The funniest one to me is when someone asked who has the shortest temper and everyone said Pierre and then Pierre proceeds to show everyone that he has a short temper as he's defending himself😂
There’s a difference between being able to make the right basketball play, and being able to create the easiest shot available almost every possession.
And his gravity also allows him to be a pretty good playmaker. Also, in those Thunder days he did pass but the roster was weak and would miss shots. I think KD is a playmaker he don’t gotta average crazy assists in order to be considered a playmaker but he does playmake on the regular
@@ksea8971and if he had the vision of a guy like Jokic or CP he’d use his offense to create easier baskets for his teammates on a consistent basis throughout the game. KD has more of a score first mindset which is fine, but a true pass first guy like again Jokic uses his scoring threat to create open shots first. Hes not a true playmaker in the sense P was talking about.
@@ksea8971 nah you have your rubio and sabonis kind of guys who use the threat of a basket to create easier ones. They just aren’t as great partly because their ability to score doesn’t scare the defense as much.
3:45 great point dmills, just like you don’t have to average 30 ppg to be a bucket getter, or you don’t have to average 3 blocks/steals to be a great defender
ngl, watching that mavs-suns series, the only time book was talking trash during that series was during games 1, 2, and 5 when they was blowing out the mavs. games 3, 4, 6, and 7 were complete silence.
Watched this with my girl and legit said “I bet all these arguments around P” when slips asked who gonna defend book legacy I legit paused the video and asked my girl and she said “prolly P he always arguing” and she barely he watching with me😂
p said “ we’re comparing them to people that don’t play make “ while he’s comparing a pure scorer in kd to a sharpshooting playmaker in curry .. see how p just be yapping to feel like he’s right 🤣
Listening to the KD playmaker debate is so weird because it feels like the opinions the guys had on it would be reversed today. P mentioning assist totals feels so off 😂
Nah p really be chattin lmaooo nobody said KD was a playmaker I remember this episode years ago and I was like wait what they didn’t say he was a playmaker they said he can playmake.
Did we watch the same video. Mike literally said at the end of the debate “I think we just have different definition of a playmaker” Dmills called KD a playmaker flat out. P literally said KD can playmake but that doesn't make him a playmaker.
This the way i look at argument #1. If the player you’re debating about can be given the playmaking role and you know he’s gonna be solid? Yeah thats a playmaker. If i see the suns say kd is the playmaker for tonight than i know they’re in good hands im not worried at all.
Scoring and playmaking goes hand and hand cuz if ur a scorer it open doors to find your teammates and then and if ur a playmaker it helps u create shots ie Jokic
Steph has never came close to averaging 30 and 10 bc Draymond does most of the facilitating so P is tweaking. Only guys to do it are Harden, Westbrook and Luka
On the first one, I agree with DMills. KD doesn’t need to playmake because he’s primarily a scorer, but doesn’t mean he isn’t a playmaker. P IS REALLY STUBBORN.
Based on mike and dmills' argument, klay is also a playmaker because he got 8 assists 4 times in his career, and Dikembe Mutombo is a scorer because he got 39 points one time
@@_SayitAintSodoesn't make him a playmaker. someone like lebron has done that 304 times or curry with 133 times. 35 times is absolutely nothing compared to an actual playmaker
@@_SayitAintSodmills said it multiple times throughout the whole argument. he consistently asked P if he thought kd was a playmaker. not if he could playmaker but if he was a playmaker. ik because i watched and heard him say it countless times. you need to rewatch the video
Phoenix picked Culver with the 6th pick and then traded him to get Cam Johnson and Saric who helped them get where they are now. Worked out in the end for Phoenix. P is wrong all through this video
P desperately trying to change the question AND remove the context. The post is about kd's playmaking abilities preventing him from elevating his team. Its that simple.
Kd can be a playmaker, it’s just not his role. His role is to put the ball in that cup. Asking if he a playmaker then comparing him to the best gaurds in the nba is kinda 🤣🤣🤣. Has played with steph, draymond, Russ, harden, kyrie, cp3… where would he NEED to. So in a way ig they both right?
They’re both right, KD has a high basketball iq so he knows who to pass to and when but he’s looking to score most of the time so he’s not an actual playmaker but can make the right reads and passes
nah that makes P more right. P stated kd can playmake but he doesn't. he's not a playmaker but can. same reason jr smith isn't an elite scorer but can drop 30 occasionally. lebron has played with elite playmakers like rondo on the cavs but still is an elite playmaker. lebron is a playmaker. a playmaker should be able to average at least 7 or so assists multiple times in their career regardless of their team. same reason a legit scorer can average at least 20+ ppg multiple seasons
Dmills and Mike I think did not understand what P was saying lmao. KD cannot play make consistently. Just cause he COULD do it don’t mean he can. 🤷🏾♂️ There is a reason why he doesn’t too
Pierre was quite literally wrong on every point he made in the first argument. it’s so crazy he preaches watching ball and he was cherry picking assists totals the entire time lmao
Is KD a playmaker??
No but if it was paul george “his role isnt to playmake but he can do it” 😂😂
No
No
yes obviously lmao
no
Alternate title: P arguing with people for 34mins
😂
P: I love the hustle, I love the game
😂😂😂😂
But he’s right tho. Mike arguments just be coming from his blunts
P is the goat
the kd playmaker debate is literally the same jure "bucket getter" shit😂
The funniest one to me is when someone asked who has the shortest temper and everyone said Pierre and then Pierre proceeds to show everyone that he has a short temper as he's defending himself😂
Lmao
Lmaooo
Kenny is the King of “ I get what both of yall are saying “
deadass
Kenny said just chillin in the middle
P acting like playmaking is limited to passing is INSANE 😂😂
anything to win the argument 😂
Especially after he tried to downplay d mills talking about assists and then goes on to ask “has Kevin durant ever averaged 7 assists” like?!?
But then he talking about some 'every player can pass' 😭😭😭 playmaking is always passing but passing dont make you a playmaker somehow
@@Jayden00gin fairness, Ps argument there was about KD doing it consistently when D Mills said he saw one game with 10
he’s right about KD not being a playmaker tho
bro dmills lazy eye used to be so noticable to me, but i cant even tell anymore
Facts
Did he get it fixed?
@@Caronbi think so
P wildin showing up to the pod with that big ass hickey on the side of his neck
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Freak ahh
It’s a lightskin thing
@@Est-dh2goeveryone gets hickies
This the comment we were all looking for fr. P ain’t never have a fuck
There’s a difference between being able to make the right basketball play, and being able to create the easiest shot available almost every possession.
Kevin durant shooting the ball is usually the easiest shot available almost every possession.
And his gravity also allows him to be a pretty good playmaker. Also, in those Thunder days he did pass but the roster was weak and would miss shots. I think KD is a playmaker he don’t gotta average crazy assists in order to be considered a playmaker but he does playmake on the regular
@@ksea8971and if he had the vision of a guy like Jokic or CP he’d use his offense to create easier baskets for his teammates on a consistent basis throughout the game. KD has more of a score first mindset which is fine, but a true pass first guy like again Jokic uses his scoring threat to create open shots first. Hes not a true playmaker in the sense P was talking about.
@@blitzandgoo sounds like the sense P is talking about only includes like 5 players in the entire world
@@ksea8971 nah you have your rubio and sabonis kind of guys who use the threat of a basket to create easier ones. They just aren’t as great partly because their ability to score doesn’t scare the defense as much.
Thumbnail had me thinking Pierre was wearing a Mario costume 😂
😂😂😂
the "who will defend books legacy" bit killed me 😭 just seeing p sitting there and knowing just exactly what's ab to happen
If P was in P’s comments talkin like he does he wouldn’t like himself😭😭
“Nobody does anything they can’t do” 😂😂😂 what he just be wanting to argue. If it ain’t your role why do it??
3:25 Dana was givin him dat good good . Bros neck been through WAR😭😭
😂😭😭😭
who could’ve guessed p is in every argument
3:45 great point dmills, just like you don’t have to average 30 ppg to be a bucket getter, or you don’t have to average 3 blocks/steals to be a great defender
P couldn’t let Mike get away with disrespecting his light skin brother
ngl, watching that mavs-suns series, the only time book was talking trash during that series was during games 1, 2, and 5 when they was blowing out the mavs. games 3, 4, 6, and 7 were complete silence.
Completely false.
Beautiful editing in this one, the loud booms during the book toughness argument killed me
When P gets frustrated he starts saying dumb stuff 😅
Kentrell "I get what you're both saying" Beecham
Naming players that can give you 10ast and 30 points and he said Ben.. oh what a time😅
Even saying Curry like he ever averaged above 7 assists
That playmaker debate really timeless with them lmao
Did P ever say why he stopped the pre show?
P neck in the first clip is crazy
Freaky ass
The fact P has 5 parts of this 😂
Watched this with my girl and legit said “I bet all these arguments around P” when slips asked who gonna defend book legacy I legit paused the video and asked my girl and she said “prolly P he always arguing” and she barely he watching with me😂
2:49 look at P neck bro 😭😭
18:20 lmao we need a mike catching strays compilation
P got a wild hickey in that first clip 😭😭
Pierre with that FAT hickey on his neck 😂
Dmills was going crazy to make that
P with the hickey in the first clip crazy
Pierre really thought that playmaking was exclusively based on assist totals. How far we’ve come.
Can we get a complication of P saying “y’all remember when y’all said Lonzo Should be in the G league?” I know there’s at least 2 hours worth 😂
Its out there
Pierre got a crazy hickey in that first clip 😂
Making plays doesn’t necessarily make you a playmaker, cmon DMills and Mike
Funny part is nowadays they wouldn’t even argue this and say he’s not 😂😂😂
Nah P's fit in the second clip gotta be reviewed
"who will defend books legacy?" Book sitting right there in red this tricc ahh question
It's the "I see what both of yall are saying" from Kenny
Why’s 2018 Kenny give me Donald Glover vibes 😂
P be tripping sometimes💀
That last clip shows KB knowledge is forsho higher than the rest😂
Mike cut weak Asl 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dawg p got a fat ass hickey on his neck 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He wilding lmaoo
This was the during that time period when TTW had to share beds 🤨
He was younger 😂
DMills was going crazy.
He and dmills got too freaky while sharing a bed lmao
Hickey on the neck is crazy
in a way yes KD is a playmaker, his pure dominance with the ball gets his team open which equals more successful plays being made lol
That 6th overall pick they’re talking about was traded to Minnesota and was used to select Jarrett Culver LMAO
Do y’all think that’s a hickey on Pierre neck😂
Did P pull up to the podcast with a hickey on his neck 💀💀
Lmao P was tryna all add that extra shit into the question for the poll to try to give him the best chance to win lol
Anyone else notice P hickie in the first clip, my manes got the drawers before the pod
3:41 hickie neck p hall of fame🤣
Ayyyyy 34 mins oh yeah we been blessed 😭
i'm sorry, the cramped shoulder to shoulder line-up at 25:00 is killing me 😭
p said “ we’re comparing them to people that don’t play make “ while he’s comparing a pure scorer in kd to a sharpshooting playmaker in curry .. see how p just be yapping to feel like he’s right 🤣
That Luka vs booker series gonna be crazy with the new suns team
Listening to the KD playmaker debate is so weird because it feels like the opinions the guys had on it would be reversed today. P mentioning assist totals feels so off 😂
KD playmakes, but he's not playmaker.
If KD couldn't score the way he can I dont believe he could be considered a playmaker at all
that last argument so funny too because the bulls basically did exactly what kenny said the suns should do (vucevic) and there ass lmaooo
Nah p really be chattin lmaooo nobody said KD was a playmaker I remember this episode years ago and I was like wait what they didn’t say he was a playmaker they said he can playmake.
Boom! Thank you!
dmills directly stated kd was a playmaker which created the debate so P was right in that situation
Did we watch the same video. Mike literally said at the end of the debate “I think we just have different definition of a playmaker” Dmills called KD a playmaker flat out. P literally said KD can playmake but that doesn't make him a playmaker.
Man i just sat down for breakfast
I just sat down for dinner
This the way i look at argument #1. If the player you’re debating about can be given the playmaking role and you know he’s gonna be solid? Yeah thats a playmaker. If i see the suns say kd is the playmaker for tonight than i know they’re in good hands im not worried at all.
Scoring and playmaking goes hand and hand cuz if ur a scorer it open doors to find your teammates and then and if ur a playmaker it helps u create shots ie Jokic
Steph has never came close to averaging 30 and 10 bc Draymond does most of the facilitating so P is tweaking. Only guys to do it are Harden, Westbrook and Luka
are you a good defender if you get 1.5 steals a game?
Need more stats
I usually agree with Pierre but he’s a lil delusional w that KD take. I think playmaking might be the most underrated part of his game
On the first one, I agree with DMills. KD doesn’t need to playmake because he’s primarily a scorer, but doesn’t mean he isn’t a playmaker. P IS REALLY STUBBORN.
Based on mike and dmills' argument, klay is also a playmaker because he got 8 assists 4 times in his career, and Dikembe Mutombo is a scorer because he got 39 points one time
you’re just as delusional as P then because that was never their argument
kd has gotten 10+ in 35 games
@@_SayitAintSodoesn't make him a playmaker. someone like lebron has done that 304 times or curry with 133 times. 35 times is absolutely nothing compared to an actual playmaker
@@TheGamingShogun not a single person, not even mike and d mills, said kd is a playmaker
@@_SayitAintSodmills said it multiple times throughout the whole argument. he consistently asked P if he thought kd was a playmaker. not if he could playmaker but if he was a playmaker. ik because i watched and heard him say it countless times. you need to rewatch the video
11:19 this just ended the first debate lmao
How would Steph’s playmaking look if he didn’t have Dray there to facilitate the 4v3 on the backend?
A P yapping compilation
Phoenix picked Culver with the 6th pick and then traded him to get Cam Johnson and Saric who helped them get where they are now. Worked out in the end for Phoenix. P is wrong all through this video
Phoenix traded 6 for the draft pick that was Cam Johnson and Dario Saric. They did not draft Culver.
KD ain’t a Luka, Lebron, Jokic type of playmaker, but he is a playmaker
P was buggin in the kd discussion ngl
P arguing for no reason
P desperately trying to change the question AND remove the context. The post is about kd's playmaking abilities preventing him from elevating his team. Its that simple.
P really came with a hicky
bro whats up wit pierre inna kd debate
KD one of the best playmakers in the league P does NOT know ball 🤣🤣
P hickey shining 😂😂 freaky ass guy
clips coming through
Kenny was right about the suns take.
Obviously P was gonna defend the legacy 😂😂
I’d say KD def a playmaker but he isn’t on the level as the guys Pierre talking about 8:07
“Steph Curry, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Ben Simmons..”
P crazy for that 😂 tell me which one of those isn’t like the other
P is right
Kd can be a playmaker, it’s just not his role. His role is to put the ball in that cup. Asking if he a playmaker then comparing him to the best gaurds in the nba is kinda 🤣🤣🤣. Has played with steph, draymond, Russ, harden, kyrie, cp3… where would he NEED to. So in a way ig they both right?
They’re both right, KD has a high basketball iq so he knows who to pass to and when but he’s looking to score most of the time so he’s not an actual playmaker but can make the right reads and passes
nah that makes P more right. P stated kd can playmake but he doesn't. he's not a playmaker but can. same reason jr smith isn't an elite scorer but can drop 30 occasionally. lebron has played with elite playmakers like rondo on the cavs but still is an elite playmaker. lebron is a playmaker. a playmaker should be able to average at least 7 or so assists multiple times in their career regardless of their team. same reason a legit scorer can average at least 20+ ppg multiple seasons
Kd is a playmaker
KD isnt a playmaker
deb 1 ik why p was gettin pissed . ppl sittin here being literal w what hes saying like any nba player cant make a pass
Ttw clips been cooking
Dmills and Mike I think did not understand what P was saying lmao. KD cannot play make consistently. Just cause he COULD do it don’t mean he can. 🤷🏾♂️ There is a reason why he doesn’t too
Pierre was quite literally wrong on every point he made in the first argument. it’s so crazy he preaches watching ball and he was cherry picking assists totals the entire time lmao
P loves the argue😂😂😂
P was wrong about damn near everything, especially the Booker Luka shit, dickriding Book all crazy because he light skin