Dropping by halfway through 2020, this mouse still functions perfectly fine for me after all these years. Swapped it for more a newer mouse with more buttons and some RGB, but the G402 still works great as a backup mouse. Highly recommend this one if you want a mouse that's cheaper than the current G502s or newer.
Bro that shit was obsolete even in when you wrote this in 2020, it's one of the worst gaming mice made by a big brand that I've ever used weighing 144 grams and having squeaky side buttons. The side buttons are also in a really shit position compared to a normal mouse like an xm1 or Viper mini, and there's literally no room on the left click button. Also this shit is so annoying to take apart, there are like 20 screws in total in the whole mouse. The scroll wheel is also just fucking terrible, it's stiff and the last thing I would call satisfying. Also the sensor is so old it spins out on my Artisan Raiden mouse pad (it's the v2)
@@yhiz4757 Luck of the draw then? Cuz sounds like we had opposite experiences with it. I never tried taking it apart completely though so can't speak on that part. Right now mine is finally starting to break down (double click issue on the right mouse button only) but it been years at this point.
@@UrAverageGamer9000 The side buttons are the only issue on my side that you don't have is the squeaky side button. Everything else applies. It's an absolute brick weighing 144g (NOT GOOD THERES NO ADVANTAGE TO HEAVY MICE AT ALL) and the side buttons have a shit shape and are inconvenient to press. The sensor spins out on my Artisan Raiden mouse pad because it's known to spin out on REALLY old/bad sensors but thats basically a non issue now but somehow this spins out which just shows how old it is
@@yhiz4757 the weight is your personal problem. We are all different, i love my g402 and i have to tell you after 6 years its still works great, no squicky buttons, everything works just fine. I use it every day, sometimes 2 hours sometimes 8 hours.
@@atesz567 feel sorry for the fact that you still think heavy mice are good after 6 years Theres only objective disadvantages to a mouse being a heavy mice, no advantages.
buggld Well here in Mexico, but the prices tend to vary drastically so i couldn't tell you, you can try amazon or newegg perhaps they have good deals there in case you're from US.
Liked the video in the intro, it was hilarious. Thank you for the laughs, The sensible perspective, and the kind of testing that matters. Shattering the illusion use of the marketing terminology. You guys are awesome.
Nice review. I don't understand this "who has the mouse with the most dpi" competition. Has anyone here maxed his (gaming) mouse's sensitivity? I use 2000 dpi in usual desktop applications and 1100 for most shooters. Edit: I am at 600 dpi (and 1.84 in CS:GO) now
Slick is talking about the mice with 8000+ DPI and the G502 that is 12000 DPI. It basically isn't necessary unless you have some crazy 4k multi monitor setup.
G402, the fusion engine might help a little. G502, if you move really fast, sometimes, i mean sometimes, the mouse will go insane and aim you at a weird angle.
Just wanted to say that I'm really liking Luke's solo reviews while Linus is away. I hope when Linus returns, he'll let Luke do some more of these reviews by himself. As much as I like Linus, I find Luke's outlook on products much less abrasive, and I find myself enjoying the videos more. Great video as always anyway guys, keep it up.
It's been two weeks I'm using this mouse and all I can say is it improved my aiming so much. Head shots with deags are piece of cake now. Also no matter how fast you can move the mouse this shit follows accurately. For the price and the quality I think its the best you can get.
Yassine EL AZMI As a CS:GO player that is looking for their first gaming mouse, I am now torn between G502 and G402, leaning towards the latter. And then when I think I've made my decision, there come the people who vouch for Zowie or Razer Deathadder. HELP! ;_;
Naomi J. Well I've never tried these but I think they are a little bit overpriced the g402 fits well with all hand sizes the buttons feels great the software is easy to use extra buttons fully customisable and it's accurate as hell. And crazy thousands dpi you won't need them anyway since you'll drop it to 800
+Naomi J. I have the g502 and I have quite large hands. like most reviews point out the 402 is a tad smaller than the g502. the 502 has a larger thumbrest and is a tiny bit longer. never used the 402 (have felt the grip in a store though) but I am 100% convinced I would turn the "fusion" engine off.
+Naomi J. I have the g502 and I have quite large hands. like most reviews point out the 402 is a tad smaller than the g502. the 502 has a larger thumbrest and is a tiny bit longer. never used the 402 (have felt the grip in a store though) but I am 100% convinced I would turn the "fusion" engine off.
Bought this mouse after a hard look at the reviews and other mouses I wanted to try out. So far after two months of around 6-12hrs a day gaming, I can say so far I have no issue, it slides and feels great with my SteelSeries mouse pad. The on the fly DPI settings are great when switching games without just going to menu's all the time(preferably switching from CSGO to League). Thanks for the review I can honestly say this mouse has been great experience so far :D!
Got this in early 2016 And still works fine in 2023 This mouse is really durable idk how many times the mouse fell down etc. Even the rubber grip on the mouse didnt get sticky over time lol
Logitechs higher end mice are amazing. Ive had the Performance MX for about 3 years and its still going strong, never a wireless issue, reaches rooms apart wirelessly, and works on any surface. ITs going to take a lot to get me off the Performance MX.
Copy & pasted from one of the many places you get the fix (works for F3 too). fForegroundMouseAccelBase=0 fForegroundMouseAccelTop=0 fForegroundMouseBase=0 fForegroundMouseMult=0 ... need to go in your Fallout_default.ini under controls. Just copy and paste them in there under "bBackground Keyboard=1", or whatever the last line in controls is Simple, and I agree. The mouse acceleration in the Fallout games is awful, until you do this. ;-)
Dave Tacitus Must be a new version+fresh install because the .ini you say I should change doesnt exist anywhere on my computer. I've sent steam a very strong letter about this already with no reply yet. There are other game breaking problems with the control and movement. I just want my money back.
I really like your reviews Luke and the quality they got to, thanks for that. High DPI mouses still have advantages I have summed up in my other comment... I have the G502 and I'm happy with it, play with 2950 DPI and sometimes higher if situations require me to do so, (like in vehicles).
CelmorSmith You are right! But at the same time we passed 3000 DPI on a fairly average mouse a LONG time ago! The DPI race is over, we need companies to focus on other issues
Wiktor Jurek For my Use-Case the G502 is perfect but I don't know what's suitable for your situation. I have a finger-tip grip, press relatively hard on the buttons and need those extra programmable buttons and I have already a Logitech keyboard which uses the same Logitech Gaming Software. The review that convinced me that I should go for that mouse from overclock.net is really well made and you should read into it if you consider buying the G502: www.overclock.net/t/1481639/logitech-g502-proteus-core-gaming-mouse-review-by-ino
Wiktor Jurek Luke Lafreniere As I watched this Video and saw the new features in Logitech Gaming Software I wished Logitech wouldn't reserve these shown features to costumers buying there new products. You mostly see these new features in the Software only if you have their new product, like the IPS-meter but I think it was only easy to implement because of the Accelerometer (or what the right them for that sensor is). But what I think is awesome is that my G502 just today got a firmware update that provides more options for the LED, easier accessibility for that and fixing of some issues. The Logitech peripheral Product I'm using, the G710+ which is actually an older product, seems not to have needed a firmware update yet and is the only mechanical keyboard from Logitech still.
I pretty much struggled my entire gaming career to get accurate mouse movement and enough processing power so that I could use low sensitivity without mouse falling behind, which was so rare that I had to sacrifice comfort and use the most horrible mouse shapes out there.. God bless you for making those properties known to everyone, hopefully gamers will see the difference and demand quality from manufacturers. I was long ago a serious gamer, and I still strongly believe that a mouse manufacturer that wants to be taken seriously, need to stop advertising the DPI and start focusing on mouse movement acuracy at any speeds. You have no idea how frustrating it was to know that someone is behind you in counter strike, and in the same time you knew that if you make an extremely fast swing to turn 180 in an instant, your mouse will not make it... GZ guys for your ideas.
Modern gaming sensors in general shouldn't have that problem. That is, mice that use a 3310, s3988, 3366, and maybe the s3888. Some 3090s are okay too. The sensor in the mouse, the AM010, normally doesn't have that great of tracking speed, but for the G402 Logitech coupled it with an accelerometer thing which has no problem even with absurd speeds no one should be able to reach.
NukeMeBaby1MoreTime It sounds like what he was complaining about was tracking speed, which older Zowie mice that used the 3090 sensor (and a custom lens) had problems with. Only recently did they update their old EC series to use the 3310 sensor instead.
Ah, right. About that, I have the Zowie FK and I play with very low sensitivity and tend to drag my mouse with utmost speed through my mouse mat at times yet never have I had any problems with tracking. But I'm not an MLG pro 1337 player so I'd not know :) If you ask me, it's all about marketing, adding unnecessary qualities to your product to butter up your customers and making them think they actually need some feature that prevents an issue that occurs when using your mouse with superhuman behaviour. I'm so pleased and in love with my simple mouse.
There are very simple ways to measure the need of high tracking speed by using a very simple concept. You don't need to be a pro gamer to have a sensitivity as low as to turn 180 degrees in a fps game by moving your mouse for 35 cm, which is pretty much the entire surface of a decent sized mousepad. Is this just marketing? I doubt it. However the DPI race is marketing. There are solid proofs that DPI can harm your performance if you put it too high, as it works against your sensitivity to very small movements that are very much needed to get that headshot. Unfortunately there are too many young players that are still trying to understand why companies put high DPI on their devices, and takes them very long to understand that is just a marketing gimmik. There isn't any interest to let those players evolve faster to the level of pro players, for obvious reasons. Unfortunately this makes it bad for the entire world in terms of device quality, and creates a portal to allow marketing gimmiks happen. So to make it even more obvious, if you cannot move your mouse in an instant to turn 180 degrees ingame by moving your mouse from one side to the other of a 35-40 cm mousepad, then your mouse is just too bad for being called a fps gaming mouse or a general gaming mouse, and should be called accordingly (mmo, or whatever, that doesn't require fast swipes).
I just bought a Logitech G100s mouse today, and really love the shape of it. I'm used to claw gripping my mice, but I've found that the fingertip grip I use to hold the G100s is as comfortable, if not more so. If Logitech decided to release a G102 with the same sensor found in the G402, I'll buy three of them.
Ive been using the Logitech G402 for over half a year now and my mouse movements are extremely fast in csgo(800dpi-1.2ingame) but i honestly dont think that its because of the mouse. The mouse is so heavy that i always have cramps in my hand after a 10hour gaming session. There is one thing I REALLY like about this mouse, the right side were my thumb is. The mouse never falls or slips out of my hand because of the good shape. I downgraded to the g402 from a Razer Death Adder Elite which i bought last year. The Reason i did that is because of the Death Adders Sides, theyre too slipery and the rubber on the sides dont provide any better grip for me, they just make it harder to pick the mouse up because if u have sweaty hands and the rubber gets wet it literally feels slipy af. With the G402 i never have problems, the mouse always stays in my hand doesnt matter if my hand was fully wet. So to come to a end i would say the G402 is almost perfect, I think the mouse is way too heavy and it should definatily be under 85 grams for comfortable use. The shape is a little bit smaller than the Zowie FK1 but i would make the G402 even a little bit more smaller for more comfortable use(I have 18cm Hands).
I think luke is getting better at this whole video thing. I really liked the misc things going on like the whipping of the mouse, and the random bb gun walk through. also, I run my Razer Naga Epic at 1600 dpi with the acceleration on 1 according to their Razer Synapse 2.0 software.
I've been playing CS:GO with this mouse for a couple weeks now. Overall build quality and sensor responsiveness is GREAT. No acceleration and with the right settings, it's become one of the best mice I've used playing GO. That being said, the only negative aspect I've experienced so far are the side DPI buttons. They are comfortable, but they jut out in a way that, when going for the "quick flick", tend to hit the side of my keyboard, adjusting my DPI. I could change my DPI settings through the Logitech software so that all intervals are set to 400, but that would defeat the purpose of one of the main features of the mouse, the ability to lower your DPI by holding the quick DPI switch button, restoring your original DPI upon release, which is perfect for scoped rifles. I use the largest Steelseries mouse pad offered, so it's not a spacing issue, so if you're interested in purchasing this mouse, keep this in mind. Overall, definitely worth it. 9/10.
If you don't like the DPI switch buttons getting accidentally clicked, just switch the DPI switch buttons to something else that wouldn't mess up your gameplay. Then, assign different buttons for DPI switches.
lol i'm about to buy it myself! I run the G700s but the left switch is now developing that stupid Logitech switch issue. Is there any thing with mouse i should know before pulling the trigger? How are the secondary buttons, if you dont mind me asking!
saw a Logitech g402 and the g502 at goodwill for $2.99 brand new still in package. always check secondhand stores you will be surprised what you can find for under $5.
Its a very enjoyable mouse,no acceleration. i didnt think the dpi up, down, and low buttons would be used much but i use them all the time. The mouse feels great in my hand and i love the look of the mouse. Id say buy this mouse. Im very happy with mine. The two thumbs buttons are placed well and i like the breathing mode on the led.
i switched to this mouse recently and i am in love. it feels great in hand and never fails me in counterstrike. i have also never once had it make me look straight up in the air yet. killer mouse on amazon.
I have the 502 and I love it, I personally find the free scroll wheel made and extra buttons really useful. But if you don't care / need or want these features then the 402 is just great. Logitech seems to be the less flashy but higher performing brand to go with right now!
the mx518/g400/g400s are imo the best mice on the market simple for the fact of a flawless sensor and extremely comfortable... so if its working why change?
I'm sold. I came across this mouse in a mag yesterday and they highly recommended it, after watching this video (Great vid by the way) I think I'll pick one up :-) Thanks for the very comprehensive run through.
I'm late to this particular game, but someone might pick up on it at some point.... I'm a Linux gamer. (cough, cough, splutter)... yeah, right, take the mick why don't you. But all this fancy stuff needs software to drive it, and it's Windows only. I'm currently getting a G402 and I'm praying that the defaults are going to be reasonable 'cause I can't change them. However, what I'd really like to see is some hardware which I'd term more, "classic," as in decent basic features and focusing on quality, rather than eye catching features like RGB crappy thingies (yeah, that's a technical term) that people are going to turn off after half an hour anyways. I always have minor nightmares about getting keyboards, mice and stuff that's going to play nice with Linux. I'd love manufacturers to go for a, "classics," range that they focus on long term, and are self-supporting with the money going for the overall quality, rather than fancy eye candy. In case you're wondering my current mouse is a G400 and keyboard is Ducky Zero, running Cherry browns with blue LED. I also use a Razor Destructor (version 1, it's that old) mouse mat. Video on Linux friendly hardware would be mucho kudos please.
ohhk your comment is 4 months old but anyways I am planning to buy this mouse and I think all Logitech G series mouse support onboard memory to store firmware and you can always edit that in the software so my point being that you can always use someone elses windows computer to install the software and customize your mice's buttons as you like and then just plug and play on your Linux :)
That's exactly what I did :-) - but if us Linux types keep working around this stuff, then the manufacturers carry on thinking that we don't exist, or have no interest in their products... so never do anything. It's only by kicking up a stink that people know we're out here :-D
msknight5 ahhh I knew it you would've figured it out after all you not only know about Linux but actually prefer it and use it. And on the existence note i am still waiting for companies like adobe to make their programs for Linux or maybe some new company to make well polished programs so that I can officially switch to Linux mint full time :P but what to do I need to use a single os for coding and designing at a time and recently started using Sketch on MacOs which means now switching between windows and Linux got another twist with MacOS being added in the list. 2 Devices 3 OS. 1 Mobile Phone 1 Tablet It's getting complicated day by day. But I still hope that one day i'll be able to use one OS on all devices. Now only an awesome Sketch like app for Linux is holding me up from using it as my main and only OS.
Anant Gulia A number of manufacturers are chasing this. Shuttleworth still has his dream, although getting there is slower than he anticipated. The original Motorola phone dock station is starting to become a reality; Win 10 is now small enough to run headless on a Pi... the next five years are definitely requiring higher quality popcorn...
i bought one, its awesome, the only thing i regret is not getting the g502, because of the braided cable, it helps make moving the mouse fast and long distanced seamless.
Happened to me to, in fact, im writing this write after fixing, my scroll wheel and middle mouse button (push down on wheel) stopped working, for me, i simply took the top part of the shell of and tested the mmb, wich worked fine in my Minecraft test, and then i placed the shell back on, to test the scroll wheel, and then it worked. Suprised my self there! Heres a disassembly tutorial (Just came from one xD)! czcams.com/video/B_IfebeHWwQ/video.html
Overall, the G402 is bigger than the typical mouse and required a mouse wrist pad to keep my hand on it instead of dragging behind it, and I wear men's size L gloves. What I don't like is the flawed design. The context button (R mouse button) tends to stick in the down position. It still works but it just doesn't go, 'click', or have any tactile feel of being pressed. The button gets stuck on it's own housing is the reason why it sticks. So often I end up double clicking on it. Right out of the original sealed box the mouse wheel rolled as if it was rolling through sand. There was quite the audible grinding noise when it turned and it even turned in a rough manner. But as for acceleration and DPI crap they seem to want to go on and on about. Higher isn't better and though I do change my DPI on the fly for some applications for gaming it isn't a good thing as we get better control with low DPI. I'd rather go the distance to get accurate target locks, then overshoot a target with barely a twitch of the mouse.
I went from a Naga 2014 to a Proteus Core 502 and have been pleased. I have small hands so finding a gaming mouse that fits my hands can be quite the challenge. However, this fits me fine just like the G9 did back in the day. The sensor is great, comfortable to use and seems well built. Yes, some of the complaints about the mouse being slightly heavy and blue as the only color choice are valid. However, I'm more than willing to live with that for the great mouse that it is.
idk for overwatch , but from my friends exeperience g502 really worth it . of course its depend on your budget . if u have more money buy 502 . if not , 402
I considered buying the 502 and did not specifically because it had adjustable weights etc that I knew I would never use. This 402 will definitely be near the top of my list when I need a new mouse.
Ordered. The thing I love on Logitech is that you aren´t wasting that much on a brand. Like Razer. It looks very nice and I can´t wait to play CS with it. Good work Logitech :)
Awesome review. I was thinking about picking up a G402 for my MSI GT70 gaming laptop for a on-the-go mouse, but the G700s went on sale for only 70$ Canadian on NCIX so I couldn't pass it up. I love this mouse and I'm glad I got it instead because of the wireless capability with the performance of a high end wired mouse.
that intro was the best thing ive ever seen
Same.
cringe
CookPiggy 'haHAA' "cringe"
I bought mine at Lazada though. it's only 20$ lol
Lazada link : ho.lazada.com.ph/SHZizF
Stanley Johnson yea totally the best intro
"in order to pull that super sick 360 noscope at the end of your mega dope montage video"
Wow. 10/10.
69th comment
0:00-0:05 when you use 1 DPI
Jesus he is a legend ;)
100th like to your comment
Now sub to me
I’ve tried 1 DPI before I had to move my arm wayyy more than that (I have a padzilla)
me also with a .12 sensitivity
KC Vogs i play with 400 mouse dpi, 1.2 in game sensitivity in CSGO
I basically play like that, but less exaggerated
Dropping by halfway through 2020, this mouse still functions perfectly fine for me after all these years. Swapped it for more a newer mouse with more buttons and some RGB, but the G402 still works great as a backup mouse. Highly recommend this one if you want a mouse that's cheaper than the current G502s or newer.
Bro that shit was obsolete even in when you wrote this in 2020, it's one of the worst gaming mice made by a big brand that I've ever used weighing 144 grams and having squeaky side buttons. The side buttons are also in a really shit position compared to a normal mouse like an xm1 or Viper mini, and there's literally no room on the left click button. Also this shit is so annoying to take apart, there are like 20 screws in total in the whole mouse. The scroll wheel is also just fucking terrible, it's stiff and the last thing I would call satisfying. Also the sensor is so old it spins out on my Artisan Raiden mouse pad (it's the v2)
@@yhiz4757 Luck of the draw then? Cuz sounds like we had opposite experiences with it.
I never tried taking it apart completely though so can't speak on that part. Right now mine is finally starting to break down (double click issue on the right mouse button only) but it been years at this point.
@@UrAverageGamer9000 The side buttons are the only issue on my side that you don't have is the squeaky side button. Everything else applies. It's an absolute brick weighing 144g (NOT GOOD THERES NO ADVANTAGE TO HEAVY MICE AT ALL) and the side buttons have a shit shape and are inconvenient to press. The sensor spins out on my Artisan Raiden mouse pad because it's known to spin out on REALLY old/bad sensors but thats basically a non issue now but somehow this spins out which just shows how old it is
@@yhiz4757 the weight is your personal problem. We are all different, i love my g402 and i have to tell you after 6 years its still works great, no squicky buttons, everything works just fine. I use it every day, sometimes 2 hours sometimes 8 hours.
@@atesz567 feel sorry for the fact that you still think heavy mice are good after 6 years
Theres only objective disadvantages to a mouse being a heavy mice, no advantages.
00:00 Mongraal doing 90s in fortnite XD.
ya know that mongraal is using this mouse
oh yeah yeah i’m pretty sure that’s why he made the joke...
@@ajaysidhu3510 pls tell me ur joking xd
Yea because he has a low sensitivity
STAR REBORN No shit
Logitech > Razer
would rather have a razer mousepad though, looks cooler.
Annoytanor I have a plain black mousemat from Steelseries.
I have a razer goliathus, it's really nice, looks nice, feels nice and has a braided edge unlike most other mouse mats
Every brand > Razer
I have a G400s And I like it,Reliability is more Imp to me than fancy lights.
0:00 me when awping
XD
sha256 Me with my low sensitivity, and an office mouse, and then ending up looking at the sky because of my low sensitivity plus office mouse combo.
bestiebest well, Russians have ground aimbot enabled. (csgo russian compilation)
sha256 i have a high sense
Lol
I just got this mouse. 40 bucks. Amazon. totally worth it.
Yeah you can get good deals on Amazon ;D
I guess it has gone down in price a lot, i got it for $25
Karambit Doppler Where?? I'm looking for a new mouse..
buggld Well here in Mexico, but the prices tend to vary drastically so i couldn't tell you, you can try amazon or newegg perhaps they have good deals there in case you're from US.
Just got it for 34 can't wait to use it
Liked the video in the intro, it was hilarious. Thank you for the laughs, The sensible perspective, and the kind of testing that matters. Shattering the illusion use of the marketing terminology. You guys are awesome.
mastur-badminton skills rofl :D
:D
+GamePlay33 holy shit me too
lmao
U meant to say something else, didn't ya?!
@ where is that part??
Nice review. I don't understand this "who has the mouse with the most dpi" competition. Has anyone here maxed his (gaming) mouse's sensitivity? I use 2000 dpi in usual desktop applications and 1100 for most shooters.
Edit: I am at 600 dpi (and 1.84 in CS:GO) now
I use 4000 when not playing games, or 3000.
Slick is talking about the mice with 8000+ DPI and the G502 that is 12000 DPI. It basically isn't necessary unless you have some crazy 4k multi monitor setup.
Apansyy Yes? I don't think that was unclear to anyone.
It's usually for multi-monitor when you can adjust the x axis higher so it won't take forever to move the cursor across the screens.
Bananahead88 Oops, I quickly read over your comment and I thought you were quoting Slick, my bad.
I picked this over the Razer deathadder, it was a tough decision, but I feel I made the correct one.
good choice
+Gojirha Same here, best choice ever. And it's cheaper where I'm from.
+Gojirha i got the 402 for $33 from where i live. More than satisfied :3
+Gojirha
Same here. Fugen double click of DA.
Gojirha I have used plenty of mice, and Razer mice do usually suck. However, the deathadder is an exceptional mouse.
When I saw Linus for the first time, I immediately thought to myself: "This is a master badminton player."
1:55 is that an SSD just laying around? lol
Damn how times have changed lol
G402, the fusion engine might help a little.
G502, if you move really fast, sometimes, i mean sometimes, the mouse will go insane and aim you at a weird angle.
So is the G502 better than the G402?
Bona why
@@justwhy3007 muscle memory
Just wanted to say that I'm really liking Luke's solo reviews while Linus is away. I hope when Linus returns, he'll let Luke do some more of these reviews by himself. As much as I like Linus, I find Luke's outlook on products much less abrasive, and I find myself enjoying the videos more. Great video as always anyway guys, keep it up.
Got this for $20 on sale from Best Buy. Used it for about a week. It's pretty damn good!
It's been two weeks I'm using this mouse and all I can say is it improved my aiming so much. Head shots with deags are piece of cake now.
Also no matter how fast you can move the mouse this shit follows accurately.
For the price and the quality I think its the best you can get.
Yassine EL AZMI As a CS:GO player that is looking for their first gaming mouse, I am now
torn between G502 and G402, leaning towards the latter. And then when I
think I've made my decision, there come the people who vouch for Zowie
or Razer Deathadder. HELP! ;_;
Naomi J. Well I've never tried these but I think they are a little bit overpriced the g402 fits well with all hand sizes the buttons feels great the software is easy to use extra buttons fully customisable and it's accurate as hell.
And crazy thousands dpi you won't need them anyway since you'll drop it to 800
+Naomi J. I have the g502 and I have quite large hands. like most reviews point out the 402 is a tad smaller than the g502. the 502 has a larger thumbrest and is a tiny bit longer. never used the 402 (have felt the grip in a store though) but I am 100% convinced I would turn the "fusion" engine off.
+Naomi J. I have the g502 and I have quite large hands. like most reviews point out the 402 is a tad smaller than the g502. the 502 has a larger thumbrest and is a tiny bit longer. never used the 402 (have felt the grip in a store though) but I am 100% convinced I would turn the "fusion" engine off.
+Yassine EL AZMI does it have any problems so far?
Bought this mouse after a hard look at the reviews and other mouses I wanted to try out. So far after two months of around 6-12hrs a day gaming, I can say so far I have no issue, it slides and feels great with my SteelSeries mouse pad. The on the fly DPI settings are great when switching games without just going to menu's all the time(preferably switching from CSGO to League). Thanks for the review I can honestly say this mouse has been great experience so far :D!
Hope you aren't still using this abomination XD
I just picked this up for around $21 bucks and it's still probably the best value in gaming mouses right now.
Same
They should do a borderlands skin on it with the Hyperion branding xD
Won't be buying this mouse, who knows if Handsome Jack put a mini bomb in there. XD
GriggsCk Gaming Using this right now, no bomb detected.
The Jolly Good Jester Then it's worse, he is spying you, then he will turn the mouse into loader bot and kill you :P
haha yes
I hope Logitech makes a rehash of this with a braided cable and RGB.
I still use this mouse, having bought it 6 years ago on their recommendation
Really
Got this in early 2016
And still works fine in 2023
This mouse is really durable idk how many times the mouse fell down etc. Even the rubber grip on the mouse didnt get sticky over time lol
Logitechs higher end mice are amazing. Ive had the Performance MX for about 3 years and its still going strong, never a wireless issue, reaches rooms apart wirelessly, and works on any surface. ITs going to take a lot to get me off the Performance MX.
Liked, commented, subscribed, unliked and liked again, rubbed one out, etc. etc.
Just for the three seconds that were: 2:35 - 2:38
XD
Pull that super sick 360 noscope at the end of your dope montage video
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FALLOUT NEW VEGAS WILL NOT LET YOU DISABLE SOFTWAR MOUSE ACCEL... it renders the thing unplayable
Copy & pasted from one of the many places you get the fix (works for F3 too).
fForegroundMouseAccelBase=0
fForegroundMouseAccelTop=0
fForegroundMouseBase=0
fForegroundMouseMult=0
... need to go in your Fallout_default.ini under controls. Just copy and paste them in there under "bBackground Keyboard=1", or whatever the last line in controls is
Simple, and I agree. The mouse acceleration in the Fallout games is awful, until you do this. ;-)
Yeah but the launcher and steam overwrite that file EVERY TIME YOU LAUNCH THE GAME.... no longer a viable fix.
also, that file is now Fallout.ini no defaults or anything. I am not a moron. I have searched all over for a fix.
Always worked for me. The file is in your main Fallout folder, not the My Games folder - I'm looking at it right now and it doesn't change for me.
Dave Tacitus Must be a new version+fresh install because the .ini you say I should change doesnt exist anywhere on my computer. I've sent steam a very strong letter about this already with no reply yet. There are other game breaking problems with the control and movement. I just want my money back.
Just bought one. Didn't know that this mouse is that old XD
I really like your reviews Luke and the quality they got to, thanks for that.
High DPI mouses still have advantages I have summed up in my other comment...
I have the G502 and I'm happy with it, play with 2950 DPI and sometimes higher if situations require me to do so, (like in vehicles).
CelmorSmith You are right! But at the same time we passed 3000 DPI on a fairly average mouse a LONG time ago! The DPI race is over, we need companies to focus on other issues
Hey! Would you recommend the g502? I've been using a generic microsoft mouse over the past 5 years and I feel like I need a change.
Wiktor Jurek For my Use-Case the G502 is perfect but I don't know what's suitable for your situation.
I have a finger-tip grip, press relatively hard on the buttons and need those extra programmable buttons and I have already a Logitech keyboard which uses the same Logitech Gaming Software.
The review that convinced me that I should go for that mouse from overclock.net is really well made and you should read into it if you consider buying the G502:
www.overclock.net/t/1481639/logitech-g502-proteus-core-gaming-mouse-review-by-ino
Wiktor Jurek Luke Lafreniere As I watched this Video and saw the new features in Logitech Gaming Software I wished Logitech wouldn't reserve these shown features to costumers buying there new products. You mostly see these new features in the Software only if you have their new product, like the IPS-meter but I think it was only easy to implement because of the Accelerometer (or what the right them for that sensor is). But what I think is awesome is that my G502 just today got a firmware update that provides more options for the LED, easier accessibility for that and fixing of some issues.
The Logitech peripheral Product I'm using, the G710+ which is actually an older product, seems not to have needed a firmware update yet and is the only mechanical keyboard from Logitech still.
That intro: when your DPI is lower than your self esteem
1 dpi-
Thats me in the intro when I play Osu!
Lol I play Osu on fairly high dpi, about 3000. Else my arm would die for that exact same reason xD
I pretty much struggled my entire gaming career to get accurate mouse movement and enough processing power so that I could use low sensitivity without mouse falling behind, which was so rare that I had to sacrifice comfort and use the most horrible mouse shapes out there.. God bless you for making those properties known to everyone, hopefully gamers will see the difference and demand quality from manufacturers. I was long ago a serious gamer, and I still strongly believe that a mouse manufacturer that wants to be taken seriously, need to stop advertising the DPI and start focusing on mouse movement acuracy at any speeds. You have no idea how frustrating it was to know that someone is behind you in counter strike, and in the same time you knew that if you make an extremely fast swing to turn 180 in an instant, your mouse will not make it... GZ guys for your ideas.
Modern gaming sensors in general shouldn't have that problem. That is, mice that use a 3310, s3988, 3366, and maybe the s3888. Some 3090s are okay too.
The sensor in the mouse, the AM010, normally doesn't have that great of tracking speed, but for the G402 Logitech coupled it with an accelerometer thing which has no problem even with absurd speeds no one should be able to reach.
Just get a Zowie product instead lol
NukeMeBaby1MoreTime It sounds like what he was complaining about was tracking speed, which older Zowie mice that used the 3090 sensor (and a custom lens) had problems with. Only recently did they update their old EC series to use the 3310 sensor instead.
Ah, right. About that, I have the Zowie FK and I play with very low sensitivity and tend to drag my mouse with utmost speed through my mouse mat at times yet never have I had any problems with tracking. But I'm not an MLG pro 1337 player so I'd not know :)
If you ask me, it's all about marketing, adding unnecessary qualities to your product to butter up your customers and making them think they actually need some feature that prevents an issue that occurs when using your mouse with superhuman behaviour. I'm so pleased and in love with my simple mouse.
There are very simple ways to measure the need of high tracking speed by using a very simple concept. You don't need to be a pro gamer to have a sensitivity as low as to turn 180 degrees in a fps game by moving your mouse for 35 cm, which is pretty much the entire surface of a decent sized mousepad. Is this just marketing? I doubt it. However the DPI race is marketing. There are solid proofs that DPI can harm your performance if you put it too high, as it works against your sensitivity to very small movements that are very much needed to get that headshot.
Unfortunately there are too many young players that are still trying to understand why companies put high DPI on their devices, and takes them very long to understand that is just a marketing gimmik. There isn't any interest to let those players evolve faster to the level of pro players, for obvious reasons. Unfortunately this makes it bad for the entire world in terms of device quality, and creates a portal to allow marketing gimmiks happen.
So to make it even more obvious, if you cannot move your mouse in an instant to turn 180 degrees ingame by moving your mouse from one side to the other of a 35-40 cm mousepad, then your mouse is just too bad for being called a fps gaming mouse or a general gaming mouse, and should be called accordingly (mmo, or whatever, that doesn't require fast swipes).
I buy that mouse at 2015,Works Fantastic till now(2022)
I just bought a Logitech G100s mouse today, and really love the shape of it. I'm used to claw gripping my mice, but I've found that the fingertip grip I use to hold the G100s is as comfortable, if not more so. If Logitech decided to release a G102 with the same sensor found in the G402, I'll buy three of them.
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Why would I ever need glasses or tshirts if I spend all my time on my PC?
No. Seriously.
***** Oh yeah, and those, DOES GABEN SHAVE?
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But real nerds have beards, because we're to lazy to get up from the computer chair to shave all that often...
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Corsair K70 RGB + This mouse = Heaven
That’s what I have
This right here is exactly why I only buy Logitech, I love my G502 Proteus Core!
Ive been using the Logitech G402 for over half a year now and my mouse movements are extremely fast in csgo(800dpi-1.2ingame) but i honestly dont think that its because of the mouse.
The mouse is so heavy that i always have cramps in my hand after a 10hour gaming session. There is one thing I REALLY like about this mouse, the right side were my thumb is. The mouse never falls or slips out of my hand because of the good shape. I downgraded to the g402 from a Razer Death Adder Elite which i bought last year. The Reason i did that is because of the Death Adders Sides, theyre too slipery and the rubber on the sides dont provide any better grip for me, they just make it harder to pick the mouse up because if u have sweaty hands and the rubber gets wet it literally feels slipy af. With the G402 i never have problems, the mouse always stays in my hand doesnt matter if my hand was fully wet. So to come to a end i would say the G402 is almost perfect, I think the mouse is way too heavy and it should definatily be under 85 grams for comfortable use. The shape is a little bit smaller than the Zowie FK1 but i would make the G402 even a little bit more smaller for more comfortable use(I have 18cm Hands).
Bro if u have a problem with the deathadder side grips literally get grip tape for it lmao
Even though its years since i've used the mouse, i still remember it fondly. It's such a comfortable, good mouse that isnt even that expensive.
should I get one in 2018? I'm poor
Yeah, its a great mouse. My mouse broke and i used my old G402 for a week until i got a warranty replacement :D
But.... The G402 has a breathing mode... Why doesn't the G502? :( I want my G502 to breath... It's choking!
My G502 breathes......
wat.... WAT!?!?
mine is. It can be set up using the software
I can't find it.. Where is it?
go to Lighting settings on the software
i didnt expect you to hire mongraal for the intro
That intro lol'd edit: also I use the g400s and have acceleration turned off. Logitech is da best.
I have a 400s too, i was kind of disappointed.
I loved the G400, but my fingers are too long now so I can't palm grip. Getting a Rival soon to replace my crappy G500s.
I think luke is getting better at this whole video thing. I really liked the misc things going on like the whipping of the mouse, and the random bb gun walk through.
also, I run my Razer Naga Epic at 1600 dpi with the acceleration on 1 according to their Razer Synapse 2.0 software.
I've been playing CS:GO with this mouse for a couple weeks now. Overall build quality and sensor responsiveness is GREAT. No acceleration and with the right settings, it's become one of the best mice I've used playing GO. That being said, the only negative aspect I've experienced so far are the side DPI buttons. They are comfortable, but they jut out in a way that, when going for the "quick flick", tend to hit the side of my keyboard, adjusting my DPI. I could change my DPI settings through the Logitech software so that all intervals are set to 400, but that would defeat the purpose of one of the main features of the mouse, the ability to lower your DPI by holding the quick DPI switch button, restoring your original DPI upon release, which is perfect for scoped rifles. I use the largest Steelseries mouse pad offered, so it's not a spacing issue, so if you're interested in purchasing this mouse, keep this in mind. Overall, definitely worth it. 9/10.
If you don't like the DPI switch buttons getting accidentally clicked, just switch the DPI switch buttons to something else that wouldn't mess up your gameplay. Then, assign different buttons for DPI switches.
I prefer the more conservative G402.... thank you for reading my meaningless comment!
the 502 fits my hands better than the 402, a bit shorter, just enough to reach the dpi trigger
which one is linus, I'm new here
***** the one that has a high pitched voice sort of?
xp0lym4thx yes, the one that might seem a bit flamboyant
Wow no hate coments? Your lucky man
***** you forgot comments*
***** Maybe he owns a man who's lucky.
I still use this mouse to this day.
lol i'm about to buy it myself! I run the G700s but the left switch is now developing that stupid Logitech switch issue.
Is there any thing with mouse i should know before pulling the trigger? How are the secondary buttons, if you dont mind me asking!
Is the mouse good???
2021, bought a new pc, and I still use this mouse.
I just love it ❤️
Great review. Top explanation of acceleration. Luke you really are the new face for the channel.
Slick needs to continue with reviews.
BTW ppl watching in 2020 it's like 25 bucks now so it's on u
0:00 Trying to find your phone in the dark.
From using a Camera Slider to having LTT Labs, LMG grew up.
saw a Logitech g402 and the g502 at goodwill for $2.99 brand new still in package. always check secondhand stores you will be surprised what you can find for under $5.
i just purchased the g402 and im about to use it on bf4
How'd It Go?
Its a very enjoyable mouse,no acceleration. i didnt think the dpi up, down, and low buttons would be used much but i use them all the time. The mouse feels great in my hand and i love the look of the mouse. Id say buy this mouse. Im very happy with mine. The two thumbs buttons are placed well and i like the breathing mode on the led.
Oh, and i dont perceive any input lag with the mouse.
Daniel Worthey hey how's it serving for BF4?
Im a noob but its doing great
It might be all good, but if the sensor i-sent in the front it is just another fail Mouse, well unless you aim and write with your elbow that is.
after 6 years today i am buying this mouse
🤣🤣🤣
Lol same
Infact many are still buying
@Ahmed M no it’s just heavy
Waited for the price drop
i switched to this mouse recently and i am in love. it feels great in hand and never fails me in counterstrike. i have also never once had it make me look straight up in the air yet. killer mouse on amazon.
I have the 502 and I love it, I personally find the free scroll wheel made and extra buttons really useful. But if you don't care / need or want these features then the 402 is just great. Logitech seems to be the less flashy but higher performing brand to go with right now!
@@user-jw2yu7xm4p Logitech MX Master 2
5:46 mongraal cranking 90s
another G400 rebrand. Logitech....or so i thought.
Whaaa?
HEY! PRETTY MUCH EVERY PERIPHERAL COMPANY DOES THAT! WHAT ABOUT RAZER REBRANDING THE DEATHADDER AND STEELSERIES REBRANDING THE XAI!
4g3nt corsair
Logitech is good, but not as good as any other solution at same price points.....G400S and G105 KB user..."Buy it right or buy it twice"
the mx518/g400/g400s are imo the best mice on the market simple for the fact of a flawless sensor and extremely comfortable... so if its working why change?
Bought one cause this vid is too gud xD
JaggiHunter Greyfrill And, is it good ?
***** yeah.. $31.99.. spend $35 and it's free shipping.. CANNOT beat it as the G502 is still $62 bucks.. (and the G602 is $45.. NICE!)
I'm sold.
I came across this mouse in a mag yesterday and they highly recommended it, after watching this video (Great vid by the way) I think I'll pick one up :-) Thanks for the very comprehensive run through.
Crazy that my G402 I've kept as a backup mouse is starting to last long er than my g305, it does get the job done for me at least.
I'm late to this particular game, but someone might pick up on it at some point....
I'm a Linux gamer. (cough, cough, splutter)... yeah, right, take the mick why don't you. But all this fancy stuff needs software to drive it, and it's Windows only. I'm currently getting a G402 and I'm praying that the defaults are going to be reasonable 'cause I can't change them.
However, what I'd really like to see is some hardware which I'd term more, "classic," as in decent basic features and focusing on quality, rather than eye catching features like RGB crappy thingies (yeah, that's a technical term) that people are going to turn off after half an hour anyways.
I always have minor nightmares about getting keyboards, mice and stuff that's going to play nice with Linux. I'd love manufacturers to go for a, "classics," range that they focus on long term, and are self-supporting with the money going for the overall quality, rather than fancy eye candy. In case you're wondering my current mouse is a G400 and keyboard is Ducky Zero, running Cherry browns with blue LED. I also use a Razor Destructor (version 1, it's that old) mouse mat.
Video on Linux friendly hardware would be mucho kudos please.
ohhk your comment is 4 months old but anyways I am planning to buy this mouse and I think all Logitech G series mouse support onboard memory to store firmware and you can always edit that in the software so my point being that you can always use someone elses windows computer to install the software and customize your mice's buttons as you like and then just plug and play on your Linux :)
That's exactly what I did :-) - but if us Linux types keep working around this stuff, then the manufacturers carry on thinking that we don't exist, or have no interest in their products... so never do anything. It's only by kicking up a stink that people know we're out here :-D
msknight5 ahhh I knew it you would've figured it out after all you not only know about Linux but actually prefer it and use it. And on the existence note i am still waiting for companies like adobe to make their programs for Linux or maybe some new company to make well polished programs so that I can officially switch to Linux mint full time :P but what to do I need to use a single os for coding and designing at a time and recently started using Sketch on MacOs which means now switching between windows and Linux got another twist with MacOS being added in the list. 2 Devices 3 OS. 1 Mobile Phone 1 Tablet It's getting complicated day by day. But I still hope that one day i'll be able to use one OS on all devices. Now only an awesome Sketch like app for Linux is holding me up from using it as my main and only OS.
Anant Gulia
A number of manufacturers are chasing this. Shuttleworth still has his dream, although getting there is slower than he anticipated. The original Motorola phone dock station is starting to become a reality; Win 10 is now small enough to run headless on a Pi... the next five years are definitely requiring higher quality popcorn...
19£ on amazon right now
Its £20 now. What a bargain.
Who just had this mouse in 2019?
#JustGotEndYearPromo
its 2020 already
I recently got for 20 dollars and love it
@@OverloadZorpalod , Wow that's even better! Congrats mate
@Le Monke You get used to it and then it is a great experience.
I like what Logan said about people and braided mouse cables.
Mad respect for logitech. I have a g300s and I'm buying this for the button placement.
Luke is improving :-)
0:00-0:05 when mongraal plays creative
2:48 lmao
Just ordered this 😊
do you like it? i'm interested to buy this one or G304 wireless, i'm confused
i bought one, its awesome, the only thing i regret is not getting the g502, because of the braided cable, it helps make moving the mouse fast and long distanced seamless.
2021 anyone?
He already lived in 2019
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I agree.
After 6 months of normal use (around 3-4 hours after work), the scroll click stopped working.
Mine is working for 2 yrs nos after heavy use
Happened to me to, in fact, im writing this write after fixing, my scroll wheel and middle mouse button (push down on wheel) stopped working, for me, i simply took the top part of the shell of and tested the mmb, wich worked fine in my Minecraft test, and then i placed the shell back on, to test the scroll wheel, and then it worked.
Suprised my self there! Heres a disassembly tutorial (Just came from one xD)! czcams.com/video/B_IfebeHWwQ/video.html
Blow onto it. It works
3 years still the same as new
I am a big fan of the intros of Slick's review vids. Very entertaining.
Excellent test method Slick! Thanks for this, been looking into this mouse but wasn't quite sure about the zero-acceleration claims!
0:00-0:05 *Mongraal 1948 colorized.*
just stop, your joke doesnt even make sense
what the best g402 or g502 ?
g502
g700s
Darude - Sandstorm
G700s
Did you even take the effort of watching this video...?
why did u guys use fake money
drones12345 Hey don't hate on our advance plastic monopoly monies
Animurh he actually used paper canadian money not plastic
its Canadian
It's Canadian money... (And we know it looks like Monopoly money...)
Because Linus doesn't pay him enough to have a spare 20 buks :(
;)
Overall, the G402 is bigger than the typical mouse and required a mouse wrist pad to keep my hand on it instead of dragging behind it, and I wear men's size L gloves. What I don't like is the flawed design. The context button (R mouse button) tends to stick in the down position. It still works but it just doesn't go, 'click', or have any tactile feel of being pressed. The button gets stuck on it's own housing is the reason why it sticks. So often I end up double clicking on it.
Right out of the original sealed box the mouse wheel rolled as if it was rolling through sand. There was quite the audible grinding noise when it turned and it even turned in a rough manner. But as for acceleration and DPI crap they seem to want to go on and on about. Higher isn't better and though I do change my DPI on the fly for some applications for gaming it isn't a good thing as we get better control with low DPI. I'd rather go the distance to get accurate target locks, then overshoot a target with barely a twitch of the mouse.
I went from a Naga 2014 to a Proteus Core 502 and have been pleased. I have small hands so finding a gaming mouse that fits my hands can be quite the challenge. However, this fits me fine just like the G9 did back in the day. The sensor is great, comfortable to use and seems well built. Yes, some of the complaints about the mouse being slightly heavy and blue as the only color choice are valid. However, I'm more than willing to live with that for the great mouse that it is.
0:00 mongraal mode activated
0:00 when you set the sensitivity to 20%
502 or 402 better for fps game such as overwatch?
idk for overwatch , but from my friends exeperience g502 really worth it .
of course its depend on your budget . if u have more money buy 502 . if not , 402
+septian dzulfikar thanks
aare you palm claw or fingertip
I considered buying the 502 and did not specifically because it had adjustable weights etc that I knew I would never use. This 402 will definitely be near the top of my list when I need a new mouse.
Ordered. The thing I love on Logitech is that you aren´t wasting that much on a brand. Like Razer. It looks very nice and I can´t wait to play CS with it. Good work Logitech :)
An 8 min review and we hardly get a glimpse of the mice.
and i'm just sitting here using a 4$ mouse owning everyone :/
Same here xD
My mouse is $4, it's good for anything.
owning everyone in what? obviously you dont own in life coz you're poor.
lol i'm not poor at all I just don't waste money on a mouse
don't judge me by my mouse xxx
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thank you
Wow, Luke's mouse movement when gaming casually is beyond next level skill of pros. Nice Intro XD!
I lost it when Luke accidentally drove the mouse into the boxes. 10/10
3:36 lol
lmao
@@John-cv8rp tfw when that's how I play
LMFAO xD That Intro Got me
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Awesome review. I was thinking about picking up a G402 for my MSI GT70 gaming laptop for a on-the-go mouse, but the G700s went on sale for only 70$ Canadian on NCIX so I couldn't pass it up. I love this mouse and I'm glad I got it instead because of the wireless capability with the performance of a high end wired mouse.
I loved the humor in this video, can you do more like this? Excellent video. Keep up the good work!