through.. 🤔. I experimented with using aluminum as the heat shield before I went to steel, and that was the issue I had…

    • @eddyjoon-nl
      @eddyjoon-nl Před 21 dnem +1

      @@dobrofool Not one layer. Just fold the foil a few times.

  • @chado_outdoors
    @chado_outdoors Před měsícem

    Thanks for this. I'm actually going to buy these for my 25. I can cook like a pro on mine, but the ritni grill always piqued my interest as a grill, but was never able to get one. Grilling some fish on a camp would be perfect!

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před měsícem +1

      Just remember:
      1. The oxygen issue for cooking in a pan. So a grill sitting on “top” may be best. I’m going to see if I can source a flat one which sits on top like my rectangle one, but it needs to fit inside the pan for knock down. I’d have to create a thin outside edge protection for inside the non stick pan tho, not to interfere with closing (easy enough I think..)
      2. The CLEAN UP from grilling: it REALLY makes a mess inside both parts of the wind screen.
      3. **BURN OFF THAT STEEL FIRST!!!
      Let us know how it goes, and any mods you come up with for your own system! I’m so glad this video is exciting others to try this! Enjoy!

    • @chado_outdoors
      @chado_outdoors Před měsícem

      ​@@dobrofoolwhat I was thinking is I could take a cutoff wheel and cut notches directly under the rolled edge around the entire circumference. That would let air in at the top without having any consequence on the flame. And then the grill could still fit inside the upper when packed. As far as the dome of the grill, if used for fish that wouldn't be such an issue, but if it is, there are always trivets like used in an instant pot that one may be able to find the right size in for this purpose.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před měsícem +2

      Yeah. I was thinking similar. Drilling may be 1/2“ or 5/8” inch holes at 12 o’clock, 6 o’clock, 3 o’clock, 9 o’clock positions, just below the rim 🤔
      One thing I realized, after making this video, is that by installing the grill with concave up, for grilling purposes anyway, that would help prevent any rounded foods from rolling off the edges! 😉

  • @erniethecat198
    @erniethecat198 Před 14 dny

    I like to be traditional and not use gas just down to personal choice, I used my trangia for the first time at a motorcycle festival this summer and it worked well I cooked all weekend for between 3 and 4 people, both the flat plate and the grid plate offer improvement please could you list the item numbers so that I can further improve my trangia experience. Nicely presented video.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 13 dny +1

      Go back to the description, and you’ll find a time link for both the grill and the plate. I just edited it because I forgot to put the grill in there. So thanks for your question which got that edited in! The only thing I’m going to say, is that it has a rounded surface, which is a bit of a pain in the butt to work with. You may wish to try and find one that is flat, but just make sure it’s 19 cm in diameter. Otherwise you can get a rectangular or square one like I showed later in the video. That one is part of my bushcraft kit. Those little grills are a dime a dozen on Amazon. Thanks for your comment and compliment! 😎

  • @sg7392
    @sg7392 Před 15 dny

    I use the mesh off of an old open flame toaster to diffuse the flame seems to help. Cheers Steve from Aus.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 15 dny

      Nice! Diffusion is the key, any way it can be accomplished. Thanks for sharing that!

    • @sg7392
      @sg7392 Před 15 dny +2

      Lighter to carry . ​@@dobrofool

    • @questions6746
      @questions6746 Před 7 dny

      What Trangia do you have? 27 or 25?

    • @sg7392
      @sg7392 Před 2 dny

      25 . Just bend the mesh a bit so it stands over the burner​@@questions6746

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 Před měsícem

    meanwhile a lot easier solutions out there then this, years ago when i first started distilling my heater burned the bottom of my thin stainless tank as it was not evenly dissipating heat, got online found a metal fab shop that made circles had one made out of steel that matched my tank and problem solved, so I had others made for camping same concept you use stainless aluminum steel, titainium etc and any thickness so you are not beholden to some proprietary equipment..and you also can use directly over a fire to cook on also..just my own experience

  • @journeymanadventure
    @journeymanadventure Před 13 dny

    The tucker looks good cobber. I carry powdered milk as it's more conveneant than fresh or UHT.🍺

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 13 dny

      Not sure I quite understand the first sentence, bro.. 😂. But the powdered milk thing yeah. I thought about that too!

    • @journeymanadventure
      @journeymanadventure Před 13 dny +1

      @@dobrofool ha ha Aussie slang. Tucker is food and cobber is friend, buddy or similar 🤠

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 13 dny +2

      @@journeymanadventure 😂 Look at that! I just learned some Aussie lingo for my own “bush” journeys up here… 😆 Noice! lol

  • @george12954
    @george12954 Před 13 dny

    Absolutely brilliant and thanks for sharing. Also many thanks for including all the dimensions. I have the 27 series and wondered if a stainless steel or perhaps brass or copper plate would work instead of mild steel. Would appreciate your thoughts before I ordered my metal disc. Again many thanks from Australia 🇦🇺

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 13 dny +1

      Unfortunately, I can’t answer to brass or copper. I did try aluminum, however, it was on the thinner side and it just melted eventually. Again, as I referred to in the video, I copied this concept from the company (I think in the Netherlands). I’m pretty positive they use a steel plate. It weighs more, but I know it’s not gonna melt. As far as dimensions, my dimensions are for a T-25. You would have to figure the measurements on the T-27 and then maybe have to convert down to millimeters like I did. If you go to the same eBay seller that I provided, they have different dimensions to purchase. I love mine. It has changed my whole Trangia cooking experience. Read down in the comments, one fella says that he’s been using a thin deflector from something he had kicking around. Best wishes in your journey on this in the land down under… 😁! Thanks for your comments!

    • @georgemarchesi8506
      @georgemarchesi8506 Před 12 dny

      ⁠Thanks so much for your prompt reply. My plate needs to be 120mm about 4.7 inches in your language. I finally found one in Stainless Steel at 120mm all the others were 100mm then 150mm next size up. BTW Ali express has the grill like yours in various sizes that are flat. Looking forward to its arrival. Thanks again and happy days from the lucky country or as you know it “the land down under”

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 12 dny

      @georgemarchesi8506 Excellent! I’m going to record those dimensions for a future update (for visitors using the 27). Thanx for the tip on the grill. After you receive that and confirm it fits, would you kindly update with that grill diameter? 😁 I’ll add both to my update! Thanks a bunch cobber… 😎😂 (Howz that.. am I fitting in..? 😂)

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 12 dny

      @@georgemarchesi8506 (I only ask because you’re the second Ausie in this thread.. and so I’m learning lucky country lingo… 😂😂)

  • @yulbrowe
    @yulbrowe Před měsícem

    After watching your video, I've been trying to Seach for the round screen you have as grill. Any suggestion? Thank you

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před měsícem

      Go to 1:13 time mark, pause video. If you have an iPhone (not sure if this works with Android, I’m guessing it does..?) simply take a screen shot of the eBay page. Open the pic and you should be able to highlight the text description, copy, and then paste into eBay search. It should pop right up.
      Check the seller name against the pic or the video. You’ll have to use the scroll down box on the sales page to choose a size. It will be 19cm for a Trangia 25. I don’t know the size for the 27.
      Disclaimer: This will be a China direct purchase. Unfortunately it was the only one I liked that I could find for 19cm. So I gave it a shot. Took about a week or so to get it, but no issues. The only thing I didn’t realize up front was the concave / convex design.
      The steel plate (also e-Bay) is at 4:17.

    • @yulbrowe
      @yulbrowe Před měsícem

      @@dobrofool Thank you. I'm not sure how I kept missing that screen shot.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před měsícem

      😎

  • @questions6746
    @questions6746 Před 7 dny

    Too many mods and over thinking it seems. It is a tried and proven 80 year old system with just the original alluminium, and spirit fuel. The flip out stands are there for a purpose. It is efficient without burning it up too high. Keep it half way and let the heat accumulate around the pot, which should not be elevated above its design level.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 7 dny

      No overthinking. Experience is the mother of invention. The main issue addressed is the notorious central hot spotting and over heating. “Half flame” doesn’t cut it. The purpose for the design of the flip out stands are recognized and addressed… they are 1. To accommodate the larger diameter pan 2. Provide oxygen to the flame. But they also set the pan too high above the burner (esp a spirit burner) and therefore even flame spread is non existent. Only the central location of the pan gets blasted from a tall, untamed flame… even when using a simmer ring. Trangia is not as smart as most give credit for.

    • @questions6746
      @questions6746 Před 7 dny

      @@dobrofool Thanks. Would you say it is more obvious or prevalent with the 25 than the 27?

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 7 dny

      @@questions6746 I only have the 25 and the mini. However, I believe consensus would agree the same issue exists with the 27. I began with the basic aluminum set, which scorched eggs something fierce if I wasn’t pulling the pan off the heat on a regular basis. Then I moved to the nonstick. The center of that pan took such a hit, that sausage, steak, etc., now sticks to the center of the pan sometimes.. hence my mission to create a heat deflector above the flame… 😎

  • @Oldsparkey
    @Oldsparkey Před 13 dny

    10;11 mark. You can grill or bake over alcohol burner if you use a food grade alcohol. I use the 163 Diesel ( Grain natural spirit ) from the liquor store. If you are lucky you can get the 190 proof Everclear and use it. Never , Never , Never use any denatured alcohol or others with additives . Only food grade from a liquor store and to be really safe have one burner designated for only that use.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 13 dny

      Wow! This is very interesting because the company I’m copying this idea from, I don’t think they’re even aware of this. On their website, they give a warning about using alcohol fuel, but I don’t recall them offering the information you just provided! Now I gotta go back and look at it. Very interesting. You know, on that note, I wonder about the heat coming from a brass cylinder. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but it’s just another thought. Brass is very soft. There are never ending debates and concerns about cooking food inside aluminum pans, because aluminum can leach into the food. Just wondering about brass deposits maybe coming off the burners and leaching into grilled foods with this set up 🤔 I don’t know. Maybe I shouldn’t go there… 😂. Thanks so much for this input! I hope others find this really helpful. Best!

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 13 dny

      Bingo.. I just looked it up. Their user manual online literally says this: “When grilling with a Sprii burner, you should use the purest possible ethanol as fuel…”
      Yeahhhh. Nooooo… I don’t think so. That is a little scary. Which is why I purposed in my own mind to never use it for that purpose, and I also drew attention to that in the video. Excellent excellent advice coming from you on this! 👍👍

    • @Oldsparkey
      @Oldsparkey Před 12 dny

      @@dobrofool I have not grilled with that set up. I have seen it done , it makes a mess of your burner , yuck. Baking is a different story , works really well. Also when heating a pot of Ramen in the tent I use the food grade alcohol and not the denatured alcohol because of the fumes that would fill the tent. Denatured has a poison in it to keep anyone from drinking it.

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 12 dny

      Yes. The mess is real. The burner, the windshield the whole 9 yards. I have yet to bake on mine, but I’m getting ready to try that! Good thoughts on use of a safer fuel, however, I never do open flames inside my tent. Tarp tent with no ground cover.. I’ve done that a few times in rain situations. Good stuff!

    • @dobrofool
      @dobrofool  Před 3 dny

      Heads up! I just uploaded a follow up video on this (Part II) covering my experience trying a spirit burner with the steel plate. I did not use it for grilling.. but… I was sure to give a big shout out to @Oldsparkey in the video AND in the Description for your invaluable and critical input on this! I also did some research on neutral grain spirits, and added a link in the Description to a web site covering just about everything pertinent to the subject matter! And all this.. because of your important comments. So once again, Thanks Bro!
      czcams.com/video/LdI-ZJ857Zs/video.htmlsi=KYHbvxnhTyi2cAl4
      Interestingly I also experienced another huge issue to health (if grilling).. totally not expected and revealed in the video… 😬
      Now. If only my channel had more traction, the word would get out to more folks… 🙄