I felt TOUCH in VR with a Full-body Haptic Suit!
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2023
- Hello! WELCOME BACK TO... VIRTUALLY ODD! Where we take a look at the weird past, odd present and unknown future of Virtual Reality technology. Today we have the VERY FIRST Full Body Tracked, Full body haptic suit for use in VR. This suit works with any VR headset, Index, Beyond, Quest 2, Index.. you name it. BUT... it's in an "odd" situation. SO, lets take a look at that!
i hope you enjoyed. Virtually odd is BACK!
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what if his controller flew out of his hand and smashed through the window and it fell all the way down and you ran down the stairs to get it and then the little tracking part on the side just snapped off and you used duct tape to put it back on and then there was a shortage of parts so then you couldn't buy a new one but ur like the vr guy so valve is like "Frick it he's the vr guy" and they send you a one made out of their leftover scraps made of cardboard and then it breaks because the base stations can't track it so then it starts freaking out and gives you a seizure and then you go to the hospital because your index controller flew out the window.
plausible.
plausible.
plausible.
plausible.
plausible.
"This company depends on you"
Finally, some honesty from a company.
Agreed.
It's not very honest to run a Ponzi scheme.
If they were so honest, they'd be communicating directly to their Kickstarter backers.
@@kroysteamvr what's to communicate? They donated, 100 of 500 are owed a suit. It'll come, if they survive
@@kroysteamvr Except... they did?
I hope Shockwave can survive. It's awesome that you are helping to keep this tech alive.
Yes, he is one of my favourite decepticons!
@@christopherouradnik1761 Supporting them is only logical.
At the end of the day, it’s the best haptic solution so get one while you can
Send me the time stamp to shockwave plz
You "feel" it in real life🥱🙄
Regarding shockwave;
If anyone from shockwave sees this comment; know this, once get a headset, I'm coming for you. So please, do what you have to do to stay afloat and keep innovating. Your tech is the most promising I've seen yet at a price point that won't break the banc.
For reference of timeframe, I'm waiting on the Deckard (returned my Vive XRE, it just wasn't working out as I hoped) So once the Deckard comes out and is true stand-alone (or if a killer stand-alone comes of the Samsung-Google-Qualcomm joint venture), expect an order from me.
I have a good feeling you guys will hit it out of the park, just look at what Slime has achieved. The time your brand reared its face just happened to be the worst and most challenging time but it looks like you lot overcame it! Hang in there, you got this! :)
Also, to Thrillseeker, you absolutely are doing Shockwave a big solid by bringing attention to them. Your channel has nearly 700k people subscribed at the time of this writing. Hypothetically speaking, if EVERY one of your subscribers tuned in to this video and learn about Shockwave, that's a LOT of attention that just got directed to this startup that can literally lift them out of the dark spot they're in.
Basically, if your followers see you using it and giving your honest review/impressions of it, that can mean the world to Shockwave.
It has to... because it worked on me and now I'll be keeping a close eye on them until I get a headset.
They are a scam I would be careful
As someone who's a partner in a small company that does electronics, all I can say is the struggle they're talking about is super real. All the huge companies could just buy their way out of the problem, but all the little guys were completely shafted when the part shortage hit. it's been a really rough couple years. I commend them for sticking through it. The fact that they're still around at all is a testament to their will to survive and to keep improving. I wouldn't hesitate to pre-order if I was in a place to financially do so (but I'm not, due to the same reasons mentioned above, things are tight. support the companies that are doing what you love)
Yup my only tech Kickstarter was Blinks but that is also not here yet sigh
Totally. Chip shortages are crushing.
Thats where I'm at too. I make decent enough money but not enough to blow on a bunch of hardware. It sucks because the current state of the economy is keeping low budget enthusiasts from supporting the hobby.
@@sky0kast0 Yup. This story feels very familiar... My Yaw2 VR finally arrived last month. 2 years and 3 months past their original expected delivery date
You know it's really tough when even big car manufacturers sell new cars without new electronics in them (radios, HUDs etc) because they are just not available
“So there’s this scene in ready player one” has become the most common way to describe VR tech.
LOL TRUE
Can’t wait for the point where we’re saying “so there’s this scene in Sword Art Online” to describe vr tech
@Mr. Stuff Doer idk, the anime got so mediocre in later seasons that idk if people will really feel it as a relevant piece of art in even 5 to10 years. While Ready Player One wasn't adapted exactly faithfully either, they made up for it and made it kind of work in a feature film format. And the underlying questions about VR and the internet will only become more relevant as the technology becomes more ubiquitous, which is inevitable.
I mean it was a movie about literally everyone using vr. I can't even find many movies about vr aside from the matrix, and a couple other movies the names eluding me. The one with Owen Wilson amd Selma hyak is my favorite
Only because EVERYONE is sleeping on the Dot Hack series. Body suits were in the lore of the game in the news article sections, saying some players wouldn't want to wear it because their avatar would match their body proportions and wouldn't want that info out in public through an MMO.
WE ARE GETTING CLOSER!! Thank you for covering this, I'm super excited for the future. I would love this for VR shooters
“Confirm settings?” “Confirm.” *starts vibrating*
I respect the transparency from both you and those guys. They screwed up and they're telling everyone about it. I prefer that over what most other companies do.
Agreed. The Peachy Printer is a prime example of how to fail on an epic level.
If we ever want to see CHANGE we NEED to support this kind of behaviour. It says alot about person daring to come out to the truth. Unheard of, but very welcome!!!
@@DeltaNovum Exactly
Agreed better than a coverup
agreed
I hope this video helps the company. They took a gamble by making their product affordable and sadly a massive shortage has wrecked havoc on them. They were ambitious and deserve to survive this.
I am crossing my fingers that it will 😊
I decided to pull the trigger and get the non imvu version. Hopefully other put in enough orders so that everyone can get their stuff, including the backers
that remind me the deca gear. i didn't pre order it but got the deca move instead.
however, that wasn't sufficient. The price they were announcing back in october 2020 was barely profitable and then shortage happened. Deca gear became a ghost even if they were able to ship the deca move, beware.
this patern is really similar, same timeline > low crazy price > economy crisis > (fail ?)
unlike Megadoodoo games and Deca Gear ,They have some working product and some of them in the wild, They choose also choose to double the price of the suit for the next batch this time around.
@@CorneliusCornbread Yeah same here
@@lefourbe5596 I got the Deca Move as well, but rarely use it. I got it because of the fact it would help me to navigate Pavlov and Skyrim VR, but starting it up and keeping it calibrated, without accidentally recalibrating it, was always difficult or somewhat annoying for a time. Likely I will use it again if I get my Shockwave suit, and probably put it away again after I get a treadmill, but I figure that will take about 10 years or so lol
The transparency and honesty from the company sold this product for me.
3:42 DAMNNN, we must stay focused
What ?
agreed
I think this is my favorite video I have made in a LONG time. So glad virtually odd is back. Also.. glad to introduce my new assistant, A full AI character. Come hop in the discord server! Discord.gg/Thrill
Your assistant is fun 🙏
Finnaly ill be able to hugg my girlfriend
Hey man, could we use this with Tundra Trackers? I mean, could I *not* use it’s tracking and only the haptics, and just attach some tundra trackers to the outside of it? Specifically asking for VRC.
@@StepCrow Yes, you can. They even sell a non-tracker version for cheaper.
Do you know what happened to the owo suit?
I clicked this video expecting just another ThrillSeeker video... I was just watching then I heard the intro music and my jaw dropped. I'm so glad Virtually Odd is back
IT'S BACK BB!! WOOOO
honestly i feel like this company has a lot of potential, if they're making products like this with minimal backing imagine if they had a team that had the resources to look into new and better tech. Something like this suit could end up prehistoric compared to their future accomplishments, giving vr a more realistic feel and would bring more eyes to the vr community as a whole. I may be stretching it a bit far here but I believe the potential is there if the resources are
This looks fucking awesome. Fr.
So glad to see Virtually Odd back, definitely worth the wait 😊
MAKES ME SO HAPPY! this one was so much fun to make!
Almost teared up hearing that track again
@@ThrillSeekerVR keep it up, the vids are great 👍
We need a haptics standard that could hook into the sdk. That way, no matter what haptics you use, you would get a fairly similar experience.
Need someone like valve who would be able to gain from making such a standard to do it.
YES!! Open standards are key, I'm seeing a lot of smaller companies making really cool tech accessible to a wider range of people so we need open standards to accommodate that.
If we get "standard" now in a year or so it will be so outdated it will be holding advancement down.
@@10hawell nah. proprietary is what holds advancement back.
The problem with standards is that usually if a big company sets the bar and they register that, then nobody else but the same company can use it unless other they pay extra for the license and stuff. So it's a standardized way to make every experience fairly similar but in the other hand it depends on how greedy companies are with this. I'm not saying they shouldn't monetize it but just imagine if Apple or EA made a standard of such thing, they'll monetize the hecc out of it and will leave any indie developers out of the loop by default or will at least be much harder to get into that, it would make it more simple to the consumer tho, but that's a tradeoff for developers I think.
Unless the whole thing gets opensource then that might be a good alternative too I guess.
I like the videos where you review lesser known items and appreciate your honesty. I like that you included the message from the creators and the full story on the kick starter.
The last video you did with the EXIT SUIT created an AMAZING amount of community almost overnight for the suit and is helping it progress. It's great that you're using your channel to help this community and the hardware.
Would you be able to follow-up videos in some amount of time from now to see what the impacts of your messaging was, and how these projects progressed?
I can't believe I've seen you grow this big all the way from 30k. You've really done and outstandingly good job already from all the way back then your quality has always been amazing tho and you deserve every single bit of it.
I believe this is one of those situations where I think we as the people and VR enthusiasts should try to support this company so they can create a flow of these things for more people to use, so they can afford continued development and have a shot at competing before larger companies nom it all up. ~500$ for full-body tracking AND some haptics thown in there? Cheap enough to become mainstream.
Could you imagine if/when full body tracking haptic suits are mainstream, and become the norm for VR, where the tech is far more advanced than the best you can find today? It's going to be insane. Just hearing someone behind you with proximity chat alone is insane, let alone them tapping your shoulder first and feeling it like it's real life..
Imagine getting shot in the back with a burst of shots and feeling the exact points they entered your body in the game, feeling rain drops hitting your shoulders, being in an explosion with shock all over your 99% of your suit, hugging another player feeling pressure on your chest, arms and pats on your back, boxing getting hit with body shots that you don't just see but feel at different strengths depending on the other players speed, it's just gonna make VR that much more immersive that once it's made into a good quality, affordable, highly responsive product I can't see myself not using one.
For basically $500, yes, I would think it's worth it. I would even get this over SlimeVR. And the wait would be worth it!
That may have been worth Thrill emphasizing more in the video, where if this product gets the chance to get ironed out then even at the $500 price it's still about $2000 less than the full setup of other devices would otherwise need for a comparable experience.
@@Vaeldarg agreed
@Vaeldarg indeed, I think this is a really interesting and shockingly affordable concept, but I'll probably wait a little longer until the tech develops farther and there is more support.
They seem to still be around, but they only have 6 games that support the suit, and they're not well known to get support from others. I hope for the best, but it's not the most promising chance of survival.
So glad you did this video ... improves my chance at getting my kick starter. So glad to here its still a go .. please ask them to give us an update.
In love with the Virtually Odd intro, got me hyped up for the episode ahead
That call really presents the harsh, true reality. This, technically, is of a niche group (compared to VR in general, then to other types of gaming). So, if not for the ones putting out content for those that could get others into this group, the economy behind this cannot progress. So, I get where they're coming from. Hopefully they get more ppl to preorder so that they can get the funding to keep the ball rolling and even work on improving the suit.
So a few thoughts on this. This project is really cool, like insanely cool, and the fact that it is a real product that exists is insane. What he said about "I shouldn't say this as an entrepreneur" is correct, because it doesn't inspire faith in the company and the project. That being said, one of the scariest and bravest things someone can do is admit they need help and reach out. Doing so is putting aside all pride. I can respect that and I hope they get the support they need to not go under so they can continue to blow minds with new advances in tech. I believe in putting your money where your mouth is, so I'll probably be getting on the preorder of this when I got the spare time and money.
Gotta say once I saw this, I want this suit. This could potentially become HUGE. I really want to see this company survive.
*Only a few more decades boys!!!* ✊
As someone who has backed a few projects over the years on kickstarter; some working out, and some not(Arpara 5k), the open honesty to the situation at hand is commendable as it shows humility but a strong belief in the product itself. I hadn't heard of this suit and already have the x40, but I will now strongly consider investing in this product for my collection. I appreciate you bringing attention to this product and what it is and isn't.
Shockwave has the potential to be something much more and pioneer further haptics and vr tech, there were unfortunate business decisions, but this video could do so much to help them, here's hoping!
This is really wild. I was never aware of this company and their suit before this video but I’m blown away by it. The video’s great, the suit is awesome at that price, and I really hope their product goes somewhere great. If I had the money, I’d love a suit but I don’t even have a full VR rig that warrants it. Hoping everyone that wants one can grab one alongside the previous preorder folks
i was already interested in the suit when i saw it first, back in 2021, and now, with this video, it's just such an amazing piece of hardware and, even with the price peak, it's still such a good thing to see this kind of tech available to the consumers with a reasonable price. thanks for all that, really.
That intro goes so hard
Yea I was like since when did he have an intro!?
@@niona_notvirtually odd has always had an intro, it’s just a newer one.
@@Spidoc I just meant specifically in this style
Thrill really showed his dedication to the game here and his high moral standards by not even accepting the affiliate code and being completely transparent. Good job, Thrill, keep it up!
YES! I love this old intro I’m so glad you brought it back
Man, with a channel this good and the general vibe, I'd expect at least, AT THE VERY LEAST 1 million subs, what a crazy world
Virtually Odd is back yes!!! I always love this series!
It sounds like it’s super important for this product to survive. Price is often the biggest barrier for people when it comes to starting VR or upgrading your experience.
Ayyy Power thumbnail pog.
I hope they will pull it off! this projects just looks very promising! and if it goes well it will probably shape a new path for full body tracking and haptic suits
I’m “thrilled” this series came back! It used to be one of my favorites!
I know it would be a pain in the ass but I'd love more data in these videos. Like in a given set of time how frequent are the bugs and glitches. How quickly after setup do the first problems show themselves. Stuff like that is honestly really helpful in showing what we should really be paying attention to.
Way to many variables in not only software but hardware differences. Its why nobody every talks about every bug they encounter unless its a repeatable one or a glaring issue that everyone can see.
Yeeees, finally a new virtually odd episode!!! Thanks thrill 🛐
This problem is very common with the tech industry especially on the edge.
Keep in mind if they get a solid number of pre-orders that can also use the info for private investors to help pick things up but yes in jun of 2020 the cost of mems devices took a page from space x it was crazy what once was a 3$ mcu or a 5$ imu was not 30-100$ each
It's the right price at the right time, even at $500 a piece this is a good deal. So... I'm ordering one. It's not perfectly functional, but it's way better than not having either, and far more affordable.
Ideally, Shockwave will eventually release their driver support code to Valve's OpenVR project so support can spread industry-wide, but just having the IMUs integrated into an actual suit is a boon in itself.
how does the order process work as it says pre order but reading into the delivery information it says 2-3 business days have you got it yet
@@big-balls You pre-order into the batch cue. I haven't gotten mine yet, but it should be on it's way.
@@KiraSlith thank you I looked more into it and found out it comes in the fourth quater of this year
full transparency. Good. defiantly caught my eye.
I can’t wait for this, period.
It's a pipe dream, but I would love to see bHaptics and Shockwave collaborate. A fullbody solution with bHaptics level of support/integration would dominate consumer haptics.
Need ps5 level haptics tho before I pay for it though I think
Thinking about it. The bhaptics SDK was open source. Same with this I think. If there's industry support for bhaptics stuff maybe there's some way to convert the signals?
@@goestheboom5211 Ps5 barely has haptic bro it has one taptic engine which costs 5$ the haptic on that shit are nothing compared to actual haptic suits like this one
Your honesty and integrity is huge man, thank you for that. You are an amazing example for others in the media. Keep up the awesome work you do!
Sick intro brah. I like the VirtualBoy.
When VR takes off, you will too. Keep it up! Looking forward to the million subs.
Excellent video, glad to see a return of this series. Fascinating piece of equipment, thanks for the overview and honest opinions.
I'm always blown away by the amount of info Thrill can fit into one 15 minute video. Thrill out!
So much potential! I REALLY want to support them! It feels like the beginning of something amazing like Apple and big companies that started small; I genuinely want to be a part of that journey! YOU GOT THIS, SHOCKWAVE!!
Oh hell yeah love the new intro for virtually odd! And the assistants cool lol
I'm definitely interested in this, I didn't even know it existed. I'd have to wait a little bit to see if they can actually deliver their products but once they get the manufacturing figured out im so down.
The production value in your videos is next to none. You're doing such a good job with this. It's clear that VR is your passion and you giving these weekly video updates is definitely something I look forward to. Thank you!
keep up the amazing videos
this thing actually has potential. looking forward to seeing how things go
When you said they will "subsidise the suits for Kickstarter customers with money from new customers" someone might understand it as you calling it pyramid scheme, but the guy was pretty exact with saying "we need to buy in bulk or not at all". I hope they will be they break even, and start RND for next version of the suit with less drifting and better haptics.
As one of the backers of this project that has yet to receive a suit, I just wanted to say thank you for doing this video. Their company does seem to be genuine about their attempts from what I've seen so far and had been providing regular updates about the project on their discord server and via kickstarter emails; though I will note the updates seem to have slowed down in the last few months which I suspect was due to their funds drying up and their priorities shifting towards fund raising to finish their commitments.
I do sincerely hope this video will help them raise the funds needed to complete the project, but even if it doesn't, I still feel at least a little bit better for having seen this video and knowing that they're trying their best to get the project made, even if it is much later than originally expected.
have u received it yet im curious 9 months on is there any progress
@@imperatrix.0018 Unfortunately not and from what I've seen on their discord, I am now highly sceptical that they ever will provide it. If you'd like to learn more about what has happened in recent months I'd highly recommend visiting what is meant to be the official shockwave discord, since it's basically community run now from what I've seen and is probably the best place to find more info on what is currently going on with all of this.
100% respect for the business honesty.
The future of VR is something I am SO looking forward to.
I must admit that I've been in a Community that's had issues with pricing and getting things out, I've spoken with the people behind it and I've seen it go as well as can be. However I also was very skeptic that it wasn't a Kick-Scam, it doesn't seem to be, but now there's the payment issues; I really do feel for them wanting to price their product reasonably. The issues is now that they've proven do I pre-order at a higher price to pay for the Backers or do I continue playing the waiting game.
The waiting game is really risky, because if they don't get enough preorders, the company will go bankrupt and you will be left with no device to buy at any price.
Combining the tracking and haptics into a onsie has been the first time the idea of wearing stuff for VR has made sense to me. I'd love to have something like this in the future, feel raindrops and wind resistance (and gunshots and spider crawls 😅), and get full tracking with 1 device. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!
man, that intro!!!!! I love the references!! specially the always misread work from Baudrillard lmao
Got to respect that its been this long since the Kickstarter and they still seem determined to see it through & do right by the backers. A company that does that is likely to continue to support and improve its products.
LOVE THE NEW INTRO! AMAZING JOB THRILL! :)
Virtually Odd returns, and with force! I missed this series, and I can tell you’re having a blast with it!
Shockwave is definitely interesting! I do hope they manage to pull through somehow, but either way it looks like something a little special!
I rlly hope this suit takes off cuz it seems soo dope
The intro is a banger!
This is mad interesting - thanks for covering this! If some flaws are ironed out and haptics are easier to use without the need to mod every single game I'm super interested.
Honestly, this is exact the sort of thing that makes me wish I had the money to spend on a proper VR setup. I genuinely want to support a concept like this. But I'm still relying on my (somehow still surviving) Quest 1 and VD to do anything VR related, so buying one of these is way out of the question 😅
I really like this vid, i subbed early on and honestly, i thought your profile picture was something different than what it is, i don’t know what i thought it was but now i can’t un-see the quest 1 on your head. Good video. Also the flipping hologram AI thing looks so much from a like old 1987 startrek show😂😅
Finally a company with actual transparency!! I really hope they succeed; it feels so genuine, and I hope they keep that energy when they eventually blow up to become a bigger company! ♥
As an early backer I REALLY hope this works, I don't think anyone in Europe has received a suit and I had honestly resigned myself to accepting I was scammed but I trust you dude so let's see if Shockwave can deliver
Also, you didn't mention (maybe didn't know) that a year after the project was funded they asked backers for an extra £40 for 'additional shoulder and foot trackers', but at that time they were apparently already in trouble with spiralling costs so it very much looks like it was just ploy to get more money
As I said I really hope the publicity from this video enables them to get the product out but I couldn't personally recommend the pre-orders as I just don't have enough confidence or trust in them for that myself
Did you ever end up getting it?
@@itsyaboi8227 Nah, don't think I ever will to be honest 😒
@@fLaMePr0oF hey don't give up, I just saw the video they seem passionate and i hope one day you'll be able to feel everything inside of vr
Did you get the emails they sent out this week? I ordered one after this video and they just said they are planning on shipping the first batch next month, and asked me for confirmation on my measurements.
I'm curious what they are telling you since you're an earlier backer.
@@Ashley-1917any updates?
Man I'm Extremely jealous of you. You get to play in super high tech Vr stuff while I and many others don't even have a Vr system! P.S cool vid, P.P.S Why does your cat have a cone on at 7:25 ?
Sick, I hope they make it!
Can't believe facebook didn't buy them out.
Deep learning will definitely be able to clear up some of these issues.
Love the intro❤
This is unexpected, but it reminds me of OWO. When will you be getting yours?
Man VR has so much potential I really hope it gets bigger in the future
This video the best ad i ever seen
I love seeing another thrillseeker video. also thrill, you're the reason that I'm obsessed with FBT come onnnnnnnnnn. Literally my life goal now 😊
(Edit VIRTUALLY ODD IS BACK YES)
YOOO YOU KNOW IT!
@@ThrillSeekerVR HELL YEAH MAN. Hope this project doesn't fall.
I'd love to see either you, or someone else if you have a link to it do a side by side with vive/tundra trackers using the same avatar in the same space, doing relatively the same movements and stuff. I'd tottally consider moving from vive to this if it means not having to slowly save up for trackers. But that if its pretty compareable tracking wise, even with the issues you mentioned.
Thank you for explaining everything almost 3 tomes the whole video
YOOOO that intro was actually kinda dope lol
I LOVE VIRTUALLY ODD ❤
YAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
RIP Stonx
Happy VO is back, especially w/this good s2 start. Hope Shockwave can find their feet
This is actually really interesting, ill be watching this company with great interest
500 or 2500 I'd gamble I do think this Kickstarter has potential and I'm surprised the company is still afloat after the mess during COVID that sunk a lot of small business.
when does some company do a (hopefully) open haptics standart, open would be great but even if it is licensed, you could make so much money off of licensing something like that, who knows, maybe it will be part of openxr at some point
The suit looks so sick!
1:09
😢I thought I was watching mat pat for a second, he could honestly be the new mat pat
Honestly, I feel this is a very genuine product, and I hope it can pull through. If I had the money, I'd gladly join the kick starter. No one really could have predicted the chip shortage. Yes, it sucks that the original backers fell left in the cold, but to make sure they didn't waste their money, shock wave needs to survive, and I hope it does cause of love to get one once I'm able to.
The potential of this tech and adult industry is limitless 😂😂
The transparency and effort here is really refreshing. I already pre-ordered Slime VR trackers a few months back, but they have a haptic suit without the trackers for $279. I might actually go for it at some point since I spend the most time in VRChat. I really hope the company survives because they could really accelerate the development of haptic feedback suits by competitors and be the first to actually make them viable for consumers.
Hopefully they do a software update to make re-calibration easier and tracking smoother
if these are the same shock suits that are improved from the last video of you showing off haptics then I am for sure going to get one, the fact that they are not asking a whole arm and a leg, and are a bit more transparent is nice aswell.
Let’s be thankful that there’s none for the crotch