Why float the bridge?
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2019
- In this video, I'll discuss why I float my tremolo bridge.
Sorry for the wrong shutter speed while filming the dialogue.
Fender Made in Japan Traditional '50s Stratocaster AWT
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Recorded with the
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Original melody composition by © Jonathan Koh
Backing track from:
JTC - Hudba
![The Perfect Stratocaster Trem / Vibrato Setup [Floating, Flat Or Blocked?]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PjVXWyUGpwc/mqdefault.jpg)
I can listen all day to you play. I think you are the guy who plays all those light FM songs. Really enjoy your style!
Lol.. as long as it’s not elevator music 🤣
@@JonIsJustTooLoud One day we will play together!
robert carra yes one day!! ✌️🤓
I had a little chuckle when you told of your tremolo bar story, it reminded me of my days travelling around India, upon arriving in what was then(1995) Bombay our hotel room had a toilet with a kickstart flush and the seat was Batman logo shaped.
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Lol!!!
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Great video - I was considering locking down my Strat's floating bridge - I believe your video stopped me from making a decision I may regret - Thank you! Superb playing by the way
Thank you ✌️❤️
Jonathan, I hard tailed mine, removed the trem bar and locked it up. It's the only way to deal with temptation. If there's any bending to be done it's down to the fingers...
Hahaha.. you can always use both techniques!!✌️🤓
Really loved this video, Thank you!
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There's a difference in the timbre from a floated to a decked bridge. I prefer the floated for this reason. There should be no tuning issues if the guitar is set up right.
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The beginning sounds like a little Sanford Townsend Band mixed with some Little River Band. Nice!...
Thank you
I have the same GraphTech string tree you do (but black), Strings slide nicely. I do take a small round file and round the edges slightly. And yes, it helps to keep all string pivot points slightly lubed. I think the main con of floating the bridge is tuning the guitar because as you tune each string you need to go back and re-tune the previous ones. Or if you are a hard player and break a string the rest of them go out of tune. Only a big problem if it's your only guitar and you are playing a gig. Just don't break em'. I like floating my bridge cause you can achieve a true vibrato. Finger vibrato you can only go sharp, and flat trem you can only go flat, Floating trem you achieve both, hence a true vibrato. It's a technique which Gilmour and Beck are masters of... Thank for the video..
Glad you like it!✌️❤️
Instructive video, I like it!
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Hi Jonathan you are awesome Brother 🎸❤😊👍👍
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Thank you,your the master
You're welcome!
Early on I used to float my bridge....and then I started playing with other people, lol. Too difficult to stay in tune. I do love it though, especially for just that bit of vibrato at the end of chords.
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I have gragh tek trees and nut, and traditional bent metal bridges. For me, the bridge locking up on the G and and general binding at that rough contact point, right behind the saddles. Got oil em and file that little contact point.
Thanks for sharing.. yes I’ve heard guys breaking string on the saddles.. filing them and lubing them helps
I love the backing track! Could you provide a download if you wouldn’t want to I’d understand. Keep up the great content and cheers from LA!
Hiya James! The track's name is Parallex from Jam Track Central 🤓
I have had a Squier JV Strat since 1983 that has always been set with a floating vibrato.
I built a mahogany bodied HSS partscaster a couple of years ago. I did "deck" that ie only detune not raise pitch. I did this as it is argued it improves sustain and tone. But I really didn't like the feeling and operation of the vibrato so recently I've reset it to a floating version. Much more to my liking and in use I didn't hear any discernable degradation of tone / sustain.
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Yes this is what the Strat was meant for ! It even sounds better with floating trem. Why people buy Strats and then block the exact thing that makes them amazing beats me.
Couldn’t agree with you more!! But it takes all kinds... to each his own✌️❤️
I don’t know if you’ve heard of Vega-Trems. New on the market. Amazing standard style trem that fits in Strats and you can pull up and down with no restrictions. It would be cool to see you review/perform with one.
The VegaTrem is a killer upgrade for Fender's vintage 6 and 2-screw trem - without permanently modding your guitar!
It's a really expressive floating system that holds tune! + without the hazzle of a Floyd Rose - Beware there is a downside - once you've tried it you'll want it on all your Strat style guitars :)
All the best to you Jonathan - and thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and insight in so many ways.
Yeah I heard about it..sadly..no one here carries them..I will probably try to order one soon ✌🤓
@@JonIsJustTooLoud fellow SGean here. i bought one direct. its really expensive but it seems to work great. im not a heavy trem user though but so far theres nothing i can legit complain about. maybe setting intonation is slightly more troublesome. hit me up if u want to have a look
chocolatepinkspider thank you brother for the offer.. it’s alright✌️🤓
Jonathan Koh no problem! Keep up the good work
Hello, sir! do you like floyd rose brides? maybe you can make a comparations between flod rose and other tremolo bridges. Very nice video! Have a nice day!
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If you are locking your trem or blocking it with a scrap piece of wood, you a losing out on a lot of the playing aspects of the design. Trial and error and experience can get most bridges perfect. Practice adjusting bridges. The spring screws will need to be adjusted for the perfect tension to keep it in tune and return it to the balance position. The six screw version needs those screws slightly loose to prevent binding. Two point trems are often better performing as we know.
Great sharing! 🤓✌ havent seen you around brother...how have you been?
So about 5 years ago, there was a guy, probably on CZcams, that had a way to set them up so that they stay in tune. There were a few tricks for setting it up, it took like an hour or more, and the main thing was that you had to basically push the bar all the way down after using it to "reset it". If anyone knows of this, please share a link.😀
Was it this guy? czcams.com/video/Iy-F7iSIopA/video.html
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Rhetshull?? I just watched one like that. But he wasn't pushing it all the way down for it to reset. 😂
I listen to metal music more specifically Thrash but I really like the way he plays. He plays very well 🎸
Jonathan, I really liked the song at the beginning of the video, I could listen it all day. It is a song of yours? Is there a way to look for it? Thank you in advance!
Thank you.. no it’s not available ✌️❤️
@@JonIsJustTooLoud That's sad. Thanks for answering :)
What is the wireless you're using, I just sent my strat to my guitar guy today for a tune-up and new electronics, I'll have to talk to him about this floating trem. Thanks, Jonathan
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Hi there I’m confused about one thing for a long time now, can you help. A non-floating bridge goes only one way in terms of pitch (say up) and a floating bridge goes both ways in terms of pitch (up and down). Is that correct. Thanks in advance.
Yes, exactly
@@JonIsJustTooLoud Ah ok thanks!
I had set up one my strats to floating as Fender specs suggestet, unplayable, think 1 to 1.5 mm gap between body and vibrato is maximum and try out not winding the strings which are not affected by a roller tee or so to wins them upwards not downwards at the tuners
I might add, this one of mine got staggered tuners and a TUSQ nut, i played parts of song i add vid for 1 week and it was still in tune at least to my ears and my ears are no good, when i tune the guitar with a tuning fork in 440hz A by ear i allways land a half step down, like Jimi and Eddie :o) czcams.com/video/O7QFbI1c_0U/video.html
I always wondered how the EVH style d tuna stayed in tune ??? It’s decked !!! So not so floating
Really???🤪
Jonathan Koh yup just downs no ups 😂
Hello Jonathan. Plz spare me two mins. I recently bought my first electric guitar- a fender player strat. It has a floating bridge. Whenever I lift the bridge up using the whammy and release it, it doesn't get back to the original pitch somehow. I have to further push the bridge back towards the body of the guitar to get back to the original pitch. However the guitar stays in tune. And also it feels too tight using the whammy to lift up and down the bridge. Plz help out with this problem. Plz
Ok...the problem is not with the bridge or trem at all. Its your nut. You need to widen the spaces just a bit. Use a fine sandpaper to sand a bit off the sides of the strings that goes out of tune often (eg B/G/D) dont sand downwards as that will affect your action. Do it slowly by increments. Alternative you can try to apply lube or pencil lead. Or ..if you dont want to chance it, send it to a good luthier! Hope this helps!✌🤓
@@JonIsJustTooLoud Thanks Jonathan!!! You mean to say that after lifting the bridge up and releasing it doesn't get back exactly to its original position due to more friction on the strings by the nut? Is this problem of mine somehow related to the springs?
@@dipjyoti_guitar yes I believe so
Nothing to do with the springs at all
@@JonIsJustTooLoud thank you so much for the help!!!
Do you prefer floating over decking? Why?
Floating!!✌️❤️
Question: does a floating tremolo always result in very high action?
No.. or should not✌️❤️
@@JonIsJustTooLoud Ok I felt disappointed after floating mi tremolo because of de action but I'll try to adjust it better. Thanks!
Understandable... it’s a challenge to play with a floating bridge. That’s why a lot of players don’t bother to float the trem. It take some patience to get out just right.✌️❤️
@@JonIsJustTooLoud Thanks for your answers, did you try the vegatrem in the end?
Yes!! I’m waiting to install my 3rd vegatrem this few days✌️❤️
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I got my first Strat about 40 years ago. What irritates me most about having the tremolo is tuning the dam guitar. May be there is special technique you can share with us? So basically the only way I could tune it properly was to start with the six string then 5th then back to the six, because it would slightly throw it out, then continue this method until you get to the first string. It took so long to get right. So I gave up doing that and hard tailed it and have done so ever since. I bought a PRS SE Custom 24 recently and the springs are more taught than my Strat, which is slightly easier to tune, I’ve not even bothered attaching the tremolo arm on it yet...lol. So master Jonathan tremolo man, what have I been doing wrong all these years, I want to have more fun as you put it....
Denis Ahmet lol.. I know exactly what you mean... you just need patience. Sure maybe one day I’ll do a video and show how I go about tuning my floated bridge guitar after changing new strings ✌️🤓
Jonathan Koh please do a video when you next change strings on one of your Strats. Thanks
@@DenisAhmet There are a lot of how-to videos on CZcams about floating the trem on a Strat. One of the guys who goes through it step by step is Dave on Dave's World of Fun Stuff. He has a hoard of videos on setting up Strats and almost all of them include setting up a floating trem. A Tusq nut is very helpful and literally maintenance free, as are roller string trees, as Jonathan stated. Both are pocket change items.
Just checking in to see how Cody is doing ;)
drummer4hire12 Jam Track Central is where Jonathan got this one, he normally puts a link in the description. I went on Bandcamp.com yesterday and found some great ones there, you can stream them too to get the whole track, buying is optional.
drummer4hire12 thank you brother.. we are still waiting on the result ❤️
@@JonIsJustTooLoud Ok. I realised that you have a Cody and I have a Kobi....lol
OMG, I thouight it was "Bill Wyman" from the rolling stones
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@@JonIsJustTooLoud , Nice one mate, (I was just having a laugh) Welcome to Auckland New Zealand,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Regards Gib
you still planning on doing some lessons?
I guess...as we go along..✌🤓
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Lol. Don't sound so enthused
Straight Shooter hahaha no no I’m game
Allways trust in the Italians :) czcams.com/video/OUkKZy8U_gA/video.html
Haha he got same Shell Pink as me :)
btw never use a magnetic srewdriver near pickups