@enockdzanas2420 Talent Chiwenga avoided the woman's question. It has nothing to do with spirituality. She was very clear. Its appears he is condoning adultery in his church no wonder why most of the men in JRM are abusive and promiscuous.
Excellent responses -vry biblical- to vry important questions.A debate btwn Makandiwa & Chiwenga will attract a million views Shoka rafamba apa not what pipo want to hear cz truth hurts
Talent Chiwenga did not answer this question at all. He avoided it and seems to have justified that it is okay for men to commit adultery and that is not what the Bible teaches.
Your mind is too shallow and u need spoon feeding,,, he replied according scripteres,,, he didn't and or deduct using his own words,,, majaira kunoparidzwa nyambo vachiwedzerera nekutapudza,,,, Inga varume vatsiurwa wani kuti hamusiyi zvamakatanga uye vakadzi hamusiyi zvamusina kutanga,,, wavharwa Negrammer here or waskipper zvimwe,,, or wateerera nemweya weku opposer
If a married man cheats with a virgin or another woman it's adultery, hakuna mhombwe inopinda denga , no fornicators , harlots or adulterers that will enter heaven , read 1 Corinthians 6 from verse 1
@andrewpbc The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery? Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
@@TheChekas kusaritenda vhangeri haisi mhosva yako nokuti magwaro anoti paRomans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.pa saka kana usina kuvhurwa don't bother yourself
He is right in some of his teachings but apa paati if a married man cheats with a Virgin girl, in his teachings he says automatically the man must marry that girl , this is not true at all . Read Mathew 19 from verse 3 to 9 and I want you to mark verse 6. Also read Malachi 2 verse 14 to 16 Mwari anovenga kurambana also read 1 Corinthians 7 vs 10 and 11 . All these verse from Spoken by Jesus Christ himself he put it clear that he hates devorce. READ YOUR BIBLE dear brethren do not just nodd your head to everything without biblical support
@Amoschinoz APOSTLE CHIWENGA FAILED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION CORRECTLY AND WENT OFF TOPIC. I WILL EXPLAIN IN DETAIL BELOW. Let us look at the questions the woman asked. She said, " MUKADZI AKARAMBWA NENYAYA YEHUPOMBWE HABVUMIDZWE KUROORWA, DOES THIS APPLY TO MEN AS WELL? The audience then grumbled at this until Apostle Chiwenga told them to keep quiet as the question was intended for him and not for then. He then asked her again and she asked a second question. She said, "HOW DOES THE LAW OF GOD DEAL WITH AN ADULTEROUS MAN? TINOFANIRWA (AS WOMEN) KUITA SEI? Apostle Chiwenga went on to change the question and translate it from a fleshly matter to a spiritual matter and started talking about Jesus and his bride the church. THIS WAS VERY WRONG!! BIBLE CASE STUDY: When the Pharisees came to Jesus to ask about divorce he didn't make it a spiritual matter he answered them plainly. Apostle Chiwenga is NOT Jesus but as a man of the cloth surely he should have drawn lessons from that. SCRIPTURAL BASIS: In Leviticus 20:10-12 and Deuteronomy 22:22-24 the law of Moses was very clear that a man and woman caught in adultery must BOTH be put to death. It does not say the man must be spared. Apostle Chiwenga went on to talk about biology and suggested that men cannot help themselves, that women with ADULTEROUS husbands must just accept it. THIS TOO IS A POOR APPLICATION OF SCRIPTURE. CULTURAL BACKGROUND: In the time of Jesus both men and women were afraid to commit adultery because it was punishable by death. In Matthew 19, the Pharisees brought a women caught in adultery to Jesus and wanted to stone her to death. Their objective was to test Jesus. What is surprising is that adultery is an offence committed by two people also the law of Moses is clear in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that both the man and women caught sleeping together must be killed. The Pharisees knew this law, so why did they want to punish the woman only???? MODERN SOCIETY : Today adultery is considered a sin but NOT a crime. Also people caught in adultery are not put to death. In fact if you kill someone for adultery you will be tried and convicted of murder in court and punished severely. SO THE QUESTION REMAINS WHAT DO WE DO WITH AN ADULTEROUS MAN? THE 7TH COMMANDMENT SAYS, "THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY" THIS APPLIES TO EVERYONE, NOT JUST WOMEN!!! Culturally in the time of Jesus's and in our African cultures today. A man PAID dowry/bride price/lobola for a woman. Which is why JESUS SAID that A MAN COULD DIVORCE HIS WIFE IF SHE COMMITTED ADULTERY. THE MAN WAS THE BREAD WINNER AND PROVIDER FOR THAT FAMILY AND WOMEN WERE SEEN AS PROPERTY BELONGING TO THE MAN. The challenge is that in western cultures people don't pay lobola /dowry. Also in interracial marriages there is no bride price to be paid. SO HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT? TIMES HAVE CHANGED?? AN PROMISCUOUS HUSBAND CAN BRING DISEASE HOME TO HIS WIFE IN THE FORM OF STIs AND EVEN HIV/AIDS. IS CHIWENGA SUGGESTING THAT IT'S OKAY THE WOMAN MUST JUST ACCEPT THIS, SUFFER AND DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH AND LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN AS ORPHANS??? THE LADY IS ASKING A GENUINE QUESTION BECAUSE THERE ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS WHO ARE UNREPENTANT. AGAIN THE 7TH COMMANDMENT SAYS, "THOUSANDS SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY". THIS APPLIES TO BOTH WOMEN AND MAN. THE TRUTH IS THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY WHAT MUST HAPPEN TO AN ADULTEROUS MAN BECAUSE IN THOSE TIMES IT WAS THE MAN WHO MARRIED THE WOMAN AND THEREFORE HE COULD DIVORCE HER FOR ANY REASON!! SECONDLY, ADULTERY WAS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH SO INCIDENCE OF ADULTERY WERE VERY FEW. THIS IS ALSO WHY THE JEWS PRESSED MOSES TO ALLOW THEN TO DIVORCE THEIR WIVES FOR ANY REASON. JESUS WAS CORRECTING THIS TEACHING/POSITION. THE MOTIVE OF THE JEWISH MEN WAS WRONG WHEN IT CAME TO DIVORCE. THEY WERE DIVORCING FOR SILLY REASONS. IF THEY LUSTED FOR ANOTHER WOMAN THEY WOULD SIMPLY LOOK FOR A REASON TO DIVORCE THEIR WIVES. FOR EXAMPLE WOMEN WERE BEING DIVORCED FOR BURNING THE FOOD BY ACCIDENT, SPEAKING OUT OF TURN OR ANY SILLY STUPID THING! In conclusion, TO ANSWER THIS WOMAN'S QUESTIONS, guided by scripture, the Holy Spirit and common sense. I believe that if a man commits adultery repeatedly and unrepentant a woman can divorce /separate from him. No one wants to suffer emotionally and physically. THIS IS NOT A GIFT FROM GOD!! THAT'S WHY I DISAGREE WITH Apostle Chiwenga.
@@libertychikanda7329 That's a good question. Where was the man? According to the law of Moses he should have been punished with death as well. Apostle Chiwenga seems to be saying that adultery is permissible for men and not for women. Is that Biblical?
@@yllabis I had to listen to the whole clip I think he said kwekuzopedzesera kwevideo sexual immorality is a sin to God....asi zvakadaro its not grounds for a woman to divorce her husband vati a woman cannot divorce a husband inzira dzenyika not dzekereke
@@libertychikanda7329 God hates divorce it's say so in Malachi 2 and Jesus said that to the Pharisees as well when they asked if they are allowed to divorce for any reason. I want to emphasise the word Any here, because ANY includes adultery. Cultures have evolved and you need to appreciate that but Bible truths remain. I agree that woman should not divorce her husband but I equally agree that a man should not divorce his wife even when she has committed adultery. Adultery by men has severe consequences. He can bring STIs and diseases like HIV back into his marital home. Surely this is not acceptable. I would rather suggest that a woman who has an adulterous husband be allowed to separate from him especially where he is a repeat offender. This man must receive counselling and rehabilitate himself . After which he can be reunited with his wife. During this period however long it is both parties must not get into relationships with other people but must honor their marriage. If the differences are irreconcilable or if the man refuses to be rehabilitated then there remain separate and unmarried until either one passes away leaving the other to remarry without violating God's law.
@nicolleteGariyawo The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery? Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay? Did he answer the question?
The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery? Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
@abelmneni869 He handled this question very badly and went off topic. This is very poor by talent Chiwenga unfortunately folks like you don't listen carefully.
If you explaining the same it means you were wrong and still wrong, the woman is the spirit and the woman is the flesh, and when jesus said becoz of the hardeness of your hearts moses allowed you to devorce your wives, what was he saying; if you look at the law its like the law allowed us to devorce Jesus christ who is the hasband to us ie if one commit adultory he or she must be stoned to death but jesus christ saying even if you do all sorts of evil you are still under his laws hence it gives everyone the chance of repentance.
@maimaponga6983 The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery? Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
Saka apa ati kudiiiko nemubvunzo wabvunzwa, arikuti here since Christ asingabvunzwe hupombwe zvoreva wo here kuti mutume haabvunzwe.....mubvunzo wauri wekuti law of Christ inoti kudiii pamusoro pemurume anenge apomba.....kuvakadzi mati ngaarambwe ko murume mutemo unoti kudiiii?
@markkadziyanike7783 iwe une chiedza. Mubvunzo hauna kupindurwa apa. Instead of kuti handizive, he went off topic. The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery? Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay? So women must just accept and unrepentant, adulterous man and suffer emotionally and physically?
@tatendatozivepi8074 The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery? Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay? Mubvunzo hauna kudarwa apa.
@necodimusnhekairo The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery? Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
@doceke The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery? Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
@@doceke Sorry I don't understand what you mean to say here. But u think that you and I are agreeing that Apostle Chiwenga did not answer this question very well isn't it?
The lady in green, Julia Roberts is PRETTY, she is BEAUTIFUL. She needs to look into the mirror & will find reason why men cheat. Apostle that is the short answer. What say you?
God created men and women in his own image.So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 1v27.
@@movenchawira3553 it’s a lie ? God Saïd Lets make man out of our own image then he make Adam the spirit then in Genesis 2 v 7 ndopaakaUmba Nyama iyi ndokuzofemera mweya kwazorarisa Adam murume kuti ndokutora mbabvu Ndokuziva Eva muno verenga Bible muchifungei
mmmmmmmmhhh Scripture says the only reason for divorce is Fornication not Adultery (they are two different things check English dictionary) The man of Genesis 1:27 was not the same as of genesis 2. The man made in the image of God was both male and female and a spirit man, the one made out of the ground is not in the image of God because God is not flesh but Spirit (that's scripture)
Adultery is the only reason for divorce biblically not fornicating. If you are not married but sleeping around it’s called fornicating. If you are married and you sleep with someone else other than your hubby or wife that Adultery. Yes adultery and fornicating are true different things and I just explained them.
@@TribeofLevi0404 Matthew 5:32 KJV But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. That’s Jesus in Matthew Show me the scripture which says if a woman commits adultery she can be divorced
I only gave definitions for fornicating and adultery. The difference between the two. I think we are saying the same thing but from a different angle. In other versions that scripture says “ you can only divorce your wife for sexual immorality”. The point is which I agree with if your wife sleeps with someone else which is considered sexual immorality or adultery you are free to divorce them which I agree with cos that’s what scripture says. That scripture goes on to say whoever marries that woman causes her to commit adultery because God says you can only remarry if your spouse dies. If you divorce you stay single as long as you have a living spouse but are free to remarry if your hubby or wife dies. 1corinth 7:39 A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives, but if her husband dies she’s at liberty to marry whom she wishes, only in the Lord. The only reason a wife can be divorced is kuhura ie sleeping with someone else nyaya yanetsa chete is translation between the words adultery & fornicating otherwise we are saying the same thing. I’m a single woman and if I’m sleeping around unmarried I’m fornicating, you cannot say I’m committing adultery because I’m not married I’m single. Fornicating definition: consensual sexual intercourse between a man and a esp single woman who are not married to each other. Adultery definition: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.
@@TribeofLevi0404 in short it’s true that fornication is a reason for divorce contrary to your claim the only reason is adultery, the verse specifically says except for fornication. How readest thou? Hence you are not saying the same thing.
@@TheChekas ... have ever listened to a full sermon kana maviri zvawo kwete ma clips ana Zigo I mean ma full sermons ... kana usina go and listen without any rush... uchamuona Kristu achiratidzwa pachena and the standards of God upright
Only those with spiritual understanding will be able to grasp this truth
Sermon iyi inonziyi
@@musororemember5442 noise yacho kuita kunge political campaign rally, kwete sermon
@willimaps439 The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
this man knows his scriptures very bookish and spot on
Chasara is for him to know the Word because he is only concentrating on scriptures
@enockdzanas2420 Talent Chiwenga avoided the woman's question. It has nothing to do with spirituality. She was very clear. Its appears he is condoning adultery in his church no wonder why most of the men in JRM are abusive and promiscuous.
Well done, well articulated
Mr man am not a Christian but on this one well taken
Excellent responses -vry biblical- to vry important questions.A debate btwn Makandiwa & Chiwenga will attract a million views Shoka rafamba apa not what pipo want to hear cz truth hurts
Wisdom on steroids 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I have learned something here .
Talent Chiwenga did not answer this question at all. He avoided it and seems to have justified that it is okay for men to commit adultery and that is not what the Bible teaches.
Well answered in idoms
Your mind is too shallow and u need spoon feeding,,, he replied according scripteres,,, he didn't and or deduct using his own words,,, majaira kunoparidzwa nyambo vachiwedzerera nekutapudza,,,, Inga varume vatsiurwa wani kuti hamusiyi zvamakatanga uye vakadzi hamusiyi zvamusina kutanga,,, wavharwa Negrammer here or waskipper zvimwe,,, or wateerera nemweya weku opposer
@@clientithinktafireyizvakay5768 You are the Domkop because you fail to realize that he did not answer the question at all.
Obvious he is deluded on this one
I sometimes hate some of your words but here you said something which makes sense
If a married man cheats with a virgin or another woman it's adultery, hakuna mhombwe inopinda denga , no fornicators , harlots or adulterers that will enter heaven , read 1 Corinthians 6 from verse 1
the man is the spirit and the woman is the flesh so everyone has a man and a woman in him or her which means Vachiwenga vamonyorora shoko kkk
Aaaaaaaaah I do understand now well answered ...my apologies also
Munoziva shoko Apostle
@andrewpbc The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
Welcome to Ziklag!
Well said true gospel to the world 🌎
Amen
Thank you God for giving us Apostle Chiwenga
Bvapo
@@TheChekasKunyange mukakarwadziwa ne truth hamumise the preaching of the true gospel iwe ndiwe ungatobvapo
@@TakundaVictorMutyanda mazwi ekutenda mwari nekuda kwachiwenga haataurwe nemunhu anoziva or kuparidzirwa the truth. Harisiro true gospel
Apostle munovengerwa chokwadi shoko renyu rinondikomborera zvangu
@@TheChekas kusaritenda vhangeri haisi mhosva yako nokuti magwaro anoti paRomans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.pa saka kana usina kuvhurwa don't bother yourself
He is right in some of his teachings but apa paati if a married man cheats with a Virgin girl, in his teachings he says automatically the man must marry that girl , this is not true at all . Read Mathew 19 from verse 3 to 9 and I want you to mark verse 6. Also read Malachi 2 verse 14 to 16 Mwari anovenga kurambana also read 1 Corinthians 7 vs 10 and 11 . All these verse from Spoken by Jesus Christ himself he put it clear that he hates devorce. READ YOUR BIBLE dear brethren do not just nodd your head to everything without biblical support
Apostle shoko renyu rakanaka
@Amoschinoz APOSTLE CHIWENGA FAILED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION CORRECTLY AND WENT OFF TOPIC. I WILL EXPLAIN IN DETAIL BELOW.
Let us look at the questions the woman asked. She said, " MUKADZI AKARAMBWA NENYAYA YEHUPOMBWE HABVUMIDZWE KUROORWA, DOES THIS APPLY TO MEN AS WELL?
The audience then grumbled at this until Apostle Chiwenga told them to keep quiet as the question was intended for him and not for then. He then asked her again and she asked a second question. She said, "HOW DOES THE LAW OF GOD DEAL WITH AN ADULTEROUS MAN? TINOFANIRWA (AS WOMEN) KUITA SEI?
Apostle Chiwenga went on to change the question and translate it from a fleshly matter to a spiritual matter and started talking about Jesus and his bride the church. THIS WAS VERY WRONG!!
BIBLE CASE STUDY:
When the Pharisees came to Jesus to ask about divorce he didn't make it a spiritual matter he answered them plainly. Apostle Chiwenga is NOT Jesus but as a man of the cloth surely he should have drawn lessons from that.
SCRIPTURAL BASIS:
In Leviticus 20:10-12 and Deuteronomy 22:22-24 the law of Moses was very clear that a man and woman caught in adultery must BOTH be put to death. It does not say the man must be spared.
Apostle Chiwenga went on to talk about biology and suggested that men cannot help themselves, that women with ADULTEROUS husbands must just accept it. THIS TOO IS A POOR APPLICATION OF SCRIPTURE.
CULTURAL BACKGROUND:
In the time of Jesus both men and women were afraid to commit adultery because it was punishable by death.
In Matthew 19, the Pharisees brought a women caught in adultery to Jesus and wanted to stone her to death. Their objective was to test Jesus. What is surprising is that adultery is an offence committed by two people also the law of Moses is clear in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that both the man and women caught sleeping together must be killed. The Pharisees knew this law, so why did they want to punish the woman only????
MODERN SOCIETY :
Today adultery is considered a sin but NOT a crime. Also people caught in adultery are not put to death. In fact if you kill someone for adultery you will be tried and convicted of murder in court and punished severely. SO THE QUESTION REMAINS WHAT DO WE DO WITH AN ADULTEROUS MAN?
THE 7TH COMMANDMENT SAYS, "THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY" THIS APPLIES TO EVERYONE, NOT JUST WOMEN!!!
Culturally in the time of Jesus's and in our African cultures today. A man PAID dowry/bride price/lobola for a woman. Which is why JESUS SAID that A MAN COULD DIVORCE HIS WIFE IF SHE COMMITTED ADULTERY. THE MAN WAS THE BREAD WINNER AND PROVIDER FOR THAT FAMILY AND WOMEN WERE SEEN AS PROPERTY BELONGING TO THE MAN.
The challenge is that in western cultures people don't pay lobola /dowry. Also in interracial marriages there is no bride price to be paid. SO HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT? TIMES HAVE CHANGED??
AN PROMISCUOUS HUSBAND CAN BRING DISEASE HOME TO HIS WIFE IN THE FORM OF STIs AND EVEN HIV/AIDS.
IS CHIWENGA SUGGESTING THAT IT'S OKAY THE WOMAN MUST JUST ACCEPT THIS, SUFFER AND DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH AND LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN AS ORPHANS???
THE LADY IS ASKING A GENUINE QUESTION BECAUSE THERE ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS WHO ARE UNREPENTANT. AGAIN THE 7TH COMMANDMENT SAYS, "THOUSANDS SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY". THIS APPLIES TO BOTH WOMEN AND MAN.
THE TRUTH IS THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY WHAT MUST HAPPEN TO AN ADULTEROUS MAN BECAUSE IN THOSE TIMES IT WAS THE MAN WHO MARRIED THE WOMAN AND THEREFORE HE COULD DIVORCE HER FOR ANY REASON!!
SECONDLY, ADULTERY WAS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH SO INCIDENCE OF ADULTERY WERE VERY FEW. THIS IS ALSO WHY THE JEWS PRESSED MOSES TO ALLOW THEN TO DIVORCE THEIR WIVES FOR ANY REASON.
JESUS WAS CORRECTING THIS TEACHING/POSITION. THE MOTIVE OF THE JEWISH MEN WAS WRONG WHEN IT CAME TO DIVORCE.
THEY WERE DIVORCING FOR SILLY REASONS. IF THEY LUSTED FOR ANOTHER WOMAN THEY WOULD SIMPLY LOOK FOR A REASON TO DIVORCE THEIR WIVES.
FOR EXAMPLE WOMEN WERE BEING DIVORCED FOR BURNING THE FOOD BY ACCIDENT, SPEAKING OUT OF TURN OR ANY SILLY STUPID THING!
In conclusion, TO ANSWER THIS WOMAN'S QUESTIONS, guided by scripture, the Holy Spirit and common sense. I believe that if a man commits adultery repeatedly and unrepentant a woman can divorce /separate from him.
No one wants to suffer emotionally and physically. THIS IS NOT A GIFT FROM GOD!! THAT'S WHY I DISAGREE WITH Apostle Chiwenga.
But paMatt 19 apo that woman was caught committing adultery with who? Why was she arraigned alone?
@@libertychikanda7329 That's a good question. Where was the man?
According to the law of Moses he should have been punished with death as well.
Apostle Chiwenga seems to be saying that adultery is permissible for men and not for women. Is that Biblical?
@@yllabis I had to listen to the whole clip I think he said kwekuzopedzesera kwevideo sexual immorality is a sin to God....asi zvakadaro its not grounds for a woman to divorce her husband vati a woman cannot divorce a husband inzira dzenyika not dzekereke
@@libertychikanda7329 God hates divorce it's say so in Malachi 2 and Jesus said that to the Pharisees as well when they asked if they are allowed to divorce for any reason. I want to emphasise the word Any here, because ANY includes adultery.
Cultures have evolved and you need to appreciate that but Bible truths remain. I agree that woman should not divorce her husband but I equally agree that a man should not divorce his wife even when she has committed adultery.
Adultery by men has severe consequences. He can bring STIs and diseases like HIV back into his marital home. Surely this is not acceptable.
I would rather suggest that a woman who has an adulterous husband be allowed to separate from him especially where he is a repeat offender.
This man must receive counselling and rehabilitate himself . After which he can be reunited with his wife.
During this period however long it is both parties must not get into relationships with other people but must honor their marriage.
If the differences are irreconcilable or if the man refuses to be rehabilitated then there remain separate and unmarried until either one passes away leaving the other to remarry without violating God's law.
Apostle komborerwai
@nicolleteGariyawo The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery?
Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
Did he answer the question?
Amen true undiluted Gospel❤
The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
Stanley Clayton
mmmm this man is giving free true gospel. I was explaining the same but it was useless infront of poor pple
@abelmneni869 He handled this question very badly and went off topic. This is very poor by talent Chiwenga unfortunately folks like you don't listen carefully.
@@yllabis correct him either
@@abelmneni869 Does the Bible permit divorce? Secondly, the Scriptures say, "Do not commit adultery", does this exclude men?
If you explaining the same it means you were wrong and still wrong, the woman is the spirit and the woman is the flesh, and when jesus said becoz of the hardeness of your hearts moses allowed you to devorce your wives, what was he saying; if you look at the law its like the law allowed us to devorce Jesus christ who is the hasband to us ie if one commit adultory he or she must be stoned to death but jesus christ saying even if you do all sorts of evil you are still under his laws hence it gives everyone the chance of repentance.
the man is the spirit and the woman is the flesh
Sho, mface anoti zivei magwaro nemusoro uyu
Ndatenga hangu
Amen Apostle
@maimaponga6983 The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
chibaba cheshoko
Goodness! The Apostle varashika kare apa!
As always
True word of God indeed
Revelation yemurume uyu haidiwe nevakadzi
Uyu anoziva shoko uyu
ndatenda kushoko ❤
The real truth expressed
Ndiye akazova mkadzi wake
He did not answer the question at all. In his head, he thinks he answered it. 😂
You didn't hear, Christ does not commit adultery so the husband is like Christ and the woman as the church
Saka apa ati kudiiiko nemubvunzo wabvunzwa, arikuti here since Christ asingabvunzwe hupombwe zvoreva wo here kuti mutume haabvunzwe.....mubvunzo wauri wekuti law of Christ inoti kudiii pamusoro pemurume anenge apomba.....kuvakadzi mati ngaarambwe ko murume mutemo unoti kudiiii?
@markkadziyanike7783 iwe une chiedza. Mubvunzo hauna kupindurwa apa. Instead of kuti handizive, he went off topic.
The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery?
Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
So women must just accept and unrepentant, adulterous man and suffer emotionally and physically?
Mukuru uyu shoko ramwari anoriziva vanobvumirana neni simudzai maoko
kkkk rakamonyororwa shoko hazvisirizvo zvaarikutaura he is lost
True ..Tiri kudzidza
@tatendatozivepi8074 The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
Mubvunzo hauna kudarwa apa.
sound doctrine for sure
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But Hosea is used to correct this understanding of remarriage or someone married to promiscuous wife
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@necodimusnhekairo The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
Yes it's through but the question is what did God say to a man who is busy galavanting with women whilst he is married because he married
if u cant judge God for destroying pple of Sodom and Gomorrah that can answer u
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What's the name of this sermon bro
Numbers 12v14… God standard in heaven of judgement is based on human standard… the bible is written with cooperation of human standard..
@doceke The 7th commandment says, "Thou shall not commit adultery". When did it become acceptable for men to commit adultery?
Is he saying it's okay for men to commit adultery? Adulterous men bring sickness, disease and death to the home. Is this okay?
@@yllabis But God used human standard to sentence Miriam dor her act
@@doceke Sorry I don't understand what you mean to say here. But u think that you and I are agreeing that Apostle Chiwenga did not answer this question very well isn't it?
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The lady in green, Julia Roberts is PRETTY, she is BEAUTIFUL. She needs to look into the mirror & will find reason why men cheat. Apostle that is the short answer. What say you?
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Ok, ok, this is all in jest. But it’s honestly a compliment to my very beautiful sister. If you think it’s offensive l’ll delete. Tell me.
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So don't allow woman 2 preach in church sir!
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Apostle vhurai branch kukaroi
It's already there
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Iwe wanzwei kana usina chawanzwa nyarara usabhon'e
Ndovhangeri iri kwete zvekutuka 😂😂
God created men and women in his own image.So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 1v27.
@@movenchawira3553 it’s a lie ? God Saïd Lets make man out of our own image then he make Adam the spirit then in Genesis 2 v 7 ndopaakaUmba Nyama iyi ndokuzofemera mweya kwazorarisa Adam murume kuti ndokutora mbabvu Ndokuziva Eva muno verenga Bible muchifungei
Amen
Bhuku
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URI duzununu unoda kuvigwa URI muupenyu hadzikakati dzidza wahanyararauko
Apostle shoko renyu rakanaka
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Ndiwe wakatorasika manje
Tinotenda shoko reMupositori aaaa tinodzidza
Ko zvekuisa mifananidzo ya Chiwenga yaa church ya Chiwenga here
Haaa zvemabanners zviri kwese kusiya kwemamissioneries church like Roma, Anglican, Methodist
Mwari ngaandiregere uyuuu chero akaparidza cy handirinzwe nekushora kwaanoita vanhu vamwari anenge ndiye Mwari ummmmmmm
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Scripture says the only reason for divorce is Fornication not Adultery (they are two different things check English dictionary)
The man of Genesis 1:27 was not the same as of genesis 2. The man made in the image of God was both male and female and a spirit man, the one made out of the ground is not in the image of God because God is not flesh but Spirit (that's scripture)
Saka verse yaverengwa munotii nayo
Adultery is the only reason for divorce biblically not fornicating. If you are not married but sleeping around it’s called fornicating. If you are married and you sleep with someone else other than your hubby or wife that Adultery.
Yes adultery and fornicating are true different things and I just explained them.
@@TribeofLevi0404 Matthew 5:32 KJV
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
That’s Jesus in Matthew
Show me the scripture which says if a woman commits adultery she can be divorced
I only gave definitions for fornicating and adultery. The difference between the two. I think we are saying the same thing but from a different angle. In other versions that scripture says “ you can only divorce your wife for sexual immorality”. The point is which I agree with if your wife sleeps with someone else which is considered sexual immorality or adultery you are free to divorce them which I agree with cos that’s what scripture says.
That scripture goes on to say whoever marries that woman causes her to commit adultery because God says you can only remarry if your spouse dies. If you divorce you stay single as long as you have a living spouse but are free to remarry if your hubby or wife dies.
1corinth 7:39
A wife is bound by law as long as her husband lives, but if her husband dies she’s at liberty to marry whom she wishes, only in the Lord.
The only reason a wife can be divorced is kuhura ie sleeping with someone else nyaya yanetsa chete is translation between the words adultery & fornicating otherwise we are saying the same thing.
I’m a single woman and if I’m sleeping around unmarried I’m fornicating, you cannot say I’m committing adultery because I’m not married I’m single.
Fornicating definition: consensual sexual intercourse between a man and a esp single woman who are not married to each other.
Adultery definition: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.
@@TribeofLevi0404 in short it’s true that fornication is a reason for divorce contrary to your claim the only reason is adultery, the verse specifically says except for fornication. How readest thou? Hence you are not saying the same thing.
Muchinda ane heresy uyu.
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@@CtorOnline chidofo kungoti hameni kuheresy yemunhu anopindura zvekuhura kwevarume achishandisa Adam.
Unotomboziva chinonzi heresy yacho here😂
@@kenwardmarambahwenda yes, although heresy is hard to detect Eg his teaching about kjv.
@@TheChekas ... have ever listened to a full sermon kana maviri zvawo kwete ma clips ana Zigo I mean ma full sermons ... kana usina go and listen without any rush... uchamuona Kristu achiratidzwa pachena and the standards of God upright
Amen
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Amen