WHY risk it NASA is to launch NEW capsule into orbit instead of SpaceX Dragon...
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- WHY risk it NASA is to launch NEW capsule into orbit instead of SpaceX Dragon...
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0:00-0:26: Intro
0:27-2:59: Starliner update
3:00-4:32: Starliner is safe?
4:33-5:37: Focus on Dragon
5:38-7:10: Big humiliation for Starliner: Technology
7:11-8:39: Big humiliation for Starliner: Expense
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NASA is to launch New capsule instead of SpaceX Dragon!
The countdown timer is on!
Finally, Boeing is ready to reattempt the Starliner launch after the humiliation in the race with SpaceX.
This flight will open a gateway to paradise for Boeing if successful, but it could be the gates of hell if it fails.
And the question here is whether Boeing's Starliner is guaranteed safe.
Should NASA continue to use Starliner for future missions?
Why not focus on Dragon?
Let’s find out on today’s episode of Alpha Tech:
(0:26)
First, we would like to mention the current situation of the Starliner capsule.
After years of delays and a dizzying array of setbacks during test flights, Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft is finally set to make its inaugural crewed launch.
As soon as May 6, the Boeing Crewed Flight Test is planned to lift off from SLC-41 on an Atlas V rocket with NASA's 2 astronauts Barry Wilmore and Sunita Williams.
Last week final preparations began with Boeing fueling Starliner with the propellent it needs for its attitude control thrusters and abort system.
Similar to SpaceX’s Dragon, Starliner uses hypergolic fuel for its systems. This fuel can be stored at room temperature so it can last the entire mission, however, it’s extremely toxic to humans.
Fueling was completed mid-las week and so teams from both Boeing and ULA picked up Starliner and moved it to SLC-41 overnight. The process began at Boeing's facility at Kennedy Space Center, originally constructed as one of the hangars for the Space Shuttles, and concluded just outside SLC-41 at the Vertical Integration Facility. - Věda a technologie
Actually, I don’t have a problem with not putting all our eggs in one basket. NASA just needs to keep a close eye on Boeing. No one wants to see a door blow off in space…
Boeing Space (Boeing Defense/Space/Security) is a subsidiary company with separate CEO. It runs on its own without everyday supervision from the parent company.
@@soyuz281 that was a joke with a little jab at Boeing…
@@Ryarios There are plenty of comments on here to see that many don't understand that they are separate entities.
Such jokes just perpetuate the myth.
@@GSimpsonOAM Ahh! So you're saying we shouldn't blame the critical design flaws of their spacecraft on the people responsible for the critical design flaws in their commercial aircraft. Got it!
I’m sure space X can build its own parts more streamlined than any of its competitors.
If it’s Boeing, it’s not going.
Hope Boeing remembers to put the bolts in that holds the door on...
That is called individual discipline by a single individual, failing to check and double check his work, like ANY professional would do. That is what A&P's. perform any time they maintain an aircraft. NO BUREAUCRACY involved , just an entry into the logbook.
Given Boeing's track record, no amount of money would be enough to get me on board that thing.
The Atlas centaur is retired. Restart production? At what cost?
Not reusable, means a huge cost increase compared to Falcon 9.
There's a special viewing area for whistleblowers, under the rocket.
I hope Boeing remembers to tighten the nuts and bolts on that thing. It would be a shame if the door blew out in outer space.
And mysteriously all the engineers started committing suicide shortly after lol
Starliner doors open inward, but dont let that stop your hatred of boeing...
If I were an astronaut,I would be very afraid of those odds of success.
NASA IS years behind SpaceX and they have all The money in The world,but still they cant do s... One random Guy with money did Make you joke in couple years.
"all the money in the world" my fanny. NASA is constantly penny-pinched by Congress, and the brand new US Space Force already has a MUCH higher budget than NASA could ever dream of.
What are you talking about? SPACEX HAS A 2 BILLION CONTRACT WITH NASA. Elon isn't spending his own money, each time he blows up a rocket, those are your tax dollars. Holy crap, the muskrat love is blind
Why did dragon have multiple non crew successful test prior to crew certification, but starliner after repeated safety issues is making its first launch with crew? Please explain
Boeing, with their reputation for quality and safely.
Another fine Boeing product...what could go wrong?
If its Boeing, I ain't going
I’m more concerned with whistle-blower loss …..
If I was an astronaut, I would pass on the ride.
Will SpaceX get paid to be on standby in case they need to perform a rescue mission?
😂😂😂
Sorry, there are zero rescue missions planned. Once the candle is lit, the Starliner crew is on their own.
With how Boeing airlines are going, I would never get in one.
A human certified Dream Chaser will make life even harder for Boeing.
If you think I'd get on any spacecraft designed and built by Boeing you would be crazy. I wouldn't ride a bicycle designed and built by Boeing.
Better double check the door before launch.
This video gave me "Challenger" vibes.
Advice from the sidelines......
Don't sit next to the door.
Eh. There's some wrong takes there. The only "throwaway" part is Atlas, and Atlas is retiring, while Starliner is designed also designed to be compatible with not just Vulcan-Centaur but Falcon-9. The former had a successful launch first try, by the way, so there's certainly a lot of room to bring costs down through re-usability.
And frankly, given the management of both SpaceX and Boeing, it's good that there's a third option out there.
Boeing software team: I envision a room full of monkeys hammering on keyboards. I realize that's mean, but that's where my brain goes.
"It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!" Stupid monkeys!
Boeing built some of the greatest aircraft ever--like the B52, which has been flying combat missions over 75 years and no plans to retire them. But in recent years they seem to be slipping in the QC area. Perhaps they should step back from the space craft--leave that to the experts like Musk and perhaps work on cleaning up their aircraft functions.
I just hope the most diverse group of engineers possible didn’t design this thing.
You're right. Why use a $20 million launch vehicle when you can use a $2 billion rocket
Thank you so much!
Let’s be honest. There is only two fundamental issues that’s need to be addressed at Boeing.
GREED
DEI
I really don't see the why they continue to pour money into a spacecraft that, at best, will have a 5-year lifespan when/if certified. Are they continuing with the program because they've put so much money into it that they can't cancel it?
At this point, Starliner has become as big a boondoggle as Artemis.
It's like a cursed capsule! Why? Please watch our new episode tomorrow!
Starliner is for missions to the Moon and Mars by NASA for astronauts. Starship is for hauling cargo only!😊
Boeing and Nasa's affirmative action/DEI hiring programs are sure to bring the safety, quality and skill needed for success. LOL
This is not your father's Boeing.
When Boeing left Seattle they no longer designed planes that could fly. Why anyone thinks they can fly to space is beyond belief.
NASA needs to save face but the most important thing for StarLiner is to be used to move the ISS into a higher orbit and not rely on the Russians to do it.
They ran out of duct tape half way through. I bet it doesn't get to orbit before a wheel falls off. It shouldn't even have wheels.
See how closely our govt is working with Boeing?
So it doesn't take much imagination to think the worst when you consider that two Boeing whistle-blowers have suddenly died recently.
We can't be having anybody rock the boat, now can we??
If it’s a Boeing, I ain’t going.
Has NASA checked that all the bolts on the spacecraft have actually been installed and fastened to the correct torque? And that the software won't kill all the astronauts??
For one, NASA want to see where the money went that Boeing was given.
NASA needs a company they have to babysit:)
If it's Boeing, I'm not going...
If it's got Doors... It's not Safe...
The "DOORS" worked, it was the "PLUG" that failed.
Get prepared for the worst possible outcome.
At least these 2 astronauts don't have to shower before this flight. They can wash up on shore after the launch.
@@wally7856 Damn......lol
I recommend to everyone to follow the mantra "If it's Boeing, I'm not going". The company is always prioritising profits ahead of safety.
😂 Same!
Launching Boeing Starliner with a KNOWN but "mitigated" flight-safety issue ?
That seems perfectly safe...unless you happen to be on board when it FAILS.🤔
Hopefully Boeing’s space craft engineering is better than its aircraft engineering!
They have failed on two previous launches, so no it is not any better.
@@bill5982 well, to be fair, Space-X has had their fair share of failed launches. The same with NASA. In fact, before NASA’s first manned launch, the joke was "our stuff always blows up."
I hope Boeing puts the doors on right. 😮😢😅
Hope so
Putting lives at risk to justify spending billions 😢
Reminds me of Doris Day standing in front of Apollo 1 promoting its safety. Way too late now for service.
Hopefully, the door doesn't pop open
Attitude control thrusters. Not "altitude."
"Details schmetails."
This video gave me Challenger vibes.
The pink and purple hair, with nose ring crowd running NASA.....what could go wrong? You couldn't pay me enough to fly in that thing.
Where's Gene Kranz when you need him?
You are not a neutral reporting source!
Sadly a once great company, has become largely incompetent, in space and commercial aircraft. They are still very relevant in military aircraft. Boeing need to get their collective shit together.
However, to their credit, they have mastered diversity, equity, and inclusiveness in their hiring and have the most diverse employee base in the entire Aerospace industry! Being a human-oriented company is more important than the quality of products that you create! Anything else would be a threat to our Democracy!
I have been working on Boeing helicopters since 1986. I can tell you that the product they put out now is not as good as what came out in the 80s and 90s. And this isn't a helicopter that Boeing got in an acquisition. This is one they've built since the early 60s. All of us old guys are scratching our heads. Boeing has lost their way. Hopefully they can get it back.
@@dcorman Hilarious. I love it.
@@user-en9zo2ol4z It's funny because it's true ;)
I don't trust the government; I don't trust the private sector - best to have at least two working on this science.
You couldn't get me on it at gun point.
Two whistleblowers got Arkancided🤷♂️
Boeing’s reputation isn’t exactly stellar at the moment.
It's weird how SpaceX gets all this free publicity. So far Starliner did function flawlessly in a wide orbit trip to the moon and back. It was in space, providing life support for like 6 weeks.
CGI
@@czarcastic1458 And if the economy can support 2 spacecraft, redundancy makes sense.
Edit, my bad. Orion was the spacecraft I'm thinking of. I guess that makes 3 human space craft for the US
@@mrspaceman2764 Where's the data from that flight? The test dummies were wired up for many tests . Why won't they release the scientific data?
This is the last gasp of the old system. Just few more billion please!
you mean the last "grab" right? Once Space X reaches the moon by itself, NASA will be officially dead.
2 very brave or stupid people.
If they survive is a roll of the dice.
It's Boeing we are talking about here.
What an epic waste of taxpayers funds. Cost ++ as usual.
Costs many times more than the SpaceX system that actually works….
Billions that could have been spent on schools or any other sensible project.
Boeing will be the sound of the parts falling off.
We desperately need either a backup vehicle, OR a NASA exception for grounding F9 in case of an accident.
Well I for one am 100% sure that anything that Musk has his hands on is completely safe.
Sarcy!
0:54 "Altitude control" Geez. I'm done already here.
Kind of a weird Apollo type capsule with mods. Exactly, what capabilities does Starliner offer? Just more roomier than Dragon? Dragon seems more efficient in design, I don't see modular add-ons that we see on Starliner.
Great Video ! The NASA leadership killed two Crews of the NASA Space Shuttle by having only one launch provider to LEO ! With the Boeing Starliner launched on the ULA Atlas Centaur then NASA will have a second launch provider to LEO ! How many flights will the ULA Vulcan Centaur have to launch before the ULA rocket is human rated ? With NASA having more than one launch provider to LEO that will improve Crew SAFETY and allow NASA to complete its mission ! Also soon the Sierra Space Cargo Dream Chaser will launch on its first flight to the ISS ! After the Cargo Dream Chaser completes the six contracted Cargo missions to the ISS and returns safely to a Space Port Runway, then Dream Chaser will be FREE to UP-grade to the Crew Dream Chaser ! ! ! The "Capsules and Spaceplanes to LEO" is the Vision 2 of 5 of the Vision for Space Exploration (VSE Presidential speech January 2004). The Tech developed to return to the moon to stay, can take US and the world to Mars and beyond ! tjl
Thank you so much!
The problem isn't the rocket, it's the crawler. It's too small, shaking the Starliner rocket as it travels. That's why the Boeing rocket leaks so much.
Yeah, probably so much worse than the vibration during launch and max Q
"Highly toxic fuel." What happens if it blows up on the pad? Will it contaminate the launch facility? I pray it doesn't. I hope the crew makes it through okay. Why are we spending millions on something a privet contractor can do cheaper and better?
Boeing IS a private contractor, just like SpaceX. Only SpaceX takes space travel seriously. Not yet another round of "Make Work" projects Boeing is used to getting and having canceled out from under them for decades. THIS TIME Boeing HAS to do actual WORK!
Why would Boeing and NASA try to come up with new ideas when they were making billions milk and the tax pairs out of their hard earned dollars. I wouldn’t even admit if I work for Boeing or NASA I’d be ashamed of myself.
Any bets there will be a last-minute delay that will lead to months and months of upper echelon management bonus check enhancements. Any bets, anyone, any one. ?
Boeing is desperate for a big PR win.
Too many delays, failures and cost over-runs.
Kick the tires and light the fires...on the Apollo capsule remake-
and a rocket made from Space shuttle surplus parts.
NASA will do what they do, spend millions on obsolescence and possible failure only to give overlong premature briefings on how successful they are.
It's called the Traditional Aerospace & Defense Contractor BREADLINE.
Would you feel safe using a Starliner that took 9 years to fly if you can use a Dragon with a lot of safe flights already ??
Maybe this is a whim of technical pride….
Can you review NASA's "probability" crew loss analysis before and after the Challenger disaster?
One engineer (prior to Challenger) pinned the chances of a shuttle accident as 1 in 78.
NASA told him that he was pessimistic.
1 in 295? They are slim odds for me, certainly to bet my life on, for if it was just a bet involving money, fine.
And fore dragon 1 in 276 ?
Boeing spends a lot of time telling us how good they are... SpaceX shows us.
Given Boings recent track record I'd be very wary of their quality control. Not to mention that the cost effectiveness of Crew Dragon is far better than anything NASA can do and that is because Boeing is a publicly traded company and all they are concerned about is making money.
Nowadays failure IS an option
Video reminds me of NASA's replacement for hyperbolic fuels; Green fuel (GPIM). I wonder where that stands? It would sure help as a replacement in a lot of dangerous cases.
Missions To nowhere!!!
Also, don't forget the "Orion"Spacecraft.🚀
Sierra Space has their Dreamchaser that will fly a cargo mission in a few months and will have a human rated spacecraft one soon.
Had they got a fraction of the money Boeing received, we would already have another option. One that can land on many runways that puts a far less G load on experiments upon re-entry that can also boost the ISS into a higher orbit as needed.
I'm also very impressed with Dream Chaser! It will be interesting when it is a competitor to SpaceX's Dragon
Or in the least, supplement Space Dragon
Because putting all your eggs in one basket is always a bad idea.
Not sure about that when Boeing built the other basket.
The cargo dragon was already working to deliver supplies to the ISS. The crew dragon needed to be designed to deliver people. NASA scrutinized SpaceX so much that they actually made them better, while ignoring Boeing. Once I looked at a cockpit comparison, I knew that Boeing's design was like 50 years behind the times and it was doomed to failed. I hope Boeing is able to get it working.
It doesn't help that the name "BOEING" sounds like a cartoon sound effect for bouncing.
Is someone going to check the door plugs for hardware?
Is the clock set..?
The starliner won't even know where it is going.
*Can you imagine being one of those poor astronauts who will be forced to fly on that bucket of junk instead of SpaceX's Dragon?* 😳
I couldn't agree more. It is a bucket of junk.
And just HOW are they being FORCED?
I understand that Starliner has propulsion capability to do orbital boosts of the ISS which Crew Dragon lacks. I suppose that is one reason to have Starliner available, although ISS doesn't have too many years left at this point.
And of course everyone has to hope that Boeing can solve the corrosion problem with the hypergolic thrusters which have yet to prove their reliability.
Dragon was designed with self propusilve landing abilities and thrust in space. NASA chose not to have these systems in Dragon.
The View should be the first crew. Or the Ivy League Presidents.
Launching is Optional !!
Landing is Mandatory !!
Yeah… I would not want to be a test pilot for this rig… Boeing is not the gold standard of flight anymore….
In hindsight one wonders how Dream Chaser would have fared if it had been picked instead of Boeing. Ironic that Nasa thought they were picking old and reliable, instead they got old and... Dream Chaser and Dragon were the 21st century picks.
I sure wouldn't like to be the poor astronauts that have to fly on starliner! 🤢
Shares in Space X then Alpha Tech?
Get all the bolts on the doors!
Where the government wastes money the private sector saves money. Nothing has changed since the '60s.
If Star Liner is suppose ti be a backup use it as one. Don't use it to launch humans unless you have to.
BUT, you don't know 'IF' it 'WORKS' until you use it! Sure it flew once, but had major problems, so, try, try, try, again... But, personally, I wouldn't take a ticket to ride Starliner.
If the astronauts don't make it then Boeing won't either.
I think this is realistic take. MAKE IT OR BREAK IT. !!! DO OR DIE.
Based on how lousy their aircraft are built, I would stay away from this. Far away.