🇸🇪 Marcus & Martinus "Unforgettable" ANALYSIS & REACTION | Sweden 🇸🇪 | Eurovision 2024
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
- I react to the live performance of Markus & Martinus singing "Unforgettable", who will represent Sweden in Eurovision 2024.
I discuss their potential visual staging, the meaning of the song and its lyrics, whether this can qualify & whether they can reach the top 10!
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:25 Music Video Reaction
4:53 First Thoughts
9:45 Lyrical analysis
12:12 Staging Analysis
13:56 Who are Sweden in ESC?
16:20 Jury & Televote
20:20 Community Response
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I feel like people kinda underestimate their televote potential. They are pretty established artists and a lot of people around Europe know them/grew up with their music, at least in some western countries like Germany, Netherlands or France. Now I'm not saying that they will smash the televote, but I see potential for top 10 in the televote.
Im Dutch and never once heard of them and the song is, ironically, forgettable. But thats just me.
Never underestimate the televoting power of millions of 8-15 year old girls in northern/Western Europe where the fanbase is established as well as new fans probably popping up in the rest of Europe. On top of that the song is quite Daft Punk “clubby” and has the best staging so far, which will appeal to many 18-30 year olds as well - and especially the jury!
It’s a safe top 10 and potential lower top 5. But not a winner of course.
@@Fluxwux why only girls, not boys as well? But yeah, if you're talking about the Netherlands, it also do well with people aged 15 to 30, not just 8 to 15. But yes, teenagers don't throw away their own money in this app, but their parents' money, so they might vote all 20 times possible, while older people might be more cautious with money and might only vote for a couple of times. And yes, it's a very electronic, hardstyle song which conveys a great message, so people who are 18 and older and who aren't solely listening to pop, might be voting for it as well.
@@in_wino_veritas I mostly talk about 8-15 year old girls because it’s the stereotypical/overrepresented fans of M&M here in Scandinavia that will spam vote 20 times, but many boys and guys like them as well of course! The sound is according to me a bit generic but still pure pop perfection and appeals to people outside the traditional fanbase due to that the sound on the ESC stage is probably the most “modern” club song with hints of Daft punk and the whole 90s/synth nostalgia (but with a modern twist) going on in pop culture at the moment.
@@Fluxwux why of course not win? This is the only different song, the song witch got it all. I think this is the only song I can vote.😊
I hope you’re not too burnt out! I know you were posting a ton last month. I would love to hear a personal update from you when this season ends
Yes I most likely will do this. I’m hoping to start posting more regularly again but it won’t be like last month 😅
Agreed! Maybe a post-Eurovision Q&A for the viewers 💖
The boys are currently at #4 in my ranking, I personally really enjoy the song, I'm a big fan of pop music especially if it's got some good choreo with it, their staging is also so slick. I reckon I've watched more interviews with M&M than any other contestant as they come across so well (personal favourite is their Blue Peter appearance LOL) I hope they get a good result as I think it'd be well deserved!!
I actually really like it. I was a bit indifferent at first but it’s ridiculously catchy and it’s crawled its way into my top 10.
That being said, I doubt it will get more than 20-30 televote points. Correct me if I’m wrong, but since 2017 the most points won by the show opener is 32.
I think it will come 6th-10th with the jury and probably bottom 5 in the televote. Overall around 13th-17th.
I think that they will score very high points from all the nordic countries so 20-30 points will come from them alone. That would mean that they will get nothing from the rest of europe.. dont think that will happen
No, melovin got 119 points from the televote as an opening act in 2018. Ukraine also got 112 points from televote in 2014. Azerbaijan finished 5th in televote with 161 points in 2010. So no, being first does not mean it will completely tank in the televote. It's just that the producers usually start the grand final with a song that is upbeat but not that much of a televote magnet. We can cope and say that the songs starting the final are really good but that's only inside the eurovision bubble.
Their entry last year 'Air', was SO MUCH BETTEEEEERR!!!
It's just an ok song the staging really sells the song
I like this song but I think Air was much stronger and had more of a pulse. A shame how the timing worked out
Air was in another level! Still listen it and it give pleasant feeling.
I can see this overall finishing 8th - 10th place
Totally agree, because we have so many good artists this year that they are kind of faling to the background?
“Unforgettable” Nat King Cole - 1951
That's a cool shirt!
thanks
I guess between 6 - 10 place. From 🇸🇪
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For some reason the lyrics reminded me of "All That She Wants" by Ace Of Base.
This one has really grown on me
I also went to the Melodiefestivalen final for the first time this year (flew in from the UK), and you're completely right about the crowds feeling towards M&M! It was a great experience! My favourite was Jacqline but M&M definitely deserved the win. Not my favourite by a long way but very enjoyable
Michael Jackson maybe, but I'm getting Hall & Oates: "Watch out, boy, she'll chew you up..."
And I thought it was interesting that 05 11 starts the number sequence behind them (May 11, though that should be 11 05, ha).
These twins are so down to earth and fun to watch. The song is not my style because it reminds me of *NSYNC but their vocals are superb. The production is amazing. I’m sure they will do well in the final.
Someone posted an edited version of this on Twitter, they made it faster and deeper. I liked it a lot more. Their voices make it so boy band. Edited version was much richer sounding.
Honestly, with the strength of this year I cant see this doing too well. I reckon it will get a similar result to Tusse but with less televote support. Even with the staging the song is just too dull and it has the same vibe as 2017-2019 swedish entries.
i think thisll be stronger than Tusse with the jury, but i think overall it could be lower down than usual, yes
The staging is the best thing about this. It covers up the average chorus.
Tusse was so much better than them!
@@aekelly Will have to agree to disagree, to me Tusse was much weaker in every way (song wise, vocal wise and staging wise)
@@sav0001 fair enough. I found his song inspiring, and these boys boring and generic.
In case you don‘t know: This years Melfest-final had the lowest viewing-figures since introduction of the heats in 2002. But yes, 2,9 Million aren‘t bad at all.
About the Televote-take: 12 points from Norway safelock? If yes, they only need to get 10 points more to be more successful then Benjamin Ingrosso.
yea they will def beat Benjamin. honestly i still dont get how that did SO bad with the televote
@@ESCTomIt was due to a lack of swedishness, we lost both Gunilla Persson and Fröken snusk in the final round, and not to mention Medina wasn’t enough to carry swedish. Not to mention, ever since the international jury was introduced, the winner have almost always won by a landslide. Good songs in the final but not that entry that excites many sweds.
Hi, thanks for the review! Some reflections. What's the deal with having to have an instant memorable, catchy chorus in every song? I think it's a very one-sided and narrow-minded way of thinking. I'm sorry! A song is a journey, where every note counts and can be at least as interesting or even more so without a chorus to pick up right away!? This song is definitely that, starts captivating and mysterious with various electronic sounds. Then the beat kicks in and it becomes very catchy and advances to a heavy club beat, boosted of electro to volume up. Here, their fine voices are also mixed in with different timbres. And there is a constant energy in the song through varying strength of the beat and their energetic delivery on stage.
Strange, because most people I hear say it's very catchy, which is also the effect I get when I listen to it. I start to move quite immediately and want to dance! I think people haven't given the song a fair chance. (It took me a couple of listens to the studio version to get it's whole vibe together).
As Jan Bors says, it's extremely enjoyable in the headphones, this very well composed electro pop song (his 4th place). I turn up the volume and dig. And we are not teenagers rather around 40 I guess.
There is a clear theme here and every little detail is carefully chosen to create the feel of the number. Professionalism and creativity stand behind and should be rewarded. I am SO tired of the comparison with Benjamin, as this song has a completely different dynamic, higher tempo and expand, both energy-wise and show-wise. Not a chance that this song will come 5th last in the televote, a hint to the written comments!
They will upgrade the outfits, not change it completely but make it more futuristic. A dancer must go, to match the rules. These guys aren't here just for fun, they have winning instincts, want to win (they won't). Which inspire respect and what they should also receive!! They are extremely ambitious, determined, have enormous experience, won "winner of the year" prize in Norway only 15 years old, the biggest you can get etc. They are too professional and humble people to be talked about in the low level seen here in the comments!! 😡
The lyrics have some connections to their own experiences, such as Marcus who values his relationship highly, hence the title. The whole number should breathe a cool, tough, dark, "industrial futuristic" club vibe, which the lyrics thus match. Nothing strange at all.
Are people equally critical to "Zorra" (transl. bitch/slut) which is repeated over 40 times during the song. Or to Cyprus "Liar" with lyrics about a girl who is mad at a guy who doesn't give her enough attention.? And do you think the lyrics in Kaleen's song are deeper that repeat "we ram-di-dum-dum da, we will rave" essentially the whole song? Or "Luktelk" (wait a bit) which also repeats its title over 20 times during the song. Compared to some, this is (almost) good. In pure dancy songs/club songs as these, I do not have the same high standards on texts such as “changing the world".
And statement that they jump around and look silly is total nonsense, it creates energy between them, with the audience and fits the song. Do you prefer Saba who doesn't move her feet throughout the song, despite its expanding pop vibe.
I am ashamed of some comments on their behalf quite frankly. Not okay, but they simply don't grasp the beauty in this. That was all from me, sorry for the long comment.🌷
Clarification, the prize they won in 2016 was "Årets spellemann", equivalent to Sweden's Grammys. They were then the first under 18s to win the prestigious award. In an interview they said they were 15 years old, but according to the press they were only 14. 🌺
*Årets Spellemann is Norway's equivalent to Grammy. (In Sweden it's Grammis)👍
@@susanneed6366 Hi, I know that because I'm from Sweden😉😊. I wrote the English name so that more people would understand. Not everyone may associate the word "grammis" with a "grammy". But good that it is clarified then.👍🌷
I do think it will get 8th-14th, as they will get jury top 5, but a lower top 15 televote results, very similar to Benjamin Ingrosso
Why should the juries honor such a soulless, generic song that sounds like an AI product?
@@WerderinaA bit ridiculous to call out Sweden for sending generic music at Eurovision, a competition of generic music.
@@regulusarcturus☺️ Fortunately, for people like me, there are also quite different entries with meaningful lyrics and messages. Sweden will always have tons of fans for sure. Not everybody has to like it.
@@Werderina Because a lot of jury members are media professionals and not singers, vocal coaches, producers etc. They will get high jury votes for the staging alone
This is Jezebel's lyrics! :p
Sending thoughts and prayers to Tom wherever he is in hiding, after comparing Melfest to Sanremo 🤭🤭
If Sweden won, people would say it was a conspiracy or a deal, etc. I think they know they won't win, but they will put on a great show and want to take the best possible place. They will be high in the jury because the performance is great and they will be high in the tele vote because they have many fans all over Europe
they have almost 13 million on Spotify
Who are san marino in ESC? Isnt this from sweden 🤣
i published the video and then edited the timestamps while it was up 😂
I like the song apart from the "sheeeeeee's unnnn-forGETable" hook 😝
This track has a better pedigree than the British royal family.
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The British Royal family has a better chorus
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Just listening to all the songs once on Spotify, this was my number 12 (meaning last place) in the final of melodifestivalen. The live performance elevated it for sure but the song itself is pretty boring to me unfortunately.
Shame the song is just 1/3 about Air.
It's... fine, I guess. I don't care that much for these slick, overproduced and slightly soulless entries that Sweden's so good at. Visuals are great, as you say it's not as disconnected as Benjamin Ingrosso was. And I'll hand it to the boys that they're great performers; I saw them live in Amsterdam this weekend and they were great on stage, they sang well, danced well, good charisma (I'll forgive them for shouting "Holland!" when they came on stage). The song is nothing interesting though. I didn't care for "Air" (super boring as a radio song) and this one isn't better. I guess that's what happens if SVT wants Melfest to appeal to such a broad range of people; I guess it's really fun when you're in such a varied audience in the arena, but it keeps everything that's risky or interesting far, far away.
Like most Swedish entries, it is not appealing to me but it will do well because the individual bits that make a performance are quite well done, it's just that the total package makes it quite forgettable unfortunately.
I think it's MarCus
yes it is, ill change it now. thanks
Reminds me a lot of Faithless - Salva Mea
It's such a televote heavy year, I see Sweden doing really poorly with the televote, probably bottom 5 or so, maybe 30 points.
Bs
Some Euro fans really have to get out of the bubble, this will do much better in the televote than people think. If Tusse could get 63 televote points in a similarly open year as 2021 this song will get at least that much
For me it's a very disappointing entry from Sweden..... Considering the magical Loreen's victory last year and as a host again.
It's 90's boy band and so very repetitive.
Regards
Are they singing about kinky sex?
i dont think so...
They sing about meeting VERY hot girls in the disco, girls that you can´t avoid becoming obsessively attracted to although You can´ t get a stable relation with them. I understand the song because I have had some of these experiences in my life. Once in my youth I met an extremely beautiful and sexy woman in a disco that I instantly , in ONE second, fell in love with when I saw her smile. That love consumed me and it did not become better when I found out that she was a high end prostitute working fashionable nightclubs and 5 star hotels. For me the text is meaningful as hell. I don´t understand those that criticize the lyrics at all.
"Shes gonna hurt you bad, but it feels so good, I dont care - no I dont care". @@ESCTom
if they called song "dangerous" it would be even more obvious copy of dangerous by david guetta
"copy" ?! !!! 🤡
I actually find it quite boring and generic and don't think, it's gonna have a huge amount of support from the public, given the fact that it isn't interesting or ambitious, too commercial, too pop, plus the fact that they're opening the show.
Are You for real ? Your twitter account as noted in Your youtube channel does not exist. I actually find your comment "boring and generic"
It's definitely ironic!
A song without personality, absolutely vulgar on an excellent stage is what Sweden's song is this year.
Que Sera should've won.
Hello no!!
Typical Swedish entry - great package, little substance.
Everytime I hear that song I think how ironic the title is (for me). 😴 Sure I will not do a reaction video on this! 😂
Veeeeeeeeeeery mid song
I really can't manage to like this song. For me it ranks among the worst °.
The took the 90s underground trance banger ‘Salva Mea’ and trashed with amateur tween boy lyrics. If you know the original, this feels cringe.
What a lot of bullshit in one comment ! This is in no way similar to Salva Mea and You just don´t understand the lyrics probably because You never had the experience they are singing about. I did and I know exactly how extremely difficult those experiences may be. The lyrics is very meaningful for me. And if You are a man watch out because the same may happen to you !
@@staffanlundberg I didn’t say it’s similar I said they TRASHED Salva Mea
I know this might make a lot of people mad, but I think this is just dumb. Repetitive, and the theme is an evil woman whose love is venomous and will eat you up? Ugh. And their jumping around looks silly too. Tusse was a hundred times better and deserved to do a lot better than he did, so I hope this doesn't do well. Melo was weak this year, but I wish they'd sent Jacqueline or Scarlett.
I think it's soulless but the jury doesn't care about soul. I can see this getting inflated jury support. I'm sure I've posted this before but if Norway sent this, the jury wouldn't look at it twice. But with Sweden, a juror starts at 12 points and then takes points off, as opposed to starting at zero and adding points on.
Top 3 jury. Top 15 televote. 6th place overall.
This is a no…..
And, the whole change in the televoting system, coupled with putting themselves first….looks like fixing to me.
Bs
@@SofiaMelander abusiveness only shows you have no useful counter argument. So, I will thank you to keep your cyber attacks to yourself. I will be reporting your comment to the channel owner
Respect your opinion, but they can't have 'put' themselves first, when clear for everyone to see the draw through official allocation taking place...
it's a total rip off of a Faithless song - reductive in every way for anyone who has any knowledge of dance music - it's actually pretty disgraceful tbh
Pls explain HOW it is a rip off of salva Mea by Faithless. I checked that video and I can´t hear ANY similarity : czcams.com/video/vEpgyt3KgzE/video.html
@@staffanlundberg czcams.com/video/2NXgqFbfrd8/video.html
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@@staffanlundbergdet är ett par stycken som håller på och skriver denna kommentar på varenda video som finns om Sveriges bidrag . Som troll
It truly is rubbish.... . Worst entry from Sweden in a while... Thank goodness they perform first.... Get it over with