What’s wrong with lockdown drills for school shootings?

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  • čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
  • To teach students how to protect themselves from an active shooter most American schools run lockdown drills - but could they do more harm than good?
    00:00 - What are lockdown drills?
    00:43 - When did lockdowns become widespread?
    01:25 - What are the national guidelines?
    01:47 - The impact on children
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Komentáře • 100

  • @caloricphlogistonandthelum4008
    @caloricphlogistonandthelum4008 Před 5 měsíci +35

    What’s wrong with lockdown drills.... How about they're not tackling the root of the problem?

    • @jvm-tv
      @jvm-tv Před 5 měsíci

      Freedom is the roots

    • @prancer1803
      @prancer1803 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@J.C.1966the issue is not firearms. The issue is mental health and in many cases violent crime.

    • @waxdood
      @waxdood Před 4 měsíci +1

      no, its not.

    • @DiamondTheObbyist
      @DiamondTheObbyist Před 3 měsíci

      The gun isn’t the bad thing, the mind is.

    • @ourfamilychannel9309
      @ourfamilychannel9309 Před měsícem

      As someone who lives in a country where we don't have guns, I'm glad our children don't have to be traumatised so that people can 'protect'tl themselves. I admire your cannabis laws but I'm concerned by your gun culture

  • @thehangmansdaughter1120
    @thehangmansdaughter1120 Před 5 měsíci +20

    This is horrific. And completely bizarre. Living in NZ I have never had to worry about my kids being shot at school. I can't imagine how terrifying the whole thing must be for children, teachers and parents.

    • @victortesla4198
      @victortesla4198 Před 5 měsíci

      Christchurch shooting???

    • @AveryWeinstein
      @AveryWeinstein Před 5 měsíci

      I literally had an escape plan in my head at all times. I didn’t want to be a sitting duck if something were to happen. I thankfully graduated from high school in 2016 without any incidents happening at my school. It was a bit scary during the drills because the administrators would come and bang on the doors to make it more realistic. We knew it was a drill, but it was still unsettling.

    • @roblawrence3795
      @roblawrence3795 Před 5 měsíci +1

      But there was that New Zealand shooter a few years back. It could happen anywhere.

    • @eveninglightphotography9969
      @eveninglightphotography9969 Před 2 měsíci

      @@roblawrence3795yup. The one that could’ve been stopped by an ordinary armed citizen but they were scared of getting in trouble.

  • @greeneileen
    @greeneileen Před 5 měsíci +20

    The Barcelona school my children attended did a drill without notice to parents that absolutely traumatized my then kindergartener. Then they complained to me that for weeks afterward he was trying to climb the fences that gate in the playground - because they'd made him feel uncertain and unsafe - he was trying to be prepared to escape. Spain doesn't even have America's gun problem.

  • @Arulane
    @Arulane Před 5 měsíci +46

    Other than making our kids live in a war zone rather than get serious about confronting our gun problem?

  • @vladrazym9955
    @vladrazym9955 Před 5 měsíci +50

    What a madness!
    One of the richest countries in the world needs to make drills against school shootings 😢

    • @dprcontracting6299
      @dprcontracting6299 Před 5 měsíci +3

      So glad I don't live there

    • @snowflakemelter7171
      @snowflakemelter7171 Před 5 měsíci +2

      What has money got to do with it?

    • @vladrazym9955
      @vladrazym9955 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@snowflakemelter7171 in most of the cases in rich developed countries there are no such things as massive shootings, as people are educated enough not to go into it

    • @Physics_IsaacHan
      @Physics_IsaacHan Před 5 měsíci +1

      What is the relationship between being rich and having some people in the country who kills others unjustified?

    • @vladrazym9955
      @vladrazym9955 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Physics_IsaacHan just read my answer above - in rich countries there are no such people, because they are developed countries with educated people

  • @rohitmishra670
    @rohitmishra670 Před 5 měsíci +10

    In Asia they do earthquake and fire drill. America has unique set of problem's

    • @9sheri9
      @9sheri9 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @OP We also do weather related & fire drills here in the US as well. 🤷‍♀️

  • @accoomes20
    @accoomes20 Před 5 měsíci +9

    My parents kept a newspaper photo of me as a kid crying hysterically after participating in a fire evacuation simulation at the state fair and I'm now a well adjusted adult....mostly.

  • @finnbarrett3845
    @finnbarrett3845 Před 5 měsíci +13

    There was a particularly bad accident that nearly resulted in a death at my old school a while ago. This happened shortly after the shooting where police waited for hours to storm the building, so the 7/11 gets robbed for the 3rd time that year and by proxy the school goes on lockdown and sends a VERY vague email to both parents and teachers. This lead to a parent armed with a gun trying to break into the school, I still remember being crowded in the locker room, watching as students cry and call their parents and the teachers trying to do their best to maintain order. Due to the noticeable fear the teachers were displaying student became louder, which only served to increase fear once the teachers couldn’t keep the kids quiet. I just sort of zoned out and though to myself well I guess this may be where I die. Somehow the gunman was peacefully apprehended and the police didn’t shoot on sight, he ended up doing community service and the school just pretended it never happened

  • @9sheri9
    @9sheri9 Před 5 měsíci +7

    The purpose of a routine drill is so that it becomes 2nd nature in the event of emergency. If there are schools that are simulating realistic events of this nature, this would be a problem. A realistic event simulation with children involved is a horrible idea & counterproductive.
    Generally speaking - When one knows what to do in the event of emergency, they are less inclined to panic & shut down during an event as well as remain abnormally fearful of a future event that may or may not happen. Knowing what to do is empowering & life saving.

  • @alexh2065
    @alexh2065 Před 5 měsíci +4

    With the US thanksgiving approaching I'll just say how thankful I am to not be living in such an insane country.

  • @RBuckminsterFuller
    @RBuckminsterFuller Před 5 měsíci +3

    Symptom of a sick society.

    • @Yahweh312
      @Yahweh312 Před 5 měsíci

      Tic toc synagogue of satan money power tic toc

  • @griffina5192
    @griffina5192 Před 5 měsíci +2

    In a real lockdown no one is calmly sitting in the corner one of the most scared times I've ever been was when we had a lockdown drill in elementary except they didn't say it was a lockdown until it was over if they say before hand no one takes it seriously say afterwards everyone's traumatised but again they're pointless in a real event no one is grouping up in the corner

  • @shrekchrist2857
    @shrekchrist2857 Před 3 měsíci

    Our teacher told us if the shooter is reported in an area away from ours that we should dash out the exit and to the generator shack in the woods.

  • @matthew-jy5jp
    @matthew-jy5jp Před 5 měsíci +6

    They did the same thing in the cold war times for air raids. But they told the kids they would survive under their wooden desks from an atomic bomb remember. Nothing that we are going through today is original we went through it in some other form before. Kids were terrified in school during the cold wars. And it looks like we plan to keep that tradition

    • @MrLunarlander
      @MrLunarlander Před 5 měsíci +1

      You're right that nothing is original; in other countries arguably at even higher risk of nuclear attack than the US during the Cold War, we didn't do performative "duck & cover" drills in schools. There's something very US-specific about this kind of drill in schools.

  • @d1427
    @d1427 Před 5 měsíci +3

    what ca be wrong with such drills for kids in a culture of violence? Perhaps change the culture through education?!

  • @enchantedsiyoon
    @enchantedsiyoon Před 5 měsíci +4

    The students at my school don't even actually do the drills anymore because we've had so many fake ones.. the way some schools do them is terrifying.

  • @dann6888
    @dann6888 Před 5 měsíci +1

    We go on soft lockdowns frequently when the local bear shows up.

  • @tcbe2k
    @tcbe2k Před 5 měsíci

    Last Friday at my school, we had a lockdown drill. There were 2 people laughing, so what does my teacher do? Give the entire class a detention, of course!
    We get to serve it next Monday

  • @Physics_IsaacHan
    @Physics_IsaacHan Před 5 měsíci +3

    What came to my mind is the following;
    Analogously, war can happen. If you put every resource into preemptively preparing for war, you will crush it when the war actually happens, but you 'waste' so much utility by responding inadequately. On the other hand, if you are not prepared for war at all, the outcome would be atrocious when it actually happens. On that note, let's analyze what was introduced.
    1. How much utility do you gain from the drill? It should depend on the probability of happening and the probability of getting physically inflicted given the incident actually happened.
    2. What is the cost? Some are psychological, fiscal, and even political. I suspect kids' political alignment can be influenced by telling how often about gun violence. If you tell gun violence 24/7, it would be different from saying no outside news at all.
    3. I feel the frequency of the lockdown drills is more influenced by the state's political alignment rather than the actual utility of the drill.,, But passing a bill limiting the global amounts of drills seriously undermines the complexity of issues.

  • @scottmarquardt3575
    @scottmarquardt3575 Před 5 měsíci +1

    They should start playing my favorite rap song on the radio too- duck and cover

  • @Alwyn_Nito
    @Alwyn_Nito Před 5 měsíci

    I hardly dream but when I do, it's weird

  • @containedhurricane
    @containedhurricane Před 5 měsíci

    No free bulletproof vests and metal detectors at schools yet

    • @erez2111
      @erez2111 Před 5 měsíci +1

      We had a threat and brought in metal detectors on the first day of school during my second year of high school.

  • @ngyb
    @ngyb Před 2 měsíci

    I would argue that students who plan to commit such atrocity might familiarise themselves with the lock down procedures and find ways to exploit it especially if a student at the school and also bunching the students together seems more of hinderince. I understand the doors are locked and room secure and im no expert this is just my opinion.

  • @Khaled_Fadl
    @Khaled_Fadl Před 5 měsíci +5

    I'm in love with the presenter's voice

    • @liebuster9308
      @liebuster9308 Před 5 měsíci

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  • @justsayin5609
    @justsayin5609 Před 5 měsíci

    Bomb drills in the '50's, fire drills ongoing since then. What's the issue? Knowledge is power. Maybe those complaining of traumatized children need to be raising more resilient children instead of coddling them. This unfortunately is a fact of life in America. Count my blessings I don't live there daily, despite living 10 minutes away.

  • @alexandrinobruno
    @alexandrinobruno Před 5 měsíci

    Pensa numa espécie que deu errado..

  • @alexcampbell6745
    @alexcampbell6745 Před 5 měsíci

    To cancel your subscription, The Economist forces you to chat with an agent or call their toll-free line. Then they will ask you multiple times to try various offers for ten minutes before FINALLY canceling your subscription. I will never subscribe to The Economist again!

  • @waleedkhalid7486
    @waleedkhalid7486 Před 4 měsíci

    My question is whether or not the techniques actually work. Everyone knows them. The people who commit the crimes have often been a part of those drills themselves and know the procedures. What is to stop a gunman from shooting the lock of the door and entering a room they know has people inside? People who are all usually huddled into a corner with no way out? It’s insane that our best defense is such a maneuver instead of legislation and cultural reform.

  • @silentai3826
    @silentai3826 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Why not finish the video... Was I baited to just watch an intro for a paid article?

  • @ambika7793
    @ambika7793 Před 5 měsíci

    Horrible lockdown ...

  • @tylerdurden4006
    @tylerdurden4006 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think it might be the shooting part, just maybe...

  • @MrFilip121
    @MrFilip121 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The land of the free and the home of the brave

  • @serra4401
    @serra4401 Před 5 měsíci

    "Spain is losing its democracy at the hands of a narcissistic and amoral politician. Please help us before it's too late."

  • @erez2111
    @erez2111 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I spend my entire k-12 school with these drills. I just got used to them they were just like a fire drill for me. It was not just lock down but really hide, run, fight.

  • @SolveigaLidaka
    @SolveigaLidaka Před 5 měsíci +2

    Children have to think about learning and the future in peace. Not about guns, what brings money for richest people.

  • @jvm-tv
    @jvm-tv Před 5 měsíci

    What's wrong with them? They are called freedom drills!!

  • @theahalme
    @theahalme Před 5 měsíci

    I hope kids in other countries already do an empowered child does not have to endure more mental emotional stress if they know what to do giving them confidence and competence It may save theirs or someone else's children 🌼🤍🕊️🕯️✝️💜🙏🕯️

  • @XOPOIIIO
    @XOPOIIIO Před 5 měsíci +1

    So now switching lights off can cause children trauma? It's really pathetic how weak and unready for life you're making your kids, fearing even slightest stress for them. How they suppose to grow up if you preventing any troubles altogether? This overcaring situation in developed countries really should stop, outside of creating weak people it's also discouraging people from having kids in the first place, because they think there's too much responsibility.

  • @lastChang
    @lastChang Před 5 měsíci +1

    In China 🇨🇳, violent crimes are usually committed by the state, not individuals. Victims of violence are by the thousands.
    - Examples are: Tibetans in Tibet, Uyghurs in Xinjiang, and Tiananmen Square.

  • @samuelbcn
    @samuelbcn Před 5 měsíci

    They are not students, they are pupils

    • @oldpossum57
      @oldpossum57 Před 5 měsíci +2

      In many North American dialects, including mine, the word pupil is less often used than students. And we teachers (and administrators, when they aren’t being watched) call them kids.

    • @justsayin5609
      @justsayin5609 Před 5 měsíci

      Potayto, potahto. Stick to the point or go home.

  • @franko1642
    @franko1642 Před 5 měsíci

    whats wrong?? amazing how they let hppen school shootings

  • @johnmarstonlives
    @johnmarstonlives Před 5 měsíci

    Like attracts like

  • @dennisatkins9666
    @dennisatkins9666 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Some. Americans TALK ABOUT SUPERIOR DISCIPLINE, others talk about human rights

  • @importantname
    @importantname Před 5 měsíci +2

    A lock down drill is for prisoners; you criminals are lockdowned because you are being punished. And is training a victim mentality - you are going to be killed in this school. Lockdowns also put many targets, prey into one small space, making it easy for the predator, as they know the lockdown will coral their victims.

  • @phannahang5068
    @phannahang5068 Před měsícem

    100th comment

  • @oldpossum57
    @oldpossum57 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The trauma of lockdown procedure drills is not isolated. Parents and kids in USA live with knowledge that, apparently, more kids die in shootings than by disease or accidents. The Americans have a gun culture, much of it irrational, that they cannot dispel.

    • @codyeby
      @codyeby Před 5 měsíci

      That’s blatantly false. FBI data shows car accidents are WAY higher than gun violence. Most gun related deaths of children are parent or gang related.

  • @MOBMJ
    @MOBMJ Před 5 měsíci

    or we can just ban assault rifles, just an idea.

  • @SolaceEasy
    @SolaceEasy Před 5 měsíci

    Then go home to Violence Video!

  • @user60521123
    @user60521123 Před 5 měsíci

    The kids shouldn’t know what the drill is for. The teachers could turn the drills into a game. Not knowing the purpose of the drill doesn’t have to change its effectiveness.

  • @Iamthatiis
    @Iamthatiis Před 2 měsíci

    This is silly. Stop being so sensitive, and know that it’s true, not preparing is not caring.

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