Sir Ken Robinson - SCHOOLS KILL CREATIVITY.
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Sir Ken Robinson is among the world's elite thinkers when it comes to creativity and innovation. Robinson has dedicated much of his professional life to helping governments, educational systems and businesses understand that creativity is not a fanciful luxury.
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I realised once I was out of school, where it felt like my sense of being creative was killed, that creativity was more than art. With that, my sense of what was possible opened up.
Madison Heights Sadly many never recover from the "Progressive" Lib's Godless groupthink brainwashing, then spend a lifetime chasing feelings!
@@LaurenHanson2023 w^^WESTERN
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Add Artificial Stupidity to the equation and all thinking will cease ❤
Rest In Peace dear Teacher!
Beautiful soul 😢rolling in his grave no doubt ❤😢
It is absolutely true. Teachers should be careful not to make children to convince themselves they are incapable of anything. When i was primary school, there was a sweet boy who smiles and sit quietly in the behind. But every teacher openly insulted him front of whole class because he always had bad grade on every subject. I lost contact with him for more than 2 decades, and recently heard not nice news about him. I feel deep sadness when i think what if school system was different back then... he would have been still then same sweet boy as he was back then
If you want to understand how the universe works mathematics is a useful tool. If you want to tell the girl of your dreams you love her, somehow a field equation doesn't quite do it. Poetry might do the trick though. Wonderful thought.
#yes ❤🎉
I am a 2020 graduate. I started high school in 2016. What a time to be alive...
Imagine if everyone could express their thoughts like this guy.
The British.
We'd all be fucked in the head.
Yes imagine the shy and timid persons become popular.
@@renehenriksen1735 shy and timid people are great at listening. If they can talk and listen they are twice as intelligent.
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This is just so true, when I was in 1st grade and kindergarden, my creativity was just out of the roof, My crafts were so pretty and creative, i was always doing something that my parents would be so proud of! I would always make some tiny ass detailed as hell stuff, now I don’t have any ideas, why? Because of school, in 1st to 2nd grade i was the best in class, my projects were amazing, did all my homework because it was fun, and my texts were so interesting and had so many creative subjectives + adjectives or something english isnt my first language, Tbh, I really became dumber after 2nd grade, i know a lot of stuff now, but i still feel like I was smarter in school then now. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO MY TED TALK
I hated school. There were a few good classes and teachers, but not enough to outweigh the bad. The lack of empathy in the US school system I have experienced is abhorrent. These are just a few examples from my own personal experiences.
1. I was coerced into taking ADHD medication (that gave me migraines) for several months before I graduated. (Which also contributed to when I got flu-like sickness, (puking, fever, etc.) every month if not every two weeks (that lasted 2 days to 2 weeks) that 'mysteriously' went away after I left school.) (Edit: I am still chronically ill, but he major worst symptoms are less now that I am not actively getting traumatized and have meds for anxiety and physical health issues. No official diagnosis yet for physical, bar suspicions of endometriosis and an auto immune issue. I was diagnosed last year with School-related-PTSD. This is alongside regular PTSD and C-PTSD.)
2. I was denied credit for a whole semester because of my absences (due to being legitimately sick and not going to the building according to their own policy, which was that you must be fever free for 24 hours. AND, I had all A's and B's, and one F that I had already planned to make up.)
3. Over and over again they forced or tried to force me to quit classes I loved (Orchestra, metalworking, and geoscience) because I 'needed' to take more maths and science. (I do love maths and science, but I HATED the way they taught it.) Though I think they forced it so hard because I am a woman. (Edit: I am female and bigender, a form of non-binary, did not come out and realize it till post HS, so for the sake of this, I am a woman, but in general, meh. Point still stands tho, any femme or female person gets pushed into STEM aggressively.)
4. I was compared to my older siblings by teachers who said, "I expect the same or better from you because you are a (family name)." despite having their own children WHO WERE FRIENDS WITH MY SIBLINGS. (People are all different. How can you say you think to expect me to be like a carbon copy when you have kids of your own who are all different???) (Edit: This was before I was diagnosed with a maths disability and a reading disability at the age of 20. Not one teacher thought to suggest it, despite my problems and need for tutors constantly.)
5. They disregarded my concerns over bullying and actual criminal activity going on during school hours in school. (Sex crimes, bomb threats, hate crimes, racial stuff, etc.)
6. They promised me accommodations to be in this hell of an environment, and then never followed through. (The only way I passed was with the overwhelming support from my family.) Not to mention, a refusal to correct confusing instructions. (Not even my father, who has been a lawyer for over 30 years, could understand them.)
These are just a few stories of the hell I experienced in school, mostly in high school. There are plenty more I have, but I don't think I need to drown you in negativity. This should be enough to show that there are problems.
You've articulated your position well in this chat forum. Proving the point our passions are misdirected by the traditional learning institutions. Cheers mate
It's criminal that you went through that, and I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing your story, for there is way, way too much magical thinking about conventional schooling. The vast majority of kids hate school because they experience it as prison, and no one's happy in prison. Keep on telling your truth. People need to hear it!
Huge problems now 😢😢😢😢😢awwww God bless you beautiful ❤sending infinite strength and virtual hugs your way❤
@@infiniteinspiration1628 Thank you. 💚 It’s been trying, but things are much better now with ongoing therapy with a wonderful disabled and neurodivergent affirming and intelligence module therapist, more mental diagnosis and meds (for anxiety), and an official diagnosis of “School-Related-PTSD”.
College is def a lot easier to handle since I can do so in small bits at a time at a community college, and with a wonderful disability office that actually is kind and not just there to protect admin, and I’ve made a lot of strides in recent years. Overall doing a lot better and finally starting to get into life and work through the trauma.
he is one of my heroes!!!! thank you Sir Ken Robinson!!!!
Don't flick your bean too soon, sweetheart.
Hero worship is intrinsically repulsive and all too common. If you are unable to offer a worthwhile critique of my original comment above, instead of passing over it to find something you can whine about, then I would recommend you remain in bed, until you draw your last breath. You have made no attempt to further discourse on this subject.
Furthermore, had you heard my comment in the context of a film script, which you paid to watch, you would have spurted out the same artificial laugh as the rest of the audience. Remember, you, yourself, are the product of a failed education system, therefore lacking the cognitive tools to offer anything of actual significance about such a comment.
In all probability, your statement, like you, are devoid of value. You should (as one offering criticism) have the wherewithal to recognize that, in your current state, are incapable of making any intelligent statement whatsoever on this subject, and I doubt any other subject.
pseudo-intellectual nonsense at its finest
Middle class dullard. Idiot. Explain pseudo-intellectual, then explain what precisely how it relates to what you read and how you managed to derive that from my comment. There is ore than one way to impose freedom of expression and the kind of comment you offer is one of them. A poor attempt to embarrass. If you had the faculties, you would be ashamed of yourself.
The above, is as diplomatic is the reality of world affairs will permit. One of the most persistent and odious diseases in the history of this planet is hero worship. It is in its own right a religion for the obscene, for the great unwashed and intellectually infirm.
Should there be a judgement day, the middle lass worlds mediocrity will be the first and easiest to assign to the nasty place.
You, yourself )and I have encountered many like you) use as your first line of defense, name calling and when you are fail to defend yourselves with reasoned dialogue you cry "I;m offended.
Do not be in any doubt that you personally are the cause of every ill on the planet. I could give a detailed expatiation why that Is the case but it would be lost on your stunningly low level cognitive capability.
For example?
Wonderful speaker and cheeky enough to keep a person similing and laughing, while at the same time preventing the creeping plague of a.d.d.
Thank you, Sir Ken, for your incredible sense of humor, but more importantly, your astonishing "spot on" and candid remarks about the fact that I believe in as well: Schools DO KILL Creativity!
Yooooo this man is real wise hopefully his speech can change the view of those who is running 🏃 the world
Ancient Poet>> We all want that. Unfortunately people in power are assholes who doesn´t give a damn about anything else than money, numbers and insane politics.
René Henriksen Because that’s what adults value in a good leader. The only thing they every tried to do was make ‘healthier school lunches’ which only made it even worse.
@@kittykat4570 Well then these adults and the leaders are psychopaths. So society values psychopathy or what? Makes one wonder who are the worst. The adults or the kids.
René Henriksen Well no, they aren’t literal psychopaths. It’s just a topic that isn’t usually brought up or questioned.
Nothing changes starting from someone comfortable with the existing system.
let kids make a wrong decision. You are damn right. I totally agree.
robertdzm hmmmmm
It really depends on what your definition of "wrong decision" is. If we are talking about your child committing murder or doing heroin, then no don't let them make that wrong decision. But if we are talking about your child wanting to major art instead of business, then no that's not a wrong decision. Maybe it's a bad decision in your opinion. Even if it turned out bad, the kid should still learn to make their own decisions and learn from failures. Every successful people on this earth has failed and made bad decisions at some point in their life, just that you don't know it.
I honestly learned a lot more from failing
Imagine 1st I love art but art school is useless unless you want to become a animator for like Disney, which barely pays anything.
Brilliant talk. Sir Ken Robinson is an intellectual giant in education and creativity. I'm glad that I've seen one of his TED talks and this channel.
Yes . pure intellectualism. Any value ?
What a masterpiece!!! god, what a sharp brain, just unbelievable he is gone...
An excellent talk and so relevant to our age and the current generation. The "education" we receive is so outdated and must be reformed in order to deal with the modern world.
But we have to be very careful NOT!!! to throw the "baby out with the bath water" we need to focus 2020 sharp on where we have been to inform and guide us to understand and plan how BEST to deal with the modern world and not fly off the rails!
Oh yes our education needs more of these things called mass migration, gender mainstreaming and climate politics which in the end will have all humanity incarcerated into a one world prison without the option get out alive and secondly without a foreign power who could come to save those, who don't want to live a slave life. The only way to escape will be in a coffin. What a beautiful future. A future where it will be to late once you grasped it's diabolic prison nature.
Intellectualism drivel. " you need mathematics " he says. He flunked math.
Just because someone may not understand something doesn’t mean they don’t understand the necessity of that thing
This is as relevant as it's brilliant. I will listen to this twice.
Thank you so much for uploading this!
I think the reason why school kills creativity is because school teaches you to doubt yourself. When you score low on a test that you won't remember in a week, it undermines your self-trust. And so you are hesitant to try anything new, because you're afraid it won't be any good.
A brilliant, masterful,orator and educator.
What's truly staggering is that in some respects some of our most destuigished educational institutions are turning out lunatics.
Witty Educator Ken Robinson made me laugh, thought, learned etc.
Great talk, Mr. Robinson said what I have always thought. That education tries and succeeds in making little robots of us. Teaching nothing that will help & enhance our lives as we try to reach our artificail goals or careers that we have been brainwashed into believing. I think we need a change in attitude. I mean; Worship knowledge with all it's benefits instead of wasting our lives with worshiping...entertainment, money & power. With this selfish attitude we certainly miss out on what I believe could be an interesting & yes & happier life . Too many people in their old age....regret not doing the things that would have made them happy. It's sad.
one of the speakers who motivated me to do start businesses in edtech
wanna share your thoughts? Glad to hear ur edtech business.
@@qiyou3983 my area of interest is intelligent tutoring systems
Here is my input: I think we absolutely must take people like Sir Ken Robinson seriously. We face very sobering times now. It's 2018 and there are so many challenges to face. I need not list them; we know them. I can do two things after giving thought to what I've heard. I can review the ways that education failed me and my son. I also want to look at ways I can encourage my local schools to implement a program that focuses on the individual, that nurtures the specific talents of each child or youth, and helps each one to acquire skills within those possibilities. I was born and raised in California, USA. I am not just concerned about my country; I am concerned about our little planet, our precious earth. Just saying...
Sharon Aldrich The Prussian Education system. Look it up?
He is a dangerous Lefty. Leftyism kills creativity.
Our public school system in the U.S. is one-size-fits-all because that approach is labor-intensive, and that suits adults. It was also sold out, starting in the 1960s, to the Educational-Industrial Complex in the form of Pearson and the big publishers of the brain-dead curricula that kids are subjected to all day. All of this is good for adults, while kids' needs don't even get on the radar, though the rhetoric is all about them. The system we have simply cannot be made to trust children or offer individualized education; only schools that practice self-directed education, such as Sudbury schools, can do that. Our system is controlled by politicians, and they will never humanize the system. The only solution is to tear it down and start from scratch, which can only be done if you get politicians out of the project, which won't happen.
A thought that should be spread to all Ministers of Education, parents and teachers worldwide
Best believe
He is so funny but very clever and wise. Thanks
Wonderful presentation with lots of insights and lessons for life.
What was useful. ?
Most schools concentrate on Maths and science
related subjects. I was always pretty awful at maths,
and because of that my career prospects were limited.
I don't know if things have changed, but it used to be
that if you wanted to go to university, you had to have
A levels in at least Maths and English or a science
subject. No matter what subject you wanted to study.
And they should.
We donot appear in totality at one moment. Our mind and body is the stuff of the stares. We move from E energy from a field of a field of Infinite Possibilities.
We appear here on this rock according to a way that our Adam Structure forms driven by by random experiences. Therefore we represent a field of infinite possibilities.
This is what we call the experience of life.
How we each express what we see is our version of reality. EXPERIENCES are not Good. Or Bad right or wrong.
Experiences are Realitive to our view but they are also REALITIVE TO BALANCE OR IMBALANCE.
WHATVIS AN ANGREED UP CHOICE OF BALANCE AND IMBALANCE?
TO MY FIELD OF BALANCE I WOULD SAY WHAT EXTENDS OUR REALIZATION OF A MUTUAL EXPERRNCE OF SEEKING MUTUAL APPRECIATION OF ALL Caios to a form or harmony of the behavior of our form of behavior.
We must apply our compilation of protoplasm to Appreciation. Grayitude, of the actions of infinite possibilities without choosing imbalance as we observe all possibilities.
We must strive for realization and appreciation of all and choose the best most suitable way of walking A WAY OF BALANCE AND SUPPORT OF ALL
WE MUST SEE ALL CHAOS AND EXPRESSION OF POSSIBILITY AS OUR OPTIONS BUT WE CHOOSE SUPPORT OF OUR REALITY
Absolutely true what Sir Ken Robinson contends that there is a crisis of human resources. There are so many reasons.One of them is that schools that are supposed to bring out not only the best talents but to help children connect with their own potential are actually killing the very potential so what to talk of bringing out the talents. Too much of digital technology in schools is one of another reasons how schools are killing creativity.
Excellent, talk, too bad so few people have seen. We need to share these types of talks more often. Aim high and succeed!
i'm so moved by his idea. Thanks Sir Ken
Watch your language as this id the expression of creation. E.G. when we say sir we bestow a level titel of super human power of .... we may be bestowing power that is or is not deserved.
Our models of God is BOTHERING AND YANG.
Solomon represents WISDOM,.wisdom is aware of both. We must choose for the greater good..
A path of greater experience. We must imagine both the future development of awareness.
Who are We.
We are in the Present but we are also the PAST AND WE ARE THE FUTURE.
WE ARE ALL ASPECTS OF ALL OF TIME.
WE CHOOSE TO CREATE THE PAST AND THE FUTURE AT THE SAME MOMENT
The lowest common denominator is always the best choice because It see it from the lowest point and understand from the highest point
Congratulations! I think the same thing. A misjudgment by the parents or by the school can ruin a person's entire goal and carreer. We certainly have several talents in all areas of knowledge that are eclipsed and will never be discovered, unfurtunately...
I like this guy, good sense of humour.
Yeah his delivery is too dry for the audience though lol. They're just not getting it. Very British humour
A comedian but not a Right winger.
1,150 kids..... Love this
What a legendary cameraman. Those unnecessary zoom ins.
Amazing speaker with an important message.
THANK YOU SIR ...!!!
What I hated was show your working out I do it in my head I a different way a spent over half my time rewriting it there way its stupid I agree with most of what this dude says good leck
And I do not think I am not intelligent alt all...but I found out-now that I' in my sixties-that I found myself capable of innovation.
Jeez, what a crowd.
Why do we have to do things we don't want to do to get what we want?
Gosh I can listen to him daily! Nothing will change until the corporation is banned. Ken you are spot on about Industrial but corporates rule and they determine what graduates and populations they want.
Leftyism is suicide.
Thank you Very Much.
Thanks for the share Robbo...
Thanks..wish more people thought..like u when i was growing up..with ..adhd...thanks change needs to come..free thinking and moving..should be a human right but government steal that away most of the time..and if u dont fit in..they say u need a doctor or a jail cell...im a product of this way of thinking..sad but ive feel like surgery that ive been awake the hole time...✌
Yes
Jobs also kill creativity. So when do we actually get to be creative.
46:00
Any highly organized society is predicated on having a power structure which doesn't allow you to reject the question. They draw a hard line, to which you may refine the design.
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@@spudwesth !!!!!
Interesting to note that a lot of 17 - 25 yr olds cannot tell the time from a clock. Amazing !!
The time shows up on their phones
Tough crowd, I wish more people laughed because he was pretty funny.
The Queen had the sense to Knight him.
He is very very very very very very very creative.
Creativity is all the more urgent because AI and computers will take over many jobs soon, leaving uncreative adults redundant in the workplace.
There are plenty of opportunities to develop creativity. Schools are to educate and prepare children to learn how to be a successful member of society. I believe what you are describing is cognitive thinking skills.
Is an 'A' grade student 'intelligent', or just a very adept copyist? A wonderful box-ticker? Very good at doing as s/he is told? Trying to please their parents? Desperate to be seen as 'superior'? Thinking only about the rewards for ticking the reward givers boxes in the order the reward giver wants them ticked? Subservient through apathy and/or greed?
More importantly, would a true intelligence not allow itself a margin of error, just to avoid these possible self-destructive pitfalls? Or at least consider their possibility?
Look up the Tavistock institution...
Admirable your marvelous insights and intention targeting a matter of utmost in any society...Regretfully Education nowadays and since the '50s is intentionally and systematically programmed for conformity, annulling creativity and free-thinkers....we know per example of suppression of art, philosophy, physical education programs disappear due to financial shortage, and in top of that the teacher's standard of living is insufficient...we need a parent movement to achieve some miracles if we envision a dignified future for our kids
The problem is the design of the system, not underfunding. We spend huge amounts of money on K-12 in the U.S., more than all but one or two countries. The problems are that it's not spent on the right things and that the system is not set up to trust children. A system that doesn't trust children is a prison, and children hate prison, just like adults too.
My music teacher used to lock me in the broom closet everyday.
People what he is describing already exist: it is the Finnish educational model. Why isn't the world implementing it? It was implemented already in very expensive private schools and in small expensive colleges already. The poor districts cannot afford this kind of teaching. That is the reason.
39:29 Unless you're trying to serenade said professor of course
Thank you Sir.
Get over it make the call! I like you. Gina in lights
Talking about education: In my country, Italy, the less educated and qualified people run the country, many among them are mafiosi; whereas the most educated people, most of the time, have the worse job positions and are honest.
Amazing!!!
Oklahoma public schools gave me 5 years of 8th thru 12th grade DRAFTING & a 4 year BSMEin design so when I got to RocketDyne in 1964 I was able to CREATE design of an Impulse Load Cell used to CALIBRATE Apollo Moon Lander thrusters OR no one was going to the moon> Neil proved it out in 1965 on Gemini to become 1st man to DOCK IN SPACE & that was KEY to a successful moon landing> So much for lack of creativity, b/c OKLAHOMA school system taught me how to WORK
A paragon of the chattering classes
When the lady put her hand at 10 for intelligence he messed up by shaming her and ridiculing her (unless I am missing something) in the middle of everyone...he got laughs and claps...he told her that she could go. That woman should have been applauded for having the confidence to own her creative intelligence and stand in it...this is a problem in culture. He got no 9's, that I could tell, 8's, 7's, 6's or 5's - that I could tell - and no wonder AFTER what he did TO this woman. He said, "Oh, come on..." when we wasn't getting any hands. Who would want to RISK going through that kind of humiliation - okay, now that I have said this, I want to say that what's missing here is a kind of systematic ignorance of Emotional Intelligence - a mutual supporting of each other and celebrating our accomplishments, and this includes in self-awareness and self-esteem. I stand with the woman who said she was 10 and for the courage it took for her to raise her hand...it was kind of a celebration and he goofed on it. The whole mood in the room, and on the video, changed.
We can do better - creativity, intelligence and awareness.
Aren’t parents there to foster individuality? Schools are there to engage children in learning, select the ones that mostly developed the skills of unmotivated learning, ‘learning yellow pages backwards’, being able to learn the uninteresting, like judges, lawyers, doctors, or any other high level professional has to. The rest are basically people who can be useful to society with barely being able to spell. The school system works. The parents need to add the extras if they want their children to have the luxury of individuality. The entire concept has only been existence since the Second World War. Before that you were a banker, a teacher, you stayed a banker, teacher for 30 years and retired into a small cottage in Devon.
13:31 extinction of species, calcification & acidity of our oceans, etc
Fantastic and in depth concepts, educating creatively very empowering and funny... Need a better video or camera person...
For some that is probably true, the really creative people
RIP MR.KEN ROBINSON !
Rip
@23:30 Privileged adjective 1 favored, advantaged, special, indulgent, sanctioned, authorized, immune, excepted, exempt, elite, honored, ruling, powerful, rich, wealthy; Sir Ken, What your son majored in was the least determining factor in his success.
An overvaccinated child leaves the ticky-tacky factory.
@@spudwesth No Spud Bud. No Ticky-Tacky Spud Bud. Sir Ken say expensive elite not Ticky-Tacky. Philosopher son make $xxx,xxx.00. See?
@@cmoremac No one studies Philosophy any more. The ability to think is rarely sought after in universities. High IQ and familial cohesion equals success.
17:12 Problem of education keeping people off balance.
As ever - a great talk. The cameraman really know how to frame the 'subject', a great job, however I don't think he could speak English (and I can't speak Norwegian either) so he had no idea when to zoom out to capture the graphics that were being displayed. Sorry but for me, this was a bit distracting as it did have relevance. On more relevant point to the talk - I never revised for my exams and in further education decided after years of study not to sit the exam. Why? Because I didn't need a piece of paper to say I had been educated . . . I just relied on what I had to say (and with confidence and belief and . . . yes, with creativity) why they needed me to come and work for them. The same applied to running my own Design Agency for 30 years.
Goodness, what a stodgy audience Sir Ken Robinson had for this talk! I just listened to a different talk Sir Ken gave, where the audience was relaxed and responsive and laughing freely at every funny thing Sir Ken said. But this audience -- ouch! He's saying funny things all over the place and rarely gets even a little bit of laughter. Who were these people?!
If the audience are not natural Anglophones , then his humour may go over their heads
Belling the cat every body discusses in a fantastic way .. .. How to bell is left out !
What the hell are on about m8 ? Did they crack up the 5g juice in your neighborhood ? Poor you :/
Your wise
R.i.p
IT WOULD BE SO EASY TO TEACH KIDS TO BE LEADERS OF ANY COUNTRY. ALL WE WOULD
HAVE TO DO, IS TEACH THEM HOW TO LIE. CHEAT AND STEAL FROM THEIR FELLOW MAN.
"According to this map, people start losing interest round about Oklahoma"
56:11
The topic begins at the 15-minute mark
Starts at 17:30
Excellent camera man. Love those unnecessary zooms
Be creative. Break Things.
Me too, I am insanely creative, though not as bad as DaVinci....
1:01:30. We're there now: machine learning.
Finally
I'm just relieved the cameraman didn't have a macro lens
what book is he talking about, please?
he released a book, if you google him, it should provide an awesome list of his publications. he has many
It’s the parents’ job to keep it alive, not the tax payers
I just wonder, when did he realized that school kill creativity because he sent his son to college.
there are some logical errors in your statement , you think you can identify, at least one of them ?...or you keep to your negativity because makes you feel good?
*Magellanic* cloud
Well, I think that if schools killed creativity there would be much more creative people before schools where invented. Which is NOT the case.
But of course schools can be hugely improved, because almost anything can.
This person knows when to make people laugh and he prepared his speech carefully. Did someone figure out his this talent except being a critic of the existing education system? I just want to know how he got his education! I smell more to it then it looks. No offence.
If these people could describe their parameter for good teaching, this will make sense. But what they do is to move the goal posts all the time. And this is what they ask for the weakest and the most stressed out link in the whole of the educational business: teachers!. People please don't get deceived. These lords are only interested in the business side of educational business.
this guy doesnt get that cloimate change is for corporations to make money. Not help the resources survive.
Not a single proposition has he made . Just a stand up comedy guy .
Being at odds is the fad nowadays. Nothing is going to change. Kids will go to school; the parent will pay heft fees. No offence.