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That was one of the coolest videos I've ever seen I've been wondering how to use those tools now you just added one more by using the one with your fingers I forget what you called it one fantastic job I appreciate everything you showed I'll be looking forward to your next video thank you very much
Thanks so much, Cory! I've been making videos for nearly a decade, so you have a lot of catching up to do! HA!! Here's a link to my website, and you'll find many of the "greatest hits" there. Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You're welcome, Ryan, and I'm really happy to help! Please consider sharing this video with some friends so they can learn the right techniques, too. Happy New Year! Tim
You're welcome, William, I appreciate the kind words! For those wondering, the second whip finisher is called a Thompson Whip Finish tool. Looking for a whip finisher? Try these! Materelli style by Hareline: amzn.to/3eteOTq Thompson-style: amzn.to/2RJdX7i Umpqua half hitch tool: amzn.to/2xAPwSz Dr. Slick half hitch tools: amzn.to/34Htd9W View my Amazon storefront here: www.amazon.com/shop/timcammisa Thanks again and look forward to hearing from you in more videos! Tim
just getting back into tying after 40ish yr break. have nerve damage in my hands and struggling with the whipping, tried the pen trick. perfect repeated few times just to check wasn't fluke nope works great. thank you so much was getting to point of giving up.
You're welcome, and more importantly, welcome back to tying! If you ever need any tips, advice, or have a question, shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks for taking a moment to comment! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Good video. Should do more on marrying wings , old school wets and drys, streamers and salmon flies. I recently have been teaching myself to tie origami wings. At first they were difficult but after you learn to select the right feather, it makes all the difference. These wings seem to look great on emerger flys. I haven’t tried them on wet flys yet. They work nice on many dry flys too.
You're an excellent teacher, very clear explanations on the how and why, even for a knot challenged halfwit like me. Super helpful video, thanks for taking the time to do this!
My pleasure! I was thinking of buying a tying kit(vice, finishing tool, etc), but do you have any pointers as to who makes decent quality ones as opposed to cheap Made in China versions? I was even thinking of trying eBay for a used vintage set to save a little and get good quality, they don't make 'em like they used to, haha, but wasn't sure what to look for. Edit: And I just checked out your website, priceless resource. Thanks!!
To be honest, I typically will not recommend those tying kits, especially if you plan on staying in fly tying. The overall quality is typically low and many of the included tools will not work for an extended period of time. With that said, if you do find a decent one, let me know, and I can't blame you for going that route for cost purposes alone. I have additional recommendations for beginners here (www.troutandfeather.com/fly-tying-videos/#/beginnerrecommendations/), which you may have already investigated! Good luck, and keep me updated with everything. Tim
You got it Deb! I also have been utilizing more UV resins and super glue, WAY more so than in the past. Do you find yourself doing that, too? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I do find myself using more glue and Resin but more importantly I've really tried to concentrate on my thread tension as well as using more half hitches to secure materials and thank you for that advice Tim, it's been very helpful as some flies I really don't like to use any glue on. Cheers.
When I first started tying I didn't have the advantage of CZcams. I'm sure this will be very helpful for lots of people (hence the view count). It's a great explanation of why and how.
Thank you for the video. I hand whip finish my flies. I was surprised that what you showed looked different from what I do, so I looked for other You Tube videos demonstrating the hand whip finish. The first one shown in the search results was of Tim Flagler showing the hand whip finish. That one resonated with me and appeared to match what I do, though I'm sure that the thread doesn't notice a difference. The second whip finishing tool is what I know as the Thompson type. I have just been watching several of your videos and I consider them to be outstanding.
You're welcome, Doug, and I appreciate the comments and kind words. I look forward to hearing more from you on my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I have a fly tool kit I got at Cabela's and it has several half hitch tools which work like the pen you showed. They have several different sized holes in them for, I assume, different sized hook eyes. My bodkin even has a hole in the end. Keep the good stuff coming Tim.
Most of the bodkins I have are tapered and have a hollowed out cavity on the end to do the "Ball Point Pen" method of whip finishing. Use a Materelli tool myself
I have seen so many videos on finishing a fly and I have the second whip finisher you showed, none of the videos have used that one so I couldn't figure out how to use mine. I am so happy you included that one on this video I finally know how to use it now! Awesome video thank you!
I just saw this video and wanted to comment on the last method. Back in the Dark Ages I use to use a ball point pen refill. They were made of metal back then and they were NOT tapered so they were easier to use. When I started making saltwater flies I went to Home Depot and bought a short piece of copper tubing. The smallest I could find and cut it with a plumbers tool. In that way the end of the copper tube was curved inward with no sharp edges. If you can't find a very old ball point pen, try Home Depot
I have 2 of the whip finishers with the tight wind. I made my first whip finisher from a wire dry cleaners hanger tying bass deer hair flies. great video!!!!
Thanks for those kind words; I'm glad you enjoyed that night bc it was a lot of fun from my end! To start off, a great direction would be with brown and black stoneflies. Next, I would concentrate on the green caddis, tan caddis, light cahill, sulfur, and a few midges. Checking out general information on mayflies and caddisflies would be extremely beneficial, as well. Good luck!
Inside of the box that my D. H. Thompson Model "ULTRA" Fly-Tyer's Vise is Thompson paperwork that lists all the Thompson tools and that second tool is listed in there as their Standard Model Whip Finisher, the original Thompson Figure Four Whip Finisher. Thompson lists two finishers, that one and the R/L Model designed by Fred W Watson which was claimed to be easier to use because it didn't have the double loop on the end.
I'm glad I can help, Andy, and I'm grateful to those who showed me the techniques originally. I appreciate you taking a moment to comment, and hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. Tim
You are a great teacher thanks , now I can also whip finish a fly , battled with that whip finishing tool didn’t know how to use it you’re video clip helped a lot 👍👍👍
Excellent video, I'm going to start fly fishing and I'm fascinated about leaning to tie my own fly's. Your video has answered a lot of questions I had about tying off. Many thanks.
Thanks for the kind words, Brady, and good luck in both fly fishing and fly tying. If you have any questions, be sure to reach out to me, or you can always check the "Beginners" section of my website: www.troutandfeather.com/fly-tying-videos/#/beginnerrecommendations/ Thanks again! Tim
Thanks for the kind words, alan hunter ; I'm glad to know that as a beginner, you're sticking with it. Good luck, and let me know if you have any questions regarding fly tying. TC
@@TimCammisa Same here - started long ago and had no access to whip finishing tool tutorial so did by hand and works great, but Materelli tool can help in tight situations, not expensive. Just keep tension on that thread no matter what method. Thanks Tim - great CZcams channel !!!
Thanks so much for making this, just started fly tying and had problems learning whip to finish my flies, your video solved this. Also great tip about the putting the half hitch first too.
hunt4fish Thanks for taking the time to comment, and I rarely use the whip finisher except in very specific circumstances. Thanks again for the kind words. TC
Thanks for the kind words, Bryan, and I'm glad you found the video useful. I appreciate you taking a moment to comment and hope you enjoy some of my other fly tying tutorials. Tim
My Dr. Slick bodkin has a hole in the opposite end. Kind of like the pen method, I use it to precisely position the location of the1st half-hitch without releasing the tension but i add an extra twist to the thread. This bodkin also allows me to push the hackle back. I have the 1st whip finisher & hated using it when a hackle was in play. I used to catch a few feather & pull them into the hook eye. Using the bodkin/pen method allows me to push the hackle back then seat the whip knot. Perfect finish to the fly.
David Hunt Thanks, David; I appreciate your kind words. To further this video, I am currently making another talking about head cements to use on flies, and it should be out later this week. Thanks again! TC
Awesome, Billy, and I'm happy to have helped. I look forward to hearing more from you on some of my other videos. Here are some beginner videos through my website: www.troutandfeather.com/fly-tying-videos#/beginnerrecommendations . If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out, and good luck tying! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You're welcome, Anthony; thanks for the feedback regarding finishing techniques. I'm happy to hear that you just started tying, and be sure to let me know if you need any help with additional procedures. TC
Awesome, Bill, and definitely consider getting into fly tying. It's a lot of fun and the best part is catching a fish on a pattern you tied (and even created!). If you ever have any questions, shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Hope you're an amateur dresser of trout and salmon hooks by now. If not and still undecided, I would recommend avoiding starter kits. Simply because they are often inadequate and end up in a drawer, at the same time putting you off a pastime and maybe even career in an awesome sport essential. Some of the best fly patterns are out there because someone tried a new hobby. Check Ebay for some great job lot auction lots in tying fly's material as an alternative.
Adding half hitches throughout the tying process was an old school trick.... Not just at the end. At each step, you add a half-hitch. The tail is tied in? Half hitch Finished dubbing? Half hitch And so on. Coupled with judicious applications of cement along the way, flies were made very durable in this manner. Also, commercial tyers often used a "dip" made from white wax (paraffin) and kerosene at the end, on dry flies. Once dryb the wax-kerosene duo helped the fly float, added strength and held the fly together, both in transit and while sitting in the bins of a shop. It also makes the colors of the fly "pop," enhancing its appearance. Arcane methods few know of, today.
Thanks for commenting and adding on to the discussion, and you are correct about adding durability. I used to place more half-hitches in my patterns, but now do so on an as-needed basis. That wax-kerosene is something I've used, though I am unsure of the recipe. Have you ever made it yourself? If so, shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
You're welcome, Kevin, and thanks for the kind words. Feel free to shoot me an email with additional questions, or even just to signup for my email newsletter: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I went to one of your fly tying demonstrations that you and Don as well as a few other guys had on Monday. You guys really inspired me to get started in the sport of fly fishing. I was wondering what types of insects trout in our area feed on? I want to look up some information on these insects and learn how to tie them.
I use the pen treak for years . And using my fingers too. I'm not that great using the tools But I have a better Idea using them Now. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Tim...I'm testing my hand skill on the Half Hitch and the Whip Finish...I've got the hang of the half hitch...The Hand Whip finish is going to take more practice before can do it naturally. (boy did I unravel a lot of material)... I'm sitting at my tying desk trying to imitate the video you posted on " Bird of Prey Caddis" I am using a size 10 Tiemco scud hook....not easy for my clumsy hands...I've made three and their all slightly different...I'll get there and make them consistent....Thanks again for the instructional video...Happy new year in 2 hours on the west coast!!
+CWO4D I'm glad you're practicing, Denver; the hand whip finish is my favorite, by far! I recommend practicing the knot on a bare hook over and over until you get more comfortable with it. Thread is cheap! You picked a great fly to tie, and it sounds like you know consistency is the name of the game. Keep it up, and let me know if you need anything. Tim
hey tim, super video. i'm an avid fisherman. i've always wanted to tie my own flies. i have a painting business and one day last week im at a customers house and i'm doing a little side apartment to his place. his son past away and had all this fly tying stuff. i asked for it and he said i was hoping someone found some use for it. i got home and it was chock full of everything i tell you!! now im watching this video and im trying very hard to do this wick finish that i cant get. a million times i keep repeating the step here. the hand tie i get. this tool is killing me! the hook end and the loop end of the tool. i cant keep the loop end from letting the line from wrapping around with the hook end. im gonna keep trying. im subscribed, so i am glued to watching you. thanks
Ernie Walker Thanks, Ernie, and I'm glad you got into fly tying. It's a great hobby, and I'm happy to help. You may also want to check out my Beginner's Page on my website, "Trout and Feather." On there, I give a lot of tips for those new to the sport, and some of the best videos for those new to fly tying. Good luck, and be sure to let me know if you have any questions. Tim
I use an old dissection pin with the 5mm round handle, and that is my half-hitch "tool". I had to hollow out the butt end though so the knot would go over the hook end. Also, it doubles as a dubbing needle. :)
Whip finishers ? In early 1990 I began fly tying, I own nearly half a dozen of them in many types/brands. I started tying simple beginners flies, lather difficult types, in top of ladder classic salmon flies (Evening star), but never need only one. For what ? Everyone has fingers or ballpoint-pens. Simple, quick and easy. If somebody want my whip finishers, he can have them all!
You're welcome, and glad to help! Feel free to check out some of my other videos, and here's a page on my website with beginner recommendations: www.troutandfeather.com/fly-tying-videos/#/beginnerrecommendations/ Tim
I have that 2nd whip finisher. Found it at Dick's sporting goods. It was labeled as Indian whip finisher , large. I see that others have different names for it. I also prefer the first Style you showed. Thanks for the videos.
Mine came with a DH Thompson vise and the DH Thompson paperwork lists it as their Standard Finisher the Figure Four Model. The finisher was in it's own plastic wrapper which included directions and that paperwork stated Sunrise India as the Manufacturer.
Not sure if anyone answered, I didn’t read all comments... older video (great one though). 2nd tool I believe is commonly called the Thompson whip finish tool.
You're welcome, Martin, and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Feel free to check my website: www.troutandfeather.com Thanks again! Tim
I just recently bought a White River fly tying kit I have a question what type of wax do you need to use for your thread. An what gauge is your copper and silver wire
I highly recommend you read Al & Gretchen Beatty's "Not all whip finishes are created equal" segment on page 50 of the Winter 2008 Fly Tyer to see why the direction in which you apply the whip finish has consequences and moving toward the eye is better than moving away from the eye.
Thanks for the comment, Carl; I'll have to check that out. It sounds like moving forward is a better procedure, thus I am interested in their thoughts. TC
great examples! I've been using the hand method. I have the same tool you call the whip finishing tool, and have never gotten it to work properly. I think it's because I'm left handed and it appears that the tool is meant for righties. I wonder if the Materelli would work for me?
Thanks for the kind words and comments, Adam, and if the hand method works, why change it? It's the only method I've used for over 25 years of tying. The tools would work for you (reversed), though I can't tell you the last time I used one. Thanks again and good luck! Tim
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Your a great teacher. You made the whip finish more simpler & quicker.
Thanks a lot.
Best video on CZcams for whip finishing hands down thank you so much for all you do very very helpful keep up the great work.
Thanks so much, Jason, it's appreciated! Shoot me an email and I'll add you to my fly fishing and tying newsletters: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks! Tim
Great info, I got a kit for tying and i got the two whip finishers and now i know how to use both , THanks , Like,Like Like !!!
You're welcome, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Shoot me an email with any tying questions: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks again! Tim
That was one of the coolest videos I've ever seen I've been wondering how to use those tools now you just added one more by using the one with your fingers I forget what you called it one fantastic job I appreciate everything you showed I'll be looking forward to your next video thank you very much
Thanks so much, Cory! I've been making videos for nearly a decade, so you have a lot of catching up to do! HA!! Here's a link to my website, and you'll find many of the "greatest hits" there. Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Great video, even us old fly tiers need a review every once in a while
Thanks so much for the kind words, Larry! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Very clear instructions on how to use the second whip finisher. Thx much from South Africa 🇿🇦
You're welcome, Ryan, and I'm really happy to help! Please consider sharing this video with some friends so they can learn the right techniques, too. Happy New Year! Tim
This is the best finishing video I have seen! Thank you, I look forward to more learning adventures with you
You're welcome, William, I appreciate the kind words! For those wondering, the second whip finisher is called a Thompson Whip Finish tool. Looking for a whip finisher? Try these!
Materelli style by Hareline: amzn.to/3eteOTq
Thompson-style: amzn.to/2RJdX7i
Umpqua half hitch tool: amzn.to/2xAPwSz
Dr. Slick half hitch tools: amzn.to/34Htd9W
View my Amazon storefront here: www.amazon.com/shop/timcammisa
Thanks again and look forward to hearing from you in more videos! Tim
Your video was the easiest for tying thanks I have it now
Brilliant instruction as always in your videos. I'm tying flies for 50 years, and you can teach an old dog new ricks !!!
I have a feeling you'd be able to teach me a few tricks, too! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
just getting back into tying after 40ish yr break.
have nerve damage in my hands and struggling with the whipping, tried the pen trick. perfect repeated few times just to check wasn't fluke nope works great.
thank you so much was getting to point of giving up.
So glad you didn't give up, and welcome back to fly tying! If you have other questions, feel free to shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks! Tim
Best whip finishing demo I’ve seen. Thanks
You're welcome, Dana, I appreciate the kind words! Hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
This will change my alot for me ty
Thank you Started tying flies again after many years. You are a very good instructor, corrected my basic mistakes. Thanks again
You're welcome, and more importantly, welcome back to tying! If you ever need any tips, advice, or have a question, shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks for taking a moment to comment! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Good video. Should do more on marrying wings , old school wets and drys, streamers and salmon flies. I recently have been teaching myself to tie origami wings. At first they were difficult but after you learn to select the right feather, it makes all the difference. These wings seem to look great on emerger flys. I haven’t tried them on wet flys yet. They work nice on many dry flys too.
You're an excellent teacher, very clear explanations on the how and why, even for a knot challenged halfwit like me. Super helpful video, thanks for taking the time to do this!
Thanks for the kind words, Scott, and I look forward to hearing more from you on some of my other videos. Good luck! Tim
My pleasure! I was thinking of buying a tying kit(vice, finishing tool, etc), but do you have any pointers as to who makes decent quality ones as opposed to cheap Made in China versions? I was even thinking of trying eBay for a used vintage set to save a little and get good quality, they don't make 'em like they used to, haha, but wasn't sure what to look for. Edit: And I just checked out your website, priceless resource. Thanks!!
To be honest, I typically will not recommend those tying kits, especially if you plan on staying in fly tying. The overall quality is typically low and many of the included tools will not work for an extended period of time. With that said, if you do find a decent one, let me know, and I can't blame you for going that route for cost purposes alone. I have additional recommendations for beginners here (www.troutandfeather.com/fly-tying-videos/#/beginnerrecommendations/), which you may have already investigated! Good luck, and keep me updated with everything. Tim
One thing I have been trying to improve the last couple of years is the life span of my flies. This is an excellent teaching video thank you Tim.
You got it Deb! I also have been utilizing more UV resins and super glue, WAY more so than in the past. Do you find yourself doing that, too? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I do find myself using more glue and Resin but more importantly I've really tried to concentrate on my thread tension as well as using more half hitches to secure materials and thank you for that advice Tim, it's been very helpful as some flies I really don't like to use any glue on. Cheers.
This is the best video on finishing a fly, since it shows so many options. Thank you!
You're welcome, Douglas, and thank you for such kind words. Tim
When I first started tying I didn't have the advantage of CZcams. I'm sure this will be very helpful for lots of people (hence the view count). It's a great explanation of why and how.
Thanks, The Weekly Fly ; it's great to know that so many have found this video helpful. TC
Same for me. CZcams is really very handy. Like this instructional video is for starters. Great job
Thanks for the kind words, Olav, and hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thank you. Great instruction. I'm new to tying and was able to pick up the half hitch.
Awesome, Bob! I'm glad it helped you, and welcome! I look forward to hearing from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
No head cement here either. Go Uncle John! Great tutorial Tim! Your videos are very precise and informative! Keep 'em coming!
Excellent tutorial that explained the techniques to my son far better than I could show him.
Thanks for the kind words, Cailean; I appreciate them. Good luck tying with your son! TC
Thank you very much for this video. It is so clear and I can finally use my whip finishing tool, competently, that I got last Christmas!
Thanks, James; I'm glad the video proved useful to you. TC
Thank you for the video.
I hand whip finish my flies. I was surprised that what you showed looked different from what I do, so I looked for other You Tube videos demonstrating the hand whip finish. The first one shown in the search results was of Tim Flagler showing the hand whip finish. That one resonated with me and appeared to match what I do, though I'm sure that the thread doesn't notice a difference.
The second whip finishing tool is what I know as the Thompson type.
I have just been watching several of your videos and I consider them to be outstanding.
You're welcome, Doug, and I appreciate the comments and kind words. I look forward to hearing more from you on my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I have a fly tool kit I got at Cabela's and it has several half hitch tools which work like the pen you showed. They have several different sized holes in them for, I assume, different sized hook eyes. My bodkin even has a hole in the end. Keep the good stuff coming Tim.
You got it, Johnny, and those are the half-hitch tools that will keep the thread secure! I hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Most of the bodkins I have are tapered and have a hollowed out cavity on the end to do the "Ball Point Pen" method of whip finishing. Use a Materelli tool myself
I have seen so many videos on finishing a fly and I have the second whip finisher you showed, none of the videos have used that one so I couldn't figure out how to use mine. I am so happy you included that one on this video I finally know how to use it now! Awesome video thank you!
You're welcome, Michelle and glad that the video helped! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Clear and easy to follow.......the pen method is a great idea.
I just saw this video and wanted to comment on the last method. Back in the Dark Ages I use to use a ball point pen refill. They were made of metal back then and they were NOT tapered so they were easier to use. When I started making saltwater flies I went to Home Depot and bought a short piece of copper tubing. The smallest I could find and cut it with a plumbers tool. In that way the end of the copper tube was curved inward with no sharp edges. If you can't find a very old ball point pen, try Home Depot
I have 2 of the whip finishers with the tight wind. I made my first whip finisher from a wire dry cleaners hanger tying bass deer hair flies. great video!!!!
Now that sounds cool, James!! I need to see a pic of that one: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks for taking the time to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thanks for those kind words; I'm glad you enjoyed that night bc it was a lot of fun from my end! To start off, a great direction would be with brown and black stoneflies. Next, I would concentrate on the green caddis, tan caddis, light cahill, sulfur, and a few midges. Checking out general information on mayflies and caddisflies would be extremely beneficial, as well. Good luck!
Fyi..you're my go to guy on CZcams for fly tying techniques..
Thanks, Martin! That's really kind to say, and it's because of people like you that I stay motivated. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Inside of the box that my D. H. Thompson Model "ULTRA" Fly-Tyer's Vise is Thompson paperwork that lists all the Thompson tools and that second tool is listed in there as their Standard Model Whip Finisher, the original Thompson Figure Four Whip Finisher.
Thompson lists two finishers, that one and the R/L Model designed by Fred W Watson which was claimed to be easier to use because it didn't have the double loop on the end.
Good info. I'm just starting fly tying.
Thanks, Pastor Randy...and welcome to tying! If you have questions, don't hesitate to email: tcammisa@gmail.com Tim
Thanks alot...I've always struggled with the tools so I hand whip my jigs.....but the pen idea at the end is pure genius!!
I'm glad I can help, Andy, and I'm grateful to those who showed me the techniques originally. I appreciate you taking a moment to comment, and hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. Tim
You are a great teacher thanks , now I can also whip finish a fly , battled with that whip finishing tool didn’t know how to use it you’re video clip helped a lot 👍👍👍
You're welcome, Ronnie, and thanks for the kind words. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
This is an old vids, but still great. Thanks... ☺
Thank you so much for the kind words, Harry, so maybe I need to make a modern one?? ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Excellent video, I'm going to start fly fishing and I'm fascinated about leaning to tie my own fly's. Your video has answered a lot of questions I had about tying off. Many thanks.
Thanks for the kind words, Brady, and good luck in both fly fishing and fly tying. If you have any questions, be sure to reach out to me, or you can always check the "Beginners" section of my website: www.troutandfeather.com/fly-tying-videos/#/beginnerrecommendations/ Thanks again! Tim
Great job explaining each method. You helped with my confusion
You're welcome, and I appreciate you taking a moment to let me know. Thanks, and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim
i loved this video, it taught me how to do it, and as a beginner i need all the help i can get,, thank you very much alan
Thanks for the kind words, alan hunter ; I'm glad to know that as a beginner, you're sticking with it. Good luck, and let me know if you have any questions regarding fly tying. TC
thank you...great video...simple easy to follow instructions that helped me out on finishing flies...much appreciated Tim ;)
You're welcome, John, and I appreciate the positive comments. Thanks for the feedback! Tim
i understand the whip finisher tool now, thanks Jim
+Jim Wheeler You got it, Jim; I'm glad to have helped! Tim
It makes makes me soooooo clear!!!
I'm appreciate your tutorial
Thank you for the kind words, Don, and I look forward to hearing from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Hey Tim,
I've never tried the hand whip process before, but after seeing this vid I will give it a try...Thank You for the instruction video...
+CWO4D You got it, Denver; it's the only way I've been finishing flies for as long as I can remember. Good luck with it! TIm
@@TimCammisa Same here - started long ago and had no access to whip finishing tool tutorial so did by hand and works great, but Materelli tool can help in tight situations, not expensive. Just keep tension on that thread no matter what method. Thanks Tim - great CZcams channel !!!
Thanks so much for making this, just started fly tying and had problems learning whip to finish my flies, your video solved this. Also great tip about the putting the half hitch first too.
Thanks for taking a moment to share your kind words, Steven! Tim
Great vid and demo; I use the half hitch a lot too and find it saves time looking for whip finisher; usually under something! cheers.
hunt4fish Thanks for taking the time to comment, and I rarely use the whip finisher except in very specific circumstances. Thanks again for the kind words. TC
Great demo.....really like the pen trick for the dry fly. thanks
hunt4fish You're welcome, and thanks for taking a moment to comment. Looking forward to hearing more from you in some of my other videos. TC
All your information is good#troutandfeather.
omg this video is a life saver thanks so much for taking the time out of your day to make them it helped me out so much thanks again!!
Thanks for the kind words, Bryan, and I'm glad you found the video useful. I appreciate you taking a moment to comment and hope you enjoy some of my other fly tying tutorials. Tim
Thank You for the great information, i use the matterelli alot but didnt know how to use the other whip finisher,now I can practice Thanks again.
You're welcome, Ryeguy B ; thanks for taking a moment to comment. TC
I can't tell you how much I appreciate you sharing this information! Thank you so much!! :)
You're welcome, Steve, and let me know what you think of my other videos. Tim
My Dr. Slick bodkin has a hole in the opposite end. Kind of like the pen method, I use it to precisely position the location of the1st half-hitch without releasing the tension but i add an extra twist to the thread. This bodkin also allows me to push the hackle back. I have the 1st whip finisher & hated using it when a hackle was in play. I used to catch a few feather & pull them into the hook eye. Using the bodkin/pen method allows me to push the hackle back then seat the whip knot. Perfect finish to the fly.
Thanks for sharing, Jester, and great suggestions for those looking to purchase a whip finish tool. Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thank you for the video. You’re an excellent teacher!
You're welcome, Ian, and thanks for the kind words! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Excelent presentation.
Thankyou for explaining how to use the finishing tool. keep up the good work.
David Hunt Thanks, David; I appreciate your kind words. To further this video, I am currently making another talking about head cements to use on flies, and it should be out later this week. Thanks again! TC
The name is Thompsom Style Whip finisher
Thanks Tim I just hope I can start finishing my flies better now.
I'm sure you can, Ryan, and thanks for the comment! Tim
Tanks for share this big help
You're welcome, Adrian, glad I could help! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Wish I had seen this when I first started tying. Good descriptions.
Thanks for the kind words, Paul, and I look forward to your comments on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I never use whip-finish-tools. Long time since. Nice not needing one :-)
And Tim. you are a great tyer. Nice watching your vids :-)
Thanks for the kind words, Tor, and I'm with you! It's very nice! Tim
Great video you are a good teacher. I learned a lot of good technique's thanks!
Thanks for the kind words, cabmaker ; I really appreciate your comment, and am glad that you were able to learn the techniques. TC
Thanks so much this really helped now I can use my whip finisher
Awesome, Billy, and I'm happy to have helped. I look forward to hearing more from you on some of my other videos. Here are some beginner videos through my website: www.troutandfeather.com/fly-tying-videos#/beginnerrecommendations . If you have any questions, don't hesitate to reach out, and good luck tying! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thank You! This was a very easy to follow video. I've just started tying and finishing them off has been giving me the most trouble
You're welcome, Anthony; thanks for the feedback regarding finishing techniques. I'm happy to hear that you just started tying, and be sure to let me know if you need any help with additional procedures. TC
Thanks for the video. Im looking at getting a fly tying kit and practicing with it to make some of my rigs weedless. Then maybe one day tying flies.
Awesome, Bill, and definitely consider getting into fly tying. It's a lot of fun and the best part is catching a fish on a pattern you tied (and even created!). If you ever have any questions, shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Hope you're an amateur dresser of trout and salmon hooks by now. If not and still undecided, I would recommend avoiding starter kits. Simply because they are often inadequate and end up in a drawer, at the same time putting you off a pastime and maybe even career in an awesome sport essential. Some of the best fly patterns are out there because someone tried a new hobby. Check Ebay for some great job lot auction lots in tying fly's material as an alternative.
Thanks, Joe; I appreciate it. Uncle John is surely proud!
Fantastic video and great instructor
Thanks, Miguel!
Adding half hitches throughout the tying process was an old school trick.... Not just at the end.
At each step, you add a half-hitch.
The tail is tied in? Half hitch
Finished dubbing? Half hitch
And so on.
Coupled with judicious applications of cement along the way, flies were made very durable in this manner.
Also, commercial tyers often used a "dip" made from white wax (paraffin) and kerosene at the end, on dry flies.
Once dryb the wax-kerosene duo helped the fly float, added strength and held the fly together, both in transit and while sitting in the bins of a shop.
It also makes the colors of the fly "pop," enhancing its appearance.
Arcane methods few know of, today.
Thanks for commenting and adding on to the discussion, and you are correct about adding durability. I used to place more half-hitches in my patterns, but now do so on an as-needed basis. That wax-kerosene is something I've used, though I am unsure of the recipe. Have you ever made it yourself? If so, shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thanks, +Charly K. I appreciate the comment! TC
You are great !!!! Happy New Year!!!!
Bohdan Zielinski Thanks, Bohdan; I'm glad you enjoy the video! TC
Many thanks, this has help me so much
You're welcome, Kevin, and thanks for the kind words. Feel free to shoot me an email with additional questions, or even just to signup for my email newsletter: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Good to showcase
Thanks, Tong! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thx for the clear instruction
You got it; thanks for the positive comment! TC
Thank you great video the best whip finishing video
+Brian Moore You're welcome, Brian, and thanks for the kind words! Tim
I went to one of your fly tying demonstrations that you and Don as well as a few other guys had on Monday. You guys really inspired me to get started in the sport of fly fishing. I was wondering what types of insects trout in our area feed on? I want to look up some information on these insects and learn how to tie them.
Awesome ! Thanks Tim. Really good instructions homie. Most appreciated. 🤙🏽🎣
Thanks for the kind words! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I use the pen treak for years .
And using my fingers too.
I'm not that great using the tools
But I have a better Idea using them
Now. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome, Carl, and thanks for taking a moment to comment. I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Hey Tim...I'm testing my hand skill on the Half Hitch and the Whip Finish...I've got the hang of the half hitch...The Hand Whip finish is going to take more practice before can do it naturally. (boy did I unravel a lot of material)... I'm sitting at my tying desk trying to imitate the video you posted on " Bird of Prey Caddis" I am using a size 10 Tiemco scud hook....not easy for my clumsy hands...I've made three and their all slightly different...I'll get there and make them consistent....Thanks again for the instructional video...Happy new year in 2 hours on the west coast!!
+CWO4D I'm glad you're practicing, Denver; the hand whip finish is my favorite, by far! I recommend practicing the knot on a bare hook over and over until you get more comfortable with it. Thread is cheap! You picked a great fly to tie, and it sounds like you know consistency is the name of the game. Keep it up, and let me know if you need anything. Tim
nice job, and vid Thanks Tim
Thanks, Mark! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
The 2nd whip finish tool is called Thompson style.
hey tim, super video. i'm an avid fisherman. i've always wanted to tie my own flies. i have a painting business and one day last week im at a customers house and i'm doing a little side apartment to his place. his son past away and had all this fly tying stuff. i asked for it and he said i was hoping someone found some use for it. i got home and it was chock full of everything i tell you!! now im watching this video and im trying very hard to do this wick finish that i cant get. a million times i keep repeating the step here. the hand tie i get. this tool is killing me! the hook end and the loop end of the tool. i cant keep the loop end from letting the line from wrapping around with the hook end. im gonna keep trying. im subscribed, so i am glued to watching you. thanks
Ernie Walker Thanks, Ernie, and I'm glad you got into fly tying. It's a great hobby, and I'm happy to help. You may also want to check out my Beginner's Page on my website, "Trout and Feather." On there, I give a lot of tips for those new to the sport, and some of the best videos for those new to fly tying. Good luck, and be sure to let me know if you have any questions. Tim
I use an old dissection pin with the 5mm round handle, and that is my half-hitch "tool". I had to hollow out the butt end though so the knot would go over the hook end.
Also, it doubles as a dubbing needle.
:)
+Scott Roy Great idea, Scott; thanks for sharing the suggestion with others. I hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. Tim
Whip finishers ? In early 1990 I began fly tying, I own nearly half a dozen of them in many types/brands. I started tying simple beginners flies, lather difficult types, in top of ladder classic salmon flies (Evening star), but never need only one. For what ? Everyone has fingers or ballpoint-pens. Simple, quick and easy. If somebody want my whip finishers, he can have them all!
Good job!Been looking for this. Thanks.
You're welcome, and glad to help! Feel free to check out some of my other videos, and here's a page on my website with beginner recommendations: www.troutandfeather.com/fly-tying-videos/#/beginnerrecommendations/ Tim
Thanks, Nick; it's not my idea, but it's a great method that I wanted to share.
Just got into fly tying great video i mastered them all half hitch is excellent thank you ALIEN
Awesome, and the method without the tool remains my favorite! Which one do you prefer? Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
This is a great video! Thank you for sharing.
You're welcome, Chad; thanks for taking a moment to say that. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on some of my other videos... Tim
I have that 2nd whip finisher. Found it at Dick's sporting goods. It was labeled as Indian whip finisher , large. I see that others have different names for it. I also prefer the first Style you showed. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks for sharing, Craig, and I appreciate the kind words. I hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Mine came with a DH Thompson vise and the DH Thompson paperwork lists it as their Standard Finisher the Figure Four Model. The finisher was in it's own plastic wrapper which included directions and that paperwork stated Sunrise India as the Manufacturer.
Nice
Thanks, Kelly! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Fantastic vid !!
Thanks! If you'd like to receive email updates, be sure to check out my website. Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Not sure if anyone answered, I didn’t read all comments... older video (great one though).
2nd tool I believe is commonly called the Thompson whip finish tool.
Thanks, Will, and you are correct with the type! I hope all is well and thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Great video thank you
You're welcome, Martin, and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Feel free to check my website: www.troutandfeather.com Thanks again! Tim
I use my bobkin tool the brass handle has a hole in it to go over the hook eye for the half hitch
Great suggestion, and that's a great tool with its ability to perform multiple jobs. Thanks for sharing this with others! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thank you is a very good video :)
You're welcome, Tibor Burai ; thank you for the kind words. TC
Great vid thank you !
You got it, Kyle; thanks for the comment! TC
the spring finisher is a Thomas whip finish tool. Just bought one.
Thanks for the update, Neal, and I hope all is well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Yes their standard finisher the Figure Four Model.
I just recently bought a White River fly tying kit I have a question what type of wax do you need to use for your thread. An what gauge is your copper and silver wire
I highly recommend you read Al & Gretchen Beatty's "Not all whip finishes are created equal" segment on page 50 of the Winter 2008 Fly Tyer to see why the direction in which you apply the whip finish has consequences and moving toward the eye is better than moving away from the eye.
Thanks for the comment, Carl; I'll have to check that out. It sounds like moving forward is a better procedure, thus I am interested in their thoughts. TC
The second whip finisher is a Thomson whip finisher.
Thanks for the comment, and you are correct! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Their standard finisher the Figure Four model.
Thanks, Mr123max9; I appreciate the comment.
Thanks mate good video
Thanks for the comment, Fox Whisperer ! TC
Most bodkins have a half hitch tool on the end opposite the needle.
Many of them do, Dominick; thanks for mentioning that for others! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
great examples! I've been using the hand method. I have the same tool you call the whip finishing tool, and have never gotten it to work properly. I think it's because I'm left handed and it appears that the tool is meant for righties. I wonder if the Materelli would work for me?
Thanks for the kind words and comments, Adam, and if the hand method works, why change it? It's the only method I've used for over 25 years of tying. The tools would work for you (reversed), though I can't tell you the last time I used one. Thanks again and good luck! Tim