Fix unwanted TRX4 steering system flex - Installing metal link mounts & a homemade brace

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
  • In this TJsRC episode, we will look at how to prevent flex in the steering system in the TRX4. High power after market steering servo's are great but are you sure all that added power is getting where you want it to be. When using a high power servo there are parts in the TRX4 steering system that can flex under load from the increased torque put on them by these servo's. In this episode we will be installing metal suspension links because the track bar mounts to the axle on one of these link mounts. Switching this part to a metal one will prevent it from flexing under heavy load. I will also show you the DIY mod I made to brace the chassis side track bar mount to help prevent it from flexing also. They do make metal versions of the shock towers with the track bar mount but I didn't want to go that route yet so I made up my own solution for that spot.
    The metal link kit I installed can be found almost every where they sell RC parts. I found mine on Amazon by searching: "metal TRX4 link mounts"
    Please NOTE.
    I don't ever want you guys adding stuff or installing extra parts just because you saw it in some CZcams video. Lot's of TRX4's are out there right now driving around experiencing this issue but it's not that big of a deal unless it really bugs the driver, which it did in my case.
    If you're new to tiny truck mechanics or simply don't see the problem here. You need to understand that when your servo swings through it's range of motion, nothing else is supposed to move except the steering hub. The issue we are trying to address shows up in the TRX4 track bar mounts, which are both flexible plastic. The original servo likely isn't strong enough to cause the flexing (therefore IT IS NOT a design flaw IMO, in fact one could argue the flex is designed in ON PURPOSE so there is give, like a servo saver). However, a lot of TRX4 owners change to a much stronger servo, usually right away. These stronger servos are easily 2-4 times stronger than stock and this is where we have exceeded the design specs for the plastic track bar mounts. It may not look like they are flexing very far but it only takes a few millimeters of flex in them to loose a considerable number of degrees of throw in your servo. Especially if you are running your servo horn as short as you can, to get even more torque out of it.
    For example: I measured the total throw distance of my servo horn, it's 24mm. At that distance, every 1.2mm (that's tiny) of total flex between both plastic track bar mounts, looses you 5% of your steering throw. You can see that it doesn't take much flex to be noticeable from the drivers seat, if you know to look for it. Does this really matter if you are just out to have some fun trailing or light rock crawling with friends? No, not at all. However, once I noticed this was happening I couldn't not notice it all the time. So I felt compelled to address it (I love tinkering on these tiny trucks. Every time I see something "wrong" I'm all " woo hoo yeah, more things to do to it". Maybe that's not normal but it's me) My first attempt to address this was the home made brace that I showed you in the video. That helped to stop, that end of the track bar from moving. Unfortunately then the track bar mount on the axle began flexing even further under load since it was no longer sharing the flex between the two mounts. This then obviously led to needing to install the metal links as shown in the video. BOOM problem solved. I didn't cover these details in the video as I was thinking it would make it to long and overly boring, like this paragraph, lol. I probably should have had my chief editor (wife) look it over before I posted.
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Komentáře • 63

  • @danweiss4928
    @danweiss4928 Před 2 lety +3

    You got lots of brass in the front of that baby!!!!

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 2 lety

      yeah it has a good amount in there. It's definitely my heaviest rig.

  • @vaamorais
    @vaamorais Před 3 lety +3

    Hey, I can only say how I appreciate you finding the time to create and share great videos with very useful information. Another great tip I was not expecting could be important when upgrading to a higher torque servo.
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for the kind comment friend.👍👍

  • @laserbeam1620
    @laserbeam1620 Před 3 lety +2

    You got a subscriber because of your genuine appreciation at the end of this video.

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      Thanks my friend. 👍

  • @chucksmith155
    @chucksmith155 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video as always any time I look into doing anything to my rigs I always look you up and see if you have done it yet so Thankyou and keep your videos coming

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      Thank you for the kind words my friend 👍

  • @trevorsavoy3061
    @trevorsavoy3061 Před 2 lety +1

    Your welcome,Your welcome!! Thank you for the great videos and I hope you have a great day to,cheers

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 2 lety

      Thank you for the kind remarks. I’m glad you found the video useful. 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @kregadeth5562
    @kregadeth5562 Před 3 lety +1

    No no no no no, bro. Thank you. Thank you very much.

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      Glad you found it useful. 👍

  • @FarmerFpv
    @FarmerFpv Před rokem +1

    I've never heard it called a track bar. On real trucks its called a pan-hard bar. Track bar makes more sense. Great video.

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před rokem

      I assumed that the names were interchangeable and for some reason I always referred to them in the full size world as track bars. Not sure where I got that from. But that just the way we called it. Thanks for watching.

  • @jamesswift4641
    @jamesswift4641 Před 4 lety +1

    Happy 🦃 Day,I have a tx4, but I love the content and the videos,thank you for taking the time to make these videos😃👍👍

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety

      Thanks James. 👊 Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

  • @OffRoadLawnMowers
    @OffRoadLawnMowers Před 4 lety +2

    Great video bro👊👍💯

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks my friend. 👍

  • @jondoe6618
    @jondoe6618 Před 4 lety +1

    That is a good , easy way to do it. Great job and thanks for sharing!!

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety

      Glad you found it useful 👍👍

  • @ShadeTree_RC
    @ShadeTree_RC Před 4 lety +1

    thanks for the info i noticed the stock c hubs have quite the flex too

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety +1

      Chuck Hall I didn't keep the stock C hubs very long before switching to all brass up front so I don't remember if I ever noticed that.

    • @ShadeTree_RC
      @ShadeTree_RC Před 4 lety

      @@TJsRC me either until installing the brass portals then it became noticeable

  • @rctrailcats3492
    @rctrailcats3492 Před 4 lety +1

    Great tip! I'm about to change servos in mine.

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety

      Cool man, what servo are you upgrading to? Are you coming from the stock servo or replacing something else?

    • @rctrailcats3492
      @rctrailcats3492 Před 4 lety +1

      @@TJsRC Yes stock servo. I use the Savox 0231 in most of my builds. 39 bucks and water proof. I think the torque is around 206.

    • @rcpayne6416
      @rcpayne6416 Před 3 lety

      Good job man, and you bet, everyday I'm happy and thankful for life! I run the platform of stock, but I like your homemade brace, good job of explaining. Have a great day!!!

  • @bikerunner-ry1ju
    @bikerunner-ry1ju Před 3 lety +1

    Nice mod
    Thank you very much!

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      bikerunner1909 Glad you enjoyed it 👍

  • @angryyank
    @angryyank Před 3 lety +1

    Appreciate the tips on the TRX-4 truck there brotha.... I have NEVER owned a traxxas until now and it was the TRX-4 TRAXX Ver. 2 and I love it!!! I waited till now to grab one because I heard through the grapevine some folks complained enough about the tread on them that traxxass R&D went hard at work in the factory making deeper & better tread belts for them, Waited and got it now.... Its a wonderful rig but man it does get a bit of flex even more then regular tires...... Your tips & tricks will sure helpout my rig & I subbed you in gratitude.... ALL of us RC modelers need to stick together show the YT world we are the elite community!!!! Cheers

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      Angry Yank RC Don't have any experience with the Traxx but they look pretty cool and it sounds like you are having fun with it. Thanks for the kind words my friend. 👍👍

  • @sprather84
    @sprather84 Před 4 lety +1

    No thank you my rc brother I was just accessing this problem and then it's in my recommendations it's crazy how things just pop up that your thinking about

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety +1

      Funny how that works. 😁👍

  • @caljader3388
    @caljader3388 Před 3 lety +1

    Cool vid! Thanks for the insight!🧐👍✌️🇺🇲

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for watching, glad you found it useful. 👍

  • @GjanzOfficial
    @GjanzOfficial Před 4 lety

    Thanks for sharing..

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety

      thank you for watching👍

  • @nunyadambidness1444
    @nunyadambidness1444 Před 3 lety +1

    I just replaced all my shock towers with aluminum all four corners and of course the front left has the panhard attachment point no flex at all now

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety +1

      I looked at that option but at the time there wasn't an easy way to incorporate the stock wheel wells with the aftermarket shock towers. I've seen a couple pics of guys trying to make the wheel wells work with the aluminum shock towers so Im sure it can be done. But since I've braced the mount it's not a big concern now so it's back in the bucket list of things I'll get to someday. 🤣

    • @nunyadambidness1444
      @nunyadambidness1444 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TJsRC oh yeah definitely not a big deal I had to do a bit of Dremel work to mount it to the frame properly and flush if I wouldn't have happened to have found ones that fit I was just going to support like you said put braces across. ✌️👍

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      @@nunyadambidness1444 Cool, good to know it wasn't too hard. 👍👍

  • @jaywang3337
    @jaywang3337 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video though, if you do a before and after comparison would be even better.

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety +1

      Wang Jay That would definitely have been a better way. Part of the problem for me is fixing something then later realizing oh that would have made a good video. This was one of those unfortunately. I do try to plan for the how to videos but I’m still working on it. When it comes to the making of the videos it’s definitely one of the parts I struggle with the most. I enjoy this video making part of the hobby though so I’ll will keep trying to make it better. Thank you for your constructive feedback I appreciate it. 👍👍

  • @TheLilhulk1111
    @TheLilhulk1111 Před 3 lety +1

    Why put the shocks upside down?

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      That was just an experiment I did to see if it made any difference. It doesn't really so they are back right side up now.

  • @Krayziebone456
    @Krayziebone456 Před 4 lety +2

    What is the name of your servo TJ??

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety

      Andrew Stevens it's a cheap 35kg one from Amazon. Its either an Annimos or a Zoskay brand. 👍

    • @Krayziebone456
      @Krayziebone456 Před 4 lety

      @@TJsRC ok I ordered the red 20kg zoskay one from Amazon should be coming this week. Its going in my trx4 bronco snap on edition amd hopefully it's better than the stock traxxas

  • @Organized-_-Chaos
    @Organized-_-Chaos Před rokem +1

    What pivot ball are tpu useing on the desert lizard shocks I order my a few weeks ago and they don't work on my sport with the included one sided shock pivot ball

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před rokem +1

      I think I used the pivot ball from the stock shock. The one sided one can be made to work you just have to put a small spacer in there to prevent the shock from sliding off the ball.

  • @naxxas777wilson4
    @naxxas777wilson4 Před 4 lety +1

    All you need to do is set your end point so the steering doesn't go to far and go past the end point of the parts design

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety +3

      That would help at full lock but when you are in stickier terrain or rocks there's resistance to the turning forces long before full lock occurs. The stress then on the plastic trackbar mount flexes it if you are running a stronger than stock steering servo. This fix is aimed at those running high power servos because the stock servo isn't strong enough to make this issue a problem. For those still rocking the original servo this isn't necessary.

  • @Chris_Love
    @Chris_Love Před 3 lety +1

    Hi, a non related question. The Desert Lizzard shocks, are they supposed to be mounted that way or it doesnt matter?

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety

      It doesn't really matter, however if you mount them upside down like this everyone will ask about them. 😂😆😉 It's a good conversation starter. In reality it was just an experiment that I was trying that didn't end up accomplishing anything.

  • @RobertCarrizal
    @RobertCarrizal Před 3 lety +1

    How do you find for metal housing I have deleted portal kits

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 3 lety +1

      Are you asking how to find link mounts that work with the metal axle housing? I guess I would have assumed that the metal housing would be the same as the stock as far as installing the link mounts.

  • @macp349
    @macp349 Před 4 lety

    Cool video, interesting fix (I'm not at the point were I see a need to address this or even notice it (I'm still running stock servo, though I did upgrade to the metal steering horn)). Interesting shocks! Are the internal spring? Where can I find those? Are they much better that factory shocks?

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety +1

      The shocks are Yeah Racing desert Lizard Internal spring shocks. The stock shocks are probably higher quality shocks but I wanted more options and the ability to run in a droop setup and the Yeah racing shocks were what I went with. There are a number a different brands making that style of internal spring shock, these seem to have more variability in them vs some of the other brands but it really depends on what you are wanting to accomplish. If you want to try them just search "internal spring RC shock" at your favorite RC store and some options should turn up.

    • @macp349
      @macp349 Před 4 lety

      @@TJsRC thanks much!

  • @krod0877
    @krod0877 Před 4 lety

    Where did you get those mounts

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety

      Kevin A. Rodriguez Got them on Amazon but lots of RC web stores carry them. eBay is another place that has them. If you Google "TRX4 metal link mounts" you'll get a number of options. These Amazon ones were about 20 bucks. You can get them in black also but those cost a bit more. 👍

  • @matthewcostner2937
    @matthewcostner2937 Před 4 lety

    Is that a shock rod that is bent?

    • @TJsRC
      @TJsRC  Před 4 lety

      It's actually a steering linkage from an old Tamiya buggy. I used it because it was the only odd spare part l had on hand that fit what I was trying to do.