How to install an oil pan... without leaks, the first time.
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2013
- Watch as I install my oil pan and share some tips and tricks that I learned for a successful (non leaking) repair.
I found a lot of useful info here:
www.saturnfans.com/forums/show...
This engine is for my 1995 Saturn SW2, I am using a block from a 1997 SL2 and a professionally rebuilt head. All of this was due to poor compression.
Long story short...
My 95 SW2 engine went south, bought a rusted out 97 SL2 for the engine. That engine had no compression on cylinder 3. Yanked both engines out, found burnt valves on the 97. Of course all of this snowballed and I decided to go with a professionally rebuilt head and to do rings, bearings, seals, etc.
Having passed the point of no return I found unibody frame rot and the beginnings of subframe rust so I had to tackle those too. - Jak na to + styl
I liked:
1) The gun stuffed in the engine
2) the conniption fit when the kid says "dad"
3) the chevy orange or red repaint of the oil pan
Thanks!
As an engineer working with engines this is pretty much accurate. One suggestion I might add is, when you put the pan on a flat surface to check flatness, you can also try to insert a cardboard between the pan and surface all around to find out wavy spots
9 years on and this video was one of the better ones that I have seen on re-sealing the oil pan. Thank you very much for the info and taking the time to make this video.
I don't care how overly careful you were. This helped a lot, as I'll be changing my oil pan on my WRX later this week. Great tips to ensure no leaks!
dude when you pulled that gun out of your engine I totally lost it!
I thought, You gotta live in Texas. Great video, wish my engine was in the garage like that.
Very well presented. That's from someone who has been a ASE certified mechanic for many years. You would make a good instructor. You described this job to a "T". Thanks for sharing.
Dude started his video off without screeching, "Hey Guys!".....BRAVO ! Informative and thorough video with a clear and understandable speaking voice and decent filming!
I will be in the process of resealing my oil pan, after I confirm that the leak is in fact coming from there, so finding this video was a real treat. Thank you for making such a high quality guide and being thorough about each step - it's the details that count!
A huge THANKS. Before I put the new oil pan on a 429, I watched your video.
Cutting the slots into some bolts worked WONDERS cleaning out the bolt holes, I had never seen that done. So many times have I needed to clean out some threads, now I know how.
Then I cut the heads off and used them as studs to line up the pan, worked GREAT!
If it wasnt for you taking the time to show that level of detail, you would have heard me cursing from there!
Thanks again.
I am 59 years old and just bought my 1st torque wrench. I am doing a motor rebuild for the very 1st time and watching all of the CZcams videos that I can find. I like your video you made a lot of sense and using a torque wrench to me it now makes a lot of sense to use one so thank you very much for your video.
Many people still have oil leakage after silicone work in oil and fluid pans. Someone told me to apply a thin layer of silicon... I wasn't sure after watching so many CZcams videos, but I came here and became confident in DIY work. Your video is a messenger of love. Thank you very much.
Probably the best guide to applying RTV on CZcams. Every trick he did, I recommend, ESPECIALLY using "headless" bolt threads to guide the pan on. This is critical if installing from the undercarriage; you'll never line it up perfectly without guide bolts.
Tim W Thank you sir!
Felpro usually includes plastic studs with their gaskets and the pan will "snap" in place over the studs, so not only do they line it up, but they will hold the pan up until you get your bolts and wrench in hand.
Wish I knew that before buying! ty
It's kind of sarcastically funny but most French cars. Namely, my Peugeot's and Citroen's have a very simple solution. The oil sump is fixed with bolts all around, just like any other, nothing new here. EXCEPT for two studs, standing on opposite sides of the sump. That obviously use a couple of nuts. Simple and basic. No need to "invent" with headless bolts, plastic studs, etc. They're just there. ;-)
Yes but wood dowels can work.
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I've used the black permatex. It is specifically for engine oils.
The instructions on the tube to say to let it "skin over". This would be things like valve covers and timing belt covers. And I did let the skin over on my time cover on my 99 Solara.
However, I agree with you that since you don't want to be pulling your oil pan off probably ever again, I would get the mating surfaces together before it skins over.
TIP-
I use lint-free raggs from Advanced Auto Parts to ensure that no lint is left on the mating surfaces of where I'm going to be applying a form-in-place-gasket.
FUN FACT-
Toyota FIPG 103 is used on oil pans, semi-circular plugs in the head cylinder head (if applicable like it is on my 1MZFE), and certain crevices on one side of each cylinder head that form an acute angle that the regular rubber gasket may not be able to reach (again, 1MZFE workshop manual).
Very detailed and well explained. Thank you. You have a Bob Ross type of calm to your voice and the humorous spots on your video were perfect. Hilarious. Not sure if I'll ever get a chance to fix my oil pan gasket with the engine out but I truly enjoyed your video.
Good video. Now let's see you do it lying on your back under your car, like most of us have to do it. LOL
right.. this is optimum conditions working in an air conditioned shop..with the engine upside down.. not struggling under an oil drenched car needing an oil pan badly. I will use the guides this time, and buy a new oil pan. .. I've done this 3 times and still have leaks
Very good presentation that was very informative and educational for me. I learned a lot about how to approach working on the oil pan and replacement. .
on your back situation. I would use the two stud guides with just enough threads to easily put two nuts on to hold pan against the block while I install the bolts
right lol
I had that problem PLUS a new allergic reaction to the Permatex which made me sick. Have a Nissan so only need Permatex or other black sealant on one side so let it cure a little before getting under car, wear gloves and maybe wear a gas mask or have a fan running to blow the stink away. Might have to also make sure all the other engine bolts are at the right torque so there is no oil leaking down the cracks. It's really tough with the oil continuing to ooze down constantly for a really long time. Almost impossible on a sealant only model car. I like the head-chopped alignment bolts--that might speed things up.
Thank you for sticking with specs because they have the greater margin for safety.
Good Job
If you read the back of your gasket maker, it will tell you to put a bead of caulking on your piece and put the pan on but not to tighten it until it forms a gasket in about an hour. Then tighten the bolts down. You learn a lot be reading the manufactures instructions. Great video all the same.
This!!
I enjoyed the subtle humor that kept my interest going. I'm reinstalling the transmission pan in the wife's car so the principles of your vid are the same. Thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to make a very professional video and sharing all the tips and tricks that you learned. Without guys like you we'd have oil everywhere!
Great, I really enjoy how thoroughly you went over possible issues and you were funny as well!
Really great video - thanks, the best in a dozen or so I looked at. Ostensibly it's a simple process but the devil is in the detail. You are the first person to mention that the sealant goes down the centre groove in the pan rim. Its not obvious but this confirms it. On the bolt cleaning, also to ensure the underside of the washer is clean (I use a brass wire wheel) as they sometimes have radial grooves in them so that when tightened they resist undoing (in addition to any Loctite you apply). Very good idea on the alignment studs too as the slide sideways slide on the pan has caused me problems in the past. So thanks again.
Thanks for taking time out your day to show this. I feel way more confident that i can do this the right way.. thanks agin and great job
You sure got this right using Acetone. I followed the same advice on my Mazda Auto pressed metal pan to alloy auto body. No skin and 2 alignment bolts - yes. I was told to finger snug tight the first seal then leave 24hrs to re-tighten. Mine still totally sealed after 2yrs and I recommend your video. Clean off the old gasket and Uber clean the mating faces is the most important part.
Oh, my freaking gosh, you not only helped me with getting a better seal for pan on my 1980 Chevy K5...but you cracked me up with not showing face through video, yet adding the couple issues you advised to be sure not have, during work...IT SO REMINDED ME OF WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS A TEEN AND WOULD DO THE SAME TO ME WHILE I WAS DOING BUSY WORK!!....too funny.........SUBSCRIBED!!!! thank you
I love your attention to detail and clear instructions. Well done!
It's being a while since this video was posted, but it really helped me how to proper apply the gasket RTV. Thanks! I'm changing the timing belt cover of a 2017 Ford Fusion.
Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed how in depth you go on your fixes. I thoroughly go through my fixes as well, because, like you, I feel attention to detail is needed.
Awesome video SIR.............such a detailed performance and really one of the best i've seen on this topic. I am at this stage tomorrow, yes upside down........already done it twice and still leaking!
I had thought it was right BUT now you have helped me and it will be perfect................Thanks so much, plus the additional amusement
dude knows how to make a good informative video.
Don't you love when you're in the middle of something then the infamous "hey dad" appears.
Using a couple of bolts with the heads cut off to locate the oil pan seriously makes the job easier and much less likely to leak. Guide bolts ensure you do not have to slide the pan around to line up the bolt holes, which smears the silicone around thinning it out instead of keeping it where it is needed to make the seal.
Great video, well presented; with no ego.
Fel Pro gaskets make what they call"snaps" which do what your dowels do. They're plastic , threaded. So you place the pan right over them and it holds the pan whilst you run in the side bolts. Then unscrew and install the bigger corner bolts. Screw the 40 piece cork get up. The big ol' squishy Felpro is a 1/4 " or more thick, one piece and NO addehsive is applied. (except for those crank ends). Great vid here and excellent speaking voice with superb enunciation.
Great tips and tricks. Always helps to work in logical and prepared method. Thanks.
Great video and very helpful on my oil pan....the best is the 2 studs you used to guide ...I would have never thought of that,,,,thanks..
awesome mechanical video. and loved the humor part of checking for accidental spare items left in the engine
I like the temporary studs idea, will be using that when I change the oil pan gasket on my 00 Civic
Thanks for the info, I like the stud idea for keeping the pan straight and which permatex to use also helps.
Great information, I am working on a Nissan sentra 2006, and your video shows me that this car have not gasket and I have to use ultra black rtv seal to make the gasket, thank you for your help...
Well done! I'll be tackling this (for the second time) this weekend. First time resulted in a leak on the transmission side of the pan where the two bolts are hard to get to when the engine is in the car. Maybe a 'lil snub nose revolver will fall out...
Terrific work done here. Keep up the good work chap. The "gun and hey daddy" scenes were very humorous.
2¼" Ruger SP101. .357 Mag? I found one of them 5-shooters in my 410FE Ford when I rebuilt it in 1994. 20 Years later, still no leaks. As you point out in your video, cleanliness is the key. I wiped with laquer thinner several times on all gasket surfaces of the engine. Used FelPro gaskets with Ultra Blue RTV on both sides.
Very cool video, your calm, clear manner is great.
I replaced head gasket on my 2001 Saturn SC1 (SOHC) because of small oil leak 2 years ago, and am about to take the whole engine apart to add the piston oil ring holes as your video shows very nicely...
A few thoughts on the oil pan:
- what about the timing chain cover? a lot of us would be taking that off as well, and the 2 seals are related, as they're the same process and interface in a "T" junction, my intuition says to use a (metal) strait edge to get the bottom face of the timing chain cover absolutely in line with the flat of the block where it mate with oil pan...
- shouldn't we make sure not to let too much RTV squeeze on the inside, for fear that some bits or hunks break off and clog up oil passages?
- I think we all could torque things by hand, but I don't think to Torque or not to Torque is really a question... hehe
- I used Permatex Ultra Black RTV, no leaks... my only question, can I use the stuff I bought 2 years ago, (or even the stuff from a few years before that? ...from sister's 99 VW Golf)
Anyway, your videos are Great!
This is a really good oil pan installation video!! Esp with all thoz lil tips... Thoz two studs to line everything up is genius!
Those couple of studs to keep straight the tray during the assembly was a great idea!.. tkx good man
When you're that deep into an engine, it's always nice to decarbonize/get rid of varnish buildup. Washing parts with mineral spirits does a really nice job I think. The varnish won't hurt things, but heavy carbon coming loose will recycle through the oil pump and maybe damage bearing surfaces it's first trip through the system. Just me, but I would avoid putting a pan back on without a litte extra cleanup.
11:28 LOL, thanks for leaving that in, That made my day! Informative video BTW, I'm doing this next week.
Great CLASS organizing everything is the key to getting from getty up to woha LOL
Thanks for taking time to educate.
Great job! Very thorough and well explained throughout.
I did just what you did to my oil pan but in the car, waited 24 hour and about to add the oil in a few min. I was told the correct way was to hand tight weight 1 hour the turq down. Im about to find out see if they both work or if hand tight and turq right after give me leaks. Praying I dont have to repeat this again. GOOD LUCK to my self!
This was great, had me cracking up and very informative at the same time!
Thank you lots of helpful tips enabling me to do it once and right.
Great job, I`m working on my 1995 saturn sc series, replaceing the subframe.
Great video! One thing about torqing things "to spec" is that the OEM specifications are for brand new fasteners that are dry and have no oil (or gunk) residue on it. "Feel" (once you have the experience) is better than a torque wrench for low torque applications. Not sure how blue loctite with a dash of RTV will affect the final torque. Although a lot more work, recommend putting pilot bolts in all holes to keep RTV from getting on the fastener threads. Thumbs up on the video! Love the subtle humor!
I'm going to have my 1971 Pontiac done ty for the information it was very useful 👍🏽
Thanks for the information ..
That temporary screws was an intelligent idea, also the type of rtv
4 times 4L60e and still leaking ..
Tip for future reference. You should have waited after you snugged the bolts down for a couple hours to let the sealer to cure for a optimum seal
Very good video. I am mechanic from England and I am doing the exact same job as your have done on my Shogun sport warrior. There is alot of different views on here on how to do this job, but i am going to take your advice. I have always had a gasket before, now using silicone this should be interesting. cheers
Very good video on how to install oil pan, I learned a few things. I'm also a torque perfectionist that uses torque wrenches.
Great presentation, very informative, easy to follow along. Great job!!! Thanks
CZcams should have a 10 star rating system so I can give this 10 stars, great job explaining everything clearly! Gun was a good surprise :D
Very informative video. About to do this on my hilux and there were some good tips and tricks in this video! Thanks!
Good video was very thorough. The only thing is when adding RTV sealant to the oil pan you have to be careful because the RTV will break down and clog up the oil screen on oil pump.
Really comprehensive and well explained. I needed someone to inspire a bit of confidense in me before i went and did this myself, so thank you for that. A quick FYI, the inline four I am doing (80's toyota) has nuts instead of two of the bolts, to help line it up. The two factory threaded rods help line up the pan - should be handy for a one-man upside-down jackstand repair like mine. Good luck to you
Yes, same as my 2000 Tacoma, 16 bolts and 2 studs needing nuts. I have it off at the moment because the engine got terribly sludged. Spent a lot of time in the valve cover area, including replacing the valve stem oil seals. Decided to remove the oil pan and do the same below, and boy was that a good decision. The oil pickup screen was fully clogged! Cleaned the sludge from the pan and am ready to do the engine hand cleaning. Had been using diesel as a solvent, but thanks to this video I think I will try mineral spirits as well. Is there a solvent that can cut the RTV, rather than a wire wheel?
Great video, love your sense of humor.
Great tips just in time as I repair the leaking intake manifold on my LT1
Love the idea of the studs for lining up the sump .👍🏻😎👍🏻
Great job! And the guide bolts are like"why the hell didn't I think of that before" damn good idea!
Thanks have a Beamer z3 and tried 2 x and need to place half quart each week. Hope your vid makes better results !
I'm a fan, well presented! THANK YOU!
Thank you. I am doing a 1958 Ford 601 tractor. It seems the normal approach is a cork gasket. The question is dry gasket? RTV one side or RTV both sides. I will be on a creeper underneath, so the alignments studs will help a lot, so thank you for that.
I liked the video. I am currently rebuilding my first motor. 3800 Series ll motor from a 1997 RS Camaro. I installed the crank and pistons and I was about to install the oil pan. I cleaned up the pan and noticed how badly warped and dented the pan was. Going to have to buy a new one. May go with OEM since I have not had much success with China made products on my Bimmer!
Camaros are low and the oil pan can get hit - especially when the shocks / struts get worn.
Good video. Easy to follow along. Step by step.
Very good video. helped me very much. tomorrow im doing it in a Ford 221 inline 6 engine
I've heard of boating accidents, but wrenching accidents is a new one to me. haha
thanks for posting. looks very helpful just picked up ultra Gray from my Land Rover transmission pan going to give it a try tomorrow let you know how it works out. again thanks for posting.
A like and a thank you to you sir. I will be doing this to my 98 Saturn SL1 today, engine in with the car up on jacks. Wish me luck lol
Best presented video I've seen, probably forever. Thankyou. I'll subscribe.
Great video, very informative, intuitive and concise!
Very thorough. It's a nice video to reference for installing an oil pan.
you did a good job.. and torque is very important...
Thanks man. Doing this on my 2002 Honda Civic Ex! :)
well done job comprehensive and clear
Great job presenting good, clear info. I almost never use a torque wrench. I'm in the process of doing a head gasket on my 1997 saturn sw2 and will be using the torque wrench for head bolts. An extra benefit of using a torque wrench is that the bolts are all applying the same amount of pressure.
tips for youtubers:> on a head, not only do they need to be torqued, but they must be torqued in a specific order. AND if your car has an engine that has "stretch bolts" then the head bolts must all be new, and NOT reused.
I got good results EXCEPT one minor error: in the corner where the timing chain cover meets the oil pan I pried the oil pan slightly + I did not use enough gasket cement so there is a very small leak. SOLUTION always use enough gasket cement so that when the pan is bolted up it squeezes out all the way around the oil pan - IF it does not - drop the pan right away and add more in those spots and reinstall. Don't be afraid that it will get inside the motor as it bonds to itself and is unlikely to break off and travel inside the motor.
Good info. I think i can proceed with my 2003 civic that's leaking crazy!
Good job, the revolver and the kids calling had me laughing!
Good Job! From a fellow mechanic and engineer.
Excellent video! It Exemplifies Making a how to video. Thank you! I'm going to do one now for the first time. Wish me luck!
Thank you for your in-depth view on sealing a sump well. I like doing the job once and will be adhering to torque specs for the recommended job. I have blue rtf and red at hand for my jobs which included intake manifold, manifold aswell as trasmission sump.
What do you know about using no hardening gasket forming sealer to prevent oil seeping through threads on bolts, is it advisable ?
You got it pretty good I'm cleaning rust out of my eyes after scraping the Gasket off the block hahaha
Nice tips!! well done for silicone in place gasket... I always use a torque wrench and go around 3 or so times before the final torque spec... as torque is generated in the "threads" and having all the threads at the same torque transfers the same static force of the pan equally around the perimeter between the block and pan which makes for a perfect job... Thumbs up!
damn. Almost left my gat in my crank case. Thanks for lookin out!
I reallly liked this video, this guy has a cool attitude
nice vid im working on putting a baffled oil pan on my 360 71 road runner
Do it right. Buy a Fel Pro gasket made for that 360.
Well done! Thanks for the tips, especially cutting slots in a bolt to use as a chase for dirt & grime in the bolt holes .... and the reminder to oil my guns. :)
This video was AWESOME!!!! A lot of it is use full info that could easily be adapted to use in resealing a trans axle in a lawn tractor so i posted it to my facebook group Maine Mud Mowers. Hope you get some more views on it and keep up the great how to videos.
Thank you very good video with some good tips, these I shall be using for my first experience with a liquid gasket. After years of leaking joints on my cars.
Regards Jeff New Zealand
Hay dad!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 right when he started to apply RTV! Loved it!🤣🤣🤣
Love it! Great video. Are you worried about any RTV squeezing out into the engine where the oil will sit like how it squeezed out?
Great vid, wonderful refresher.