WALDORF QUANTUM: THE DEEPEST SYNTH EVER
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Had to come back and listen to this again. The last 10 minutes of this video have, for me at least, completely reframed and reconceptualized what this synth is, and what it can do. I think I, like a lot of people, had this thing in the "Ambient/Lush Pad/Cinematic" category, and the performance here completely exploded that impression. It was like finding out that what I thought was Anne Hathaway is really Charlize Theron (If that makes sense.) Aside from the Quantum itself, the performance was raw, authentic, and felt a bit dangerous - in the best possible way. We never see synth CZcamsrs commit this way, and it was cathartic to watch someone tear into a synth and release its power in such a torrent of guided chaos. It was like an escape from a burning building.
I fully agree about the performance, and what I think most people here are reacting to is his talent more than the inherent quality of the sound of the Quantum.
He's not Tim Shoebridge hahahaha
@@favoriteblueshirt The things I love about Shoebridge are his wild, zany antics, crazy outfits, and completely fearless, over-the-top, outrageous content. Did you see the one where he's reviewing a Blofeld while dressed as a giant lamprey, and he lights himself on fire and begins shrieking in Aramaic? Or wait... maybe that was someone else... Hold on, let me check.... Yep. Different guy.
It shall from now on be known as -Not the Anne Hathaway synth. Dear lord 😂😂
Anne/Charlize comparison makes a lot of sense, I love it :-)
This video hits harder than a coffee enema.
😂😅
HELL YES !!! That's the demo what I wanted to hear from the Quantum. Now I´m convinced. Thanks for your great work!
Fucking insane performance! Never heard anyone go into this territory with it. Noise Punk!
OK Joey. I got my Quantum today. And it sounds killllleeerrrr. I got some hard edge Drum and Bass grooves out of it . And I've only had it for about 12 hours. I got it because of this video. Keep rocking .
No lush pads, no granular scapes...just pure noises of death...love it!!!
A softsynth and I'm off.
Well worth £4000. Oh wait...
"what up Tim Hecker" 😂 killer sounds as always Joey
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Hi buddy, loved your videos. Especially the one on the EMAX SE. I have a question, hope you will answer me. I have 2 SEM’s modules Oberheim + un OBX-8. ( i ‘ am a Prince’s fanatic for very long time…) so I like what I hear, I really thinking to buy an EMAX SE, or a quantum mk-1. What do you think? ( can I get the EMAX kind of sounds with the quantum? ( beside Prince… love the new wave, dark , minimal techno. Please need your advice, suggestions.😎🎵💕🙏
Yet another awesome demo. Unpretentious and straight to the point as usual.
Man…. You must have the closest match to my studio out of everyone I have seen on the web. Most people give me crap about not having a Prophet 5 or a Model D or whatever. I like the weirdos. Quantum, XTK, Fizmo, Polyevolver, Hydra Deluxe, CS30, One, Sonic VI, Prophet X, Etc. You’re basically reviewing the synths from my studio but in a very different way. Love it.
YES u finally did it. I have the iridium desktop, never been in love with a synth this hard 😂 amazing isn’t it, glad u love it as much as I do. Long live Waldorf
*I think Waldorf is criminally underrated* as opposed to some other companies that have way more exposure despite putting out the same limited designs for decades. Waldorf has great engineers and Axel Hartmann's contribution is fantastic, too. That being said it's up to every single user to make these tools work. Or not work. The zeitgeist is to get another toy, and another toy and another toy. Scrolling through the presets, sell these three toys and get four new ones 🙂 Instead of commit yourself to a great synth like this and then figure out at leats 99% of its features.
Great video!
This is some great noise. Killer Sub Wah with the pitch whistle. Might need this sampled.
Amazing video G - killer info and next level music ✊
Ben Frost: How do you like my new album?
Blush Response: Hold my Quantum…
The build-up until the ''noise'' overload crescendo commences at 15:02, and you saying ''YEAH!'' is absolutely 100% awesome!!
Congratulations - whether or not it was your aim to do so, you just created the single most compelling argument that this is a highly relevant and important synth that anyone has produced in the past 2-3 years. Highly evocative. Once you got the sequence going, this was completely ablaze.
Wicked man! That's synth sound massive and also a programmer paradise. For now I'll stick to me Blofeld desktop as it is hard to justify the price for the Quantum :) Iridium looks also amazing but even cheaper, still a bit difficult to reach. Great demo and sounds, keep it up man!
same and will stick to my Virus TI2, OB X8 AND RYTM.
Yes. It is a monster. And the very people that would love it the most have been the most critical- Hopefully until now
DAMMMMM,,,THIS SYNTH IS SUICIDAL!!!....Awesome!!🔊🎼🎶🎵
Wow, you really know this awesome Machine! Thx for this video, it‘s a present to the word and Waldorf. I
Dystopian sci-fi film score synth right there!🤘
WOW! Now THAT’S how you show what a synth can do.. Totally balls out nuts!!
Ok ok ok, we will buy, geez, leave us alone man! :) great video again, thanks
and now the MK2 goes even harder with poly after touch, better screen and a shit ton of sample memory!
you see it on the SCREEN, it looks PRETTY.
What a beast!
I have this and the 3rd Wave on my list for my next synth. I might just get them both. Did you do a 3rd Wave comparison?
Up to this point, I thought this was a dry/sterile synth. I love your "rock the tits off it" attitude. Keep up the great work!
Despite the plethora of skill and talent to demonstrate this synth's capabilities, I still think it sounds remarkably sterile.
Nice... Its like finding a car review from someone who isnt afraid to destroy tires :) too many tame asf quantum rundowns out there. Loved the jam.... wild sounds and a unique, raw approach, great stuff.
i've no words ... Gorgeous machine ! 🌈🔥
Looks like what a new Virus should have been. On wish list!
Well, awesome demo, I was on the brink to order the Iridium but now it's clear; it has to be that beast, 61 keys and 59Gb sampling storage offers much better live performance options. Thanks for this vid.
Tbf the quantum already has unlimited memory since you can load straight from usb anyway
This was the video that affirmed my decision to pull the trigger and buy this beast today. Thank you!
How do you like it?
I LOVE it. It is honestly the easiest synth to use IMO. The color coding makes it really simple to identify what mode I’m in for the voices and makes jumping around the synth areas super quick.
While it is VERY deep and capable, it doesn’t require you dive deep to get it to do insane sounds. I mean it has 3 voices with 5 sounds engines per each voice. They can all be played together so the power to finesse the sound just like you want it is really nice.
The filters are really good. I barely use any plugin enhancements on the track it’s on in Ableton.
The arpeggiator is very capable of creating some great complexity to a sound. I also use it to arpeggiate my Prophet-5. I agree with him about having the compressor right there next to the volume. Again, just a very thoughtfully laid out synth.
I just updated the firmware. That turned it from 8 voices of polyphony to 16!
This synth has made me NOT want any other synths as I see all other synths redundant. I kept the Prophet for the warm analog sound.
My “gear acquisition syndrome” is now mainly on eurorack modules 😂
Wow, thanks for such a review! I am a slow learner so actually very happy to hear that you find it easy to use!
I am considering buying an Iridium (can’t afford Quantum) but I understand they are not THAT different.
Hope you enjoy yours!
I bought mine used. It’s the MkI, not the MkII, so you should be able to step into one for a reasonable price. Again, once you have it, I don’t really see a need for any other synths unless you just like owning gear.
If you do go with the Iridium, you’ll be happy as well.
Maybe I should also give the drawbacks. The only thing that I’m not a fan of is when saving a new patch, I have to remember the last number in the patches or it will save over another patch. There might be something I’m missing, so it could be user error.
Have fun with whatever you get!
Got mine a day before they announced mk2 but whatever this synth is a beast, audio rate modulation on filters would be awesome in a future firmware
I think that’s been ruled out
Besides that Dope Sub Wah section this sounds like "Digital Brain Damage". Dude. I've listened to some "Skinny Puppy" back in the day but Got Damn Son you almost blew my near field monitors to smithereens!
Joey baby, you cause me to buy more synths hahaha. I've been eyeing this for a long time, and am ready to get one and maybe sell off a few , but then again, why sell a synth? Do you think it beats the Iridium? are they exactly the same except the filter? I'm ready to get it but I'm still unsure..
ya, as stated below, no sweet shit on this vid. your the only person to show it's dark evil gabber hard style death industrial techno. the rest is flute and guitar arpeggios , which is cool, but you rock it bro.
One up for showing another, more interesting, side of this synth! It's not all big reverb pads or arps.
Organized mayhem..I think they made this for totally different people...Preset rompler, GAS junkies, don't even waste your time trying to understand the Quantum...
Wow, what on earth was this? :-O Fantastic.
"I rest my keys." :-)
incredible
Never thought I was missing a €5000 AM radio in my life 😝 Bloody beautiful
Man, all the sound possibilities in this thing.
😮❤ hard going.. love it and love my Quantum, too ;)
increddible creations!!!! 😂🎉
Fire
Dude, you are the prodigal brother of Jexus
Awesome video! Thanks for the demonstration. Also, save that microwave! :)
8 Mins wow great sound
Just curious, you mention that with this machine and one other you could make any sound you want. What synths come to mind as the other synth here?
probably de analog rytm mk2
Perkons? Drums are sick! Whatever they are the combo is pure energy
This demo is fucking glorious!! I use my Quantum in a very similar fashion and its great to see this monster of a synth being showcased for all the insane abrasive edgy sounds it can create. Near every demo of this online is a snooze fest with generic pads and other uninspiring patches. You've done an awesome job of showing just how fun and creative this machine can be.
Great review. This is a holy grail synth for me. How would you compare this to the Iridium Keyboard? They seem to be largely the same, save for the larger keyboard and the analog filters the Quantum has. Given that the former is over $1,000 cheaper, it seems like the better deal? Might be missing something though.
As a quantum owner, I'd say the Iridium is a better deal (wasn't available when I bought it). There are digital filters that emulate close enough the analog ones. I don't like the 49 keys keyboard though (I need 61). I'd go for the desktop format + a master keyboard.
@@Alan-wm5pe same, I’m holding out for iridium mk2
@Aaron Foltz - do you have any examples of this? I'm still not convinced about the Quantum or Iridium, but it's the only real modern keyboard sampler-synth with polyAT, so I'm trying to keep an open mind about it. But like when I compare it's raw sound to the OpSix, Hydrasynth or Prophets, it just sounds uninspiring.
Your aslibs had me hyped along with an engine lmao
Who else reminded the iconic sound from movie Contact with Jodie Foster? Love that machine.
thats wicked
I got a good question for you.I work with my quantum with my mpc x,and this is the most difficult but the most astonishing keyboard ive ever owned lol.
But i want to sequence track by track with it instead of having do record my audio each track if you get what im saying.
Like my Virus Ti,i can play and record pads on track 1,play and record keys on track 2 etc and then when im done i can dump the or record the audio.
But how i work with my quantum i play and record and i have to dump the audio and then wash repeat.
Does the quantum have like a sequencer track by track function or no???
These sounds are wild. I wish your voice didn't duck the sounds though
I've got the Iridium. I didn't know they could get so rude. What were you using for the arp? When I mess with the FM, all I get are bells and tin pans.
Would this be a terrible buy as a first synth to learn on?
Yes.
Had no interest in this one for years, then we had to go watch the Blush Response demo didn't we
Love your stuff, and love that you demoed a different side of this than most other CZcamsrs, but I'm still just not that impressed with it's sound. What you showed today could be created with a few cheap pedals and a looper. Or an Adrenalinn pedal alone. Meanwhile Lustrum's more standard "awesome patches" demo also just wasn't that impressive. Yeah, it's the king of "features, man!", but in the end the sound always just ends up lackluster. The only reason I'm still evaluating it is I've been looking for a modern version of the EPS16+ with onboard sample mangling, resampling and poly AT. I'm still waiting for someone to demo the sampling from a more creative/industrial slant. Can't exactly drop 3 months of rent just to find out.
sick
careful yr gonna break it 🦾
Have the Iridium keys .... and it was the first synth since the Virus Ti2 that kinda overwhelmed me ... still rock the virus .. but Iridium is the ultimate digital monster hw synth..
I'm just here to comment on how awesome the NGE t-shirt is...
7:45 onward... That shit is badass! A wicked growl to the synth! I hope this synth lets you save stuff. 13:00 Also bad to the bone! 15:51 Ooooooo! 18:08 To the max!
can the iridium create hard gritty neuro basslines? probably ritee
Happy birthday for last week David Lynch
welp.... time to put my ass in some corner.... dady needs a new synth.... HOLLY FUCKING SHIT THE RANGE
🔥
It begs to be abused!
👍🎹👍
You 16Ked the fuq out my speakers at 11:45...Luv it! Righteous demo comrade, this thing goes nutty (!LOUD PASSIONATE MOAN!) white milky substance smacks against the window
I have a few doubts about the quantum. Although I like it in general, but it is way too expensive. All the functions and the giant screen just suggest that it is more like a plugin synth within a controller case. I also think that it would have been okay to have a single lfo, osc, env section with selector buttons for 1-2-3. All these unnecessary hardware features paired with a software kind of feel for far too much money. In my opinion this should be like a 1500-1800 EUR synth but not 4500 EUR. I think the hydrasynth is in many ways close but costs significantly less.
All modern digital synths are just software in a standalone box.
@@dbefore7165 You are kinda right. This is especially true for the korg synths. They run a raspberry pi inside and the synth you can get as a plugin. Disappointing. I like to believe that the hydra and the arturia synths don't run on a generic computing device but on a somewhat specialized controller.
@@repasiv it makes these things affordable by using off the shelf parts and CPU’s, they more that fast enough for synth engines
@@dbefore7165 right, but this one costs 4500...
You get what you pay for
дай одноклеточному великолепный инструмент и он вам покажет вот это
What is that large ring on your finger for?
To keep his hand from sliding all the way in?
🙃💙!
What physical modeling does it do?
It has modal synthesis resonators and you can even use samples to excite them
7:54 came here for that.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the Mk 2 model now out.
Overpriced compared to what you can get a used MK1 for. They are selling for roughly $2k compared to $6k for the MKII - $4k more for poly AT, more storage (you can use external storage on the MKI), and a screen that’s attached slightly better. No other differences in the MKII
@@googlingthevoid depending on what you mainly want from it a used Iridium desktop could also be a good option; especially if you already have a keybed you like on something else.
@@klstay true! But then you miss out on the extra controls and analog filters
RING MOD 💀
dirty arms dirty music, yes it cans... :)
If you could only have one...this or virus ti?
The quantum is many synths in one
@@dbefore7165 but the virus is a legend
I have both and I’m happy I don’t have to choose., brilliant synths!
Quantum. But I love the virus regardless
@@blush_response I just got the virus after watching your and some other peoples videos on it haha. Have had the quantum for three years so I’m in the honeymoon phase with the Access.
This is the type of guy that will drop a Prodigy Esque album 😅😅
Hnmnggh
My words too…
Sorry, respect to Quantum / Iridium, but deepest synth ever is the Kronos!
What makes the Kronos deeper? Interesting!
In some ways but I still reckon modern kurzweils have the edge in depth
I failed at keeping my first reply short, and wrote a mini manual / sales blurb instead, lol. Here is the real short version:
1) chameleon workhorse thx to masterful integration of its assets
2) Sampler is unrivaled in multisample depth. Has Wavesequencing.
Streaming from SSD. Massive 3rd party sample libraries.
3) Top of the line FM engine, seriously. Waveshaping in hardware.
Modular. Samples. Audio input.
4) Top of the line physical modeling engine (non-brass and non-piano).
Sondius-XG, Standford-patent genius level... same depth as Yamaha VL synths, but more accessible.
5) Thirteen synthesis engine types, mix and match, interbreed them.
6) Modulations out the wazoo.
64 step sequencers, multi-stage envelopes with adjustable curves per stage, yada yada
7) KARMA: PhD level intelligent arpeggiator/ arranger / MIDI processor.
8) Great FX (except reverbs and guitar sims) x 16, freely routable.
9) Drum track per program.
10) Combi mode (16 "tracks" of programs, set list mode, and 32 track linear sequencer.
11) Various other perks : USB host, 4 aux outs, great MIDI controller.
@@blush_response And here is the extended reply I spent way too much time on lol:
Thx for asking, I'll try to keep this short. Keep in mind the UI is not as slick as modern ones, but it's the engine under the hood that counts, right?
1) Kronos (K) is a chameleon workhorse due to the integration of all that follows. Super internal routing, engines going into other engines, insane stacking thx to combi mode, KARMA doing meta MIDI duties, etc.
2) Sampler/wavesequencer.
Let's say most samplers work on the X axis: time. Fixing start times, zerocrossings, loop points. Beat-slicing, pitch-stretching, granular. K does some of that, but goes where few samplers can go: deep in the Y axis: velocity: Multi-samples (MS) 8 deep on the velocity axis, 92 zones wide, round robin. Wavesequencing (WSq) 64 steps deep. WSq can do old school (Waldorf) wavetable synthesis, using single cycle waves instead of samples. K's sampler uses MS you made, or those from decades of Korg rompler libraries, from your WSq, from recorded beats, slices, etc. K can sample/resample from these sources: audio, USB, main outs, 4xaux outs, record bus. The linear sequencer has 16 audio track, does inline sampling (record vocals), can assign samples to keys in time (trigger samples), and again, resample (bounce MIDI to audio). Oh yeah, and it can stream your GB sample libraries from the internal SSD... unique in hardware, iirc.
3) FM/waveshaping engine (MOD7):
MOD7 can import DX banks/patches. But it goes way beyond that, beyond even SY77 turf: it has a 4-deep rompler engine, so you can FM samples. MOD7 is modular, so forget straightjacket algorithms -- you can do OSC into filter1 into mixer with audio input into filter 2. The alter ego of MOD7 is its Waveshaping engine (WSh). This is phase distortion, beyond Casio style. 101 WSh tables with drive and offset, and again, modular. So yes, per voice tube saturation, but also dozens of curated WSh tables for malleable wavetable like morphing. Can go from pristine to standard to Blush Response type grungified.
4) Physical Modeling synth (STR-1):
Yeah, this can do the best emulations of fretless bass, sitars, gamelan bowls. But this comb filter is the grand daddy of PM synths, beyond Q/Iridium modal or Anyma Phi. Ghostly choirs and French horns, blue whales, alien soundscapes, pristine harmonic cascades. Use any color noise, samples/Wsq, a dozen pluck types. And it has audio in, so run whatever thru that meta comb filter with its dual pickups, non-linearity, string or key tracking, touch harmonics, damping, dispersion...
5) Other synthesis engines:
The rest are decent to meh, compared to what's out there nowadays: MS-20 and PolySix emulations, organ and electric and acoustic piano engines. Its VA engine is still pretty flexible, on par with a Virus, and sounds fairly solid. Often overlooked is its Prophet VS vector synthesis skills. Each program has 2 engines, so it's the mix and match of engines that gives K an edge.
6) Modulations out the wazoo:
Most synth parameters can pull up a modulation source, and there are over 60 sources (velocity, note number, poly aftertouch, vector joystick, env 5, AMS mixer 3, etc). These include:
2 x 64 step sequencer per program.
21 LFO waveforms, modulatable.
At least 5 MSEGs (Start level, ADBSSR)
Ribbon, vector JS, USB, XY pitch stick
7) KARMA:
This takes a PhD to master. As a preset only player, it's unrivaled, laughing in the face of Roland's i-arp or Yamaha's tale of a 1000 arps. It's like an arranger on steroids. Custom gated arps, auto-bass lines from chord recognition, high note only bends, channel remapping, improvised drum fills, MIDI LFOs and envelopes. It uses 8 sliders, 8 buttons, and any MIDI controller (aftertouch, ribbon, foot pedal, tempo) to mash up what you want, and save each mini monster to one of 8 scenes.
8) Great FX processor:
Korg's reverbs are rather meh compared to what's out there now (altho some have re-routed pitch and delays into reverb to make pseudo shimmers and black holes). But it's got loads of unique gems in its arsenal -- vocoder, 5 vowel 3-way formant filter, classic ensemble, grain shifter, 2-voice resonator, doppler, bass amp+cab sims, vintage guitar pedals...
16 FX at once, 12 as inserts, 2 as master sends (chorus, reverb, eq), and 2 as total mix FX (compressor, mastering limiter, preamp tube emulator).
9) Dedicated drum track:
Each program has its own drum track with selectable (or roll your own) drum kit and a single pattern (700 preset, 1000 user). Changing patterns live is clunky, so it's not a drum machine. Unless you use the sequencer or master KARMA.
10) Combi mode, set list, linear sequencer:
Take all those various engines and go 16 way multi-timbral. Define keyboard and velocity zones. KARMA x 4. 128 x 128 Color coded tiles with text for live Set List ease. 32 track linear sequencer (MIDI and audio), audio and MIDI phrases mappable to keys/pads for live work.
11) Other perks as a beast:
2 x audio inputs, 4 x aux outs
USB host. USB soundcard. SPDIF in/out.
Excellent MIDI controller
3rd party sample libraries, preset packs
Holds its resale value.
Bragging rights as top tier workstation, still ;)
@@blush_response Shortest response yet:
Kronos can do 90% of what Quantum can.
Quantum can do 10% of what Kronos can.
Of course, that's spitballing from watching videos, reading forums, and cruising the manual. YMMV
TLDW: makes terrible noises that you can get from 20 year old Reaktor ensembles.
How much?? $4,799.99 >> NO WAY DUDE I can get better sounds than that with Tone2's Icarus v.2.5 for $169 and it sounds better...
how are you not broke
He's got that phat album sales money... lol
@@hostnik777 good to see an industrial(?) artist doing well regardless, wish i had access to these sick toys!
Sounds terrible
I did buy the Iridium. That is the ONLY synth that didn't last for more than 4 hours in my studio on my 40-years of synth career. So I did send it back to the seller. Why? A plethora of possibilities, but is sounds like a 149$ plugin. Sorry. That is the reality. NEXT.
Have you tried the M @blushresponse? Curious to hear your take on it as it seems it would be up your alley. Recently got on in a trade and like it quite a bit, though struggle with programming it sometimes a bit.
I found it very limited, I prefer the XT and quantum
@Blush Response Ya that seems fair. I do like the raw sound and form factor, but thinking of swapping it for something with easier mod routing/more options, and a bit of a faster interface. Do you have any possible recommendations considering all that?
@@dairylandbogurt iridium, hydrasynth, virus TI