Is It Sinful to be a Gay Pastor?
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- In today’s episode of Assumptions we have Gay Pastors confront assumptions about their faith and sexuality.
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0:00 INTRODUCTION
0:54 GAY PASTORS DON'T EXIST
1:44 GAY PASTORS SHOULDN'T COME OUT IF THEY'RE ALREADY PREACHING
4:01 OTHER QUEER PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND GAY PASTORS
6:04 THE BIBLE DOESN'T SUPPORT HOMOSEXUALITY
8:53 GAY PASTORS SHOULDN'T DATE
10:31 GAY PASTORS SHOULD INFORM THEIR CONGREGATION WHEN DATING SOMEONE NEW
11:33 ALL PASTORS PRACTICE CELIBACY
13:44 SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE MAKES WOMEN UNPURE
15:13 IF YOU'RE CHRISTIAN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE QUEER SEX
17:02 WOMEN CAN'T BE PASTORS
19:20 GAY CLERGY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED AROUND CHILDREN
21:06 THE BIBLE DOESN'T SUPPORT TRANS PEOPLE
24:50 MISSION WORK IS ALWAYS BENEFICIAL
28:29 ADVICE FOR YOUNG QUEER CHRISTIANS
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In the church I grew up in,(and due to me being a minor, still made to go to) a rumour was started about me from a PARENT, an adult, she was in 40’s, and she made a rumour about me being gay. I wasn’t invited to hang out at my friends houses anymore, my mum started giving me “talks”, they spoke more about the “worldly homosexuals” in church and youth group, I wasn’t allowed to be a kids church leader, parents warned girls my age, my friends, to never be alone with me.
I was 12.
That’s horrible. I’m so sorry that happened to you
I hope that others can learn to show you kindness properly in future 💖😭
That horrifying. I’m so sorry that happened to you, you did not deserve that. ❤
Don’t tell your parents I said this, but that’s shit parenting. Hope peope got over it though.😁❤
Imagine having that much of an empty existence that you bother to spread rumors about a 12 yo
Britt talking about how easy it was for her to not be tempted by boys is exactly how I felt as an asexual. "Don't have sex or you might get pregnant or get an STD". Ok, that was easy. Why is everyone else struggling?
Same. I was VERY smug for a hot minute 😂
as an ace man, and i know i wont experience the same risks as women would, but when i reached college, i heard of friends who had babies already, and i just never even thought why i would do that. It was so easy for me to not have sex, and now I know why.
LITERALLY SAME… i never had those urges or super duper rarely near never and i always never understood the world from that point of view bc i dont feel that way i was like how are people struggling it’s literally so easy for me. Perhaps I should count it as a blessing. Then I was worried i would never be able to date because of it cause many people like are very oriented around you know that in a relationship but i knew someone for quite a few years and he’s okay with me being ace and not really wanting to do that stuff often. I’m truly so lucky in this case but sometimes i wonder well i know im different from lots of people maybe that’s the reason its so hard for me to find common ground or make friends with others.
? You know you can get into a relationship without temptation or without having an intercourse and yes it's hard because both of the genders can be deceiving doesn't mean you should just not love any of them because you don't want to get pregnant or get an STD cuz what do you expect to happen if you do end up having an intercourse with somebody that's why you need to be more careful on who you decide to be with but mostly people want to be single because of this society or just want to be single because they just want to but normally the reason why the Bible was talking about for men and women to be together was because if you're tempted to pleasure you might end up touching yourself uncontrollably and that's why he recommended some people to get into a relationship so they can control yourself but if you can control yourself even if you're single without touching yourself then yeah you can be by yourself just saying
And the religion I've been approached to says that there's no such thing as hell The only thing that happens if you don't obey him and his commandments is that you would just be asleep nothing painful or torturous it doesn't matter what type of person you are you will get the same fate you would just be asleep it would be peaceful but that's why in my religion it says that we were created to have free will and that's why some people will make either good or bad decisions you don't have to follow the religion at all The only thing that will happen is that you will be asleep cuz that is the only way for you to repent for your sin because if you are born in this world you are born a sinner but if you follow his commandments you can redeem yourself and have a chance but you don't have to follow his commandments and you shouldn't follow his commandments just because you don't want to be asleep people will make it sound like it's painful but it's not it's peaceful You're just going to be asleep and that's it
My husband and I were married by a gay pastor. AND we played Cards Against Humanity after the reception, which he won, coming up with the craziest answers.
A gay man had the most whit? Shocker. Lmao
honestly, thats iconic.
Absolutely based.
you cant be gay and a pastor
I really needed to hear that God isn't about control. God made us because of love, because of beauty. We're like flowers in his garden to celebrate, to enjoy life.
Yes. We have agency. But he has a set of commands that we have to follow if we want to inherit the kingdom of god. Following the Bible is not like shopping, you don’t get to choose what we want to follow. We MUST follow the Bible in its full context and its full truth.
@@justadefaultguy Very true.
Also, yes, he was never about control, as he literally chose to give us free will the Adam and Eve's choice to eat the fruit in Eden.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Nuff said
But the damn fucking trash book says otherwise.
@@coltonk.3086and if he didn’t give us free will… then everybody would be going to heaven. Nice one god.
This comment section does not seem to love others and their opinions the way Jesus would.
Hate the sin, love the sinner. This sinner has embraced his own sin, and if he had any decency as a faithful son of God, he would repent his degenerate lifestyle
@@johnharvelhines9803Sounds like your hating him tbh. You're the real hypocrite
@@lillyearly2904being honest with people in a direct way to people can’t understand is not hate.
@@johnharvelhines9803Hate the Belief, Not the Believer. We can oppose Christianity but not hate Christians. This goes both ways buddy and we can view your lifestyle as a D*generate lifestyle too.
Jesus loves everyone, but he would not keep his mouth quiet if someone's opinion was wrong. And he didn't. That's simply what we're doing here.
As a straight person with tons of religious trauma, this was so healing to watch. Seeing people pave their own path with their faith is so beautiful.
That’s literally not what being a Christian is about
@@dxconnor Philippians 2:12-13 would disagree
@@brewmancer3817 nope it agrees. Maybe reread the Bible before spitting your heterodoxy
I'm inclined to agree, I certainly have religious trauma that makes it unlikely that I will want to find community in the church, but I think that it is so nice to see people making a more inclusive space within the church. I find it hopeful that someday those that come after me may not have to experience the severing of their spirituality due to a hateful church that condemns instead of trying to understand. More love. More hope.
As a Straight Person, I think you're an absolute m*ron for believing this stuff. When are y'all going to stop being so Gullible and realize that Non Christian groups cannot coexist with Christians. We are enemies. Always have been. Always will be.
Being a gay Christian is difficult at times because it's so hard to find people who understand you. Speaking with other Christians is hard because you don't know whether they are going to hate you or not. Compare that to talking to other LGBTQ people where they don't hate me for it; obviously, it is just a lot of them don't understand. It's hard to find a place where I belong in the Christian community because there's so much hate towards people like me there. I wish I could go to a church and experience that, but it's hard to find inclusive churches.
Hey I’m just wondering no hate whatsoever but how can you call yourself Christian and be gay when the Bible says being gay is bad Leviticus 18:22. Obviously God still loves you and all that I’m just curious how you justify it. Seriously I’m not trying to hate or anything I just want to understand
Yeah, it must be hard joining the side of your enemies.
@@bromyomedits Leviticus 18:22 used to be about P*dophilic Inc*st more than 80 years ago, within that time it was edited to be about gay people. It’s almost as if a book written by human hand was edited at the whims of said humans. Funny how that works.
homosexuality is a sin
This is exactly how I feel. Just know, there's people out there like us; we've just got to look. I really hope you find a church you feel comfortable and safe in. I'm sort of in the same dilemma. I wish you all the best
Hi, I’m an ally and a Christian. Just wanted to show some support since a lot of comments are so hateful. It’s really sad how many “Christians” are pushing people away from the church and sinning by saying cruel things. I’m glad these pastors are spreading love and showing that everyone is welcomed by God.
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So true. Why don't those hateful people understand that they're the reason why people don't like Christians
Yeah 👍 good job you pray to gay sh-t
You cannot be an Ally and a Christian. Pick one because Christians and Gays ( As Well as Christians and every other group in existence) are enemies.
Seek therapy
love this new series-- as Jubilee goes downhill this offers a bright spot to fill that vacancy
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I do agree that jubilee is going downhill, but I don’t believe Anthony's show is a good replacement for their middle ground videos. While I do appreciate a lot of the content Anthony puts out (I swear to God, if more people were as understanding and accepting as he is, humans would be the most peaceful species on the planet), all this show really does is create an echo chamber. Both jubilee and Anthony's shows are good concepts, but they're done with different purposes, and switching from watching a show that presents you with both sides of an argument to a show that just locks you up in an echo chamber is not a good idea.
@@paulinaskierska7605Bigots don't deserve an amplifying platform. They have their right to express their opinion, but that doesn't mean that they have to be given an additional platform to spread their hate and ignorance.
Thus far, every episode of this, the so-called "other side" would all be bigots. Screw them.
@thembill8246 This reasoning only works since Anthony is giving the marginalized a platform. Harder science topics like nuclear energy, A.I. , animal rights, (even trans ahletes), etc absolutely need nuanced viewpoints and expert/medical opinion.
@@paulinaskierska7605 I disagree that a 30 minute video can be considered an echo chamber. Echo chambers on social media become problematic when day in and day out, people are exposed only to one side of the story, one type of opinion. What Anthony is doing is providing people who are very rarely heard a chance to explain their opinions more thoroughly, with other experts on the topic to bounce off of, without getting shouted down by opposing opinions after about a minute of talking. The other side of the story is likely the majority opinion that everyone has already heard, whether they agree or not.
I guess what I want to say is that this series is giving space for a more in depth conversation that is rarely heard, and the other side of the story is easily accessible - the whole point of the "assumptions" concept is that the other side is what many people have heard of or believed already. Not every video about controversial subjects has to be a debate.
It's interesting to see how sometimes people get called out for interpreting religion a certain way when technically we all sort of do that. It's not like there's a hive mind of people that feel exactly the same about anything. In a way, no matter how similar a person's spiritual beliefs may be to another's, no two people will ever believe in the same religion or the same diety- not even within Christianity.
So at the end of the day we should just let each other be. And whatever happens after death will be our own personal business and then we can go from there
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No truer words have been said. People need to learn to actually respect each other instead of assuming they can tell other people what to do.
I see your point but say if Christianity is true right and as a Christian one of your responsibilities is to help people not send themselves to hell, why wouldn’t you try?
It’s like knowing someone you know is going to a dangerous place soon but they don’t know that, but you do, why would you not tell them they shouldn’t go there
Christians are supposed to hate Gays. It's a requirement.
It’s important to interpret God the way the Bible reads. Any other interpretation is a false God
Damn this is really an interesting topic, anthony slaying honestly with his content
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@@p-__ Prove it
It’s not an interesting topic, “No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may come into the assembly of the LORD” it’s just delusional people. I don’t understand how they can misinterpret the Bible and it’s clear, anti LGBTQ verses
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@@p-__Prove it
I feel like Christians across the board (traditional or progressive) lose sight of why we are Christian in the first place. When we are born again, we want live as the new creation we are, which should lead us to live lives that glorify God and not ourselves.
When phrases like “my truth is that ______” come up, it seems to all center around the individual. “My truth” seeks affirmation for a preconceived understanding. I know people like to cater the Bible to how they feel the world should work (I have too), but isn’t that a flawed ideology, especially as a Christian? Proverbs 3:5 talks about “not leaning on your own understanding”, why? Because what we make of this world is flawed and we will certainly be enticed to start living in a way that doesn’t honor our Lord. We have a sin nature and will always be drawn to living in sinful ways, full stop.
In the super self-centered culture that we live in today, modern Christians can start to ask “what can God bring to the table that I didn’t have before” or “how can believing in God benefit me” or “what pieces of the Bible affirm my old lifestyle, and what parts don’t, and the parts that don’t, how can they be read in a way that justifies the way I live so I don’t have to let go of my old life?”
Don’t get me wrong, there are benefits that come with giving your life to Jesus. The Holy Spirit, a personal relationship with God, and most famously living in eternity with God. And we are called to enjoy and be grateful for and put our hope in all of these things. But the benefits of being saved DO NOT start with or revolve around us, or and they certainly don’t conform to what we think the benefits should be.
I’m not sure you realize how much of what you just said is constructed by people who chose what they felt like God did and didn’t value or what God does and does not compromise on.
Well spoken
@@wilsonfisher5011 The 10 commandments were written in stone twice because of this. The Bible is Holy Spirit inspired, not to oppress just gay or LGBTQIA+ people but to convict people of sin (every person has sin) and to bring them to a stance of objective truth, which is found in one's conscious. We need to repent and turn to God or we will become a degraded society. I'm praying for you. God bless!
Oh yeah! Work for others and do it for god so you are a willing servant to your master. Thanks for reminding me that your damn Bible was used to validate African slavery.
But it’s a paradox, cause it only starts with each individual’s interpretation
This was a great conversation! I wish I had had people like this while I was questioning my faith. I left catholicism due to the mean and painful rhetoric I heard against the LGBT community prior to even figuring out my own bisexuality because it felt too uncomfortable to be a part of that type of community.
I love hearing from pro-queer Christians. Christianity has changed and developed so many different branches over the years, it’s not out of the ordinary for people to make a pro-queer branch in a similar way that Martin Luther started a new branch from his grievances
I grew up Catholic as well, but also left it. It's interesting, cause I've learned as I've grown up and talked to other people who also grew up in Catholicism in particular that pretty much every single parish had different opinions on the matter. One near where I grew up had LGBT+ masses (on days other than Sunday, obviously, because what happens on Sundays gets decided by the Vatican, so individual churches don't have much of a choice in what happens those days), another on the other side of town would spew hatred against LGBT+ people. I grew up in a church that was closer to the former, and it was a real shock in high school hearing someone use their Catholicism as reason to hate gay people. Cause that was not what I knew, and if my super-religious Catholic grandparents who went to church daily until their age caught up to them are of any indication, it wasn't what they knew either.
I'm sorry to hear you've left however I'd like it if you just quickly read my story and possibly consider Christianity again after hearing it.
I left Catholicism after growing in a catholic household and it has been the biggest tension between my mum and I since (about 6 months now). I left because of the way that Catholicism approached Christianity as a whole in the sense of focusing on the sacraments and honestly in my opinion forgetting the bible sometimes. I moved to an Anglican church with 2 of my school friends. My other option was a Baptist church with a lot more of my school friends but this time I picked my church because of the people and loads more opportunities to learn more and the feeling of being able to ask questions and not feel shamed.
What I want to get out of this is try again please. And you may not find a church that can help you. You might get rejected just like with my mum but please keep trying to find a church that can answer your questions. In as little words as possible, you can be a gay Christian but God says we shouldn't have sex before marriage and marriage is between a man and a woman. These are non negotiable in Christianity.
Thank you. And I'm sorry the church has hurt you but I'll be praying that you come back to Christ
This is not my faith, but I would still be overjoyed to attend a service run by any one of these pastors. Wonderful discussion. Thank you so much for sharing with us.
This is not my faith either. I’m a true Christian.
@@teeeff8337 "True Christian" okay bud
@@chelseydunn3636 yes, meaning I don’t change Christianity to fit my lifestyle. When I sin, I acknowledge it. I believe in Jesus and even if I don’t necessarily like or agree with some of the things in the Bible, I accept the Bible because I don’t make the rules, God does.
@@teeeff8337then whats your opinion on the people who said “nah men sleeping with k!ds is fine. Its gays that are the real issue” in 1946? Is that what you believe? Gods word should be edited by man to fit your political narrative?
@@Ellisonave Well, my opinion is that the people who are claiming the Bible did not prohibit homosexuality until 1946 and are claiming it was not a sin until 1946, are the ones editing the bible, most likely to fit THEIR political narrative.
Do you think that people who read the Bible before 1946, didn’t interpret it as condemning homosexuality? That this was a belief that only started in 1946? The word homosexual was not in the original bible because it’s an English word. The word in question in Greek is “arsenokoitai” and it was translated to “homosexual” in 1946. The real question is whether the English word, homosexual, is an accurate translation of “arsenokoitai.” In recent years, people are claiming it means “boy molester.” Arsenokoitai is thought to have been made up by Paul, combining 2 words, “arsen” which translates to man and “koite” which translates to bed used in a sexual manner (our word coitus).
So arenokoitai means men who bed other males. Nothing in the word itself or it’s context restricts the meaning to pedophilia. Furthermore, the 2 words Paul combined, appeared together in 2 Old Testament prohibitions against homosexual sex. So even if the word “homosexual” is a bad translation, or even if it never appeared in the bible, the behavior is still described and prohibited.
Just read
Leviticus 18:22 or Romans 1:27
Not to mention, homosexual sex is ruled out by the Bible’s consistent teaching on sex and marriage.
as a pansexual christian, thank you for this video!! one of the biggest struggles i face is not fitting into christian spaces because i’m lgbt and not fitting into lgbt spaces because i’m a christian. seeing representation for people like me, especially religious leaders, is awesome.
Definitely what I thought the whole time 💚
You are not a Christian if you are a "pansexual." Saying you are is entirely delusional.
Right??? I definitely feel this way too
@@amarylily then the devil has deceived you. But don't say you were not warned. You have your knowledge of your own sin
Stop reading scripture the way you want it to be read but instead find the truth. Homosexuality is very evidently a sin and there is no other way to say that
While I no longer identify as Christian, I was so lucky to be raised Episcopalian. Being gay was never an issue within my church, and as I've seen over the years in the Episcopalian church in general. Again, I'm no longer in the faith, but it just makes me happy to know that when I do occasionally attend services with my family I'm not unwelcome or unaccepted.
I didn't grow up under the Anglican/Episcopalian umbrella, but I love how many LGBT pastors are in the church, like Richard Coles who I've seen on British TV. I'm sure there are plenty of Catholic priests (the denomination I grew up in) who are gay, but Catholic priests have to be celibate anyway, so...
I found this episode very healing. Where I am from the church is getting more progressive, but female priests are still unheard of and my mom is on the more conservative side if it's about her own religion. So seeing that there are people fighting to include more people in religion is amazing!
As a queer person who is the kid of a queer pastor, this is so healing to see, and probably the first time where I have seen people with similar lived experiences, this video is so healing!
Lol... careful now. People gonna say he groomed you.
Though I doubt this comment is real. So many specific comments about healing lol.
I dont hate gay people BUT homosexuality is an abomination to God!!!
@@user-bz7qg5xw6hbe quiet and let people speak. It's not your place to correct. It's your place to listen. Let them speak however they wish.
If you learn of God from the word of sinful man, instead and in contrary to the actual word of God; you have submitted yourself to the nature of sin, not the spirit of God; which could ever actually make you to be saved
As a trans person who has a sh,it ton of religious trauma, this was amazing. I loved it
yeah :)
He was just making it up. Don’t put too much weight into what this guy is saying.
@@bmak76 me or the pastor? Also she if you are talking about me.
@@bmak76so does everyone who follows religion. Religion is interpreted how people want individually. It's not a set in stone thing.
@@TokiBirdManit actually is but people have the right to interpret it how they wont but the bible is very clear
Love the videos that stir the pot like this! Religion has always been changed/revised/edited/rewritten in history to keep up with the times. Personally I'm non religious but I'm also non judgmental and I love learning about religion and how it was used throughout history. Hopefully I'll be able to full see this religious shift play out throughout my life.
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i absolutely feel the same way
If they added just one REAL pastor to the mix he would destroy these False pastors ideas.
@@justadefaultguy Look at the way you are treating people. no wonder Christianity isn't taken seriously at all these days
This is awesome. Great idea Anthony
3:20 Girl, SAME. Growing up Southern Baptist and, as I would much later realize, Asexual, I had no idea about it and just thought that I was just being an awesome christian because I didn't have the desire that everyone else seemed to struggle with, where they wanted to mash bits with another person.
Deconverting really opened up a floodgate of self-discovery. Unfortunately it didn't happen for me until I was 31.
This is why I advocate for much better sex education, including teaching about GRSM people because I don't want anyone else to have to spend half their life thinking that they're broken and pretending that they're someone they're not like I did.
I'm an athiest pansexual who's been raised in the Mormon church my entire life, so ive seen a great deal of how important religion and sexual orientation are to both sides of the spectrum. Many Christians, obviously, vilify, slander, and suppress queer people, and this is the stuff that drove me out of belief. Because of this treatment, many queer people, myself included, feel inclined to despise religion as a whole. I know the hypocrisy of the Mormon church and it drives me insane and has caused so many issues in my life, but i also know how meaningful and important people's religions are to them as most of my family is devout to the faith.
We forget who the people behind the labels are and despise them only because of their label. At the end of the road, the only thing that matters is respecting people's beliefs. Everyone deserves to follow whats meaningful to them and their religion, sexuality, or gender orientation should never affect how you treat someone. I believe this very passionately and, though i don't believe, Christ's love and wisdom inspires me.
TDLR: Just be excellent to each other.
It takes a lot of maturity to feel excluded from a place that is supposed to help you and protect you, and for you to rise above that. Props to you.
I'm sorry that you were treated that way. I'm a member myself and it hurts me when I hear these stories because it's not because the church hates you, it's because there are a bunch of the older generation who still believes members of the LGBTQ+ are evil but that's simply not true. We love you and I hope you are able to heal from that.
I'm not religious myself but these seem like kind people and I wish them the best going forward.
i have never, ever, heard a Pastor of any kind say that trans people are not only acceptable but an important part of scripture until now. It actually brought me to tears… for a long time i completely abandoned church and religion as a whole because i just never felt i’d be accepted but this actually gives me some hope for the future.
Just because a man says it does not negate the word of God! For believing it does, your eternal damnation will be absolutely warranted.
@@jothePianoMaster13 the “word of god” you speak of was also written by man
@diosaurusrex Don't claim God or the Bible then to be of any authority to you. If you want to live life however you wish with merely the idea of God then fine. But in that case God is entirely what you make of it and is not Himself any actual objective thing. In other words, you live as if God is not actually existing, only that you say that you do believe it.
@@jothePianoMaster13 god, you are insufferable
@@jothePianoMaster13 Send me a postcard from Hell when you get there, okay?
I have one single question for everyone. Where is contextual and biblical causes for the point of view expressed in this video? I am happy to have an open discussion based on what the Bible expresses in these very topics.
Well, from my knowledge of the Bible, Christ is coming for his bride. He is straight. When people target being gay as a sin, it is, but it matters what those people that have same sex attractions do about their situation❤
Thank you so much for this!
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Sexual health is so important for everyone and I agree with these pastors saying how toxic the church can be towards that. The church talks about how purity until marriage is important but they don’t talk about how beautiful that connection is.
Loved this video. I was raised in a Catholic family, in a country where Catholicism is the majority religion. Even though I'm not a religious person, I consider myself lucky that my parents taught me God would never hate anyone, even those who we as human beings would consider "evil". They had no idea they were raising a queer child till I came out to them in my 20s lol. To this day I still feel a little fear and rejection when talking to people who are very vocal about their faith but after watching this video I feel much more hopeful and it really opened my mind. I think it's important to acknowledge people's trauma caused by religion and to also hear this side. One does not negate the other.
Way to fall for the Propaganda. If you're Queer than yes, you should absolutely be terrified to be around people that follow Christianity ( and the other Two Abrahamic Faiths). Don't believe videos like this, they're still your enemies. Always have been. Always Will be.
Well that God loved everybody is Catholic dogma.
The idea that God doesn’t love everybody is called Calvinism (predestination). And people think the Protestant Reformation created human progress…
i’m a trans person with religious trauma who’s usually pretty emotionally dead inside but damn i teared up listening to this vid, thinking “what a fucking waste” that i was raised in a church that hurt me and taught me hate instead of loving me and teaching me love, the kind of love these pastors model
So sorry to hear that :( Most christians always complaining that the youth doesn't go to church anymore while there's literally churches acting like this. If there's one thing I hate is other christians hating on people being themselves and not acting like Jesus would do. Hope you're doing better now :)
great topic to start of this new series excited for more!
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There was actually a episode before this with trans athletes and it’s really interesting
There were two episodes before this: Trans athletes and Asexuals
nicole seems really awesome, thank you for this series!
My reasoning is that God hates all lust, and that includes straight lust. Your sexuality decides who you love, and the sex part comes second, and since God says it's good to love each other, there's no reason not to be both gay and Christian.
Well, the reason would be that the Bible says it’s an abomination. And in the Old Testament the punishment is being put to death. You don’t have to agree that it’s a sin, but you should understand that Christian’s believe it’s a sin because the Bible so clearly says so
@@teeeff8337 That same book (Leviticus) also said in chapter 25 that you can own other human beings, so if we can throw out that one (for good reason), we can probably also throw out the one about hating gay people (assuming that's actually what the original text was trying to say, which is in itself a point of controversy).
@@ajs787 Don’t be silly, the Bible does not teach to hate gay people lol It says that homosexuality is a sin. There’s no throwing it out, it’s clear. You can’t change God’s word to fit your beliefs, He makes the rules. Altho, He gave you free will and you don’t have to follow them nor do you have to believe in Him.
God created all men equally and desires all His people to be free. Back then, mosaic law required all slaves to be treated well and be set free after 7 years of service (unlike the slavery that happened down south). Slavery in biblical times was a form of employment. The Israelites would sell themselves as slaves when they couldn’t pay their debts or provide for their families. Definitely not saying slavery is or was ever ok, but Mosiac law was put in place to protect slaves from cruelty back then. Very different from the slavery that we are familiar with, that was based on race and where slaves were allowed to be terribly mistreated (understatement). Slavery is a result of sin and unfortunately, slavery hasn’t been “thrown out,” it is still very much practiced today in many parts of the world. When understanding the Bible as a whole, not only is slavery fundamentally wrong today, but it is forbidden. It’s an abomination.
When understanding the Bible as a whole, homosexuality is a sin. God created women specifically for men.
I’m not saying you have to agree with it, you’re free to completely oppose the Christian religion if you’d like. I’m just saying that it’s a belief in the Christian faith per the Bible and that belief is not going to change no matter how much we’d like it to.
@teeeff8337 I'm Christian, and I'm pretty sure 1946 wasn't the most diverse of times, which is why they changed the bible to fit their view points of their time. So nobody is changing the bible to fit their view point except you. Also, even if it was a sin, it doesn't matter when the old testaments prophecy has been fulfilled because Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, so cherry picking any sin outside of the 10 commandments as being "more wrong" makes no sense. The Old Testament considered cutting your hair, and and eating any animal with hooves wrong too, and there's no outrage about that. And speaking of context, any time homosexuality is mentioned in the bible, it's always in the context of another sin being performed, such as adultery, prostitution, lust, or it's a mistranslation of man shall not lay with boys/children. And while God does mention women being made for man, it's in the context of what a family does for one another, and of course the story of Adam and Eve. God makes it abundantly more clear in many other verses that love is good, and goes on to define it multiple times, but not once does he mention that gay love isn't real love, or that it's wrong.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.
@@12_Bitcat Wow, I’m literally so confused lol. Do you think the Old Testament is from 1946??
And then you go on to say, and I quote, “they changed the Bible to fit their view points of their time. So nobody is changing the Bible to fit their view point except you” please make that make sense.
Also, not sure when I cherry picked homosexuality as being more wrong, or why you quoted “more wrong” as if I used those words. I didn’t cherry pick anything, homosexuality is just the topic of this video and what is being discussed. There’s no “outrage” about eating animals with hooves because Christians today can eat any food they want because God has declared all food to be good in
1 Timothy 4:4-5
Do you think when God speaks about love He is speaking about romantic love? When God says love thy neighbor he is talking about everyone around you, not a romantic love.
The Bible speaks clearly and plainly about the sin of homosexuality in the Old and New Testament. And no, when the Bible mentions homosexuality, it is not always in context of another sin being performed. It’s in context of “men who practice homosexuality” or “performing homosexual acts” or simply just being “homosexual”
Romans 1:26-27
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:8-11
It is definitely clear that homosexuality or “gay love” is wrong per the Bible.
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
THANK YOU ALL for this episode! This is by far one of my favorite youtube videos of 2023. Amen and God bless! 😊
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@@p-__just stop.
Oh this is cool! Im so excited to see the new series.
I love this video! I have grown up in a Southern Baptist church since I was in the womb. I started questioning my sexuality 2 years ago as a Senior in High school. I believe God loves everyone and it doesn’t matter who someone loves. God love anyone and everyone. I believe God loves every person no matter the sexuality, race, beliefs, gender(or lack of), and career. Because of growing up in a southern baptist conservative family, when I started questioning my sexuality lead me to question my religion also. Then I developed my own beliefs and own opinions apart from my family. I am still in the closet especially around family cause they have expressed how they would be mad and upset if I ever was gay and that they expect me to be marry a man. I am still questioning my sexuality and I feel I will never be accepted or loved in my family if I ever came out as any part of the lgbtq+.
Thank you this comment takes a lot of strength. I see that. Thank you for contributing to this conversation.
May you repent, and find the Lord Jesus's salvation
as a senior in high school right now, you’re literally so cool for that
@@and_salty658 No, yielding to sin isn't cool.
@@and_salty658 I’m not a senior anymore, it was 2021-2022 that I started questioning. Thanks tho! You’re cool too!
21:37 No. This scripture is about allowing your ego to die so that you can be a temple of God. You crucify your fleshy desires to serve God. This is why pastors should studying the writings of the Church Fathers from the early centuries, because they understood the teaching.
I would really love to see “I spend a day with the guys from Askcliffe” or something like that.
Amazing brothers in Christ.
this video's really changed how i think about religion. im nonbinary and ive always been very scared of the church but seeing these pastors openly talk about these issues and hearing how open they were to trans and nb people was just beautiful. I've never thought of the resurection of christ as a beautiful TRANSformation, always just looked at it as mystical religous metaphors but its a really beautiful interpretation.
I feel i might try church, it still feels terrifying to say but this gives me a little bit more comfort and confidence in the idea. i live in a really conservative rural area tho so that still makes me a lil cautious.
You do need to be afraid because these people are liars. Christians are required to hate LGBTQ people and other Non Traditional Groups. This is just BS Propaganda to try to trick Gullible people into believing otherwise.
I'm not saying I agree with you, but if you want to go back to church that's a great thing! would really advise you to look into the theologies of churches around you and probably fine one that's more liberal, like Episcopalian
@@aaronmontgomeryward2447I would look into United Methodist churches too. Definitely do your research though as there is a break happening. I think most of the churches leaving have left by now. (I know several out queer clergy at least in Michigan)
@@aaronmontgomeryward2447 It's interesting about the Anglican/Episcopalian vicars, cause it was an Anglican vicar on youtube who I first heard field the concept that God is neither male nor female (which makes perfect sense, God isn't human, which was the priest's argument, and God not being human is something I'm pretty sure everybody who practices Christianity agrees with).
@@ajs787 ya Episcopalians tend to be more liberal in their interpretation of the Bible, so it’s probably what you’re looking for. Well it’s true that God is not a human, since He made humans lol He is still a ‘man’ as He’s referred to as Father in the Bible
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"How do you develop a healthy sexual ethic as a person living in the city in 2023"
I feel so seen by this! Through this whole section I'm like, listening intently. I tried to talk with my best friend about this and she said no one thinks about it as much as I do, and not to worry and to give myself permission to be messy. But I could hurt other people, and that would hurt me too. And I just feel like this discussion is exactly what I've been needing. Like yesssss. How do you treat people in situations like that?
these assumption videos are some of the most impactful content i consume - it is so refreshing to hear those experiencing the issue talk about the issue
This video was so, so healing to watch. And for other LGTBQIA+ folks struggling with their faith or their identity, as a non-binary Christian, please know that you aren’t alone ❤ I wish I would’ve seen this video when I first started my coming out journey!
I am catholic and I just want to give my opinion on this matter. Jesus and god said they love everyone. It’s in the bible that god loves you no matter what, and you are still his child. So why are we telling people they can’t practise a certain religion and be gay? Don’t we want more people to see how good god is and to help people get to heaven. I really don’t care what religion you follow if any, but you should be able to be who your are and still feel loved and protected.
I'm a Catholic and I just want to clarify your statement and say that in 1 Corinthians 6:9-20 it says:
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. 12"Everything is permissible for me"-but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"-but I will not be mastered by anything. 13"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"-but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh." 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. 18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Be a better Catholic and hate the sin, but love the sinner 👍
@@goten_25 Did you not watch the video, where they pointed homosexuality wasn't in the bible until 1940's?
Why should you hate a "sin" as harmless as homosexuality when it's not yours to hate
Besides, those texts where written literally thousands of years ago, by regular men, and while many values have stayed the same, like condemnation of killing and stealing, many values have changed and will continue to change.
The bible was written for a society that existed 2000 years ago by people that lived and where influenced by that society 2000 years ago, not the one we have now. Corinthians is just Paul trying to establish the early Christian church, it's not words from God
@@thedudefromrobloxx Also your statement was very false, It wasn't just written by some dude, It was written by The Apostle Paul who was actually a man who met Jesus Christ..
@@goten_25 Yes, it was. But Paul was still just a guy. Important for the establishment of the church but still just a man, also a man who's writing have been copied, translated and edited for over a thousand years
As a Christian myself i believe lgbtq people should be accepted and talked to about that, that being said lgbtq would not be excepted into heaven as they are leviticus 20:13 as an example.
Since your video about Vtubers a couple years ago, the community grew a lot. It would be cool if you could Interview Filian is making an annual vtubers awards show
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Scrolling through this comment section is rough and just want anyone out there reading all this *bs* to know: who you are isn’t wrong ♥️♥️ and it doesn’t matter what anyone else says
If there were pastors in my life like this when I was being forced to go to church maybe I would still believe in God, and maybe it wouldn't have been forced.
I don't like that he said that God is everchanging. That is not biblically true.
Bible been rewritten...so yes it is.
@@lizcoz4714 uh no it hasn’t been rewritten, it has been copied, but not rewritten. We have manuscripts to prove that it didn’t change over all these years.
@@codybenware9191the translations most people have read are inaccurate to the original texts.
@@mad_160realrealreal In its original language, the text is accurate and same with most translations. I don’t know where you are getting your facts.
This is beautiful thank you so much for this
Love this new series bringing real issues to light
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"real issues"?
I love how these three pastors speak. I've had horrible experiences of being at church, but hearing this makes my heart full ❤
This is a video that I didn't know I needed. As someone who grew up in religion and spent a lot of my teenage years in a church that advertised themselves as "open and accepting" but really wasn't, it's nice to see that there are some pastors who are able to accept their sexuality and be a good example for young Christians going through similar issues. Maybe if I had had an influence like that in my life, I wouldn't still hold such resentment toward the church as an institution.
lowkeyt thought this was a jubilee video at first lmaoo thisis cool
The homo and transphobic comments are really out of line here. Preach love, not hate.
cry about it. God is a Man. We call him Father.
You clearly are just spewing out something that I’m not even referring to. Grow up and be kind.
@@billywatson518 and between you or god. which one shows love not hate
@@billywatson518 how DO you know 'God' is a man? 👁👄👁
@@Ari_014 we call him Father dumb shit😭🤚🏼
As an agnostic/spiritually inclined but not exactly religious person, I believe that if there's a higher being that created the universe, it would not play to the rules of sex, gender, or even our understanding of consciousness. That being would be something we humans couldn't even begin to comprehend biologically. It would be completely different than the life we have to offer in the little bubble of earth's ecosystem.
I more less agree
YEAH, why the hell does this God care about who we love or what we decide to do with a body we didn’t get to choose? God doesn’t even have attraction or gender himself, and he used the first pronouns. This God’s a He/Him agender aroace
@@eveningjaguaryeah there's plenty of morally wrong things in the bible, like the fact that Jeffrey Dahmer can go to heaven through "faith" while someone who finds the bible hard to believe yet wouldn't hurt a fly gets burned in the eternal lake of fire. Christians throw it off like it's some holy justice that we as humans could never comprehend and I just feel like that's straight bullshit.
@@nateweeks4094 you’re such a cool person oh my god /gen
I’m lesbian and don’t believe in a God but my girlfriend is Christen and the priest’s daughter. I will never forget one night shortly after she realized she’s lesbian and we started dating, we were looking at the stars and chatting and she voiced fear of going to hell. My response was “I don’t know if there’s a god out there but if there is, there’s no way he would make anyone feel attracted to the same gender then send them to hell for it” being gay isn’t a choice and why the fvck would a god make someone gay then punish them for it? (Also just sent this video to my gf)
Reminder we live in a sinful world and the devil exists.... so it is not God's doing...
@@vocal02 man who gives a shit we're here for a good time not a long time
@@beepobeepo where will that take you 💀
How many interesting topics does Anthony so far?
I love, love, love this new series. So many interesting topics. thank you Anthony.
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Im sure i dont have to say this but i can understand the people not wanting to be friends with a pastor. A lot of LGBTQ people have trauma relating to religion and even though they could be wonderful people it can be near impossible to let down your guard around them. Actually I have a great-uncle who is a pastor and I know hes a good guy but I always have this gnawing feeling in the back of my head that he judges me so i understand it.
This healed me quite a bit, I’m a queer nonbinary person in church and I greatly appreciate all 3 of them for being there, showing their faces and talking about the difficult stuff that I didn’t have answers for
You are love by both God and true Christians, I pray the lust you experience fades away. Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, 1 Timothy 1:9-10, Corinthians 6:9-10
@@TimMcCarthy_ Christians like you are the reason I’m not one anymore, good job people like you lost an angel beginning almost 5 years ago.
I'm very curious!! ❤
Helpppp just turn off the comments😭
No, let them stay. Let people see how hateful these people are when they have anonymity.
It's not hateful to speak the truth of God's word, which any self proclaiming Christian supposes to follow
@@jothePianoMaster13 so if god said "all jews should burn in hell and die", it wouldnt be hateful? just cuz god said so?
The way the female pastor spoke about transgender people had all choked up 🥹
Hey Anthony, I see a lot of videos like this and what Jubilee puts out. There's always a religious perspective. I'd be interested in what a group of scientists have to say about these issues.
That would be weird... they're just talking about their experiences
Scientists already know homosexuality is normal
@@jennifervan75which is why they should get a show like this, wouldn’t be better in getting a educated view point. On many other points aswell.
This show isn't for debate. It's specifically for people of a certain demographic to combat assumptions about their own demographic. Scientists would have nothing to offer here.
This video makes me feel much better as a gay and aromantic Christian.
If you choose to identify with being a homosexual, instead of pushing back and running from the homosexual desires and lusts, then you are not a Christian.
You are not a Christian with a commitment in living in contrary to the ways of God. What you are is delusional. Without true repentance, no person will ever know Christ, and you very obviously have not repented.
Anthony slaying as always.
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As an episcopal church member we treat everyone the same, no matter their skin color, gender, sex, sexual orientation, or romantic orientation. All people of all kinds can be anything in the church, get married to anyone in the church, and MUST be treated equally no matter what. The church I attend is all female run and two of thoes women are gay, one a parent. This is the way every religion should be.
I thought I'd never say this and I'm not religious but I'll say it to this, Amen.
Matthew 6:24 "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other."
I love this. I think it’s a very important verse for gay pastors to understand. Most Christian’s know and understand that God created men and women. For them to marry each other and have a relationship, not men and men or women and women, Yk? I’m happy that these people are happy and I hope they don’t leave Christianity, but it’s very true that they will have to choose either God, or lgbt.
I love that pressalike did this episode. It’s good to hear from queer pastors and their interpretations. Commonly the Bible is interpreted personally not literally and I like how they explained that
I love this series and the topics that it tackles. I am a person that believes that there is a place for christianity and queerness to coexist, but this episode still made me think through a new perspective
Christianity has hurt me so much, the religious trauma is INSANE, but videos like this are really beautiful and allow bits of me to heal. I’ll never go back to Christianity ever again, I was raised in that hellhole, BUT I can use the knowledge I was raised on to help heal myself from the pain.
@@MetalCrowd-je2bvmost likely atheism or agnosticism
The bibles straight up wrong and misogynistic but it does set SOME good guidelines for life, gotta give it props
@@MetalCrowd-je2bvI also respect every religion but I do believe that some have aspects that are morally wrong and outdated.
Mhm I’m agnostic. Still a generally spiritual person, but definitely not religious.
@@eveningjaguar same I feel like there might be something out there but I don't claim to know because lowkey we don't know shit, when I see the beauty of nature tho I find it hard to believe it was all by chance
Nicole needs more props! Why is Anthony getting so much credit?
Nicole gets mentioned every episode don't worry
Nicole is so sweet and creative❤
He's the name and face?
There is literally a segment in the beginning of the video explicitly showing her on camera and crediting her as producer.
@@DangerSquiggles I’m talking about in the comments
There are denominations who are progressive enough that their churches are "open and affirming". Maybe 1 in 10 pastors I have met in my denomination are gay.
Progressive Christian and Gay Christian are both oxymorons.
@@ethandollarhide7943They are not. Making comments like these spreads just as much hate as the Christians saying all queer people are going to Hell. You are condemning queer and progressive people who believe something different from you, just like they are, and showing them just as much vitriol. If you truly care about queer people, and want to support them, do not speak as if those different from you are beneath you, I implore you.
@@thesaltycat9493 I do care about Queer People. That's why I oppose them joining a movement that hates them.
@@ethandollarhide7943 If you loved queer people, you wouldn't speak over those of us that do believe in both. We exist just as much as you do, and deserve to exist just as much as you do. I am not imaginary simply because you don't believe I can exist. I want to believe that you care about queer voices, but it's hard when I see you speaking over us throughout this comment section. /gen
@@thesaltycat9493Why would I support your voice when you have joined the side of your enemies? You're the equivalent of a Tree that supports Deforestation.
Thank you Nicole, Anthony and rest of the team for yet another amazing episode! It is so important that topics like this are talked about. Love and acceptance is everything most of us want. ❤
This is absolutely wicked. They are lost, deceived, and leading people astray.
Real. 1 Corinthians 6:18
😢they don’t understand that they WILL have to give an account for all these people they lead astray.
HE JUST EXPOSED HIS SIN... he says well god thought this way 3000 years ago who says he cant change his mind lmao WHAT?! WHAT HES DOING IS MAKING THE BIBLE FIT INTO HIS LIFE NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. they have not once qouted a verse they dont know shit. They will be judged accordingly
I really like this perspective!! An actual reason that makes me curious about reading the bible
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that's actually not QUITE true.
At one point he was giving his typical "everyone was made the way God wanted them" lecture, when someone asked "what about Born Eunuchs?" (the popular euphemism for gay people at the time) and he responded, "they are the way they are."
So his official stance is "that's just how they do"
Can you tell me where that’s from in the Bible? I’d like to search it up 🙏
As an insecure queer christian, Thank You :)
As a thank you :) thank you :)
Jesus can change our desires and heart 🤍
Me, an aroace spectrum catholic:
People: so you're celibate?
Me: 😐 yeah sure
I’m not a Christian (or anything close, I’m a borderline an atheistic satanist lol) but I have a fascination with Christianity and the bible and bible stories, and hearing each one of their personal interpretations of scripture and how they interpret god
The idea that god can change and evolve and can change their mind and perspective is something I’ve never heard before! God is always framed as this all knowing being that is a static constant, so hearing about a view of god that’s more fluid and ever-changing and ever-evolving is amazing!
Also the break down of Jesus’ story as it relates to transness is genuinely something I’ve never heard before (even with the amount of half-joking “Jesus is trans!” Posts I’ve seen from other atheists) and tbh- if that’s not a trans allegory than I don’t know what is lol
This is genuinely so fascinating to me! I love it!
It’s interesting to see different point of views, Im agnostic but i used to be Mormon, and a lot of this is way different from what i was taught.
Actually Jesus said in the beginning you are created man and woman… Jesus never spoke about pornography, pedophilia, having sex with a dog is that an excuse too ?
Literally everything you just mentioned can be a Heterosexual Act. 🤡
Can you spend a day with AnthonyPadilla? i would like see that.
I feel so awful for the people they're leading. They will be judged accordingly as the scriptures say about pastors
This is such a cool thing to start the series off on, especially as an LGBTQ christian. Thanks Anthony and co. for all you guys do!
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Repent of your homosexual sin, my brother
@@johnharvelhines9803 lmao nah, I sin sometimes but being gay ain't one of them
@@genderfluidbossI'm sorry my friend but God did not create us to have homosexual relations. The bodies of a man and a woman are made for each other.
@@johnharvelhines9803God created me this way and loves me regardless, so no. There is nothing to repent in regards to that. I will repent for every other sin that I have, as I am a human being, just as I'm sure you are too. But Jesus died on the cross for me, and the God I believe in doesn't say homosexuality is a sin. The God we believe in does not have to match the God you believe in. Mine is Omnibenevolent, aka All Loving. Just like the Bible says. Spread God's word through peace, not hate or anger. Do not be the Pharisees casting stones upon the woman.
Personally Im not religious but its still a very intresting topic to learn about. I know its a very divisive topic to those that are religious and personally I think thats ridiculous. Let people be who they want and love who they love. It really in the end shouldn't be that hard.
They can. Just don't join something that hates you like these idiotic gays thinking they can be Christians.
There should be an assumption counter that counts the amount of times the word is said
I've been non-religious for a little over a decade, but Britt's point about the trans journey reflecting that of Jesus really got to me. I have several queer friends who continue with or are rediscovering their spirituality and finding how their fit into their beliefs, and seeing clergyfolk encourage that is so reassuring.
The pastor in this video made a very, VERY faulty analogy there when comparing trans people to Jesus’s and Paul’s life.
1. Jesus did not transform. He is the same person, before he died and when he rose again. Like he was dead and now he’s alive, but thats the only transition. Absolutely nothing to do with changing gender
2. Paul transformed from killing Christians to being a Christian. There was a change in his life, but a spiritual change. Again does not connect to gender at all.
I’m sure it can be reassuring, but her reasoning is faulty. It’s like me reassuring you that everyone in Gaza rn will live. It’s encouraging, but it’s false.
Religion is like the 2nd most confusing thing
What’s the first?
@@rainyp337 math
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Nah this comment chain got me rolling💀😭
Some of the comments are not it lol😂
I have gone through so many different phases with my faith and most recently I’ve fallen so far because I just have this all or nothing mindset that I can’t be a Christian and believe in astrology or be an lgbtqia+ ally or any number of things that don’t usually correlate to Christianity. This was really comforting to know that I’m not the only one that believes in God and wants a relationship with Him but doesn’t want to give up other beliefs because it was frowned upon ❤
Watch Dogs music in the intro? Fuck yeah, man.
I feel like everyone here is too negative, overall if you’re teaching the word of god you’re a good religious person, being gay is a sin because god wants you to have a kid but I find it hard to believe the same god who said “love thy neighbor” would strike down a gay person for being gay that’s just blasphemers tryna Corrupt the word of god
What are you on 😅
@@user-hx5zk5ho4l What are YOU on?
if god wants us all to have kids, infertility wouldnt be a thing
Jesus actually mentions homosexuality at least twice:
1) He refers to gay men as "born eunuchs, born from their mother's womb that way" as one of the three types of men not made for marrying women.
2) When he meets the Roman Centurion trying to heal his 'pais', a Greek term meaning the younger male in a gay relationship, and said of him, "Never have I seen faith greater than this."
Neither time did Christ condemn it and in fact he wanted to go have dinner over at the Centurion's house.
When making a point about the Bible, if you don’t site the scripture you are referring to, your point is .. pointless.
Can you tell me what part of the Bible that’s from? I wanna look it up please and thank you kind person 🙏
The born eunuchs refers to men born sterile (and women born infertile). Made eunuchs by others means having been castrated, often as a torture method, and eunuchs by choice means those who have chosen abstinence to follow God (monks & nuns)
@@2tally There were 3 types of eunuchs "not made for marrying women" Christ mentioned. Are you suggesting men who are "born sterile" aren't made for marring women?
Do you mind giving me like 5 examples of these men who were "not made for marrying women, born from their mother's womb that way" who aren't either of the "made by others" or "made themselves that way" (ie, the other 2 types).
I'll wait for your response. Should be super simple since they're so common Christ casually mentions them. So giving me 5 from the entire world's history should be a breeze.
@@user-fw1xz4rx5m You can easily Google the topics
Doesn't god supposedly love us all? We're all sinners, but god still does. And i don't think loving someone is a sin. Like, doesn't Bible talk about love a lot? Why would it be banned to have same-sex relationships, i don't understand.
i think its more of a difference between love and sexual preferences you can love someone and not be sexually attracted to them im pretty sure there is a whole ass gender thats all about that
Because religion is a hoax. Im an atheist and i absolutely despise this thinking. Either follow the religion properly or dont follow it all. Dont butcher it and try to create your own interpretation of it.
He has his rules that we must follow so that’s why he allows natural men to women but not men to men/women to women. Just because we are sinners, doesn’t mean we are allowed to continue sinning, we must repent
Because same sex relationships defy the biological relationship between a man and woman that is capable of repopulation and continuing human life. Same sex relationships are built upon pride and lust, 2 deadly sins, and don’t serve a greater purpose apart from wanting a man’s head between your legs and vice versa. Let’s say straight people successfully raise their kids to be straight and gay people successfully raise their kids to be gay, gay people would go extinct because they can’t reproduce
To the person who wrote the original comment, you are correct. We've actually found out through historical records and such that the current translation in the Bible is probably incorrect, and should instead be "man shall not sleep with boy", not "man shall not sleep with man". So, it was *most likely* originally condemning pedophilia.
However, not everyone will believe that, which as sad as it makes me, is fine because I know everyone interacts with religion differently. I just tell those people we don't believe in the same God and that it's okay, because *my* God is Omnibenevolent, and that's what I choose to believe in. It sounds like you believe in the same thing (if you do believe), and in that case, yes, he does love us all, and he did create us to be just as we are.
love this series🩷
I’m sorry but I heard the lords name used in vain throughout this video. How is that ok?
When?