22 Terabytes on a Single Drive! WD My Book External Hard Drive Review
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Buy one on Amazon: lon.tv/jkfwg (compensated affiliate link) - The WD My Book series external hard drives come in a number of storage capacity options. In this video we'll take a look at their enormous 22TB version. See more storage: lon.tv/storage and subscribe! lon.tv/s
VIDEO INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
00:38 - Price Point
00:52 - Comparison to WD Elements Drive
01:16 - USB Port, Cable, Power and Kensington Lock
02:27 - Compatibility
02:43 - Noise & Capacity
03:31 - Performance - Blackmagic Speed Test
04:13 - Performance - CrystalDiskMark Test
04:37 - Game Console Compatibility
05:16 - Backup Plan
06:05 - Shucking
06:53 - Encryption
07:05 - Conclusion
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I was thinking about my first hard drive, a Seagate ST225 at 20mb. Amazing the progress of the last 30+ years.
My exact same first hard drive. For an original IBM PC. Still have both, historic souvenirs, many hard drives and PCs later. Think it cost $299 or $399.
Mfm hdd. That was when we had to low level format the drives. Wow it’s been a while.
Think of all the other advances in society in the same time frame and having an 22tb drive seems rather insignificant.
but the true fun is ssd 😊
You're right. A backup is most important with any drive which means you need another 22TB drive.
This is acceptable if it is the backup. I'd happily buy one if the price per TB were right.
You can buy 2 14TB during BF and come out cheaper, unless all of the data has to centralized. I usually just pull the HDD from the enclosure then add it to my PC as a secondary drive, but it’s no longer cost effective when having to buy an adapter to bypass the PSU. Not to mention that this costs more than the bare HDD.
Raid-1 (mirroring)
@mingkee27 I run Raid 1 on boot SSD, and Raid 1 on 20tb Storage HDD from WD NAS pro. You still need the step 3, backup drive then step 4 off site backup drive.
@@vi_EviL_iv My friend just keeps a backup drive at his work. It makes an inexpensive off-site backup.
Hi Lon - Funny this came up. I bought one of these and returned it - extremely slow. I was NOT getting the 250mbs expected. I seem to doubt the rpm. My solution was - I purchased the same size WD Gold at a comparable price and mounted it in a fanned external case ($29). Working like a charm ! Getting up to 275 mbs. BTW: This forces me to get another for obvious reasons. Just an FYI my friend - Regards👍👍👍
please stop drooling over the 22terabyte hard drive it's just a hardrive after all🤣🤣
Does it make a lot of thumping and grinding noise? Mine does and noticeably vibrates.
super thanks Lon, always straight to the point videos simple and informative
As they are compressing more and more data into the same space, I seriously wonder about the potential failure rate of these devices. From both internal and external causes. How does the failure rate of this drive compare to its earlier ancestors?
As for cost, I just checked and the 14 TB version (which I have purchased a few) is going for $220, which would give 42 TB storage for about the same price while reducing the impact of a 22 TB single point of failure. I use them for multiple layers of backup, including offsite rotation.
They aren't using "compression" they are physically making the bits recorded smaller
Can this unit be placed flat or must it be upright
yes, but this thing need electricity plug to run, heavy, bulky and it also fragile, so i only one, not 2 or more
for multiple hdd i use external portable hdd, they are small, light and more solid
my only concern is external portable hdd maximum tb is currently sit at 5 tb while than ssd going to 4tb
@@billybraithwaite67 i place flat, just dont block the airflow
does it make a knocking sound while running? like every 4 seconds?
Is it possible to watch movies on Sony Bravia 2017 TV through it?
this a good one for all my PLEX files ?
Will something like this work on a mini pc?
Do you have a review of WD (my book) vs WD elements? I see them on Amazon. But confused 🤔
was looking into buying one as my secondary line of defense for my nas as offline backup just in case
Does speed really matter when you’re connecting for MKV 4k videos files to the Nvidia shield or will any hard drive work fine ? Because sometimes I see large files buffering when playing on the nvidia
depends on bitrate but i really doupt you need 220mb/s to stream a 4k vid (at most you need 24~ mb/s to stream a 4k blu ray)
Got this same drive last month and it’s been great so far. Only annoyance is that the heads are pretty loud.
my cloud os was hacked last month. i guess they don't provide much security updates on their os. maybe that issue will help them to improve their security.
how can you see the heat index and speed on a mac ( i noticed you use crystal disc, but that is only windows compatible)
i found a speed test but i need to see the HEAT index on a 12tb My Book for MAC?
I understand that WD SmartWare is end of life? And that WD appears to be recommending Acronis True Image for WD. Any recommendations?
That is a lot of eggs in one basket... :\
Yeah 10tb drives are the biggest I currently run in my Nas setups... data loss on one of these bad boys without parity and backups would be a bad time though, but just 8 of these in a desk Synology would be insane, would be way over 100tb useable with even 2 drives lost to data parity, crazy amount of data for a home user, but with all the 4k go pros and drones and 4k movie rips on people's Plex setups it's easier than people think to eat through low double digit tb storage
@Kevin L Sims that's a pretty large collection, the more space I have the more I need, 😂👍
it is why i have several hdd and ssd and spend 200-300$ every year in hdd or ssd
Smr or cmr?
Can I plug this into the USB port on my Wi-Fi router and use as an inexpensive NAS drive?
Will I have to disable the encryption service?
This drive must be connected to a PC. It will not boot on it's own, to connect to a network.
@@zapa1pnt Many routers these days have a Type-A USB port where you can plug any regular external drive and the router itself will expose that drive to the network through its built-in support for SMB/CIFS, FTP and in some rare cases AFP, WebDAV and other protocols. It is a pretty cheap way to have a 'NAS' although you obviously lose a lot of functionality that a true NAS provides, particularly the RAID features.
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77: I was unaware, thank you.
Lon, to keep your external drives (and other things) from slipping around on your desk,
get some no slip shelf liner (netting type), from Walmart and cut pads, to place under
whatever is slipping around. 😁✌🖖
Can I use this drive as a jump drive without installing the included software?
yes,
Just shucked two of my 5tb elements. The components used to make these are shockingly scant and simple. If found on deals amd sales, they’re not bad propositions for the purpose of shucking them.
They’re running in my terra master DAS.
Just for your interest
WD My Cloud Home can be used as NAS with login
You have to assign an IP and enter with the IP
Enable local access and setup username and password, and done.
You can even access from outside without the app (just SMB client) using port forwarding
Lon, have you considered direct attached storage as another option?
That is exactly what this drive is.
@@zapa1pnt thought this was just another external cloud storage nas like the my cloud lol. I was just inquiring about this external hard drive but I switched to ssds nowadays full time since I transfer large video files and when I'm transferring files, I move around the external storage so that is why I prefer to use ssd since I don't need to worry about it failing due to no moving parts since I'm not stationary when I'm transferring data. Sometimes I carry a laptop and an external storage device at the same time but I'm transferring data at the time while I'm doing it and using a standard hard drive won't work for me due to moving parts. I have dropped my external ssds accidentally while I was trying to transfer data since they are slippery since some of the enclosures that I use are metallic and slippery.
Considering the lifespan of many hard drives these days, I certainly hope no one trusts one of these devices to be their only backup. I recently had a WD drive in an external USB enclosure mechanically fail at less than three years of backup use. Thankfully I have the same data backed up on two other devices so I didn't lose irreplaceable data.
Did you have it plugged in all the time?
I still have 20 year old USB drives that still works because they are never connected when not in use.
Backup drives should never be powered 24/7.
@@V3ntilator I had the exact same point of failure with 2 500GB MyBook enclosures. They were set to power on and off with my desktop. I lost my entire music library, because later my toddler got into my CD collection and threw up on all of my discs.
It’s the enclosures.
@@zeroturn7091 It usually is, while HDD's is still working. I always took out HDD's from USB boxes when they stopped working. Always.. Happened 3 times or so. HDD's still worked.
@@zeroturn7091 There you have the problem. You should disconnect them from PC when not in use.
Also. You could use a standard HDD as extra backup inside PC and copy over to USB every 2-4 weeks only like me. I use PC HDD + 2 external HDD's with duplicate backups. When a external USB drives stopped working, i took out the HDD's and they still worked. In most cases HDD's didn't break, but the controller inside USB Case did. ZeroTurn mentions this here too.
I would use it for backing up and streaming my movies.
Is WD easystore 22tb external hard drive good?
Not reliable from what I've read. Two Western Digital black Xbox 12tb drives would be a better choice.
So does this plug into my PC or is it intended to plug into my router/modem?
It's basically just a usb external drive, if your router has a USB for file access on your network it will probably work. 22tb is way too much data to only have stored on one drive imo.
@@nvdsraemuna7833 Yup! Gotta get 2 or not sleep at night.
It needs to be connected to your PC and shared on your network (if you have one).
It is not a NAS, which will boot up and connect itself to your network.
All your eggs in one basket when this goes up in smoke
Perfect for running a Plex server you have lots of storage to use for you totally legaly obtained movies and or tv shows/music
As long as you have a backup drive or drives. My movies are stored on two spinning drives in different PCs. My other files are backed up on SSDs in different PCs.
@@piman2boek364 I got the main spinning drive for them in my pc and quite a few other drives at various levels of it. Like I got one drive full of the original stuff I started out with. Then I got another drive that has some of a mix of those files and my blu ray rips from other movies. Also another drive that has exact match of the data of the drive that’s in my pc. So if one fails I am not that far back. Of course I still got my blu ray disc for absolute mass drive failure.
Thanks Much !
Relying on these large capacity external drives is a fool's errand. You always need a 2nd identical capacity drive in order to have a backup for security. So, it's actually a $1,200 cost for 2 drives. Backing up data is at a minimum, triple redundancy...a backup of the backup and usually stored off sight.
Note 2 my future self.
The #1 killer for external hard drive is heat. It's crucial you get an app that monitor it. I recommend Crystal Disk info.
Temperatures higher than 50°C are too hot for the drive, putting its sensitive and critical components at risk.
This is what happened when it get hot.
Parts of the circuit board might get burned or melt, making it difficult to read or write data.
Prolonged high temperatures will decrease the lifespan of a hard drive.
Electrical components can degrade and potentially fail.
The metal discs (or platters) that store data can expand and contract, causing damage to other components or even a head crash.
Warped platters can prevent the retrieval of data.
Does this device use SMR drives? In that case, it is unlikely to work with Full-Disk-Encryption tech like BitLocker / Veracrypt etc. The SMR drives also do not work as part of RAID arrays. No one in their right mind will ever choose encryption provided by a HDD manufacturer, so talk of encryption if any - must use open-source technologies such as LUKS / VeraCrypt or industry standard like BitLocker.
How well might this work with my plex media collection? Good ,bad or keep looking?
it's gonna work great, but internal hard drives are always better deal.
I had a WD mycloud device - since then never ever will I buy WD again. And Plex worked better on a RaspberryPi 4 than on the mentioned WD thing.
@@tbollinger63 wd mycloud is a budget nas that fails on all accounts, the review is just the external hard drive. it will do fine for plex.
These devices are probably the most stupid idea I have ever seen. Not even a simple RAID1, just a huge single HDD to store all your info and then lose it. As every sysadmin knows - there are two types of drives - *failed* and the ones that *WILL fail*.
@jonny_laguna Yeah, because I like to copy all my files multiple times across different devices instead of using a sanely designed product :)
nothing stops you buying 2 22tb hdds and running them in raid 1
@@RusRus72 This device has a single drive. You can’t install two drives for a raid1
Does it stop a meglomaniac's rocket from combusting mid flight.
Which disk is inside ???
06:05 -
PlayStation 4/5 supports up to 8TB. But you can only play PS4 games straight from the external drive. PS5 games _can_ be stored on the external, but must be moved back to internal storage to be played.
XBox One/Series can support up to 16TB, but are otherwise the same as PS5. XBox One, as well as OG XBox and 360 titles supported through backward compatibility, can be played straight from the external. Xbox Series titles, and XB1 titles that have been upgraded to Series specs, must be moved to and played from the internal drive(s). It is considered a Series game if it has an *X|S* logo on the game tile in the interface.
Just got it today, using it to store all the raw files from my photography, because they really slow down the explorer on my otherwise very high end PC.
I'll keep copies of the most important files on my PC and external 4 TB SSD for now, but I guess a 2nd one of these or similarly sized external HDD would make sense, to be 100% sure not to lose anything.
$582 with just one drive… Yikes. I can think of cheaper ways to live dangerously.
If you ether have backups like you should or put non vale able data like steam games or movies rips form blu rays it doesn’t matter if the drive fails
I paid $400 for a 40MB seagate, so all these multi TB drives are a bargain
@@tomservo5007 wow 40 mb that’s crazy
Clearly you just have to spent another 600 to use another as a backup
@@samanthagriffinv2.08for some, restoring 22tb of data is an arduous choir. Even if it’s just inconsequential dats like steam games.
For offline backup I open these and plug them directly into my SATA port. Then backup my data to the drive and put it back in the enclosure. I've done that with previous versions of this drive. I don't keep USB hard drives plugged in and turned on accept one connected to my DVR. I believe the heads are parked when you turn the drive off properly. You only have to worry about them being fragile when they are powered on.
I'll wait for the refurbished models when it comes out on ebay lol
I would rather have 11 2tb SSD's after several fails of HDD especially from WD.
I used to use Seagate drives, but the failure rate back then was fairly high, so I switched to primarily WD drives. There are mostly no problems, but I've discovered that some of my WD drives have failed seemingly for no reason. One drive was put in storage for a month, and when I tried to use it again, it was dead. Obviously, all drives have the potential to fail, which is why it's imperative to have backups of any storage drive.
In storage, if it was placed in heat or poor ventilation it will ruin anything electronic. I've had my WD for 15 years but I always kept it inside near my computer. No problems at all! In fact, I recently upgraded my computer's memory, threw everything I needed off of the WD, formatted it, and threw everything back on just to make sure it's all good. A little t-l-c goes a long way!
@@taisou108 It wasn't placed near heat, and it had proper ventilation. It was stored near my system as well. I learned years ago the hard way why you better back up a drive, sometimes, they will just fail.
@@samuraiwarriorsunite keeping it close to your system is heat. I kept it close by, but not close. 15 years and still truckin'!
@@taisou108 When I say close to the system I mean in the same room, but yes, I do have some external hard drives over 12 years old, and they still work, but those are no longer my primary drives. By the way, I do have Seagate drives as well, They're far more reliable and robust then they were in the beginning.
@@samuraiwarriorsunite always heard great things about Seagate too. WD and Seagate for me
I've had a bad experiences with My Books. They tend to just...quit. And very early on they stop taking their full capacity--probably due to bad sectors. I bought one that died after a year, then my work gave me another that only went 6 months before losing a third of its capacity--too sketchy to trust. In fact, I only buy the little USB powered drives now. They seem bulletproof by comparison.
take everything off of it temporarily and format it. Then put everything back on. You'll be fine! I've never had to, but I do it for good measure. A little t-l-c goes a long way!
The #1 killer for external hard drive is heat. It's crucial you get an app that monitor it with. I use Crystal Disk info.
Based on the above, temperatures higher than 50°C are too hot for the drive, putting its sensitive and critical components at risk.
This is what happened when it get hot.
Parts of the circuit board might get burned or melt, making it difficult to read or write data.
Prolonged high temperatures will decrease the lifespan of a hard drive.
Electrical components can degrade and potentially fail.
The metal discs (or platters) that store data can expand and contract, causing damage to other components or even a head crash.
Warped platters can prevent the retrieval of data.
Had a pair fail on me back when they used to have the blue status ring and FireWire port. If I had to guess, the biggest issue is the controller board. My case was specific as I left my drives connected to power on when turning on my PC.
I’d get a dual drive nas for that price
Backing up is only half the story - you need a copy of your backup software installed on a 2nd machine if you want any hope of accessing that info. This is critical when the dead drive is your boot drive and you either cannot reinstall windows or the installed programs you use no longer have their activation servers up.
Acronis comes in many flavors. A simple look to see if the bundled version WD provides can do a system drive level backup (as opposed to just file based backup) would have gone a long way here.
Where is it made?
I remember a time after buying a 60GB drive and thinking I wouldn't ever need to buy another drive again...
I felt that way about the 1 gig drive I bought in 1995!
it depend at which speed you fill up your hdd with movie, video game, porn and anime 😊
Wow!!!
i prefer 2x10tb in raid1 rather than 1x20tb.
...and I prefer one as a NAS and the second as a backup. RAID is quite useless if you do not need urgent availability.
don't you mean 1x10tb? i thought your storage was halved in raid 1 configuration.
Encryption? This drive encrypts your data on the fly? If this is similar to other usb drives I've used then there is a separate circuit board external to the bare drive itself. That handles the usb interface and creates the SATA interface to the drive. That board does the encryption, not the drive. As the data arrives at the drive it is already encrypted.
Why this concerns me is an older drive quit on me several years ago. Ok, so I removed the bare drive thinking it might be ok if the problem was in the interface. Well I was half right, the drive was fine but all the data was encrypted by that board and I had no way to decrypt it as that was the failed circuit boards function when you were reading from the drive.
So for me, I still like usb external drives but AVOID any that claim encryption. Just think how much fun you'd have with 22TB of data that you could no longer read. :-(
How are these thing not using USB-C yet?
No usb type c?
20.99 tb
As long as it's not a MyCloud device 😂, those have had some security issues lately.
Shucks 😂, might eventually have to pick 5x of these up when the price comes down for around 55-60tb actual useable in my jonsbo n1 nas build. Rebuild times seem like they would be horrific though, so I'm guessing 2x parity at minimum for peace of mind.
man, thats a lot of data to lose all at once when it dies.
yes it is why i burn 200-300$ every year in hdd and ssd to alway keep my data if one day my pc or my hdd die
Yup I had the 16tb version. It didn’t survive the cat knocking it off the table. I used it for Plex and Blu-ray rips. So the backup in theory are the disks. Still haven’t re-ripped them all yet. 🤨
Yup, that is fully what this type of drive isn't something anyone should buy. Some time ago I stopped thinking about my discs as a backup as I don't think I could ever muster up the energy to even begin to re-rip them all. It would likely take me towards a year even with my three uhd drives (two are in and one is in a drawer as backup). Decided to just make sure I always had full copy on different HDD as the cost was far far less than the time to re-rip.
i hope that's enough storage for my VHS porn collection.
please review the 44tb version hehe
They Also Have a 44TB Version with Two of Those 22TB Drives in It That You Can Raid...
You didn't bother to identify whether it uses shingled type of storage on its platters or not.
Now all my data are on 3 duplicated drives
Let me just backup this last bit of data over... And it's gone.
Exfat? For a Hard Disk Drive? Really? That's very strange! ... It's usually NTFS for a Hard Drive in Windows! ... Exfat is for USB Flash Drives bigger than 4 GB!
EDIT: It's a stupid design being upright, because as you say, if it gets knocked over while working it could damage the drive and cause a head crash!
I bought a 5TB WD Essentials USB powered drive. I was VERY disappointed to find out that the USB port is soldered to the drive PCB, preventing use of the drive in other enclosures or applications! 👎 Also, the drive employs Shingled Magnetic Recording technology.
Macs can't format NTFS for Windows out of the box, just Fat32 and ExFat (plus the usual JHFS and AFPS). I dunno why he isn't formatting to JHFS or AFPS like a normal Mac user, ExFat is a strange choice.
@@handenbramilton "Macs" are what I wear in the rain, while I'm eating my Apple! ... Rain or not, gotta get your "5 a day!" 🍎👍🤣 ... Seriously, I've NEVER owned an Apple product, as I think they're ridiculously over-priced, unless you're made of money, which sadly I'm not! 👎🤣
@Kevin L Sims Thanks for the reply, but I have been using and building computers for 27 years, so you're attempting to teach your grandfather how to suck eggs! 🤣
I wouldn't know what to do with this much storage 🤣🤣
It's surprisingly easy to fill it if you rip blu ray TV show box sets at native file sizes or you do a ton of 4k filming, I can fill a 10tb drive with just my steam game library, fellow data hoarders will attest the more space you have the easier it seems to be to fill it. 😂
store anime, movie, porn, video game, so if one day internet cripple because sun storm, you can still enjoy several thousand hours of movie and porn
What appears to be a similar stand alone version of that drive is around $470, so an additional $110 for the enclosure. Definitely not a 'shucking' purchase.
Also 22tb single drive without at backup or any type of redundancy? nope. nope. nope. I can't even imagine what a good use case for this drive by itself is.
Useful for cold storage
@@RoastBeefSandwich Sure, but then of course this is not something they are buying by itself which is the use cases I can't see a purpose for.
Can i have it PLEASE!!
That's a lot of data to loose.
why do so many folks confuse 'lose' with 'loose'...???!!!!!!!
WTF!! I must be the dumbest person on earth to trust 22tb of data on one drive. It better be for archiving on a tape drive.
That motor is gonna burn out in no time
Big capacity and a tiny little spigot to transfer data back and forth. Perfect. Not! This should be a thunderbolt drive. Unless you want to wait 2 weeks to transfer your data. Fail.
you are not going to get much more than 220- MB/sec from a spinning drive no matter what exact interface speed you connect it to...; it's not as if it is going to suddenly be able to deliver data at THunderbolt speeds...
Excessively expensive SMR crap from WDC. Those disk scores were miserable for real world random access operations!!
Bad timing to give Western Digital ANY love after their service outage for 3-weeks.
Lon, you've given them a pass and should call them out.
I have stated multiple times that I don't recommend using any NAS provider's cloud storage/connections.
@@LonSeidman But this company also stood by while my "My Book" was erased by hackers. Their response was lame.
I will beg bit buy their network solutions.
This drive does not have network connectivity. You're referring to the old "My Book Live" NAS. Nearly all major NAS manufacturers have had some kind of vulnerability that resulted in lost customer data. Best to keep them safely locked behind a router/firewall and use a VPN if you need outside access. Here's a piece I did on the topic: czcams.com/video/LiegbTlC_Nc/video.html
The entire purpose of an external hard rive is to protect your data, you shouldn't need a back up plan! It's like having a back up plan to car insurance, the insurance is supposed to be your back up plan. PS if your device fails and it's their fault they wont pay for data recovery. DON'T BUY MY BOOK
No thanks. Owned two of the things and they both failed.
NEVER BUY THIS DRIVE... I just had to cut mine open 2 weeks ago and pull out the hard drive then connect it to a Linux based computer to get to my data, all because Western digital go hacked and was down for a week.. Because of the hack, my password and account were gone and the whole WD website was gone... now I run the drive as an external drive on my mac.
This is unrelated to the network drive you're referring to.
Consider that most PC's or Laptop's have around 256GB - 1TB of capacity and you want to do backup only, a 22TB is over the top. If you further want move data off your PC and what not you have no backup, unless you buy another device to backup the backup device.
Redundant backups are always recommended.
Western digital drives suck. I've had too many fail. Will never use their products again.
Conversely, I have always had very good luck with WD drive, some still running daily after decades. A few have gone bad, at random. As always, multiple layers of backups.
@@KameraShy I just had too many fail over the years for me to trust them anymore. Multiple layers of backups are indeed essential regardless of the brand you use. They just left a bad taste in my mouth. Personal preference is all.
sorry man, but it is between choice cholera vs plague
seagate also suffer with same problem, from my experience seagate is worse than wd
other are more ssd than hdd like samsung
its obvious that you guys didnt really tried it on a game console, xbox will surely make it work, playstation however will refuse to format the drive even with a ps5. I tried this with a 16tb external hdd, I dont think itll make a difference with a larger capacity one.
Xbox max size is 16TB so you'd be spending a lot more without being able to make use of the extra space.
@@LonSeidman So they use 16 TBs with the game console. Is that as one partition or more? If the xbox allows one partition to be for itself then any additional partitions are for PC use.
@@IraQNid I don't think it's all that practical to use this drive in that way. Especially given how cheap storage is. Buy one for the console and another for the PC>
I would never get one of these without it being in RAID doing duplication
And another to back it up.
Country of manufacture??
Thailand on the drive
If you have any credibility DO NOT RECOMMEND this drive. I've read reviews on Adorama and many people have stated their drives failed around the 6th month period. One guy said he is on his 4th one!!! There is no chance in hell I'd purchase one of these drives after reading those reviews.
3.8 stars our of 5 is GARBAGE!!!