CONCRETE PORCH WITH DECK PANS, Mike Haduck
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2013
- Mike Haduck shows his style of building a concrete porch, showing footer, block work, deck pans, concrete, cellar door and stucco. All my videos are my ways and ideas, I always suggest anyone doing any type of work to consult outside professional help.
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Mr. Haduck you’re an artist, engineer, architect- your work is a thing of beauty. I wish I could hire you to build an entire house.
Thanks Carefree, I appreciate it, mike
WHY DID I WATCH THE WHOLE THING I DON"T NEED A DECK !!!! AWESOME JOB !!!
thanks, I appreciate it. mike
Same here lmfao
He's so interesting to watch ! It's awesome
Thank You Mike, you are a true craftsman and I've learned in every video of yours. Thank You
That was an amazing job! Mike, you are a joy to watch in action!
“Hides all my sins, it’s gonna be underground anyway” mark of a true tradesman. Great work, very informative video.
Thanks Matthew, mike
Mike,
I'm eternally grateful for your words and methods.
Thanks Mike
I really enjoy watching your videos. The thing I probably enjoy the most is your "Old School" approach to everything and the work ethic you display. I've done a couple projects where in the middle I've thought to myself, "What would Mike Haduck say?" (By the way, the answer is usually wet it down first or add a little portland to it). Thanks for being a Craftsman who doesn't mind sharing your profession.
I appreciate that, I am just passing along what others taught me, I think it is a God thing, He puts you where he wants you to be, So I am glad to pass it along, a little bit iffy at times but I try to say the way it is, thanks mike
Mike Haduck great!
You’re a BEAST!!!!!! Very, very experienced!!!!🤙🏼💪🏼 thank you for your tips!!!!
Thanks William, Mike
I love Mike Haduck he's the best carpenter, bar none.
as always be blessed
well I hope God will bless us all, thanks mike
You’re a true craftsman. Thanks for sharing, I appreciate your efforts taken to produce video
Thanks, I appreciate it, Mike
Simple practical explaination. Two thumbs up from this engineer. (also appreciated the moonshine jug at the end)
thanks, I appreciate it, mike
very honest and 'matter of fact' and extremely entertaining , thank you
thanks Mike, I hope so, mike
Lot of hard work Mike!!! Thanks for the video!
Thanks Jesse, mike
That looks amazing. Wish more people would have a cellar. Our great aunt who lives in the Midwest has an old cellar.... Was extremely musky but kept everything she stored in great condition. She put her canned goods in her cellar.
Can't say enough good. Looks amazing. My husband and I enjoy historical homes, buildings excetra. One of your best videos 👌. God bless 🙏
Thanks again lizza, yep I remember the old root cellars, thanks Mike
This video was awesome!
Thanks Douglas, Mike
Nice work. And , as always, very informative & easy to follow.
Thanks for sharing your experience & knowledge with us.
Rick
Thanks, Mike
I really like this guy. Straight forward
Thanks Mellonee, I appreciate it, Mike
i love your videos, you do a great job explaining how and why.
thanks lonnie, mike
You are the man ! Thanks for the information.
Thanks, L DR, I appreciate it, mike
Great job Mike - thanks for sharing -
Thanks Jack, Mike
That is a very nice job Mike.
lot of old school but it works, thanks mike
Learn a lot every time, thanks.
thanks James, I appreciate it. mike
Excellent. Very helpful. Thanks. God bless.
GOD BLESS, Mike
DANG! ---> That sure is a big bottle of hooch!
Very informative....you now have one more subscriber,
Thanks,
Sam
Mike,
Nice touch with the moon-shine bottle at the end . . .
Your videos and your dialogue are really special they warm my heart.
You speak like a real man. Something in the trades has been lost and turned into corporate bologna in Bologna doesn't hold up a building or a porch very well.
I've got archinect architect arguing with the Mason about sealing the window and the Mason is saying no you have to have a a repo and the flashing a certain way and the architect is arguing with him and then finally the old school project manager says do it the way the Mason said
Hi Monica, I hear you, Mike
Mike I really enjoy watching your videos we have a home that's over a hundred years old and that is exactly what I have is a stone foundation it's all small stones and it's all falling apart I'm going to take your advice and repair it. Thank you very much for your wisdom and also for sharing what you have learned over the years.
Thanks Mark, Mike
I love your videos. I watched the whole thing, even though, I don't have a house with a raised porch where I could build this. It's just a great video with so much knowledge.
Thanks Becky, I’ll bet you have some great skills you’ve been hiding I appreciate the kind words thanks Mike
Awesome job Mr Mike
Thanks Dick, I appreciate it, mike
Hi Mike, I have watched your video about 3 or 4 times, I want to build a concrete slab with deck pans also, I hope I can. Finally, I just want to say that it was a great video and that I enjoyed your explanation of how and why you do things. Thanks for your time.
Thanks Lilana, mike
great job. you remind me of my uncle bill. even right down to the saw. he was a great mason. he could do anything. im a tile guy, and i have great respect for guys like you.cheers!
Thanks Matthew, mike
"Coat of plaster...hides all my sins!" That was hilarious! Excellent tip on edging down the slab to prevent water issues down the road. Keep up the great videos, Mike. All the best, John.
thanks John, I appreciate it. mike
Very nicely done.
thanks LoveBear, I appreciate it. mike
I am not a builder but I really enjoyed your video. I felt like you were informative and very detailed. I also loved your comment about how to figure out some thing that is hard go ask the laziest person.
Thanks Monique, mike
Mike - you are a Pro !!!
Hi Robert, just passing along what the old times taught me, I appreciate it. thanks mike
Great vid.
As an engineer, I agree with you about asking the laziest guy for advice, good advice. BTW I never do concrete work, but I still enjoy your videos.
Thanks A , I appreciate it, mike
Very nice! Good job !
thanks elenakurus, I appreciate it. mike
I love this guy fun to watch
thanks Kelly, I appreciate it. mike
Beautiful work, sir. Take care,
Thanks Jim, I appreciate it, mike
Tanks Mike.
thanks Sonny , I appreciate it. mike
Beautiful finish.)
thanks mike
thanks for the comment. mike
Great explanation mike there’s always a reason we do things how we do them because it’s different everywhere you go most people do what they were taught without asking themselves why they are doing it that specific way
Thanks, Mike
Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing your videos. God bless 🙏
Thanks lizza, God bless, Mike
Great video! I hope to do something just like this over the summer to replace a old wood porch. With lumber prices up I think it might even save me some money!
I had not seen the deck pans before, they look a lot better than just using a form to pour that floor.
Thanks James, mike
Nice work!
thanks Blaine, I appreicate it. mike
Very nice/cool job, thank you for posting I gave it a like, and thanks for “passing it along” have a good one!
Thanks Len, Mike
Thanks for the video, Mike! I’m wanting to rip out an old wooden deck and go with concrete. I’m thinking doing something similar to this, in the south, could double as a storm shelter/hiding hole.
Hi J. I get it, thanks, Mike
Dont know how I didn't see this one before like you I was taught to slope off the edge of the footings people think I'm mad when I say it now great video mike
Thanks mark, Mike
Well done.
hi mille, thanks I appreciate it. mike
What a great job. You are so knowledgeable Mike. You do everything that makes it look so easy. You don't skip steps, Do you have some more where I can go and ask a question
Thanks Stephen, mike
Nice Job Mike. As long as the building inspector know his salt and isn't stuck on his way or no way.
I am up in Binghamton NY and the same forecast everyday is above freezing in day and freezing at night. You also have the 4-months where the sun goes to Florida and leaves the clouds to camouflage the fact that he's on vacation.
Thanks Amish Built, sounds right to me, thanks, mike
I could never recommend what to do unless I actually seen it. I would check with the locals about what is right for your area. I appreciate the comment thanks mike
As a southeastern Pennsylvanian tradesman, I can tell you know just what you're doing...:)...I rarely see guys on videos pull up rebar with the rake, like we do...You're a hard worker...That'll keep you young...
Thanks, I appreciate hearing that from a pro, Mike
@@MikeHaduck Mason work is the bull work in the industry...I worked with union guys and old school italian stone and cement guys and Irish and italian Block and Bricklayers...I learned tons of tricks of the trades...
I still run a remodeling company to this day in philly...Started in the 80's...:)...I look back and smile on all the characters I've known...God rest some of their souls...We're a dying breed my friend...Too many of These kids today don't want to work that hard...
well said, thanks, mike
How did I miss this epic vid .... Hope someday you find time to republish some of these earlier vids with new commentary as you review these earlier projects too. Soo much great content on your channel that newer subscribers might not have seen. Hope you have a marvelous weekend!
Hi Thor, yep there is some older ones, I was doing bigger jobs then, thanks Mike
Nice!!!
Thanks Sigh, Mike
That's a lot of work.
Hi albert, yes it was, no more of them for me. lol, thanks mike
Sweet video! I'm so glad I subscribed, this video has a ton of answers to some questions I had around building a porch. But, it also created a few questions. Maybe it's just my lack of knowledge on your profession, but how were the steal beams installed? 7:36 , are they just sitting on a row of block below, or are they attached?
Great job but so far the biggest job I've watched you do. I just finished tuck pointing my chimney. It is veneer stone over block. My problem was that I could not find a sand that matched what was used in 1946. Maybe they called it Mica sand 65 years ago??? I did find a mortar that was a good color match. You vids are very helpful.
Thanks Bob, yes it might be that ,silica sand or they sometimes call sea sand, not many people using it now, a lot of cements are getting pre packaged with the sand in it , thanks mike
Mike this video seems to cover a really rare topic! Thanks so much for putting it together. Where do you purchase the deck pans? They don't seem to be a common item (for normal DIY type people I mean!)
Hi David, I usually get them at a masonry supply yard or usually they also have them at metal scrap yards, I would call around, thanks, Mike
Mucho good info crammed into about as short a vid as can be. Is he parking oil tankers on that thing? I appreciate you detailing the tricks to accommodate and allow expansion vs trying to restrain it.
Thanks 65, Mike
How far can I span wit those deck pans? I have a slab that is about 8.5 feet long x 1.5" wide, with no support between the sides. The concrete will be 4" thick to match the existing slab. Do you think those deck pans will support the concrete until it cures?
Thanks. Great video
I was wondering if anybody would catch that, LOL. mike
Hi Mike, your videos are awesome! Any advice on product to use on a concrete patio that's over a garage? Leaking into garage at seams and thru stone. They used Waterstop, then Recrete, then Overcrete and it's melting off and still puddling in spots 😢.Please advise 🙏🏽
Hi Roshe, it's impossible to advise, in our area sealers could be slippery, and if there is no roof over the patio the weather will get to it eventually, I hope it helps, Mike
Mke,, To start with, you are my hero. I can't think of anyone i'd rather have a beer with.. You are an amazing person and any time i see a video of yours im going to watch it no matter what it is. It just so happens im planning to do a 36" cement floor and this video showed me how. I'd rather not make a cement base so im planning columns. I suppose my question to you is.. If im not going to have a solid foundation how far should my columns be on a 10x40' floor?
Also how many expansion joints would you create? Kindly Michael
Thanks Michael, I appreciate it, that's a hard question to answered, they got so many codes and inspections involved you got to ask them what is acceptable in your area, thanks Mike
Great video. I have this setup and you can see from the basement the deck pans are rusting. How do I fix this without ripping off the entire porch? It's only about a 1x2 ft area that is really rusted. The rest is fine.
Hi John, in my opinion the deck pans are there to hold the wet concrete until it dries, then most the time they have no purpose , if it's in a wet environment of course they are going to rust, but that's not what is holding the concrete up, oldtimers used wood, if that makes sense, thanks mike thanks Mike
In East Tennessee we call "sash" blocks "jam" blocks
Thanks Mike,Mike
How much slope do you have on that concrete roof? Thanks for great content.
Hi Fred , I forget but I usually go 2 to 3 percent , I don't want water laying on it. Thanks mike
Im planning to do a masonry 8' x 26' porch addition with footer and block foundation. I want to be able to enclose a 8' x 10' section in the future for a mud/laundry room addition so the wife don't have to go down basement stair to do the wash. Im unsure how to have a craw space in this area to be able to run plumbing, electric, and HVAC, and was thinking I could do something similar to what you did here, or should I stub in plumbing, HVAC duct, electric conduit, and pour the concrete over it?
Hi Edward ,check out video , footer & block crawl space ( mike haduck), that might help, Mike
excellent...
Also, do you have a DIY vid for making the moonshine?
Hi mark, I can not say, I was told to keep it quiet, lol, thanks mike
Hi Mike. I have a couple questions if you get time. I noticed no rebar over deck pan; just wire. Is there no need for rebar above the deck pan? How thick did you pour the deck and how long did you wait before removing the forms? Also, what are you parging the block with? Mortar? Thank you in advance for any answers.
Hi Mark, the deck was supported with steel beams and the deck pans act as a support also, the wire holds it together. I take the forms off the next day, and I got lots of videos on how I parge and repair foundations, all my techniques are basically the same, I hope it helps, thanks mike
I really became inspired through this video. Hubby wanted a hollow porch I wanted a porch with concrete floor. It works. You didnt go into any detail on how to attach the steel beams that hold the pans. What would the best way to do that?
Hi, they just sit atop nothing cemented in for expansion but we dont get earthquakes, mike
@@MikeHaduck thank you for taking the time to answer. I just got 2 more questions. 1 can you please give me the specs and type of steel (i Beams or tube thickness width etc) and 2. how far apart do you space them?
Mike, why do block foundations have a solid “cap” on them. My home has it. I’ve seen other homes of similar vintage (1950’s) that do not have top caps. Also another question: my aunts house has a 12” block foundation besides the last 4 courses which is 8” block. You can actually look inside the 12 in block from the basement where it ends. What is the reason behind these two things? Thanks Mike!
Hi Greg, usually they used caps on top as a termite barrier, And something more solid to lay the wood plate on, Some times they stepped it in from 12s to 8 inch block so the plate was more accessible on the inside, easier for plumbing and wiring, and they only made 8 inch solids and they were not big enough to cover the 12 inch block, it all depended what the builder wanted at the time, Thanks, Mike
How do you prevent water getting in under the roof if the roof is free floating? Also water getting in where it meets the structure/house, on top?
Hi Roger, I can't say unless I was there, thanks Mike
One more question mike how many beams would I need for a 24’ x 8’ ?and what size beam is recommended? What thickness do you suggest the beam should be? Should o worry about the beams shifting if I don’t bolt them down? FYI I’m thinking of laying the beams 24’ by the width since theirs a wall sitting in the middle please let me know your suggestions and recommendations and thank you
Hi Mohammed, that I can't answer because its structural, and every situation is different, I usually go to the scrap metal yard and buy my beams and deck pans there, the masonry yards that sell the deck pans will tell you what the span for the beams should be to hold them up, or ask some local inspectors or check the internet for specks, I just show what I did in my situation, I hope it helps, mike
Very nice! How are the steel supports attached at their ends to the walls? Just a plate at the top and the are welded in?
Hi FMF, they just lay on top , no welding, thanks mike
If it were just a dirt crawl would you still coat the blocks?
Hi Mark, I always do, and then I am safe, thanks mike
Hi Mike, I'm curious how you built that wood form for the deck . I guess you just use masonary screws and drill into the block ? Or was that forum supported some other way ?
Hi J M, I use anything that works, mostly supported from the bottom , I do anything I can to make sure it does not move, thanks mike
How did you calculate the concrete on the corrugated decking?
Hi Eric, much the same as a patio, I make Sure I always order extra and what I don't use they take it back, Mike
Hey Mike,
This video has helped me so much, the only question I have is where do you purchase the deck pans? Thank you so much for your answer in advance!
every area has a different way of construction but usually the big builder supply companys and steel yards or scrap yards supply them, thanks mike
Mike Haduck Thank you so much for your prompt response.
Ive got a floating porch with a post on the overhang instead of on top of the block. Now the corner is cracked and drooping. How much of a footer do i need to brick the overhang flush with block wall. Its 3" wide and 2 block high.
Hi Michael, I would say it depends on where you live, in our area we have to go down 42 inches I live in northeastern Pennsylvania, so I can’t really answer that, I hope it helps thanks Mike
ive watched this video countless times and am confused. if you put those loose solids at the end of the pans and then shingled so the concrete doesn't touch them, doesn't the concrete still touch the outside bricks where it overhangs?
Hi Ash, check out my videos on " concrete stoop construction" Mike haduck, I think you will get a clearer view, thanks Mike
One more last question I promise mike. I see here you filled one of the cinder block holes with cement do I fill all holes of certain holes?
Hi Mohammed, code said that rebar every four feet apart or less, from footer to anchor bolt for foundations, it doesn't hurt to do more, inspectors usually tell you what they want, I hope it helps , mike
How long does that tar last?
What is the old school version of this? Just a double thick brick wall instead of a cement block with rebar?
Watching a lot of your videos in all one go.
Hi Sum, the old days they were all stone foundations, and still holding up, I appreciate it. mike
Have you got a video how to redo a porch cap how to hold the roof up and save the iron railing to put back
Hi, I have a playlist called Masonry porches, mike haduck, you should find bits and piece's in there, thanks Mike
Thanks 😊 Mike !!!
I have a hollow porch i have a skunk that digs a whole is there any way you can pour cement to fill the whole porch or replace the porch
Hi John, I have a series out " concrete porch stoop" Mike haduck, that might help, thanks Mike
Hey Mike enjoy watching all your videos ...I've watched so many of them. Question for you...did you need to fasten the steal beams down to the block work? And how much of the block work are the deck pans sitting on? Thanks for your videos Mike!
Hi Brian, the beams are just pocket in where they dont move but not touching so they can expand and shrink without cracking the masonry, the pans lay about 4 to 6 inches on the 12 inch block if I could remember, Mike
@@MikeHaduck thank you sir!
How did you build the ledge or lip for the beams to sit on?
Hi Jerome, the beams sat right on the previous corse of block, Thanks mike
I wanted to stay away from that because commercial jobs are different than residential and steel is a different animal. I did corbel out below the beams also and the side against the building was cemented is. but depending on the heat the beams expand and contract with temperature. got to be careful with metal combined with masonry. thanks mike
Are you saying that the concrete will crack with heating and expansion of the steel mesh? How much does the steel lattice stabilze the concrete?
Do you have the steel beams resting on the top course of block, and then cap blocks around the outside?
If I understand you right, I usually leave pockets for the beams . Everything depends on what you are doing, thanks mike
@@MikeHaduck thanks for the reply. That's very helpful. I'm actually considering doing something almost exactly like the porch in this video. Mine currently has a wood deck that is rotten, so I would like to replace it with a concrete pad. Thanks again.
Gday MIke, This is fabulous learning. Two questions if you dont mind. 1. Deck pans ....any idea of what they are called in Australia. I asked at our large hardware store and tried to describe them and they looked at me like i was talking gibberish and quickly dismissed me. 2 in another video you have steel struts that you insert into the brickwork and they come out onto the blocks to then put the deck pans across for a raised slab. What would you call those steel struts/ supports?
Hi Terry. I don't know but I would take a couple pictures of that video part and show it to them, most times we buy them at scrap or sheet metal yards, thanks mike
Hey mike it’s Mohamed again I wanted to ask is their any certain sheet metal in particular I should use since I’m pouring concrete on it?
Hi Mohammed, I would check your local masonry supply company, almost all them have it or they could tell you where to get it, I would start there, thanks mike
Hi Mike. Great video. I'm now subscribed. I have a question for you if you'd be so kind; "What gauge is the deck pan?" I am only able to find 22ga here in Chattanooga. Thanks!
Hi Trial, I really can not remember, I just know from the feel it it is right, if that makes sense, and I used enough support under not to be concerned, I hope it helps, thanks mike
Do you put the wire on the top one third? Thanks.
Hi Sidney, I do not understand the question?, thanks mike
Hi Mike!
I bought a flip house in Carbondale NEPA, the "Finished basement" had a weathered hardwood floor on rough cut floor jousts sitting on DIRT!?! No wonder the house smelled like a damp musty cellar! I gutted the room down to bare concrete walls that need patch repair similar to the foundation video you posted. I bought a cement mixer and the guys at True Value hardware store said one half a 80lb bag with two small bags of dirt they sold me. After seeing several videos on mixing cement, I'm sure I DO NOT have enough sand to add. I'm pouring in a room 16'x13' and I think 4-6" deep. Please if you could tell me.... What is the PROPER Mix of Portland Cement / Sand / Water???? Please HELP!
Howdy Joe, in every part of the country the mix is different. Old school was 1 bucket of Portland to two buckets of sand and 2 to 3 buckets of clean gravel, then just add the water till you get the right consistency, in the old days you would order 123 from the concrete company and that was the mix. I never mix it myself if it is more than a 1/4 yard.. all depends on what your looking for, I would call up the concrete company and tell them what your doing and they would usually tell you what everybody else would order. hope it helps. thanks mike
awesome!
what s holding up the steel beam mike? keep up the great work, god bless.
Hi Ray, it is into the block work and sitting on the blocks that are filled, thanks, mike
@@MikeHaduck What about the I beams? They are into the block you said, aren't you worried about expansion and contraction like you said in the video when you were standing on top of the metal. You showed where you left a gap between I beam and block.
Hi, I always leave a little around the beams for that the metal in the concrete expands the same as the pans, it is not that big to worry about, mike
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I need a float like that! Where can i buy one?
Hi Juan , usually home depot or any masonry supply company, thanks mike
Where can I find deck pans? I’ve tried the box stores and I can’t find them Anywhere?
Hi, lots of times we get them at masonry supply or metal yards, sometimes scrap yards cover them, thanks mike
You didnt show how you installed the metal beams, and you didnt show how you got the slight overhang on the concrete pad. Can you tell me how you did that?
Check out my videos, concrete stop construction, part 1 and 2, mike haduck