React Server Components Change Everything
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React server components, also known as RSC, are the biggest game changer for React since hooks and may even surpass hooks in my opinion. Server components completely alter how you write React code and in this video I will talk about all the difference between client and server components, what the pros and cons are, as well as when to use each one.
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⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:45 - Basic Differences
03:23 - Server Component Benefit #1
05:22 - Server Component Benefit #2
06:32 - Server Component Benefit #3
07:58 - Server Component Benefit #4
08:25 - Server Component Benefit #5
08:58 - Server Component Downside #1
10:25 - Server Component Downside #2
10:45 - How To Nest Server And Client Components
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So now we doing JS the PHP's way that i learned 10 years ago ? Great, it wasn't a waste of time after all ! =D
Yes!!! Actually RSC are based on XHP a Facebook PHP framework that they invented many years ago (2010). RSC are just the representation of that framework but in React and JS, so you could use a single language and mental model (React and components) in your app. So yes, it's the PHP way.
The older I get the more I notice that 95% of the cool new stuff, that everyone looses their minds about how innovative it is, is just reinventing the wheel from 30-40-50 years ago.
@@varan22 not really. it's more like, taking the old tried-and-true wheel and attaching it to a new, faster engine. PHP could always handle your serverside code but now we can do that, with one language, better client interactivity, and type safety.
Reminds me of server-side JavaScript from 20 years ago. Eventually Apache Rhino...
@@PraiseYeezus I see that. But how much really of that user really cares about? Yes DX can lead to better UX but not necessary.
The old ways have become "new" again.
Then we'll be hooked on this for a while, realize all the problems with the approach, move back to the client for everything, and the cycle will continue.
Yeah we got full-circle and getting ready for the next 😂
The page router approach was a close to perfection, in my opinion. There was a clear separation of what is server side code, and what is client side. I have spent the time learning the ins and outs of the app router, and I just don't see the benefits other than a little less code scaffolding. Personally I feel NextJS made the wrong decision with this, but I am willing to give it time.
Thanks, the video i’ve been looking for 🙏🏻
Thank you, great short and easy to follow video
front end guys rly do run in circles.
Only Vercel asked for this so they could seem "innovative". Pretty sure everyone I knew loved the page router in NextJS, and didn't need this. We just wanted a faster dev environment, not a complete rethink of how to do NextJS
If stevie jobbos didn't kill flash (along with adobe), maybe things would have been different - the world of FE took a huge step back with the launch of the iphone.
@@coherentpanda7115 im thinking this could also be a vercel 400 IQ move to encourage us to do more stuff on the server, so they can charge us more🤣
One of the aspects I find most interesting is composability. In traditional Server-Side Rendering (SSR) apps, you must fetch all data from the server at the route level. However, with React Server Components (RSC), you can fetch data at the component level. Additionally, the ability to mutate data and then perform revalidation ensures your RSCs are always up to date.
Really easy to understand, thank you so much
Good old PHP way is reigning again 😊
Hehe
But with modern techniques and type safety
PHP doesn’t run on both client and server.
@@jjfattz yes, it only produces what will be executed on the client, not the same, but similar
Your videos are always entertaining,to the point and useful. Thanks
Great explanation! Thanks!
Thanks for clearing all doubts
Just Amazing! Thanks !!
Your tutorials are always great and useful. Thanks a lot
SO much clicked after watching this video. Half a dozen concepts now make sense. Thank you.
I'm glad to have found this explanation here.
Weeks ago I've came across Remix, correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understood, it allows to write a single codebase, that it's "compiled" later into two separated backend and frontend modules (or client/server modules as we prefer).
That seems really interesting, as I'm going to completely rewrite a legacy project, and being the only person working on it, being able to avoid BE/FE separation and define every data structure once, will really make things easier to code, and also maintain.
What I'm seeing here seems very similar to Remix, but I've never worked with it, or Next.js to understand the differences.
I'd like to know if other people here, moved to this approach from a classic decoupled client/server configuration, and how it is going after the switch. Thanks
Great video as always …State management in next js and how to use data between clients and server using zustand and or any other way ? Can we please have a video on that
+1 totally agree
Thank you for the video, indeed it's really react idiomatic to me on most stuff you presented !
Awesome video. ReactJs 18 has changed and our projects has been through several upgrades
No, I'm sorry this stuff is better off as a separate npm package that people can add to their project if they want and react/nextjs people should stop herding people to use NextJS on the official React docs.
Let the front-end be the front-end, server be the damn server, and NextJS be whatever it's supposed to be.
And regarding google's recent changes for SEO I doubt the SEO benefit is gonna be there in the future. So 2 medium benefits for a big constant headache. And don't get me started on the decision to implement features that are in Canary stage, meaning not final, in NextJS. No thank you.
LOL, i'm with you
Fr 😐 i hate server components
That is a great iteration of the technology! Combination of server and client capabilities may simplify implementing some things. 👍
Then when you have a different client for example a mobile app written in Swift, you can't reuse your server logic.
@@xavier.whisper.underneath i am not familiar with Swift. Can you reuse regular client react components while creating a Swift mobile app?
Sorry, I don't understood. Does this only work with Next.js or with pure React as well?
Millions of thanks from NextJs newbie.
If you are not using next js. react-query is a good option for data fetching and state management.
You can still use it with next
@@adammellor5857Theo made a video about this topic. Worth watching
With tRPC too
Great video, what about the subscriptions? how to use them
I'm just going back to PHP tbh
Go then
laravel is really good
Great video! How do you feel about React server components vs Qwik's resumable components?
Guizeeeeira! Sucesso!!!!
As a beginner in React, I should say this is getting out of hand, NextJs everytime docs changes is a whole new-scenario, not to mention the bug comes with it, then now React is updating with these new features and to be honest, a newbie like myself would like to learn basis and be able to understand all the based knowledge correctly first, not some mixing stuff like this.
Plain React is still almost the same, just don't run after these meta frameworks as they're useful but definitely not for beginners.
If you're a newbie, focus on building small projects with vanilla javascript
Five years ago, I chatted with Dan about async component. He said won’t do it and it is not react way. Now they understand what I was talking about async component.
The reason React exists is because some folks did not want to do certain javascript way.
Love this, I will look for a playlist on your YT-channel when it comes to React 19, if you don´t have one, please create one! You are doing a great job.
I feel like it is more normal that front-end developer that learns JS -> JSX today will also learn NODE. With that we often learn similar folder structures. I can´t find any good video that explain how you should think when going from JSX and node to react 19. This was the one big thing that made me stop learning next.js. It was really hard finding good educational videos of project/folder structures.
Example.
My general folderstructure
/src (folder)
-- Folder structure inside a component folder (like, say SignUpForm)
-/Components (folder)
--/Component Name (folder)
---/Utils_ComponentName (folder) -> Hooks, JS functions and more that are specific to the component
---/Config_ComponentName (folder)
---/Styles_ComponentName (folder)
---/Tests_ComponentName (folder)
---/Assets_ComponentName (folder) here I load (images, icons, data and more folders)
---/Types_ComponentsName(folder)
I have similar folder structure in the folder Components. Like if SignUpForm has a utility function in Utils folder, that can be used by other component. I will move that file to Utils in the Components directory(folder) instead of keeping it in the utills folder in the SignUpForm directory.
The directory with API from client to server will be in the same level as src folder. And I will have a folder structure for every API and often the same folder structure as mention above.
This structure is pretty new to me and I have come up with it by my self and reading about different structures and created one of my own. The folders isn´t new, but how I set it up.
A lot of text but A video I would like to see, because I like how you teach. Is to see a "fully" developed full stack application, with types, config files, test in a JSX, node application. And turn that in to a react 19 application. That would be gold :P
How do you handle loading state and errors?
Could you maybe create a video on how to integrate authentication with a server side app? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how to share user context data between client side code, server side code, and an api. Also looking forward to learn how to apply translations server side - this seems like a great candidate for server side rendering
Try searching JWT or Session Cookie auth tutorials. If you want something a little more robust, the Next-Auth Library is pretty easy and plenty of tutorials too. But look for Server Component tutorials as it's still a very new paradigm
use cors library and the fetch data thing and you ready to go
Next-auth has a few quirks but has been working well for me. It has hooks for client components, and functions to call for server components.
I just made every private route use client components, because I need to have access to auth cookie. I don't any way around this.
@@paw565 you can access the auth cookie in the server.
server side component in next js is confused sometime when mix with client side functions, we use next js page api, looks like it solves the confusion bit of nicely
I love how stable React's API is...
Can you make a video about caching in Next.js and how to disable them? The caching is too aggressive and hard to understand.
fetch(`...`, { cache: 'no-store' })
// Revalidate at most every hour
fetch('...', { next: { revalidate: 3600 } })
A guy can't read documentation and waiting for a video from a youtube blogger -_-
@@stewart6395 the documentation is a pos, I also tried follow it and end up improvising. It works, but it's slow af, despite me following a similar pattern as kyle.
I ended up using a client component with useEffect, as it was the most performant way for some reason
Wow u are a wizard!
We want Role Based Authentication in Next14 with Next-Auth, also clear the concept of middleware.
I would love to see other competitors of nextjs and remixjs in seever components.
ever heard django, laravel or ruby on rails?
@@mon_codes yeah but to use react on the server side, I guess only these two players are there.
@@mon_codes Your forgot the Crystal's Lucky framework
Do you have a video that breaks down the pros and cons of client vs server apps? Because currently I'm seeing a lot more pros for server apps these days. When did the trend start shifting away from client side?
For me it's obvious, Server Side Rendering is for "classic" pages (blog, news, "static" pages...) while Client Side Rendering is for rich an complex UI that require realtime interactions for better UX (chat, mails, maps, drawing, even youtube is working like a Single Page Application while it could be a MPA...)
@@karlstein9572
Your comment simplifies things.
Thanks
The concept of Server Components is cool, however if I must encapsulate AJAX Logic inside the body of a component I prefer to use a Client Component. The more I grow in Front End development, the more I understand how great it is to decouple the connect to the API from the actual UI.
How would you perform CRUD functions in NextJS?
Thanks!
You're welcome!
thanks
Did you guys try it? Is it me or it's really slow, and your website ends up showing skeletons for seconds? Am I doing something wrong?
Do you find your vercel snappy? I don't honestly, hopeful to get some replies
Thanks! One Question: if RSC runs only on the server, React is not ideal for PWA/offline apps, right?
i used to do this in ejs way back
Can we use graphql api in server components somehow?
Should/could I pair these with Next.js? If so, how?
Good video as usual, but about performance of server components - is it really obvious? I mean if you do some data fetching on your server, while full page paint most likely will happen faster, first paint will actually be (possibly) noticeably slower, because you have to send (possibly) much bigger HTML and it will happen later when compared to client component, because before you send anything back to client you have to complete data fetching. On client component in that time you can show a logo of company and some kind of loader, which might be a good UX. So while in cases where SEO is important probably server components are no brainer, in other cases IMHO this is not so obvious or black/white. What do you think?
I have been building out a project using React server components for the last couple of months. The one thing I'm really enjoying about it is when I pull large amounts of data on the server side, the performance is insanely fast. Also, the caching for next.js fetch API is pretty decent. I have to do some cache busting, but otherwise it's pretty good.
In next js there is something called partial prerendering. In short you can wrap your server component that fetches data first with Suspense and give it a fallback. It will show the fallback until the data is ready
@@rezamuhammad4974 I do this. Honestly, I wasn't one for frameworks, but Next's handling of this has made it a breeze to manage.
Who don't you test your theory and share to us the result
Trust the servers provider lobby bro. Vercel has your best interests at heart for sure. Run everything server side and you'll be happy. Don't try out any client side modern frameworks. Trust me bro, server components are blazingly fast.
Is it possible to buy the Nextjs course only?
ReactServerComponents - a feature that exists exclusively in the React-Vercel world.
Well, you've been able to do this with PHP since forever. React is copying the pattern.
not for long, it's part of the longer term vision for react as it moves towards using a compiler.
Nope. You can definitely self host it.
@@omaribbrahim nope
I have a question.. When I started learning nextjs I've had a lot of issues with figuring out how to pass state related information from a client to a server component. For example based on some Client state (like tenant id), I want to conditionally fetch some information from the server for that tenant. Putting the server component first didn't seem to make sense since the user hadn't selected a tenant yet, and putting it inside a client component didn't seem to work because I couldn't pass the users selection to the children (or I don't know how to if its possible).. How would you accomplish this in Nextjs? Using routes somehow?
There is always a client state exist, and it is not possible to keep it on the server side, period. What this guys do - they prepare some of the client initial state before the whole component is loaded, this is legit, but no more.
Perhaps Next.js server actions would help. He goes over them in another video at czcams.com/video/NgayZAuTgwM/video.html
i have one question though. consider a situation. i have 80 api calls inside my next js app. if i make all of them in the server component, it will be SSR. is this going to put a lot of pressure on my server? for example, if i am going to call them in a dashboard that SEO is not a concern, which one is better, make all of them Server side rendering or use react query with axios on the client?
Are all of your calls currently SSR, or are some client side? You can still do client side fetching by turning SSR to false in your imports, but with Suspense and lazy loading, you can relieve pressure to have the most important calls happen first, load partial data and some skeletons, and then bring in the rest of the reponses.
NUXT also handles server side very well
I watch a lot of next js vid, then this guy just bump the logic in my head like an alphabet
How do we put on click event on each todo in a server component then?
Same question!
Handle your data higher up in the page component and make the todo component a client component. Or you can still fetch the data inside the todo component with a useEffect. Either way, you'll have to turn the todo component into a client component.
I am curious about state management now
This is my first nextjs app dir and I would like to know what is diff between server component vs use hook from react . What is the difference ? What should I choose ?
if you listen to the video closely, you will learn the difference. but my advice: do full next.js course before starting on next.js project. there are plenty of good ones.
@@timkoprivnik9875 Thanks now I understand that SSR can only fetch in parents and pass data to child component and RSC can fetch directly in its component itself.
will it replace rtk queries ?
how to use redux in NextJs ? I want to clear my doubts can you make video on it ? client/server/redux how it works for big project?
What you said about server components vs client components and SEO is not strictly true. Client components can still be prerendered and hydrated, which is what happens in Next
Are we again at the start? Didnt we start there with PHP, Spring-WebMvc?
What’s the advantage over what Nextjs was already doing? Just standardized ssr?
Just s little less code. Theoretically some speed improvements, but nothing that has been proven.
In case you need to use multiple server components in a client but not in the same order do not use child but pass it as props. Also, do not try to use javascript features from like bootstrap, they will not work on server components (but react-bootstrap lib will, so interactivity is definetly there in a way). Anyway, I love this idea of mixing client and server components. Makes me think more on how to increase granularity.
Can someone explain how server components are preferable to nextjs's old way ot doing SSR? At least there you got client-side hydration
It's tricky, but you can think of the 'traditional 'SSR' as everything will be client side rendered, the only difference is the server rendered the initial HTML, and sent that in the response. Then the CSR takes over and hydrates the component.
The key thing to note here being that all the logic in the component would run server side first (to generate the HTML) and then on the client side (to hyrdate).
The paradigm shift here with RSC, is you're writing a component that will run only on the server, and never on the client. The server will send the HTML and only that. So, you could sort of think of RSC as a fancy HTML templating solution, in which you can embed interactive client side React components.
@@oliverhughes169 so, basically, it's a worse version of SSR, because SSR can do what RSC can do plus more?
@@alastairzotos Well sort of, depends on what you need. If you are just rendering some HTML that doesn't require any user interactivity, you could have your logic on the RSC and send the HTML. You don't need to ship the JS to re-render the HTML on the client. That's the key difference.
Basically any React hook we learn soon becomes redundant
Please make a video to how use server components without nextjs if its is possible to you
Yeah but how we can use it on server? No build nedded?
RSC looks way more complicated because of how nextjs has handled this. There are many footguns that must be explained too. For example, it's easier to leak secrets using server actions
do you have some examples ?
@@captainnoyaux the official next docs on server actions contains the vulnerability and also what they do for fixing it
You'd specifically have to add the NEXT_PUBLIC_ prefix to your secrets or add it to your NextJS config to expose them, which has been the case since v9. Server actions didn't change that in any way
No error management on the right?
I had a taste of angular.. couldn't achieve my goals with it... then moved to react to try my luck: ended up at the same dead end... so VanillaJS all the time.. 💪
react and other frameworks are good (just like type script) for big tech companies.. where the people are coming and going, so these frameworks can provide a standardise way to have each 'engineer' replaceable overnight..
How to implement only SSG using react vite?
Instead of this we should use react query
it does all this things beautifully and it also provides us data for loading error
we should just make use of react-query on top of fetch in our react application
What we need is Tanstack to release their own framework with a pages router, and make React Query the standard fetch method. NextJS tries to be neutral on auth, fetch and other features that typically require a library.
So.... It's just next js then?
which font is that ?
The problem is that I use Render to host my server and I use the free service. When there is no request for a long time my server gets a spin down and it is very slow to restart...
So i can't use this for now but i'd like to!
Will this considerably increase the cloud costs?
I really love next js , ho w routes work how eaasy to write code , but maaaan why doesn't support websocket
No interaction isn't the only downside of the approach, it's the deal breaker. I don't remember last time a had to just display some data
Exactly ! That's why I don't get the hype. For 90% of personal or work projects I need reactivity almost everywhere. When I use SSR(with few client components, like we could already do in php a long time ago), that's for landing pages, blogs or things like this which have a lot a static data.
We exist: developers who use pure react and haven't been pushed by peer pressure to learn nextjs. by the time you'll be done with nextjs another framework called 'lastjs' will emerge. i advice stick with one framework as long as it is working for you. switching between between frameworks has zero benefits
I tried this abomination nextjs, and i returned to pure react, next is half baked and already has two non compatible versions, everything is buggy and all simple things became super hard, also this use client/use server stuff is so bad, half of things not working here, other half there, such a nonsense
I’m sure lastjs will have heavy inspiration from nextjs. I don’t think it’ll be a waste of time
@@buc991sounds like a skill issue
real purists use HTML and Javascript
@@alexstrasza4938 nah! thats just lazy
I always use async await.
BRO, why are you using promising chaining with async await?!?! come on, man
am i the only one confused about the video title? this is just a next tutorial i guess, or am i missing something he sais abou how to do it in react?
Is React server components production ready ? i mean ready in react library not in next js
It is considered stable in React. The canary version is technically stable, but they've never done an official version bump to make it official. I think they are waiting for React 19 because there may be new tweaks along with a load of new client-side changes.
How could this be a React feature if React apps used to be compiled into JS files and served by separate webservers like Apache or NginX?
superbbbbbbbb
I have a question.
Say I am fetching data in a server component.
Then server component gets the data,makes the html and sends that data to the client.
Although servers are very fast it surely will take some time to get that data.
So ultimately user will have to wait for sometime for the server rendered html to arrive.
Now what if i want to show some loading spinner to the user while the server component is being rendered.????
How can i do that if i cant access useeffect in a server component,?
Anyone?some help?😊
In nextjs you can create a loading.tsx file which will be rendered until the server component arrives. You can also wrap the server component between React.Suspense and provide a custom loader as fallback.
@@internetexplorer7880 But then you'd lose the SEO benefits since your server can only send a response once, so if you use a loading.tsx it will show the loading but that means your first HTML is already there which is just the loading state.
@@hamza_dev so whats the solution 🤔
@@internetexplorer7880 And without nextjs and SSR you can do the same with the same result, but without overloading the server with pre-rendering.
@@hamza_devyou don't lose SEO, you're just sending different data (html in this case) in the same response. That's what called Streaming.
sir or someone, is that next js app router can't deploy with node js on my hosting use apache cpanel? i try to deploy but error, i only can deploy next js page router only, please help 🙏🏻
Ask in stackoverflow, and make your question more specific
looks like I took up React at about the right time
So it's just SSR? like what PHP has been doing for the last 25 years?
Hei you please keep everything related to react in one playlist. It's bit difficult to find out react related stuff.
Why would I want "cached data that's available to every single user"? Sure, in simple websites, okay because everyone sees the same data. But web services, each user can only see their own data, not the data of other users. So I don't really understand the "benefit" there.
Coming from sveltekit and nuxt and not being able to in nextjs to put a button with on click on a server page was infuriating. It should be able to defer these illegal things until the page has loaded or be able to mark the button for only rendering after server portion has loaded without giving you an error. Basically any dynamic component using these properties force you to make everything use client, it’s unfortunate.
HTMX let's gooo!
really simple with any[], yes thats simple
Does this only work with NEXT.JS? What about .NET?
No, It does not work with .NET because Server Components are written in JS.
Try the remix way.
Should we continue with react or learn next js ?
Left side is fine, no pain there.
I don't buy the idea of combining the backend fetch response directly with component display on the client. It seems like a code smell and a performance hit in the long run. The only purpose I can think of is to use RSC to implement standard feature customizations. This often happens in large-scale projects where we want to separate the build process for standard and custom components.