Giving back the 100 year old BARN FIND Hit Miss Engine its SPARK!!! (Literally!)
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- čas přidán 28. 10. 2022
- Hey all!
This a a follow up to the "restoration" of the 100 year old Barn find engine ( • 100 year old BARN FIND... ) In this video I dig the original magneto off the shelf and try to get it working again! Check the video out to see if my hard work pays off and if this old technology still works!
Thank you - Věda a technologie
Great patina on that one! I think I could sit and watch it run for hours. As another commenter said, it's mesmerizing.
Thank you! It definitely sounds great!
What a glorious old workhorse that thing is. Full kudos for resurrecting the machine.
Your explanation of the process for recharging the magnets was gold -- thank you!
I find the old engines snd other old machines far more fascinating than the far more advanced machines of today. The brilliance of those old generation engineers and machinist is way more impressive to me than what is built today….back then they had a lot less tools to work with but they could create complex machines that could run forever with basic maintenance. The guys designing stuff today have computer programs to assist in every aspect of the design and building process and even then the end products can be way more problematic and hard to troubleshoot and repair. I say this as a career mechanic and a tinkerer of old stuff in my restoration business. Im hoping one day to buy an engine like this someday. Great job.
You hit the nail on the head!
great to to see the engine running on her own spark as it were!
Thank you!
I can watch them run all day! Great video!
You and me both!
Awesome job man. If it wasn’t for guys like you rescuing these old gems and restoring them it’d all be scrapped by now. Thank you for being you and doing what you do. I live on the coast of Maine and there’s a guy that powers his skiff with an old make and break. It’s such a cool sound.
Thank you!
And wath a nice machine
love it.....i was told that you only need 2 tools to work on those......a short handle hammer and a crescent wrench......
When i was a child i remember seeing these old engines still working in some shops and oil fields...l am in my 80's i also just sub'ed to your amazing video's....Thanks......
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Thank you! I'd loved to have been able to see this stuff working on their original installations!
do love the sound of a Hit and Miss
I think that the biggest problem after charging the magnets was with your jumper cable, unless you have built it yourself or it is of some quality brand, they usually leave a lot to be desired, it would not be strange that half of the voltage that the magneto produced was lost due to the resistance of the cable.
That very well may have been the case!
At 19:00, you might want to remove the armature before charging the magnets. The armature shunts the field away from the magnets and prevents the maximum magnet charge. Best it to remove the magnets entirely. Enjoyed the video. Cheers.
Good advice!
I'm amazed how quiet it runs
Thank you for the info. Will be very helpful with a upcoming project. Glad I found your vids.
Missed them growing up in Nebraska, be watching, thanks.
Thank you!
My G-pa left an old double-coil “magnetizer”.
20 yrs after it’s gone, I now know what it was. Don’t I wish I had saved it!
God Bless You for sharing your knowledge.
That broken magneto idler gear is probably what parked this engine with so little wear... Just like old vehicles, sometimes they sit for decades because of really minor breakdowns:) What a sweet old engine!
I would have to agree with you, that may be the very reason this old girl was put to pasture!
“We need to be gentle with this” then proceeds to hit it with a hammer! My kind of work ethic!
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Thanks for the living history lesson (It runs!). Keep the old iron running.
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thats is unbelivable to see old engine going again thats so cool
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Thanks again for educating this Old City Boy. Never was exposed to any of these old cast iron wonders. We do enjoy the annual tractor show down in Vista though. The rope making machine still fascinates me.
New sub, looking forward, was 60 years old before I saw my first hit and miss, just a few years ago, DONT KNOW HOW l
Part 1 was so much fun... Part 2 ties it all together! Really cool video!
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As a blind person I love the sound of these intermittent firing hopper called engines I have a 1906 Gilson hopper called open crankcase intermittent fire an engine it weighs about 70 KG so I think much smaller than yours I must drag it out it’s been in safe storage for about 10 years and see if she still sounds as good as this one
Cheers
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I have a couple of those magnetos, now I know what they were for. Thanks 😁.
I don't need them just couldn't toss them out. I live near where they do the Stumptown Steam Threshers show in Ohio.
I'm not far from you! I'd be interested in them!
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Great video thank you
Thank you!
Mate really enjoyed watching both videos.
They are mesmerizing, a great piece of history saved.
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Very Nice! Glad you got the mag repaired and going again!
Thank you
Good ol hit n miss
Very cool glade to see you able to fix the mag .
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This engine sounds so nice! Very well done btw.
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Nice smooth runner sounds great ! Good job 🤙
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Love the restoes - do any of the machines actually get out to work on anything?
WELL YOU DID IT AGAIN I ENJOY YOUR VIDEOS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IVAN FROM ILLINOIS.
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Another great video
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When you go to charge your magnets it's pretty easy take a string tie it to the magnet hold it above it will automatically line itself up to where it needs to be North to South. Just to let you know love your videos
Good stuff
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Very nice. Well done.
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One other thing you want to get a small brass hammer and tap on the coils very lightly as you're Remagnitizing. You wanna tap on it on the magnet that is very lightly going back-and-forth over the magnet
I luv your videos
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How enjoyable was that ? Wonderful thanks!
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My father acquired a simplex motor to get cousins boat in working order. I worked on it with dad including making an engine mount. We spent 2 weekends down on the lower murray river. Lovely brass propellor. Lovely motor with a huge fly wheel and magneto which had its own box to store in while boat not in use. Stuart Palmer Adelaide Sth Australia
These old engine will last indefinitely I'm pretty sure!
Gentle use of the technique of "impact correction". Well done.
Love it!
love this content sir
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Yep you were right, a terrible explanation of how a magneto works. 😂 Keep up the good work 👍
NEODYMIUM MAGNETS . 😁It might be more reliable with a spark condenser.
I've had one of those mags for 50 years not knowing what's for, till now.
Great videos, thanks for doing these. So, what is the water box on the top of the engine for? Cooling of some sort?
Thank you! And yes, the hopper just serves as water storage and cooling for the engine as it runs. As water gets hot and evaporates, water has to be added from time to time.
Thanks for another great video! Will it start on the mag now?
Thank you! And yes it will start on the mag now.
Just been watching your video excellent 👌. I have a fairbanks morse z 6 hp in very good condition no ware anywhere the only problem is it has no govenors at all is there anywhere in the US that you might no of that might supply these items its a 1920 model. Many thanks Gerry
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23:37 That's because things were built better back then. We hadn't yet become the disposable use-once-then-discard society we are today.
That's definitely accurate!
@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities I may be forgetting something from the first video, but I'm pretty sure you drug this thing out of its grave and got it running as well today as it did 100 years ago with nothing but a little tinkering, sweat equity, and a thorough lube job. GLHF doin that on modern equivalents....
I really like this video, I have a question how did they connect to other side of the coil / rotor/ armature to ground, do they send then current through the shaft and the through the bearing? If this is true you could put a ball bearing ball at the end of the shaft and hold it in place with high tinseled copper strip an tie that to ground and that will give you a more constant current and not eat up your bronze bearing.
The magneto is grounded through the case. I've not seen issue with the bronze bearing getting ate up, usually just wore out from lack of oil.
Yesterday I watched a hundred year old well in Ohio. This well looked like it would give off, (by watching the flare gas amount), plenty to run this engine for either the injection, or as a well pump.
So basically the only major maintenance is you have to recharge the magnet every hundred years.
Honestly, if the Coil windings are good and the shafts do not have a lot of slop, yes, that's pretty much it lol
I have always wanted to paint old hit n miss engines and steam engines.
I have restored paint on many tractors and and other equipment
And painted allot of antique out board motors but never had the chance to do hit n miss. I thought about buying one to paint and use as yard art if nothing else. I restored classic cars for 30 years but always had a thing for old equipment.
One day i found one of this magneto not knowing what it was ...hold the wire and spin the gear ..... first and last try ...
Do the magnets matter if they're installed backwards???
Its alive!! IT'S ALIVE!! Well it's Halloween, so I had to do my best Dr. Frankenstein, LOL.......
Thank you!
So if you had a load on a hit and miss it will naturally want to fire more because the governor will tend to trip the spark if I get the concept right? Great series!
That is correct, and thank you!
Did you recheck the calibration on your turnbuckle hammer to see if it was set for keeper pins? 🤣
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How long do you think it would run on a point of fuel. any chance you could test it?
I believe I could do that! Sound like you gave me an idea for a new video!
@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities i think there something to having a mass flywheel, i do have a 1928 Lister d engine running a 350 watt generator, never fully loaded it for any length of time, it keep my shed warm, its water cooled so i use a old car radiator in the main shed plumbed from its its own little shed outside main shed. i run it on heating oil and waste oil, after it gets hot of course, a hit and miss on the other hand is another matter. i think we need to revisit old engines like the one you just got running, thinks to be learned learnt.
Wow he didn’t even need his shade tree?
You say you don't recommend tapping the shaft but as a fellow mechanic it is the only way to shift it, there's hitting something & there's tapping just enough, that's the skill learn't over time, if you don't shift it, its a useless magneto, if you do its on its way to be a magneto again, if if breaks you repair it or replace it.
Bigger the hammer the more gentle you become,,,,
How do you set the timing on a braker Monitor 1 1/4 HP.
Here is a very good article from @gasenginemagazine that explains the timing procedure excellently!
www.gasenginemagazine.com/restoration/baker-monitor-zm0z15jjzhur/
If it's fixed don't broke it
HEY Dude - please don't work around rotating flywheels with an open/undone shirt - asking for trouble. My friend was killed this way working on a Ruston Hornsby engine.
Good piece of advice! it's easy to not thing of something like that and have terrible results.
no sound?
Magnetos produce High Voltage and low amperage, plus you had your multimeter set to AC not DC
There are both low voltage (low tension) and high voltage (high tension) magnetos. This particular one is a low tension rotary magneto. It should only be producing around 3 to 6v AC. To measure this correctly I really should be using a analog meter. The Fluke meter I'm using takes the average and the varying RPM of the mag makes it difficult for the meter to read it.
@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Ok point taken we used a Magneto and Spark plug to light the oxy acetylene torch in the workshop where I did my Apprenticeship if you touched the plug with the nozzle you certainly found out, that was a high tension Mag
Why aren't you honest with the viewers and tell them outright that when something is stuck to go ahead and hit it was a hammer which you clearly did? Wouldn't it be better to say something like, "ideally one wouldn't want to smack the crap out of this but sometimes it just has to be done."
I feel that I am being honest. I am confident in my ability to not break what I'm working on but at the same time I'm also willing to take the risk of breaking it to free up something quicker with a more risky process. It's not the preferred method with something like this, as these magnetos have pot metal housing and break very easily. I don't want to give the illusion that they are indescribable and you can whale away at them with a hammer.
I wonder why you didnt clean the mag gear teeth
They'll clean them selves when running. And.... I forgot to....
Can you talk with a southern Vietnamese lady accent?, it would really help me out a lot. Thank you.